from where source you say the turk seen anatolia befor11 ADcentry(The Turk migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turk peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe & the Midle East between the 6th&11th centuries AD(Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns.Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China &inner mongolia
The term Türk or Türküt, corresponding to the Chinese name tu-jue, was first used as an endonym in the Orkhon inscriptions of the Göktürks (English: Celestial Turks) of Central Asia. The first reference to "Turks" (Tujue) appears in Chinese sources of the 6th century. The earliest evidence of Turkic languages as a separate group comes from the Orkhon inscriptions of the early 8th century.
The precise date of the initial expansion from the early homeland remains unknown.
Anatoli (Ανατολή) in Greek means East and Anatolia (Ανατολία), Eastland. anyway DNA is not the point. all humans are brothers eitherwise. we share 97-98% of our genes with apes. I agree with the guy that claims that the hate is created and promoted by politicians and the rulling class. about civilizations? the use to get mixed and not fight each other. you have my respectful greetings from fired Athens
Yes, the sultans had women of different origin, Greek, Serbian, Ukrainian, because it was a custom for emperors to combine marriage and politics, also a habit in the rest of the European royal families, but has less to do with the normal people.
And there a lots of Greeks in Greece with Turkish origin. One of them was your old premier Karamanlis
Ancient Turks are Mongols, Turks, now mostly assimilated western Iranians, Greeks! Ancient Turks Mongols! Archaeology and ancient sculpture, Chinese history books! DNA have also proved this point!
Ottoman sultans are all bastards. They don't represent the Turks.Turks/Turkics were from the beginning in 5000BC ( Xiongnu) a hybrid of the caucasiod and mongoloid race ( Turanoid).
hey uploader ur very funny Byzantine Empire and Roman Empire didint know how to fight with turkish soldier? why did u call them empire then. stop lying about history Turks migrated anatolia more than few times 1st was before christ but european people hide this because if they accept this they cant say to us go back to central asia and after christ (1071) history records shows turks came from central asia and after that 1200-1300 ( ancient turks) migrated to all over in europe
Many turks have Greek blood and they don't know it. The turkish propaganda makes them believe that Greeks are the bad guys. The fact is that the Greeks were living in Anatolia centuries before the turks. Christianity also have the oldest roots in today's turkey because of the Greeks again. You are sitting in a stolen land but it's ok we have Jesus by our side...Keep Constantinople it's all yours but you 'll never have the glory of the Hellines.
THE STORY IS SIMPLE, THE rulling class impose their language, traditions, religion etc over natives. So is the history of many people, such as hungarians for example.
As for the video, it needs historical corrections:
How easily Turks got hold of Minor Asia when:
...it took them from 1050 to 1450 (i.e....400 whole years!!!!) to estabish any permanent control no matter if the Eastern Roman Empire was totally destroyed by the 4th crusade in 1204 and no matter if the orthodox Greek despotates continued to fight civil wars... still they needed 250 more years.
For comparison, Alexander needed 10 years for all Asia up to India and western China...
@Ironman3446 Yes man. That is why modern Greeks remain always the definition of Mediterranean people. It is because they mixed with Turks (the ancient Mongol ones), Bulgarians and Albanians all of them apparently veeeerrrryyy Mediterranean in appearence (Mongols are hairy and Slavs and Albanians have dark eyes and hair isn't it)?
Turks on the other hand were a culture in expansion on the last 1000 years, one that absorbed by means of religion all shorts of people (including Greeks evidently). In the last 100 years Turks too felt a geographical contraction but in reality in terms of population they had an explosion as muslim populations (that were not genocided) concentrated in Turkey.
Hence, the modern consistency of Turkey is statistically less coherent and more varied than it was 150 years back.
Any nation has variation and by definition the nation is comprised by many tribes... otherwise it is not a nation but merely a tribe! Even within a tribe, various families have their variations.
Now Greeks used to be in expansion some 2300 years back but they are in deep contraction for the last 800 years, in particular the last 100 years (following the genocides in Minor Asia). As such their populations are smaller. Having lost their edges, the remaining ones are statistically more coherent.
@orkunful Thank you so much for the video, bro. But you forget to include the Albanian origin of many "Turks". Ataturk was Albanian, I think. Most of the Ottoman generals were Albanians, too.
Also, don't forget that many Kosovars moved to Turkey this century.
well i dont hate turks that hate greeks and cypriots.Imagine if tirkish greece and cyprus were together and didnt have any war :D.We could have the control of all the world.The only enemie of greece in past was turkey.Cyprus the same and the only enemie of turkey was cyprus and greece.If we were friends we could conquer all the world
This video shows that Original Turks fucked everyone around them, thus having very little originality compared to the cultures (Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, etc) that were aboriginal to what is considered modern day "Turkey".....IE Mixed Breed....
DNA does not determine your etthnic or cultural background or languae. But some people practise absolutely opposite.They try to determine your genetic background with culture or language.
The even try to change your real genetic origin with fiction stories.
This is what I've been trying to tell to people, Greeks and especially Turks, for a long long time, but finally a Turkish says the same. I'm truly amazed. Bravo Orkun!
I agree most Turks in Turkey are decendants of the people who were already residing in those places as the Turks were very merciful conquerers, they preserved religions and historical site even to this day, The greek archbishop of the orthodox church is still in the church in istanbul and even roman artifacts are still in tact and protected throughout Turkey, yet we Turks are chastised and seen to be murderous fiends! i wonder what religion greeks would be today if Turks had not protected them?
u and us r looking at matters from different angles and beliefs..
we say 1071 is not the first but the last arrival of Turks to anatolia.. also etrusks r a branch of Hun empire (if u investigate good enough u'll see how they r alike central asian originated turkish culture), who r the baseline of roman empire.
u can call this bullshit with ur narrow horse-sight, but keep in mind, those things u call "scientific evidence" also works both ways..
Origin of Etrucians are not clear. Some Turanists are speculating pseudo-science based claims without solid proofs.
There are different theories and but non of them are scientifically proven. Commercial exchanges and contacts are documented between the Etruscan harbours and Asia Minor. But during those dates 3rd century B.C. Central Asian Turks were not even in the region.
Reference: American Journal of Human Genetics, 2004.
Sorry but DNA-haplogroup and subtype studies are very clear and provides hard evidence on origin of population in Turkey. Studies clearly showes that 90% of population in Turkey were always there past several thousands years.
Neolitic farmers (Mesopotamians) are originated in Anatolian soils and fertile crescent and native to region. This is well documented in historical records. Typical DNA haplogroups for neolithic farmers in Turkey is as high as 40% in total.
Please note that when people say Turkish it means that it is a person coming from Republic or Turkey.
Turkic means a person that originated from Central Asia.
Those terms are not the same.
Regarding on language it is a completely different research topic. For example a lot of countries in Africa speak French or English. This does not make them French or British...Same applies to Turkey and central Asian Turkic tribes...
This is not suprising, its those MHP idiots that keep saying all turks are from central asia that is false and lies. Turks are a mix of meddeteranian and balkan peoples. SO NO WERE not central asia MHP gp fuck youself.
Tell me this, if when we arrived in anatolia there were 12 million people there in 1071, how come there were the same amount of people 850 years later? Does that even make sense to you?
To make it more clear for you...people in Turkey are linguistically Turkic but racially and genetically not. Only 10% of population may be Central Asiain Turkic but they are also genetically mixed with local population.
have a look at the current population of Central Asian Turkic republics. If you put all of them together it hardly makes 65 million (russian origins are not excluded). How come that population of Turkey is more than Central Asian Turkic republics? Does this make sense to you? Did they all jumped to planes 1000 years ago and moved all together to Turkey? Of course not...think logical...
Recent DNA-haplogroup and subclade studies clearly show that only 10% of population in Turkey is originated from Central Asia. This is a scientific fact.
As a brain washed Turanist it may be a nightmare for you...but this is a fact.
@GurmanciKIZ turkish is not a race mate, type it in google and it will tel u, its someone who shares the culture and language that makes them turkish, and as for u being a kurdish anatolian, now this is the part where its bullshit- kurds can live in anatolia, but ur ancestors arent anatolian, u can find out by searching kurdish genes, u guys r from the very eastern mountains of turkey and also around iran, geneticaly u guys r related to iranians not anatolians so stop pretending lol
2 turkey consists of people of turkic, georgian, slavic, greco-roman, armenian, circassian, kurd, spanish jew,arabic and african ancestry and many more
3 so what?
4 turks have always been open to other cultures and over the centuries have influenced and been influenced
5 this is not a negative thing but a postive thing, not a weakness but a greatness
I fink it is true but it has got some big wrong...ottoman political approach was pomping turk populationrecent came from asia whtever they captured ...even most turks suppose ppl living in black sea are laz ,georgianor bla bla..... here are alot for hazarian(jewis turks but they r muslim now),gagavusian turks, and I can cout ,lot of turk but now we ve mixture cos we are big civilation witout racism
The Anatolian population we call Turks (and we are proud of it), are the indigenous people of this land for thousands of years.They are the children of Etruscans,Hittites and Troja (Trojans were Etruscan). A unique DNA marker proves that early Etruscans were from Asia Minor, making Turks cuisines to Italians.Modern Turks have also an overwhelming genetical influence from balkan nations and caucasia.DNA analysis shows that there is almost no central asian hablogroup of c3 exists in modern Turks.
2 turkey consists of people of turkic, georgian, slavic, greco-roman, armenian, circassian, kurd, spanish jew,arabic and african ancestry and many more
3 so what?
4 turks have always been open to other cultures and over the centuries have influenced and been influenced
5 this is not a negative thing but a postive thing, not a weakness but a greatness
We are Turkishized Native Anatolians and we admit this. We don't deny it. As a Turkish National Socialist, I Renounce Ideaology Like Sharia Law And Turanism.
If saying a Turkish Guy Looks Like a Guy From Kazakhistan, That Is Like Saying a Spainard looks like Evo Morales.
Exactly, everyone needs to stop barking about Turanism and the only people who have the right to talk about that crap are Turkmens, Uzbeks, Uyghurs, Kazakhs and so forth. If all Turkish people look like Mongols, then all Spainards look like Mestizo (Native American) Hispanics. Or if you say that all Turkish people look like Mongols, then all Lebanese people look like people from Sudan. This is the logic. We are genetically 100% NATIVE ANATOLIAN. Time to debunk the myth of Turan.
