Rep. Filner and Rep. Wilson on U.S. Policy Toward Iraq

[fr6313]

So the facts represent a "hatred of America?" If you can''t disprove the facts then you say those presenting them "hate America"...It's amazing how stupid Joe Wilson is. In fact if the stupid ass had read the Health Care Bill he would have seen in bold print that Illegal Immigrants are not entitled to any benefits. Maybe, just maybe it is Wilson who hates Obama because of his race...

[kcdad2806]

"Therefore, all of these things are current, and "never" refers to this time span."

WOW. Never doesn't mean "never" it means "not recently."

Well in that case... I have "NEVER" stolen, lied, committed adultery, taken the Lord's name in vain, not honored my parents, coveted, not kept the Sabbath, or beat my wife.

[gcafiero]

It is a fact that Western governments provided Saddam with chemical weapons throughout the 1980s. Joe Wilson is a disgrace.

[alreltney]

He likes calling people liars and I like to call hypocritical GOP fucks like Wilson what they are....cowards, pussies and stupid cunts. His supporters are the same.

[adamzanzie]

Wow. Wilson has a history of accusing people of "lying". Maybe he should consider that he's simply getting his facts WRONG?

[msebele]

Wilson does not know how to debate or discuss in a proper manner. I hope he reviews this video and all other videos that display his childish and irresponsible actions.

[psychonautx26s]

Even if he reviewed all of his public debates, his worldview wouldn't allow him to recognize his own faults. He has bought into the lie so much that the possibility of him growing into a mature and intelligent speaker and making logical, well-founded points based on well-researched facts is abysmally small, if even remotely existent at all.

[theGuyYouHate01]

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[Switchfoot771]

After 1:25 it's basically two people talking at the same time, making it unable to understand.

[jhille85]

Joe Wilson is a fucking moron.

[azz666]

The man knew he was hearing the truth so he ran out of arguments, sounding like this obnoxious kid who only knows how to disagree.

Come on USA, you people have to start seeing through the BS.

[sckryde]

so Rumsfeld never shook Saddam's hand?

Russians would never sell those kinds of weapons to American/ British /Israel puppet governments. which Iraq was.

and Saddam was supported openly by the U.S during their War with Iran in the 80's.

Remember Oliver North" "An American Hero"

well his Drug running OP in Honduras was bringing billions of kilos onto the streets of America so that profits could fund proxies in Iran to attack Iraq.. LOL

funny how that works.

[grifonecoronato]

The US does not promote or use chemical weapons...

Has Wilson ever heard of Agent Orange, for fuck sake?!!!

[TAMARLANE]

The US does not promote the use of chemical weapons. True

The US does not use chemical weapons, true.

Agent Orange, dioxin, was not used as a weapon in Vietnam. It was used as a defoliant. The unintended consequences were adverse effects on people.

Get educated.

[sckryde]

thats a chemical weapon dude..

people died and they were used..

[Switchfoot771]

Obviously you are still stuck in the 1970s.

Or maybe you don't understand present tense.

Pick one.

[grifonecoronato]

At 2:40, Wilson says "the United States has never promoted [...] the use of biological or chemical weapons anywhere in the world."

That kind of an absolute declarative statement is false, so don't accuse me of not knowing "the present tense", because WIlson's statement applies to all times and places.

Second, Agent Orange was used in Vietnam and it caused about 400 000 deaths, alongside millions of horrible birth defects.

The US used that chemical weapon - Wilson doesn't know his history.

[Switchfoot771]

What I think is that, first, this entire conversation is about the conflicts occurring in the Middle East. Therefore, all of these things are current, and "never" refers to this time span.

Second, I think that it is completely ridiculous to accuse him of not knowing what happened in Vietnam because this entire conversation was a fast-paced argument. It just isn't truly logical to make an argument stating political correctness in this situation.

[jensen1901]

"That's made up" Wilson said. HA! Try again Joe. Read a book Joe. Stop lying Joe.  Typical Republican technique. Go on the attack and question your opponent's patriotism when you are loosing an argument and/or have no idea what you are talking about.

[goodall77]

They all lie vote them all out.

[jhille85]

Republican reading a book about real history?

Hah! Surely you jest!

Reagan was a God my friend - how dare you suggest that tens of thousands of people died in Guatemala, Nicaragua, Salvador, and Iraq thanks to the help of his administration! It wasn't in my Hannity book, ergo it is not true.