Turanism is real evil with a mask of nationalism. I really would like to find out who are those people behind that ideology. What is their real aim? Why do the want to alienate us to our real roots which is in Anatolia? According to them acceptance of Central Asia origin is patriotism. Does that make sense to anyone? We must fight against evil Turanist ideology.
Brother, you are right man. This must be a creation of the Jewish MHP party. Type in "Yahudi Alparslan Turkes" and you will know what I mean. Turanism is a Zionist invention. They also claim that they are Kemalist, when infact, this is going against true Kemalism. Because real Kemalist don't bellieve in Turan. We are genetically 100% Native Anatolians. If you say a Turkish person looks like a Central Asian, that is like saying a Spainard looks like Evo Morales or Hugo Chavez.
@orkunful Greeks are exceptional in the sense that they are still the tribe that characterises Medditerranean people. Have you ever though of it? People around the world will unconsciously call stomeone Mediterranean ONLY if he looks like Greek. Libanese looking like Greejs are instantly called Mediterranean. Libanese that look like Arabs are instantly called Middle Eastern. Same for you Turks.
Greeks have also variation but statistically are very coherent.
Turkey is very mixed. South Eastern and Eastern parts which are more Kurdish populated are more Middle Eastern looking than Mediterranean, however, please note that Genotoype and Phenotype are 2 different things.
I do not know where did you get your statistical calculation but the Medical Genetic Journals that publishing peer reviewed results clearly show that especially population of Turkey and Greeks are genetically like brothers.
@orkunful Greeks are not related to Turks. It is a small part of Turks who can be related to Greeks for the simple reason of the muslimification of christians of Minor Asia. Even that ""link""" is not any valid reason to call Turks brothers of Greeks, let alone that those modern Turks that have a substantial Greek lineage are really not much more than 10% in modern Turkey.
@orkunful I think it's more that 10-15%. In Ionia, I bet it's more like 75%. Don't forget that many Greek converts to Islam lived in the Greek peninsula. During the Greek Revolution and Balkan wars, guess what? They were expelled and settled in Anatolia. Thousands of Muslim Albanians did the same. After the demise of the Ottoman empire, they were all Turkified by the state.
The main message of this video is to show that current Anatolian population is grand children of ancient Anatolian's...Greeks are one of those...
Genetic evidences are clear that ancient Anatolian's are absorbed the Greek and other late coming cultures and languages...Turkish ethnic identity is the latest..before that it was Byzantium.
Ancient Anatolian`s did not disappear. Their grand children are still around with different identity.
@SSErgenekon1488 If you are REAL ANATOLIANS (*Hettites) Why is your name ERGENEKON? a DONKEY from the Treet knows that TURKs of Turkey=Anatolians/Hettites by DNA,looks...... While they claim to be MONGOLID (TURANI TURKS/Ozbek KAzak....). Once People Spoke Pheonecian in Lebanon, NOW they sPEAK Arabic but they are 100% Different from Real Arabs (Saudi Arabia), Egypt in the same way! Mexico=The same way! Aztecs gave up their language to Spanish.
U dont need DNA testing for this. It is common fact that most Turks are actualy Greek in blood as well as Arab (i think the arab element in the testing was suprisingly low). Many reasons why Greko/Romans became Ottoman Turks and not all of them was becouse of force. Presure with force become more serious during recent times less than 100years.
People forget that Byzantine Tax's were very high during end of empire days thus people wilingly prefered Turk Sultan goverment less tax.+many reasons
Bu videonun dogrulugu yada yanlisligini bilemem ama eger dogruysa bu cok ilginc bir noktayi gosteriyor. Turkluk etnik ya da genetik bir tanimlamadan ziyade kulturel veya sosyal bir tanimlamayi gosteriyor. Yeryuzunde acaba bizim gibi baska bir halk var midir ki hangi halk ile karisirsa karissin, kulturunu kimligini orijinini kaybetmemis, turklugunu surdurmustur.
So why call your selves Turks...just because the ethnic cleansers chose to? You are stupid sheep, programmed by the deep "Turkish" State..probably the only real Turks in Anatolia..
The Deep "Turk" State controls you. Most of your forebears have been converted to Islam out of fear, oppression, & the annual "pedomazevma" (collection of children) converting them to Islam so they can become your concubines, and janissaries slaying their own kin.
türkmenler, yörükler asya kökenlidir düşüncesi yanlış, ne ilgisi var, bu adamlar köylerden kız alıp veriyorlar ve yerleşik topluluklarla ilişki içindeler, , hatta sarı keçililer ki en büyük türkmen grubudur tr de, yunanlarda da sarikacanis olarak geçiyorlar ve yunanistanda yaşayanları var, kısaca, ya bunlar yörükleşmiş yunanlılar ya da yunanlaşmış yörükler, bu da yörüklerin kendilerini izole tuttukları düşüncesii her durumda yalanlıyor.
most of them dont hate greeks. and almost none of them hate italians. you can be sure about it. its just the policy. and the haters here on youtube are approximately 15 year old children.
Maybe Greeks and Turks are sharing some ancestors but it does not mean they are directly related. Greeks governed western Turkey for a while, but they did not replace population either, just like the Turkics they Helenized people for some time, but never completely controlled Anatolia, the conflicts between anatolians and greeks are much deeper than recent events, they have been fighting for thousands of years.
We shouldnt forget the fact that old Anatolian civilizations used to speak different languages and have different religious practices. There were lots of changes in both languages and religious practices of Anatolian people till the Roman Empire. Just because they were hellenized by the Eastern Roman Empire, why are we supposed to call these people Greek ? If so, since later they are Turkified by Ottoman Empire, we should call them Turks.
ncroc yes and no...of course not all anatolian people where of greek origin...but especially in the western coeast parts etc of turkey there are and where greeks...of course not 1 single nation is homogenious 100% we dont have states based on ethnies...language and culture that is what most people use as identity...but ethnic is something else :)
Moreover, there were lots of Turks (moslems) living in Balkans and Greek islands. After 1800s (6.5 million) millions of moslem people were killed in the Balkans and many immigrated to Anatolia. Moreover many Turks (christians) were sent to Greece or Iraq (Armenians). Considering the fact that the differences were mostly due to religious practices and the languages but not races, similarities among people living Anotlia, Balkans, Greece, Armenia is not a surprise.
I agree with the results but there are some problems with the conculusions. It is argued that people speaking Turkish is not related to ethnic Turks and thats ok. But same argument goes to the old Anatolian people. They were hellenized. So the fact that they were speaking Greek does not mean they were Greek. For example, people of Blacksea used to speak Greek (see Pontus) but they were of Laz/Georgian.origin.
I think you got the message wrong. This video is not questioning the ethnic identity. It is clear that majority of people in Turkey are ethnicallly Turkish.
People always mix-up the ethnic identity with genetic identity.
Aim of this video is the answer false information which is telling us in the schools that we are originated from central Asia.
It is not correct and never was. Genetic studies clearly show that less than 10-15% of Turkish population is genetically from Central Asia.
Actually, that statistic is still to large in my opinion. The most amount that Turkey has of Genetic Central Asian DNA is only 1% at the most. Even before Seljuks of Azerbaijan/Iran conquested Anatolia, they had very strikingly Caucasoid feautres even back then. This is why we need to embrace the fact that we are NATIVE ANATOLIANS genetically.
If you perform a genetic scan for a larger population the amount of Central Asian origin people may go below 5% but in most optimistic case not more than 10% in Turkey. In addition those are mixed with the local population as we all know.
I must say that even when before the Seljuks conquested Anatolia Via Azerbaijan/Iran, they even had Caucasoid features then. That is why when the Seljuk dynasty was established, 99% percent of Azerbaijanis then adapted Non-Mongol Physical traits, hence why 90-95%of us Turkish people have roundly shaped eyes, instead of Chinese looking slant eyes. People need to distingiush Turkish vs Turkic so they don't get confused.
what difference does this make and who cares? when i hear turkish spoken, I feel closer..blood means very little and so does looks but shared history, language, culture and sprituality is what i call "turk"..
If your real ancestors means nothing to you it is your problem..but majority of people want to know the truth.
Lets say you have a 3 years old child...one day you loose it without trace...after 30 years somehow you find Genetic evidence and locate your child lets say in Nigeria.
Your child say to you that you are not my father/or mother. I am Nigerian. What would you think?
Turkiyeye gelen Turklerde bu etilerden hangileri nasil tesir etmistir, Turkiye turklerinin DNA larinin orta asya dakilerden farkli olmasi bi asimilasyon sonucumudur(yani turkiye turkleri asimile olmus anadolulularmidir?) yoksa diger farktorler varmidir? (ortak yasam, iklim tabiat sartlarina uyum etc.) Yani kisacasi kit DNA bilgileri ile DNA yorumlamasi yapmayip, sadece bilgi olarak vermen daha dogru olurdu sanirsam.
Blood line is your real Genetic/biological ID. If you prefer to ignore the fact it is up to you. You can feel yourself like an Indian too...it is your choice and no difference...but NO THANKS...I do not need a fake ID that people are trying to make me believe.
dude we have our own language and country and religion thoses dnas r lies and we r not ASIAN how could u be proud about this its like u dont care and u like to be spanish and greek and roman we r not though!
I mean, what are you trying to prove with this video? Thats not a claim to be proud about that you have no true "turkish" dna. There is no such thing.
To all the turks on here: You are what you are, stop trying to change history and your past. The whole world is not stupid. Everyone knows about what you did to the Armenian/Greeks/Assyria/Kurds. It's only a matter of time before lady justice catches up with turkey. One day you will answer for your past...
The aim of this video is to show genetic origin of the people in Turkey...Crimes that committed against against Armenian, Assyrians and Kurds is not topic of this video.
This video is not approving or denying crimes that committed against innocent civilians by war criminals.
I'm not saying this video is. I respect the data you compiled and agree with you on it's authenticity, I just don't agree with the way your presenting it. I appreciate your against the Genocide, but I still disagree with the presentation.
I'm not sayin it makes all criminals. It doesn't take away from the fact. Unfortunately, the topic you are discussing can't reallly be seperated to political and educational. Nothing I said was political, it's all fact. The data you compiled for this video, inadverantly involves the genocide. I din't create turkeys past. I know theres a difference between ethnic and genetic. I already gave an example of that by the way turkey would steal females from conquered lands and inpregnate them.
I partly agree with your comment...Your comment is related to mt-DNA which is transmitted from mother (maternal line) side. The data we have in this video is Y-DNA. It has nothing to do with kidnapping ladies and impregnating them.
This Y-DNA show your paternal line back to thousands of years. It is transmitted only from father to son and never changes.
It was know in historical records that people who arrived from Central Asia to Anatolia were several thousands (below 50.000).
Grandchildren (genetically) of Central Asia origin people are still among us and they consist approximately 10% of current population in Turkey. Remaining 90% is genetic brothers and cousins of neighboring countries., Balkan people, Central Europeans, Slavs and Mediterranean.
Genetic make up of current Turkish population is more European than Central Asian.
It is not a big surprise for the most people in Turkey...
I agree but it is not aim of this video to clear up what happened in the past.
Main idea was to answer against the lies that we are learning in the schools. History books say that all people of Anatolia are coming from Central Asia..It is a total crab....
All this video does for me is to confirm turkey's bloody, nomadic-mongoloid past. Kinda makes sense to see all these ethnicities in a turk. By that, I mean it's like a virtual road map of every country that turkey interbred/raped the female population. Look at paintings/photo's of Ottoman sultans. Start back at the beggining of the empire and go all the way up to the end of Armenian Genocide. Notice how as the years go by turks look less and less asian and more Greek/Armenian/Assyrian etc...
To be able to understand content of this video you should read about Y-DNA. It has nothing to do with inter-breeding. It is transmitted from father to son and never changes.
The aim of this video is to show that 90% of people in Turkey are not originated from Central Asia.
Bu video senin etnik kimligini sorgulamiyor..genetik orijinini DNAhaplogruplari esas alarak açikliyor ve diyorki...Türkiyedeki insanlarin %90`a yakini genetik olarak Orta Asyadaki Türklerle akraba degil...etnik kimlik olarak Türküz ancak genetik olarak Türk degiliz.
birde vikipedi geçerli bir kaynak değildir istersem o yazıları ben değiştirebilirim önemli olan kaynakların bilimsel verileri olsun geçerli bir araştırma kurulu yapmış olması lazım
ne alaka şimdi üniversitenin her türlü bilimsel araştırmalar geçerli kaynaktır mezun olduktan sonra adamın kişisel araştırmalar sadece onu bağlar doktorada master da yapsa farketmez
Bilimsle yayinlar uzmanlarin içerik ve data denetiminden sonra yayinlanir...Yayinlarda genelde bilimselligi ile güvenilir üniversitelre...öyle kafana göre çamur atamazsin...millet poposuyla güler.
benim yazdğım yazıların hepsi üniversite tarafından yazılmıştır ve hepsinin kaynağı mevcuttur ben test yaptırırsam %100 türk çıkarım aptal ben zaten türkmenim anadoluda yaşayan türklerde türkmendir
Bu videonun konusu bilimsel aratirma nasil yapilir degil...o konuyu basak kaynaklardan ögrenebilirsin. Bu isi yapanlar üniveriste bitirip Amster ve Doktora yaptiktan sonra bu çalismalari yapiyor. Oku..bilmemek ayip degil.
moğalistanda yapılan kemik araştırması Ancient DNA Tells Tales from the Grave By Nancy Touchette July 25, 2003 DNA from a 2,000-year-old burial site ... once reigned in Central Asia. Researchers in France studied DNA from more than 62 skeletons to reconstruct the ... occurred much earlier than previously thought. They also found DNA sequences similar to those in present-day Turks, supporting the idea that some of the Turkish people originated in Mongolia. The research also provides
Nobody rejects that..some people in Turkey are opriginated from Central Asia...The point is prevalance of the DNA haplogroups in Turkey compared to those areas of Central Asia.
Genetik sitelerde bahsedilen haplogrup, Orta Asya kökenlidir ve görebileceğiniz gibi, bu gene sahip olan tüm halkları turani halklardır. Bunlara TÜRKLER de dahildir. Avrupalılardan da bahsetmesi garip gelebilir fakat bazı Avrupa kavimlerinin Orta Asyadan öç ettiği blinmektedir. (Bunlar Finliler,Estonlar,Macarlar ve Bulgarlardır)
Finlileri Yakut Türklerine baglayan DNA haplogrup N`dir. Bu genin Finlandiyadaki dagalimi %70-80 civarlarinda. Ayni gen estonyalilarda %40 oraninda. Bu gen komsu ülke isvesçte %2-4 civarinda ve çogu Fin asilli olanlarda. Türkiyede DNA haplogrup N %2 civarinda.
The results of genetic researches done on Turkey's population show that over 77% of today's Turkish people in Turkey belong to M9(K) haplogroup which originated in Central Asia over 35000 years ago (National Geography)
the potentially paraphyletic haplogroup K*-M9(xK2, O, P) occurs at a fairly high frequency among the modern population of Turkey and Turkestan(Central Asia).
Yes..they are probably the DNA haplogroups that link Central Asian origin people. K, O and P halpogroupd in Turkey is around 4%.
Medical Genetic studies say the following:
"Turkey is the only country that includes a sizeable percentage of Asian and African haplogroups not listed in this table (A, ExE1b1b, C, H, L, O, R2) representing 8.5% of the total"
This is not a scientific article...Please visit the eupedia and go through the basic information there. You can see all references.
There are also number of Scientific reports in the internet.
What is your point you are trying to? I know you do not like this video and its content. Thats fine...but I have no time to talk rubbish with you...Bye...
Genetic studies performed in across modern Turkey have demonstrated the majority of Central Asian origins. From the latest genetical findings of Dr. Spencer Wells(National Geographic), ancient or proto Turks(haplogroup K) are considered to be the origins of European and Asian race, which gives a very good reason of why Turks carry racial features of both races. According to an article by N. Al-Zahery et al.,
Currently, large-scale, detailed DNA research to establish genetic genealogies of Turkic peoples is scant. Evidently, today a great number of Turks share the M9 haplogroup which was originated in Central Asia. (Bu İngilizce cümle, Türklerin Orta Asya Orjinine sahip olduğunu, yani Türk olduğunu gösteriyor)
kısacası Türk genleri orta asyadaki genlerle büyük ölçüde benzer, Türklerde orta asya kökenli M9 geni var ve genlerimizdeki K halogrubu avrsay halkları ile okyanusyadekiler arasındaki bağp hakkında da bilgi veriyor.bugün Türkiyedeki insanların %77sinde orta asyadan 35000 yıl önceden kalmaM(9)(K) halogrubu var. eğer bu çağda da bazı yerlerle genlerimiz tutuyorsa artık daha fazla düşünmemek gerekiyor.demek ki yapı hala çok değişmemiş
Diğer genetik araştırma ise Türklerde Orta Asya kökenli ve Türk geni olarak kabul edilen M9 geninin bulunduğunu göstermiştir
Özetlenen şekilde;
Keza gen testlerinin böyle çıkması doğal çünkü İlk Türklerde hem Asya hem de Avrupadaki insanlarda bulunan K halogrubuna rastlanmış, günümüz Türkiyesindeki ve Türkmenistandakilerde K29 geni büyük oranda var
anadolu türklerinin DNA sı ile orta asya türklerinin hatta hunlarla aynı olduğu bilimsel olarak genetik bilimi sitelerinde ve vikipedi de açıklanıyor
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bu siteye bakabilirsiniz moğalistandaki bir gölün kenarında yapılan kemik araştırmalarında anadolu türkleriyle dna benzerlikler bulunmuştur ve o kemikler hunlara ait olduğu saptanmıştır
Videonun anlatmaya calistigi toplam olarak, Anadoludaki gen siniflarinin durumu hakkinda bilgi vermek.Hepsi bu.Bak Finliler, Türkiyedekilerden daha cok Türklermis.Belki Macarlar da öyledir.Ama,Anadolu senin düsündügün gibi bir yer degil.Türklügün adi kalmistir.Genlerinin orani ortada.
çok biliyor görünüp hiç bir şey bilmemenden dolayı seninde recep tayyip gibi laz gürcü olduğunu düşünüyorum. bende farklı bir şey demedim ısrarla Türkiyede Türklerin sayısı 75 milyonda ancak 45 milyondur diyorum
ama sen adı kalmıştır diyerek sanki hiç Türk yok bu ülkede demeye getiriyorsun.
Etnik ve genetik kimlikleri birbirinden ayirman gerekiyor. Genetik kimlik senin biyolojik orijininle ilgili yani gerçe atalarini gösteriyor.
Etnik kimlik is Türklük,,,Video etnik kimligi inkar etmiyor. Genetik olarak bizlerin Orta Asya orijinli Türk oldugu yutturmacasinin yalan oldugunu söylüyor...
Sen kendi kafana göre bir sey diyemezsin yalniz.Bilimsel gercekler üzerinden konusmak gerek.Tabii önce bunlari okumak lazim.Bilmemek ayip degil.Ama ögrenmemek zarar verir.Öncelikle kendine.Bu meseleleri arastirmak gayet mümkün.Galileo teleskop sayesinde dünyanin yuvarlak oldugunu bulmus.Halbu ki tip egitimine parasizlik nedeniyle son vermis.Parasi olan baskalari isteseylermis Galileodan önce bu gercege ulasabilirlermis.Arastiralim.Imkanlar cok.
Benim videoda yer verdigim bilgiler tamamen bilimsel verilere dayali. Kendi uydurmam degil. Konuyla ilgili internette binlerce dosya bulabilirsin. Ben Türkiyedeki insanlari ilgilendiren bigileri topladim.
Bu çalismalar sadece Türklere özgü degillldünyadaki tüm milletler üzerinde yapiliyor.
Yorumcular etnik kimlikle genetik kimligi birbirine karistiriyor.
Örnegin DNA haplogrup J2`nin alt grubundan biri bugün Yunanlida olabilir Fransiz, Israilli yada Italyanda olabilir...Genetik olarak hepsi kardes yada kuzen ama etnik (dinve kültür) olarak farklilar.
Ayrica J2 DNA haplogrubundan birisi beyaz tenli mavi gözlüde olabilir bir Kürt kadar esmerde olabilir. Bu genler tipinide belirlemiyor. Sadece genetik orijini belirliyor.
önceden bahsettiğim gibi bu araştırmayı yapanların birde almanlar yunanlar ermeniler kürtler üzerine araştırmalarına bak oradada %25 %30 Türk dür bunlar diyorlar tamam Türkiyede yabancı ırklar karışmıştır ama orta asya kökenli Türklerde diğer milletlere karışmıştır.