[ka87tube]

Its such a hateful thing to say the truth....how dare he. Totally misleading the American people to the truth.

And we dont promote the use of chemical and biological weapons? Just owning them is promoting them.

[robinycus]

Joe Wilson is an ass clown

[adog262]

The U.S. of A actually sold materials to Iraq? Okay, first off, why would we have been seeling ANYTHING to Saddam in the first place? Sure we didn't give weapons to him directly, but we gave him an oppurtunity to make them. That's just wrong! X(

[HeisenbergSleptHere]

We gave him?

Or he took?

We liked Iraq's opposition to Iran. We helped Iraq foil Iran.

Iran is still our enemy.

Iraq has been temporarily neutralized.

[adog262]

Well, at least we made money from it. :P

Iraq is neutralized for the moment, but I still am concerned over Iran. I've heard of protests and violence going on.

[GreatSatan1]

Check out Filner's face at the beginning of this video. He looks like he is trying to pass a large turd, unsuccessfully.

[nathanosu]

Ok, as a history teacher I can tell you that the US did supply Iraq with weapons during the Iraq-Iran war in the 1980's. (Under Regan, Bush senior) Were they WMDs? Depends on the many definitions of the phrase. The weapons supplied were RPGs, bombs, small arms, AND weapons of the biological sort. The use of biological weapons by both Iraq and Iran maimed an entire generation of soldiers.

So, did the US supply weapons to Iraq? Yes. Is WIlson incorrect in his statement? Yes.

[GreatSatan1]

The US never supplied weapons of the biological sort to Iraq. I don't care what you teach. You are dead wrong.

[AsheIsTheRaven]

The ignorant never care about what is taught, that's why they can't question effectively

[GreatSatan1]

Filner lies. And he knows he lies. Why he lies you would have to ask him.

Nice to see Mr. Wilson standing up for America and calling a liar a liar. Filner says we gave bio weapons to Iraq. He lies.

[ethomas97]

You know we found hundreds of chemical weapons in Iraq that were made in America, right?

[EvanJuggle]

You R Lying!

[mrbhave]

We absolutely gave Saddam biological WMDs. Where do you think he got those bombs he dropped on the Kurds? You may not remember, but Don Rumsfeld was over in Iraq just long enough to bring some presents for Saddam:

watch?v=bUPb-3zkh0c

Joe WIlson is a dumbshit with a loud mouth. Being loud does not make one right.

[GreatSatan1]

The US never supplied Saddam with WMDs. None were found there that were made in American. Get off the crack pipe, wake up, and smell the coffee, dude.

I dunno. Either you are too ignorant to waste my time with.

Or, you are too dishonest to waste my time with.

[EvanJuggle]

You R Lying!

[mrbhave]

Iraq Used Many Suppliers for Nuke Program

AP Online | December 18, 2002| DAFNA LINZER, Associated Press Writer |

"Dozens of suppliers, most in Europe, the United States and Japan, provided the components and know-how Saddam Hussein needed to build an atomic bomb, according to Iraq's 1996 accounting of its nuclear program. "

Oh, you shouldn't waste your time on a grammar brush-up, particularly in the area of dangling participles.

[GreatSatan1]

Dangling participles are one of my most favorite things. Do they bother you? Good ! !

Suppliers of hardware or software that could be misused in the construction of WMDs is NOT supplying Iraq or anyone else with biological or chemical weapons.

[mrbhave]

Of course, without hardware and software, it's not possible to make the kind of WMD's that Saddam was pursuing. But I guess there's no arguing with someone so knowledgeable.

[TAMARLANE]

Arguing with my friend and mentor Satan?

He asked me to intervene on his behalf, as a sort of expert. What are your qualifications by the way? I will visit your profile page to see if anything is written there.

[mrbhave]

You're an expert on...BS? I see you've got a new screen name (all caps). Did youtube suspend your account for being such a hate monger?

[TAMARLANE]

Hate monger? Ah, now I get it. You are gay and hate being gay. You live in Canada. Your parents have disappointed you by not approving of your homosexuality. Now I can at least understand your angst.

[mrbhave]

Don't attempt a profession in psychology. You suck at psychoanalysis.

Remember this comment of yours back in May?

"Oh, and fuck you you Godforsaken waste of human skin.