1) Medikal Genetikçilerin kullandigi Y-DNA geni binlerce sene babadan ogula degismeden geçen bir gen. Sen nekadar karisirsan karis bu gen degismeden kaliyor.
2) Türk geni diye bir gen yok..Ayni sekilde Yunan geni, Alman geni Yada Fransiz genide yok...Avrupa ülkereinde R1b ve I genleri nüfusun büyük kismini olusturuyor. Slav ülkelerinde ise R1 nüfusun büyük kismini olusturuyor.
bir şeyi gözden kaçırıyorsunuz bu yüzden böyle abartılı rakamlar çıkıyor mesela sizin bu hesaplara göre Türkiyede 7 milyon Türk var fakat bu araştırmalara mardindeki araplar kürtler karadenizdeki lazlar gürcüler hepsi dahil ediliyor bunlar zaten biz Türküz demiyorki
geri kalan kesimde yapılsa bu gen araştırması %90 lara yakın Türk geni çıkar.
Biz Türkiyedeki insanlarin %90 aynaya bakinca Orta Asya kökenli Türk görmüyoruz...Anadolulu, Balkan, Egeli, Akdenizli, Kafkas ve Avrupali insanlar görüyoruz...biz genetik olaark yanibasimizdaki komsu ülkelerdeki insanlarla akrabayiz....
söylediğin konuda çok az haklısın çünkü abartmışsın tabi bunu belirli bir amç için yaptığın belli ya Türk olmadığın için kıskançlıkla yapıyorsun yada para yiyorsun haklı yanı evet gerçek Türk Türkiyede 45 milyon civarıdır ama senin söylediğine göre 7 milyon anca var saçmalık bu
R1b Avrupalilarda en yaygin olan gen...R1a is Slav orijinlilerde yaygin...
En son görüs Slavlarin atalarinin Orta Asya kökenli oldugu yönünde...Ama Türkiyedeki insanlara gelince 14`den fazla degisik DNA haplogrup var..yani her mahalleden bir gen...Avrupalilardaki yada Slavlardaki gibi tipik yaygin tek bir gen çogunlugu yok.
ikinci saçmalığınsa Türkiyedekiler yunanlara gürcülere ermenie araba daha yakın diyorsun peki yunanlıların dna araştırmasına baktınmı yüzde kaçı Türk çıkıyor gördünmü
asyadan gelen Türkler hiç diğer milletlerin dna sını değiştirmedimi at gözlüğğüle tek taraflı bakıyorsun
bizim ülkemizde elbette başka ırklardan karışım var fakat etrafımızdaki tüm ülkelerdede Türk soyu fazlasıla var
Genetik olarak Türk geni diye bir gen mevcut degil. Türklük etnik bir kimliktir ve Türkiye`de 600 senelik Türkifikasyonun bir sonucudur.
Türkiyede yasayan insanlar genetik köken olarak Mezopotamyalilar, Fenikeliler, Anadolu Yunanlilari, Makedon, Minos Uygarligi, Hititler, Kafkas, Semitik (Arap, Yahudi) gibi 14`den fazla degisik DNA haplogrubundan.
from where source you say the turk seen anatolia befor11 ADcentry(The Turk migration as defined in this article was the expansion of the Turk peoples across most of Central Asia into Europe & the Midle East between the 6th&11th centuries AD(Tribes less certainly identified as Turkic began their expansion centuries earlier as the predominant element of the Huns.Their prehistoric point of origin was the hypothetical Proto-Turkic region of the Far East including North China &inner mongolia
goran21715 4 months ago
The term Türk or Türküt, corresponding to the Chinese name tu-jue, was first used as an endonym in the Orkhon inscriptions of the Göktürks (English: Celestial Turks) of Central Asia. The first reference to "Turks" (Tujue) appears in Chinese sources of the 6th century. The earliest evidence of Turkic languages as a separate group comes from the Orkhon inscriptions of the early 8th century.
The precise date of the initial expansion from the early homeland remains unknown.
goran21715 5 months ago
Anatoli (Ανατολή) in Greek means East and Anatolia (Ανατολία), Eastland. anyway DNA is not the point. all humans are brothers eitherwise. we share 97-98% of our genes with apes. I agree with the guy that claims that the hate is created and promoted by politicians and the rulling class. about civilizations? the use to get mixed and not fight each other. you have my respectful greetings from fired Athens
zxzx191 6 months ago
@ktm066 try again. Turks are Muslim Greeks. 14 sultans had Greek mothers.
AegeanKing 8 months ago
@AegeanKing
Yes, the sultans had women of different origin, Greek, Serbian, Ukrainian, because it was a custom for emperors to combine marriage and politics, also a habit in the rest of the European royal families, but has less to do with the normal people.
And there a lots of Greeks in Greece with Turkish origin. One of them was your old premier Karamanlis
zicco26 8 months ago
Ancient Turks are Mongols, Turks, now mostly assimilated western Iranians, Greeks! Ancient Turks Mongols! Archaeology and ancient sculpture, Chinese history books! DNA have also proved this point!
ChineseHOME1 10 months ago
Ottoman sultans are all bastards. They don't represent the Turks.Turks/Turkics were from the beginning in 5000BC ( Xiongnu) a hybrid of the caucasiod and mongoloid race ( Turanoid).
Ergenekonulusu 10 months ago
Cool test, but video was fucking gay, learn to make a video without these gay effects.
AryanMede 10 months ago
@AryanMede
Sorry..I know the problem...It was my first video with the program I used...It came out like this..Other videos are better...
orkunful 10 months ago
Maybe we should have a maps of both of the mitochondrial and Y DNA compared.
faro0485 10 months ago
@faro0485
Check my mt DNA video of Turkish women..You will get the info regarding on this comment you made.
orkunful 10 months ago
hey uploader ur very funny Byzantine Empire and Roman Empire didint know how to fight with turkish soldier? why did u call them empire then. stop lying about history Turks migrated anatolia more than few times 1st was before christ but european people hide this because if they accept this they cant say to us go back to central asia and after christ (1071) history records shows turks came from central asia and after that 1200-1300 ( ancient turks) migrated to all over in europe
Tengriden 11 months ago
Nice video. x x x
turkishtoilet69 1 year ago
Many turks have Greek blood and they don't know it. The turkish propaganda makes them believe that Greeks are the bad guys. The fact is that the Greeks were living in Anatolia centuries before the turks. Christianity also have the oldest roots in today's turkey because of the Greeks again. You are sitting in a stolen land but it's ok we have Jesus by our side...Keep Constantinople it's all yours but you 'll never have the glory of the Hellines.
L3L0L0 1 year ago
Turks are a Genetically mixed nation.
But since the Turks came in the 13C in Anatolia and assimilated the people there and so they started to speak Turkish.
And Turks are only by language 1 nation! not by genetics.
shottydd 1 year ago
THE STORY IS SIMPLE, THE rulling class impose their language, traditions, religion etc over natives. So is the history of many people, such as hungarians for example.
ZamolxisGebeleizis 1 year ago
As for the video, it needs historical corrections:
How easily Turks got hold of Minor Asia when:
...it took them from 1050 to 1450 (i.e....400 whole years!!!!) to estabish any permanent control no matter if the Eastern Roman Empire was totally destroyed by the 4th crusade in 1204 and no matter if the orthodox Greek despotates continued to fight civil wars... still they needed 250 more years.
For comparison, Alexander needed 10 years for all Asia up to India and western China...
So?
notgodsemigod 1 year ago
@Ironman3446 Yes man. That is why modern Greeks remain always the definition of Mediterranean people. It is because they mixed with Turks (the ancient Mongol ones), Bulgarians and Albanians all of them apparently veeeerrrryyy Mediterranean in appearence (Mongols are hairy and Slavs and Albanians have dark eyes and hair isn't it)?
Go to an opthalmologist mate!
notgodsemigod 1 year ago
Turks on the other hand were a culture in expansion on the last 1000 years, one that absorbed by means of religion all shorts of people (including Greeks evidently). In the last 100 years Turks too felt a geographical contraction but in reality in terms of population they had an explosion as muslim populations (that were not genocided) concentrated in Turkey.
Hence, the modern consistency of Turkey is statistically less coherent and more varied than it was 150 years back.
notgodsemigod 1 year ago
Any nation has variation and by definition the nation is comprised by many tribes... otherwise it is not a nation but merely a tribe! Even within a tribe, various families have their variations.
Now Greeks used to be in expansion some 2300 years back but they are in deep contraction for the last 800 years, in particular the last 100 years (following the genocides in Minor Asia). As such their populations are smaller. Having lost their edges, the remaining ones are statistically more coherent.
notgodsemigod 1 year ago
interesting
BOGZASV8MA 1 year ago
LOL. Turks are Ancient Greek and roman and the rest
nmt1969 1 year ago
@nmt1969
Apperarently you have no enough brain cells to understand and digest the content...
orkunful 1 year ago
@orkunful Thank you so much for the video, bro. But you forget to include the Albanian origin of many "Turks". Ataturk was Albanian, I think. Most of the Ottoman generals were Albanians, too.
Also, don't forget that many Kosovars moved to Turkey this century.
EnlightenedShqiptar 1 year ago
Oringin of Central Asia is minority or NOBLE.
If you are Turkish nobel , real familly etc etc.. your the Turk descent.
xuantzi 1 year ago
well i dont hate turks that hate greeks and cypriots.Imagine if tirkish greece and cyprus were together and didnt have any war :D.We could have the control of all the world.The only enemie of greece in past was turkey.Cyprus the same and the only enemie of turkey was cyprus and greece.If we were friends we could conquer all the world
MrTurkeater 1 year ago
This video shows that Original Turks fucked everyone around them, thus having very little originality compared to the cultures (Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds, etc) that were aboriginal to what is considered modern day "Turkey".....IE Mixed Breed....
ussak1 1 year ago 2
DNA doesn't mean a lot its mainly culture that counts.
deadmanshand2010 1 year ago
@deadmanshand2010
DNA does not determine your etthnic or cultural background or languae. But some people practise absolutely opposite.They try to determine your genetic background with culture or language.
The even try to change your real genetic origin with fiction stories.
orkunful 1 year ago
Turkish are mixed coctail :D
MGLomerta 1 year ago
This is what I've been trying to tell to people, Greeks and especially Turks, for a long long time, but finally a Turkish says the same. I'm truly amazed. Bravo Orkun!
Greek20V 1 year ago 2
I agree most Turks in Turkey are decendants of the people who were already residing in those places as the Turks were very merciful conquerers, they preserved religions and historical site even to this day, The greek archbishop of the orthodox church is still in the church in istanbul and even roman artifacts are still in tact and protected throughout Turkey, yet we Turks are chastised and seen to be murderous fiends! i wonder what religion greeks would be today if Turks had not protected them?
Leverage75 1 year ago
just one question why do i look asian while iam a 100% turk explain it to me
ezzo9009 1 year ago
@ezzo9009
Answer is simple...Your ancestors are Central Asian origin Turkic that arrived to Turkey 11th century.
You are genetically real Turkic...
orkunful 1 year ago
u and us r looking at matters from different angles and beliefs..
we say 1071 is not the first but the last arrival of Turks to anatolia.. also etrusks r a branch of Hun empire (if u investigate good enough u'll see how they r alike central asian originated turkish culture), who r the baseline of roman empire.
u can call this bullshit with ur narrow horse-sight, but keep in mind, those things u call "scientific evidence" also works both ways..
DrCaniko 1 year ago
@DrCaniko
Origin of Etrucians are not clear. Some Turanists are speculating pseudo-science based claims without solid proofs.
There are different theories and but non of them are scientifically proven. Commercial exchanges and contacts are documented between the Etruscan harbours and Asia Minor. But during those dates 3rd century B.C. Central Asian Turks were not even in the region.
Reference: American Journal of Human Genetics, 2004.
orkunful 1 year ago
@DrCaniko
Sorry but DNA-haplogroup and subtype studies are very clear and provides hard evidence on origin of population in Turkey. Studies clearly showes that 90% of population in Turkey were always there past several thousands years.
Neolitic farmers (Mesopotamians) are originated in Anatolian soils and fertile crescent and native to region. This is well documented in historical records. Typical DNA haplogroups for neolithic farmers in Turkey is as high as 40% in total.
orkunful 1 year ago
@DrCaniko
Please note that when people say Turkish it means that it is a person coming from Republic or Turkey.
Turkic means a person that originated from Central Asia.
Those terms are not the same.
Regarding on language it is a completely different research topic. For example a lot of countries in Africa speak French or English. This does not make them French or British...Same applies to Turkey and central Asian Turkic tribes...
orkunful 1 year ago
This is not suprising, its those MHP idiots that keep saying all turks are from central asia that is false and lies. Turks are a mix of meddeteranian and balkan peoples. SO NO WERE not central asia MHP gp fuck youself.
070388OG 1 year ago 2
Tell me this, if when we arrived in anatolia there were 12 million people there in 1071, how come there were the same amount of people 850 years later? Does that even make sense to you?
Alihan12 2 years ago
@Alihan12
Current population of Anatolia is approx. 60 million...It is not the same amount as it was 900 years ago.
Anatolia during byzantium period was covering larger area (Northern Iraq, Caucasus...) than it is now.
Byzantium was also covering major part of Balkans in its territory.
Also keep in mind that population exchange and wars effected the population in numbers.
orkunful 2 years ago
@Alihan12
To make it more clear for you...people in Turkey are linguistically Turkic but racially and genetically not. Only 10% of population may be Central Asiain Turkic but they are also genetically mixed with local population.
orkunful 2 years ago
I didn't mean now, please add 1071+850 it would give you the year 1921... In 1921 it was more or less 12-15 million wasn't it?
Please revise your answer and thanks for this reply...
Alihan12 2 years ago
Söz konusu 1071 senelerinin Bizans imparatorlugu. Afrikadaki bir kabileden söz etmiyoruz.
Tarih kayitlari imparatorlugun Osmanli kontrolüne geçmeden önceki nüfusunu 12 milyon civarlarinda olarak tahmin ediyor.
orkunful 2 years ago
By the end of the 8th century there were 7,000,000 Byzantines, a figure that climbed to 12,000,000 people by 1025.
Reference: W. Treadgold, A History of the Byzantine State and Society, 570
orkunful 2 years ago
@Alihan12
You should read the Turkification related articles...then you can understand what really happened. I am sure it is painful for you to digest.
It is not logical that millions of people just disappear...they are assimilated and Turkified...Turkification process was more intense past 90 years.
orkunful 2 years ago
@Alihan12
have a look at the current population of Central Asian Turkic republics. If you put all of them together it hardly makes 65 million (russian origins are not excluded). How come that population of Turkey is more than Central Asian Turkic republics? Does this make sense to you? Did they all jumped to planes 1000 years ago and moved all together to Turkey? Of course not...think logical...
orkunful 2 years ago
@Alihan12
Recent DNA-haplogroup and subclade studies clearly show that only 10% of population in Turkey is originated from Central Asia. This is a scientific fact.
As a brain washed Turanist it may be a nightmare for you...but this is a fact.
orkunful 2 years ago
i am kurdish anatolian but not turk!!!
turk is a race !!! real anatolians are not turkic
GurmanciKIZ 2 years ago
@GurmanciKIZ turkish is not a race mate, type it in google and it will tel u, its someone who shares the culture and language that makes them turkish, and as for u being a kurdish anatolian, now this is the part where its bullshit- kurds can live in anatolia, but ur ancestors arent anatolian, u can find out by searching kurdish genes, u guys r from the very eastern mountains of turkey and also around iran, geneticaly u guys r related to iranians not anatolians so stop pretending lol
romeofire87 1 year ago
1.nothing new
2 turkey consists of people of turkic, georgian, slavic, greco-roman, armenian, circassian, kurd, spanish jew,arabic and african ancestry and many more
3 so what?
4 turks have always been open to other cultures and over the centuries have influenced and been influenced
5 this is not a negative thing but a postive thing, not a weakness but a greatness
:9
areyoufelson 2 years ago
I fink it is true but it has got some big wrong...ottoman political approach was pomping turk populationrecent came from asia whtever they captured ...even most turks suppose ppl living in black sea are laz ,georgianor bla bla..... here are alot for hazarian(jewis turks but they r muslim now),gagavusian turks, and I can cout ,lot of turk but now we ve mixture cos we are big civilation witout racism
boyFromBlackSea 2 years ago
amaan fuck all o tehm fuck turk furk greek fuck rum fuck armenian fuck all we are just humain thats all
KARADENIZPONTUSDUR 2 years ago
The Anatolian population we call Turks (and we are proud of it), are the indigenous people of this land for thousands of years.They are the children of Etruscans,Hittites and Troja (Trojans were Etruscan). A unique DNA marker proves that early Etruscans were from Asia Minor, making Turks cuisines to Italians.Modern Turks have also an overwhelming genetical influence from balkan nations and caucasia.DNA analysis shows that there is almost no central asian hablogroup of c3 exists in modern Turks.
vaporizer08 2 years ago
1.nothing new
2 turkey consists of people of turkic, georgian, slavic, greco-roman, armenian, circassian, kurd, spanish jew,arabic and african ancestry and many more
3 so what?
4 turks have always been open to other cultures and over the centuries have influenced and been influenced
5 this is not a negative thing but a postive thing, not a weakness but a greatness
areyoufelson 2 years ago
Turkish people of modern Turkey,are not Turks.
Τhey have nothing to do with the Turks of central Asia,who are relatives of the Mongols.
They are a mixture of Greeks,Armenians,Kurdish,Lycians,Carians and other indigenous races of Asia Minor.
They just think that they are Turks.
Their DNA is not Turkic but,they got Turkish consciousness,they feel Turks.
yianniskritikakis 2 years ago 2
Yiannis,
We are Turkishized Native Anatolians and we admit this. We don't deny it. As a Turkish National Socialist, I Renounce Ideaology Like Sharia Law And Turanism.
If saying a Turkish Guy Looks Like a Guy From Kazakhistan, That Is Like Saying a Spainard looks like Evo Morales.
SSErgenekon1488 1 year ago
We are genetic brothers with people in neighboring countries. I guess nothing unusual with this.
We have no any genetic link with people in Central Asia.
A lot of African countries speak French or English...Does this make them French or British?
orkunful 1 year ago
orkun,
Exactly, everyone needs to stop barking about Turanism and the only people who have the right to talk about that crap are Turkmens, Uzbeks, Uyghurs, Kazakhs and so forth. If all Turkish people look like Mongols, then all Spainards look like Mestizo (Native American) Hispanics. Or if you say that all Turkish people look like Mongols, then all Lebanese people look like people from Sudan. This is the logic. We are genetically 100% NATIVE ANATOLIAN. Time to debunk the myth of Turan.
SSErgenekon1488 1 year ago
@SSErgenekon1488
Turanism is real evil with a mask of nationalism. I really would like to find out who are those people behind that ideology. What is their real aim? Why do the want to alienate us to our real roots which is in Anatolia? According to them acceptance of Central Asia origin is patriotism. Does that make sense to anyone? We must fight against evil Turanist ideology.
orkunful 1 year ago 2
orkun,
Brother, you are right man. This must be a creation of the Jewish MHP party. Type in "Yahudi Alparslan Turkes" and you will know what I mean. Turanism is a Zionist invention. They also claim that they are Kemalist, when infact, this is going against true Kemalism. Because real Kemalist don't bellieve in Turan. We are genetically 100% Native Anatolians. If you say a Turkish person looks like a Central Asian, that is like saying a Spainard looks like Evo Morales or Hugo Chavez.
SSErgenekon1488 1 year ago 2
@SSErgenekon1488 "Yahudi Alparslan Turkes" you are wrong Alparslan were not jews him is sunni muslim and him went mosque Kabe in saudi arabian,
long ago Turks had no problem with jews,
now they have problem with jews in this year
Turkish people were from Göktürks empire
and you are wannabe aryan nazi SS?
Orkun your video is bullshit brainwashed only you read from eupedia fucking bullshit Eu website,
EU are anti-Turks you know
and you are not turks, you are armenian or greek!
DenizTurk94 1 year ago
@DenizTurk94 Being Greek is Good. Because we are not a mixed race.
Greeks are Pure. You have to be a Greek Orthodox to be Greek.