Katsu !"

[TAMARLANE]

I DO remember saying that to some rice bag, some clothes hanger. Was that you?

I don't remember what motivated me to say that, maybe you could refresh my memory? Did you ever find out what Katsu (Kwatz in Chinese) actually means?

I must have found you to be particularly ignorant and nettlesome to make such a remark as that. I am capable of it, but rarely do it. I am ex Navy of course.

[mrbhave]

You might also remember telling me that you worked WITH sailors, not that you were one. So you're ex-honest, I see.

"I have spent many years working with ELTs from the boats. None of them sound like you do. I don't know what happened to you there, even if you were the shit screen you were highly valued by the crew. To think as you do implies some kind of brain damage."

[TAMARLANE]

Just to set the record straight dude. Not that I actually give a rat's ass what you think. I was a Sonarman on a destroyer during the Korean war. There was no such thing as an ELT then. I worked with many ELTs also much later in my life. Working nuclear chemistry in nuclear power plants. Never a shit screen here. I was different from most of them true enough since I never valued, had much use for shit screens.

[kcdad2806]

Because sailors NEVER work with other sailors... YOU LIE! and YOU HATE AMERICA!

[mrbhave]

Congressman Joe Wilson? If not, you must be some other moronic neo-con, eh?

[TAMARLANE]

Psychology and psychoanalysis are both bogus pseudo sciences. Is that what you are into? Is that what fucked you up beyond all recognition?

[HeisenbergSleptHere]

You find dangling participles to be befuddling?

Would there be a dangling participle shrouding the meaning of a comment if that comment had not traveled through the ether?

[mrbhave]

I find ignorance of this magnitude befuddling. But I don't find stupidity coming from satan, tamarlane, or you befuddling at all. You're making inferences that aren't there.

[GreatSatan1]

Filner lies. The reason he gives for not going in to Iraq is false. OUr objective was simply to liberate Kuwait. We were not prepared to go into Iraq at that time.

[SONICIS18]

Joe is a dumb fuck

hahahaha

[CircusofPython]

Joe Wilson, you lie!

[FutureLaugh]

its classic once you mention a good point- you instantly say they arent American. Next person who says another good point they are going to call them a homosexual

[rintrah81]

lol. clueless bumfart

[TheAnthonyFive]

"I think you need to read your military history"

LOL, it's so funny, what rock were the people born under who voted this guy into the senate, or better yet, what rock were they smoking!@

[alanmtz54]

haha! Wilson is a LIAR...

Vote Ron Paul!

[christogarcia]

This Joe Wilson guy is quite a tool. He is a part of the machine that has DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY. He will get his due.

[CSHOOLIGAN]

having people like wilson in the government is scary for me. he called the president a lier and Filner anti American. I just want to know how many other people are like him in the government. If the Republican party does not change, and become a useful part of the government they will cause big problems for the country. For as long as I remeber what happened in politics the republicans have not done anything significat or good for the future of the country. I hope these people dont run as Dems.

[soundmoneyfan]

haha, speaking truth and not pretending like America is always in the right means you hate America?? What a boob, we need to face the things we have done in the past, like arming the taliban and causing Iran to hate us. If we could get off the flag waving we've never done anything wrong, maybe wecan change the direction of this country. Good job Rep. Filner!!

[judoyodan]

The only people left in the GOP are idiots and fools.

[holycrapyousuck]

"The United States has never promoted... the use of biological or chemical weapons anywhere in the world."

How can you hope to have an intellignet discussion with people like this that live in their own reality? People who believe that just saying something makes it so. People that rely on emotion to prove a point and will ignore any facts, no matter how obvious, to the contrary.

[curien1000]

Uneducated AND anger management issues? Who voted for this mouth-breather?

[DallasCowboys94Ware]

So while I don't agree with what Joe Wilson did during the Obama speech, websites are now digging up this clip and calling it an "angry outburst". This wasn't an outburst. He just seemed really passionate about making his point... The media is reaching right now.

[curien1000]

But YET AGAIN he was denying the truth, loudly interupting the speaker, and not offering ANY facts - simply name-calling and denying over and over so that Filner can't continue telling THE TRUTH.

This is much like what he did to try to spin the (already confirmed at the time) facts about Strom Thurmond's illegitimate daughter (who, by the way was also the product of statutory rape - of his family's maid!)