Thats why Greeks are Pure Blooded People
nmt1969 1 year ago
@nmt1969
Greeks are not an exception at all. You have wide range of different DNA haplogroups in Greek population. Just Google it and read for more info...
orkunful 1 year ago
@orkunful Greeks are exceptional in the sense that they are still the tribe that characterises Medditerranean people. Have you ever though of it? People around the world will unconsciously call stomeone Mediterranean ONLY if he looks like Greek. Libanese looking like Greejs are instantly called Mediterranean. Libanese that look like Arabs are instantly called Middle Eastern. Same for you Turks.
Greeks have also variation but statistically are very coherent.
notgodsemigod 1 year ago
@notgodsemigod
Turkey is very mixed. South Eastern and Eastern parts which are more Kurdish populated are more Middle Eastern looking than Mediterranean, however, please note that Genotoype and Phenotype are 2 different things.
I do not know where did you get your statistical calculation but the Medical Genetic Journals that publishing peer reviewed results clearly show that especially population of Turkey and Greeks are genetically like brothers.
orkunful 1 year ago
@orkunful Greeks are not related to Turks. It is a small part of Turks who can be related to Greeks for the simple reason of the muslimification of christians of Minor Asia. Even that ""link""" is not any valid reason to call Turks brothers of Greeks, let alone that those modern Turks that have a substantial Greek lineage are really not much more than 10% in modern Turkey.
notgodsemigod 1 year ago
@notgodsemigod
1) This video shows that some of the population in Turkey is genetically similar to not only Greeks but others.
2) The genetic haplogroups that mentioned here covers all Mediterranean region...Greeks are just tiny part of it
3) Turks means person coming from Modern Turkey mostly with native ancient Anatolian roots
4) Turkic means someone that originated from Central Asia..
This video show that 10-15% of the population in Turkey share same genetic background with Greek population.
orkunful 1 year ago
@orkunful I think it's more that 10-15%. In Ionia, I bet it's more like 75%. Don't forget that many Greek converts to Islam lived in the Greek peninsula. During the Greek Revolution and Balkan wars, guess what? They were expelled and settled in Anatolia. Thousands of Muslim Albanians did the same. After the demise of the Ottoman empire, they were all Turkified by the state.
Many Albanians live in Thrace, I hear.
EnlightenedShqiptar 1 year ago
The main message of this video is to show that current Anatolian population is grand children of ancient Anatolian's...Greeks are one of those...
Genetic evidences are clear that ancient Anatolian's are absorbed the Greek and other late coming cultures and languages...Turkish ethnic identity is the latest..before that it was Byzantium.
Ancient Anatolian`s did not disappear. Their grand children are still around with different identity.
orkunful 1 year ago
@SSErgenekon1488 If you are REAL ANATOLIANS (*Hettites) Why is your name ERGENEKON? a DONKEY from the Treet knows that TURKs of Turkey=Anatolians/Hettites by DNA,looks...... While they claim to be MONGOLID (TURANI TURKS/Ozbek KAzak....). Once People Spoke Pheonecian in Lebanon, NOW they sPEAK Arabic but they are 100% Different from Real Arabs (Saudi Arabia), Egypt in the same way! Mexico=The same way! Aztecs gave up their language to Spanish.
xSouthxKURDISTAN 1 year ago
@xSouthxKURDISTAN That's true. You Kurds claim to be Medes, but you will always by Gypsies. You can't change your DNA :)
adel999100 1 year ago
we are Turks
iliaskets 2 years ago
U dont need DNA testing for this. It is common fact that most Turks are actualy Greek in blood as well as Arab (i think the arab element in the testing was suprisingly low). Many reasons why Greko/Romans became Ottoman Turks and not all of them was becouse of force. Presure with force become more serious during recent times less than 100years.
People forget that Byzantine Tax's were very high during end of empire days thus people wilingly prefered Turk Sultan goverment less tax.+many reasons
TrelosGreek 2 years ago
not too much of arabic blood I can assure you, only in southeastern parts. arabs have never migrated into anatolia as large masses.
attilayhn 2 years ago
Bu videonun dogrulugu yada yanlisligini bilemem ama eger dogruysa bu cok ilginc bir noktayi gosteriyor. Turkluk etnik ya da genetik bir tanimlamadan ziyade kulturel veya sosyal bir tanimlamayi gosteriyor. Yeryuzunde acaba bizim gibi baska bir halk var midir ki hangi halk ile karisirsa karissin, kulturunu kimligini orijinini kaybetmemis, turklugunu surdurmustur.
gozde345 2 years ago
So why call your selves Turks...just because the ethnic cleansers chose to? You are stupid sheep, programmed by the deep "Turkish" State..probably the only real Turks in Anatolia..
The Deep "Turk" State controls you. Most of your forebears have been converted to Islam out of fear, oppression, & the annual "pedomazevma" (collection of children) converting them to Islam so they can become your concubines, and janissaries slaying their own kin.
We never needed DNA evidence to know who you are.
Aegialeus 2 years ago 2
türkmenler, yörükler asya kökenlidir düşüncesi yanlış, ne ilgisi var, bu adamlar köylerden kız alıp veriyorlar ve yerleşik topluluklarla ilişki içindeler, , hatta sarı keçililer ki en büyük türkmen grubudur tr de, yunanlarda da sarikacanis olarak geçiyorlar ve yunanistanda yaşayanları var, kısaca, ya bunlar yörükleşmiş yunanlılar ya da yunanlaşmış yörükler, bu da yörüklerin kendilerini izole tuttukları düşüncesii her durumda yalanlıyor.
utkua 2 years ago
turks=mongols???
MongolGenghis 2 years ago
most of them dont hate greeks. and almost none of them hate italians. you can be sure about it. its just the policy. and the haters here on youtube are approximately 15 year old children.
hawking10 2 years ago 15
ahhh hawking u're right... i'm turk and i have bf who is from greece... We respect greece...
Respects from TÜRKİYE C*
ebrulinacik 2 years ago
Maybe Greeks and Turks are sharing some ancestors but it does not mean they are directly related. Greeks governed western Turkey for a while, but they did not replace population either, just like the Turkics they Helenized people for some time, but never completely controlled Anatolia, the conflicts between anatolians and greeks are much deeper than recent events, they have been fighting for thousands of years.
utkua 2 years ago
finally some people with brains. thx for this video.
crrrlol 2 years ago 14
We shouldnt forget the fact that old Anatolian civilizations used to speak different languages and have different religious practices. There were lots of changes in both languages and religious practices of Anatolian people till the Roman Empire. Just because they were hellenized by the Eastern Roman Empire, why are we supposed to call these people Greek ? If so, since later they are Turkified by Ottoman Empire, we should call them Turks.
ncroc 2 years ago
ncroc yes and no...of course not all anatolian people where of greek origin...but especially in the western coeast parts etc of turkey there are and where greeks...of course not 1 single nation is homogenious 100% we dont have states based on ethnies...language and culture that is what most people use as identity...but ethnic is something else :)
RedDeadRevolva 2 years ago
Moreover, there were lots of Turks (moslems) living in Balkans and Greek islands. After 1800s (6.5 million) millions of moslem people were killed in the Balkans and many immigrated to Anatolia. Moreover many Turks (christians) were sent to Greece or Iraq (Armenians). Considering the fact that the differences were mostly due to religious practices and the languages but not races, similarities among people living Anotlia, Balkans, Greece, Armenia is not a surprise.
ncroc 2 years ago
I agree with the results but there are some problems with the conculusions. It is argued that people speaking Turkish is not related to ethnic Turks and thats ok. But same argument goes to the old Anatolian people. They were hellenized. So the fact that they were speaking Greek does not mean they were Greek. For example, people of Blacksea used to speak Greek (see Pontus) but they were of Laz/Georgian.origin.
ncroc 2 years ago
I think you got the message wrong. This video is not questioning the ethnic identity. It is clear that majority of people in Turkey are ethnicallly Turkish.
People always mix-up the ethnic identity with genetic identity.
Aim of this video is the answer false information which is telling us in the schools that we are originated from central Asia.
It is not correct and never was. Genetic studies clearly show that less than 10-15% of Turkish population is genetically from Central Asia.
orkunful 2 years ago
orkun@
Actually, that statistic is still to large in my opinion. The most amount that Turkey has of Genetic Central Asian DNA is only 1% at the most. Even before Seljuks of Azerbaijan/Iran conquested Anatolia, they had very strikingly Caucasoid feautres even back then. This is why we need to embrace the fact that we are NATIVE ANATOLIANS genetically.
SSErgenekon1488 1 year ago
If you perform a genetic scan for a larger population the amount of Central Asian origin people may go below 5% but in most optimistic case not more than 10% in Turkey. In addition those are mixed with the local population as we all know.
orkunful 1 year ago
orkun@
I must say that even when before the Seljuks conquested Anatolia Via Azerbaijan/Iran, they even had Caucasoid features then. That is why when the Seljuk dynasty was established, 99% percent of Azerbaijanis then adapted Non-Mongol Physical traits, hence why 90-95%of us Turkish people have roundly shaped eyes, instead of Chinese looking slant eyes. People need to distingiush Turkish vs Turkic so they don't get confused.
SSErgenekon1488 1 year ago
what difference does this make and who cares? when i hear turkish spoken, I feel closer..blood means very little and so does looks but shared history, language, culture and sprituality is what i call "turk"..
efsun06 2 years ago
If your real ancestors means nothing to you it is your problem..but majority of people want to know the truth.
Lets say you have a 3 years old child...one day you loose it without trace...after 30 years somehow you find Genetic evidence and locate your child lets say in Nigeria.
Your child say to you that you are not my father/or mother. I am Nigerian. What would you think?
orkunful 2 years ago
Turkiyeye gelen Turklerde bu etilerden hangileri nasil tesir etmistir, Turkiye turklerinin DNA larinin orta asya dakilerden farkli olmasi bi asimilasyon sonucumudur(yani turkiye turkleri asimile olmus anadolulularmidir?) yoksa diger farktorler varmidir? (ortak yasam, iklim tabiat sartlarina uyum etc.) Yani kisacasi kit DNA bilgileri ile DNA yorumlamasi yapmayip, sadece bilgi olarak vermen daha dogru olurdu sanirsam.
tamtam222 2 years ago
Blood line is your real Genetic/biological ID. If you prefer to ignore the fact it is up to you. You can feel yourself like an Indian too...it is your choice and no difference...but NO THANKS...I do not need a fake ID that people are trying to make me believe.
orkunful 2 years ago
In Turkey there lives 9 million Serbs in the DNA of every living Turk!!!!!
sneighwena 2 years ago
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Guuucky 2 years ago
Once a Turk u r always a Turk NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE!
SAGOL ALLAHIM TURK OLDUMU ICIN
Turk409 2 years ago
dude we have our own language and country and religion thoses dnas r lies and we r not ASIAN how could u be proud about this its like u dont care and u like to be spanish and greek and roman we r not though!
Turk409 2 years ago
we r not greek nor roman we r turks u ass holes u dont know shit and talk!
Turk409 2 years ago
How much do you know about history of Anatolia and its Turkification?
How do you know that you are genetically Turkish?
Read the article on Turkification in wikipedia (english version).
orkunful 2 years ago
Its true Turks are mixed good, but im not sure if it is that much like in the video.
Anyway, you also have to keep good in mind that all races from any country are mixed with another a way or an other.
If you go to Greece, Italy or Germany, you will see they also arent fully blooded Greeks, Italians or Germans.
lomanad 2 years ago
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Guuucky 2 years ago
I mean, what are you trying to prove with this video? Thats not a claim to be proud about that you have no true "turkish" dna. There is no such thing.
To all the turks on here: You are what you are, stop trying to change history and your past. The whole world is not stupid. Everyone knows about what you did to the Armenian/Greeks/Assyria/Kurds. It's only a matter of time before lady justice catches up with turkey. One day you will answer for your past...
HayastAnFedayi 2 years ago
The aim of this video is to show genetic origin of the people in Turkey...Crimes that committed against against Armenian, Assyrians and Kurds is not topic of this video.
This video is not approving or denying crimes that committed against innocent civilians by war criminals.
orkunful 2 years ago
I'm not saying this video is. I respect the data you compiled and agree with you on it's authenticity, I just don't agree with the way your presenting it. I appreciate your against the Genocide, but I still disagree with the presentation.
HayastAnFedayi 2 years ago
Ethnic background and genetic background are 2 different things like an apple and potato.
If somebody in a family commits a crime it does not make all family criminal.
Again...this issues are more historical and political...the video that I published here is more educational...You can discuss those issues elsewhere.
orkunful 2 years ago
I'm not sayin it makes all criminals. It doesn't take away from the fact. Unfortunately, the topic you are discussing can't reallly be seperated to political and educational. Nothing I said was political, it's all fact. The data you compiled for this video, inadverantly involves the genocide. I din't create turkeys past. I know theres a difference between ethnic and genetic. I already gave an example of that by the way turkey would steal females from conquered lands and inpregnate them.
HayastAnFedayi 2 years ago
I partly agree with your comment...Your comment is related to mt-DNA which is transmitted from mother (maternal line) side. The data we have in this video is Y-DNA. It has nothing to do with kidnapping ladies and impregnating them.
This Y-DNA show your paternal line back to thousands of years. It is transmitted only from father to son and never changes.
It was know in historical records that people who arrived from Central Asia to Anatolia were several thousands (below 50.000).
orkunful 2 years ago
Grandchildren (genetically) of Central Asia origin people are still among us and they consist approximately 10% of current population in Turkey. Remaining 90% is genetic brothers and cousins of neighboring countries., Balkan people, Central Europeans, Slavs and Mediterranean.
Genetic make up of current Turkish population is more European than Central Asian.
It is not a big surprise for the most people in Turkey...
orkunful 2 years ago
I agree but it is not aim of this video to clear up what happened in the past.
Main idea was to answer against the lies that we are learning in the schools. History books say that all people of Anatolia are coming from Central Asia..It is a total crab....
orkunful 2 years ago
All this video does for me is to confirm turkey's bloody, nomadic-mongoloid past. Kinda makes sense to see all these ethnicities in a turk. By that, I mean it's like a virtual road map of every country that turkey interbred/raped the female population. Look at paintings/photo's of Ottoman sultans. Start back at the beggining of the empire and go all the way up to the end of Armenian Genocide. Notice how as the years go by turks look less and less asian and more Greek/Armenian/Assyrian etc...
HayastAnFedayi 2 years ago
To be able to understand content of this video you should read about Y-DNA. It has nothing to do with inter-breeding. It is transmitted from father to son and never changes.
The aim of this video is to show that 90% of people in Turkey are not originated from Central Asia.
orkunful 2 years ago
@HayastAnFedayi
Bad news for you.
We are you and you are us.
miregrc 1 year ago
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Guuucky 2 years ago
Bu video senin etnik kimligini sorgulamiyor..genetik orijinini DNAhaplogruplari esas alarak açikliyor ve diyorki...Türkiyedeki insanlarin %90`a yakini genetik olarak Orta Asyadaki Türklerle akraba degil...etnik kimlik olarak Türküz ancak genetik olarak Türk degiliz.
orkunful 2 years ago
birde vikipedi geçerli bir kaynak değildir istersem o yazıları ben değiştirebilirim önemli olan kaynakların bilimsel verileri olsun geçerli bir araştırma kurulu yapmış olması lazım
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Wikipediadaki yazilar bilimsel referanslara dayali..uydurk degil..benzeri bilimsel dökümanlar internette binlerce.
Kafana göre isine geleni kabul edip isine gelmeyenleri çöpe atmak sadece kendini kandirmaca olur.
orkunful 2 years ago
ne alaka şimdi üniversitenin her türlü bilimsel araştırmalar geçerli kaynaktır mezun olduktan sonra adamın kişisel araştırmalar sadece onu bağlar doktorada master da yapsa farketmez
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Bilimsle yayinlar uzmanlarin içerik ve data denetiminden sonra yayinlanir...Yayinlarda genelde bilimselligi ile güvenilir üniversitelre...öyle kafana göre çamur atamazsin...millet poposuyla güler.
orkunful 2 years ago
benim yazdğım yazıların hepsi üniversite tarafından yazılmıştır ve hepsinin kaynağı mevcuttur ben test yaptırırsam %100 türk çıkarım aptal ben zaten türkmenim anadoluda yaşayan türklerde türkmendir
senin yazdığın yazılarda türkiyenin acaba neresinde yapmışlar araştırmaları güneydoğu anadoludamı :D
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Bu videonun konusu bilimsel aratirma nasil yapilir degil...o konuyu basak kaynaklardan ögrenebilirsin. Bu isi yapanlar üniveriste bitirip Amster ve Doktora yaptiktan sonra bu çalismalari yapiyor. Oku..bilmemek ayip degil.
orkunful 2 years ago
Sen test yaptir ondan sonra öt...
orkunful 2 years ago
ne alaka şimdi uzayla. insanların yüzünde mi yazıyor DNA ları ben sana genetik bilim sitelerinden okuduğum şeyleri söylüyorum ve hepsi doğru
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Yüzünde degilde DNA`sinda yaziyor..sen Amerikadaki genebase firmasina test yaptir bak bakalim genetik orijinine...ondan sonra konusalim...
Bu videodaki bilgiler en sone medikal genetik çalismalarindan toplama...inetrnetteki bilimsel desteksiz yorumlar degil...
orkunful 2 years ago
sen kendine DNA testi yaptir ondan sonra Turanciliga soyun...DNA testinde Fenikeli, Semitik, Yunan yada Ermeni falan çikma olasiligi oldukça yüksek..
orkunful 2 years ago
moğalistanda yapılan kemik araştırması Ancient DNA Tells Tales from the Grave By Nancy Touchette July 25, 2003 DNA from a 2,000-year-old burial site ... once reigned in Central Asia. Researchers in France studied DNA from more than 62 skeletons to reconstruct the ... occurred much earlier than previously thought. They also found DNA sequences similar to those in present-day Turks, supporting the idea that some of the Turkish people originated in Mongolia. The research also provides
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Nobody rejects that..some people in Turkey are opriginated from Central Asia...The point is prevalance of the DNA haplogroups in Turkey compared to those areas of Central Asia.
orkunful 2 years ago
Sen wikipedia`daki Turkification ile ilgilie makalenin ingilizcesini dikkatle oku..türkçesi sansürlü...
orkunful 2 years ago
Asya Merkez kökenli kavimler Türktür.
Kısacası kökenimiz Hundur..Türkiye halkı da bir mozaik falan değildir
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Sen uzayda falan yasiyosun galiba..yada Türkiyede hiç yasamadin...yada köyünden disari pek çikmadin...
orkunful 2 years ago
Genetik sitelerde bahsedilen haplogrup, Orta Asya kökenlidir ve görebileceğiniz gibi, bu gene sahip olan tüm halkları turani halklardır. Bunlara TÜRKLER de dahildir. Avrupalılardan da bahsetmesi garip gelebilir fakat bazı Avrupa kavimlerinin Orta Asyadan öç ettiği blinmektedir. (Bunlar Finliler,Estonlar,Macarlar ve Bulgarlardır)
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Finlileri Yakut Türklerine baglayan DNA haplogrup N`dir. Bu genin Finlandiyadaki dagalimi %70-80 civarlarinda. Ayni gen estonyalilarda %40 oraninda. Bu gen komsu ülke isvesçte %2-4 civarinda ve çogu Fin asilli olanlarda. Türkiyede DNA haplogrup N %2 civarinda.
orkunful 2 years ago
The results of genetic researches done on Turkey's population show that over 77% of today's Turkish people in Turkey belong to M9(K) haplogroup which originated in Central Asia over 35000 years ago (National Geography)
sakaturk61 2 years ago
the potentially paraphyletic haplogroup K*-M9(xK2, O, P) occurs at a fairly high frequency among the modern population of Turkey and Turkestan(Central Asia).
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Yes..they are probably the DNA haplogroups that link Central Asian origin people. K, O and P halpogroupd in Turkey is around 4%.
Medical Genetic studies say the following:
"Turkey is the only country that includes a sizeable percentage of Asian and African haplogroups not listed in this table (A, ExE1b1b, C, H, L, O, R2) representing 8.5% of the total"
orkunful 2 years ago
what was the pool population in these studies?
efsun06 2 years ago
This is not a scientific article...Please visit the eupedia and go through the basic information there. You can see all references.
There are also number of Scientific reports in the internet.