Its pretty despicable the way this guy's emotions lead him to loudly deny the truth

[oldkoloa]

People of South Carolina. Read your history books before electing MORONS like this. My God! How could you do this to our nation? YOU need to be ashamed.

[TheCreativeNothing]

Poor Joe who apparently needs a history lesson. Rumsfeld visits to Baghdad in December 83' and March 84' guaranteed expanded US financial assistance to allow Hussein to purchase the equipment and expertise to develop bio and chemical weapons. The CIA/DIA provided intel to Hussein which was later used to apply chem/bio weapons on Iranian soldiers during the Iran-Iraq War. This policy lasted all the way up to the invasion of Kuwait in 1990 under Bush (41) and then Secretary of Defense Cheney.

[jensen1901]

oh. my. god. Wilson has no idea of history. What's next, is he going to suggest the footage of Rumsfeld shaking Saddam's hand in the 1980s when Iraq was our ally was somehow faked? America has sold all kinds of chemical weapons and other weapons (everything from machine guns to F-16s) to many countries all over the world for decades. It's called international business, look into it. Oil countries have money, we have weapons. Has Wilson ever been outside of SC? I am stunned by this clip.

[gryzor123]

Does Wilson think hes in England where they act in a barbaric manner and scream and shout like the spoiled little brats they are? We progressed and thank god we have them to look to for how not to act and Mr. Wilson you were doing your best British impression last night. Please move to England so we have one less hater of freedom and supporter of terrorism in the country you seem to want to destroy so badly. You are the current poster boy for all that is bad in this country.

[th3tracer]

filner talking about national security in detail is owning himself.

[th3tracer]

yeah joe wilsonnnnnnnnnnnnn this guy is cool.

[biguy617]

I wonder if this cool guy thinks the photo of Rumsfeld shaking hands with siddam is made up

[dawwang]

Its why you need your kids to stay in school so they wont end up being like him.

[LLORT3]

I read that Joe Wilson and the GOP condemned Strom Thurmond's black relatives. He and the GOP are racists and apparently not very well-read on their history of U.S.-Iraq relations. LOL

[drmondman1]

agent orange in vietnam war...

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view my site...

you choose...

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lie...

p.s 2+2 is not 3

[jackass255]

republicans and their incestuous love for america. Makes me sick

[CYLONEJACK]

"He bought it from the market"

I guess the US is the market lol.

Retardicans=we know iraq had the weapons because we had the receipt.

[txbabygurl88]

anger problem!

[Boomer1949]

Man this one guy is going to have a nervous break down over this news. I honestly think he didn't know this and was shocked to hear it for the first time! That is just how naive some of these people are who hold office.

[XoshoppinhoneyoX]

pussy fight

[HistorynotHisStory]

In the Eighties, the Iraq was the United States ally.

During the Iran vs Iraq War, we sided with Iraq.

[studio7manga]

Dem rep needs to shout down that asshole and tell him that he's a lying scumbag, and that he's being anti-American for being a lying scumbag. I'm tired of these pussy Dems.

[okefixico]

Dems are faggoty homos. It's their nature to be pussies.

[studio7manga]

That explains why repubs suck so much corporate dick.

[qhc23]

You take Bush's d--- in your ass, don't ya?

[okefixico]

Bush is a liberal, you freaken dumbass. Now remove yourself from big government's tit and make something of your otherwise meaningless life.

[spotbelly]

He makes all us crackers look stoopid

[studio7manga]

GOP troll lying again.

[cephal0p0d]

looool

'hatred of america' -  the last resort of the incompetent.

[blackjet2news]

This rep.Wilson is so DUMB!!!!!why didn't he know this,what a jackass. .......Please everyone get this book: THE FAMILY..by JEFF SHARLET.....&YOU DON'T KNOW ME(A CITIZEN'S GUIDE TO) REPUBLICAN FAMILY VALUES..by WIN MCCORMACK ...P.52 WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SamariaTV]

Everybody knows the US gave Saddam the weapons. Its widely known.

Hatred of America is telling the truth? His truthful info is not misleading.

[pseudolover]

Wilson is an Idiot! It's not made up, there are pictures of Donald Rumsfeld. This is a pure example of why Conservatives SHOULD NOT be in charge of our country.  I think Mr. Wilson from the rebel state should read a little bit more. Censure the Right Wing extremist!