What is your point you are trying to? I know you do not like this video and its content. Thats fine...but I have no time to talk rubbish with you...Bye...
orkunful 2 years ago
Genetic studies performed in across modern Turkey have demonstrated the majority of Central Asian origins. From the latest genetical findings of Dr. Spencer Wells(National Geographic), ancient or proto Turks(haplogroup K) are considered to be the origins of European and Asian race, which gives a very good reason of why Turks carry racial features of both races. According to an article by N. Al-Zahery et al.,
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Currently, large-scale, detailed DNA research to establish genetic genealogies of Turkic peoples is scant. Evidently, today a great number of Turks share the M9 haplogroup which was originated in Central Asia. (Bu İngilizce cümle, Türklerin Orta Asya Orjinine sahip olduğunu, yani Türk olduğunu gösteriyor)
sakaturk61 2 years ago
kısacası Türk genleri orta asyadaki genlerle büyük ölçüde benzer, Türklerde orta asya kökenli M9 geni var ve genlerimizdeki K halogrubu avrsay halkları ile okyanusyadekiler arasındaki bağp hakkında da bilgi veriyor.bugün Türkiyedeki insanların %77sinde orta asyadan 35000 yıl önceden kalmaM(9)(K) halogrubu var. eğer bu çağda da bazı yerlerle genlerimiz tutuyorsa artık daha fazla düşünmemek gerekiyor.demek ki yapı hala çok değişmemiş
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Diğer genetik araştırma ise Türklerde Orta Asya kökenli ve Türk geni olarak kabul edilen M9 geninin bulunduğunu göstermiştir
Özetlenen şekilde;
Keza gen testlerinin böyle çıkması doğal çünkü İlk Türklerde hem Asya hem de Avrupadaki insanlarda bulunan K halogrubuna rastlanmış, günümüz Türkiyesindeki ve Türkmenistandakilerde K29 geni büyük oranda var
sakaturk61 2 years ago
anadolu türklerinin DNA sı ile orta asya türklerinin hatta hunlarla aynı olduğu bilimsel olarak genetik bilimi sitelerinde ve vikipedi de açıklanıyor
genomenewsnetwork
bu siteye bakabilirsiniz moğalistandaki bir gölün kenarında yapılan kemik araştırmalarında anadolu türkleriyle dna benzerlikler bulunmuştur ve o kemikler hunlara ait olduğu saptanmıştır
sakaturk61 2 years ago
Videonun anlatmaya calistigi toplam olarak, Anadoludaki gen siniflarinin durumu hakkinda bilgi vermek.Hepsi bu.Bak Finliler, Türkiyedekilerden daha cok Türklermis.Belki Macarlar da öyledir.Ama,Anadolu senin düsündügün gibi bir yer degil.Türklügün adi kalmistir.Genlerinin orani ortada.
uyumayanokur 2 years ago
çok biliyor görünüp hiç bir şey bilmemenden dolayı seninde recep tayyip gibi laz gürcü olduğunu düşünüyorum. bende farklı bir şey demedim ısrarla Türkiyede Türklerin sayısı 75 milyonda ancak 45 milyondur diyorum
ama sen adı kalmıştır diyerek sanki hiç Türk yok bu ülkede demeye getiriyorsun.
TurKvsAll 2 years ago
Etnik ve genetik kimlikleri birbirinden ayirman gerekiyor. Genetik kimlik senin biyolojik orijininle ilgili yani gerçe atalarini gösteriyor.
Etnik kimlik is Türklük,,,Video etnik kimligi inkar etmiyor. Genetik olarak bizlerin Orta Asya orijinli Türk oldugu yutturmacasinin yalan oldugunu söylüyor...
orkunful 2 years ago
Sen kendi kafana göre bir sey diyemezsin yalniz.Bilimsel gercekler üzerinden konusmak gerek.Tabii önce bunlari okumak lazim.Bilmemek ayip degil.Ama ögrenmemek zarar verir.Öncelikle kendine.Bu meseleleri arastirmak gayet mümkün.Galileo teleskop sayesinde dünyanin yuvarlak oldugunu bulmus.Halbu ki tip egitimine parasizlik nedeniyle son vermis.Parasi olan baskalari isteseylermis Galileodan önce bu gercege ulasabilirlermis.Arastiralim.Imkanlar cok.
uyumayanokur 2 years ago
Benim videoda yer verdigim bilgiler tamamen bilimsel verilere dayali. Kendi uydurmam degil. Konuyla ilgili internette binlerce dosya bulabilirsin. Ben Türkiyedeki insanlari ilgilendiren bigileri topladim.
Bu çalismalar sadece Türklere özgü degillldünyadaki tüm milletler üzerinde yapiliyor.
orkunful 2 years ago
Sana demedim,yorum su arkadasaydi ;
TurKvsAll :)
uyumayanokur 2 years ago
Yorum yapanlar içinde en dogru anlayan sen oldun.
Yorumcular etnik kimlikle genetik kimligi birbirine karistiriyor.
Örnegin DNA haplogrup J2`nin alt grubundan biri bugün Yunanlida olabilir Fransiz, Israilli yada Italyanda olabilir...Genetik olarak hepsi kardes yada kuzen ama etnik (dinve kültür) olarak farklilar.
Ayrica J2 DNA haplogrubundan birisi beyaz tenli mavi gözlüde olabilir bir Kürt kadar esmerde olabilir. Bu genler tipinide belirlemiyor. Sadece genetik orijini belirliyor.
orkunful 2 years ago
Bunuda unutmayin: nekadar bir belirli toprakta yasarsan, bir uzun sure sonra, genlerin o topraklara uyum saglar.
Mesela: cekik gozluluk sicak yerlerde kalkar, niye orta asyadaki HERKES cekik gozludur? Cunku oradaki hava nemli.
Turklerin teni: niye gittikce (generation) koyulasir? O sicaklikta vucudundaki pigmentler uyum saglar, bunlarda cocuklarin genetigine gecer. Yani manipule edilmis genler.
Turkiyedeki Turklerde zaten hic Turk geni yok ki.
Benim dedelerim Türkmen gocmenidir.
VizardMaskedSoldier 2 years ago
Medikal genetikçilerin DNA-hapolgruplamada kullandiklari Y-DNA babadan ogula geçen ve binlerce sene degismeden kalan bir gen.
Bu genin insanin görünümü ile odgrudan fazla ilgisi yok. Örnegin J2 DNA haplogrubundan birisi kara tenlide olabilir, beyaz tenli mavi gözlüde.
Wikipedi`da Y-DNA ile ilgili temel bilgileri bulabilirsin.
orkunful 2 years ago
Bunlari biliyorum.
Ben Y haplogroup'u demek istememistim zaten.
Dedigin dogrudur. Benim dedigimde.
Gen manupilasyonu vardir. Bu yedigin yemeklerdende yasadigin yerdende degisebilir.
VizardMaskedSoldier 2 years ago
@VizardMaskedSoldier: Kusura bakma ama yanlis...Y-DNA yedigin içtigin yemeklerden etkilenmiyor...bazi genler etkilenebilir ancak bu gen degil.
orkunful 2 years ago
Ben sana Y dnasi etkileniyor demedim, kusura bakma bu kez sen yanlissin.
Ben Y haplogroupu demek istememistim demedim mi?
Gen manipulasyonu yemeklerde nadir oluyor.
VizardMaskedSoldier 2 years ago
önceden bahsettiğim gibi bu araştırmayı yapanların birde almanlar yunanlar ermeniler kürtler üzerine araştırmalarına bak oradada %25 %30 Türk dür bunlar diyorlar tamam Türkiyede yabancı ırklar karışmıştır ama orta asya kökenli Türklerde diğer milletlere karışmıştır.
TurKvsAll 2 years ago
2 konuyu dogru anlamamiz gerekiyor...
1) Medikal Genetikçilerin kullandigi Y-DNA geni binlerce sene babadan ogula degismeden geçen bir gen. Sen nekadar karisirsan karis bu gen degismeden kaliyor.
2) Türk geni diye bir gen yok..Ayni sekilde Yunan geni, Alman geni Yada Fransiz genide yok...Avrupa ülkereinde R1b ve I genleri nüfusun büyük kismini olusturuyor. Slav ülkelerinde ise R1 nüfusun büyük kismini olusturuyor.
Türklerde her mahalleden bir gen var...
orkunful 2 years ago
Wikipedi`da Y-DNA ile ilgili temel bilgileri bulabilirsin..
orkunful 2 years ago
bir şeyi gözden kaçırıyorsunuz bu yüzden böyle abartılı rakamlar çıkıyor mesela sizin bu hesaplara göre Türkiyede 7 milyon Türk var fakat bu araştırmalara mardindeki araplar kürtler karadenizdeki lazlar gürcüler hepsi dahil ediliyor bunlar zaten biz Türküz demiyorki
geri kalan kesimde yapılsa bu gen araştırması %90 lara yakın Türk geni çıkar.
TurKvsAll 2 years ago
Batili Propagandist piclerine göre
uygur ve Özbekler
Mongoloidden cok Caucasid imis!
TÜRKLERE AIT OLAN HIC BIR BELIRLI DNA GROUBU YOK
ONA KALIRSA SIBIR TURKLERININ DNASI ORTA ASYALILARDAN HAN CINLILERINE DAHA YAKIN !
BATI OYUNLARINA USAK OLMAYIN GIDIN AYNAYA BAKIN ! AMINA KODUKLARIM
TÜRKÜM ÖLENE KADAR!
ruladrise 2 years ago
Biz Türkiyedeki insanlarin %90 aynaya bakinca Orta Asya kökenli Türk görmüyoruz...Anadolulu, Balkan, Egeli, Akdenizli, Kafkas ve Avrupali insanlar görüyoruz...biz genetik olaark yanibasimizdaki komsu ülkelerdeki insanlarla akrabayiz....
Gerçeklerin sindirmek bazen zor olabilir...
orkunful 2 years ago
söylediğin konuda çok az haklısın çünkü abartmışsın tabi bunu belirli bir amç için yaptığın belli ya Türk olmadığın için kıskançlıkla yapıyorsun yada para yiyorsun haklı yanı evet gerçek Türk Türkiyede 45 milyon civarıdır ama senin söylediğine göre 7 milyon anca var saçmalık bu
TurKvsAll 2 years ago
R1b Avrupalilarda en yaygin olan gen...R1a is Slav orijinlilerde yaygin...
En son görüs Slavlarin atalarinin Orta Asya kökenli oldugu yönünde...Ama Türkiyedeki insanlara gelince 14`den fazla degisik DNA haplogrup var..yani her mahalleden bir gen...Avrupalilardaki yada Slavlardaki gibi tipik yaygin tek bir gen çogunlugu yok.
orkunful 2 years ago
ikinci saçmalığınsa Türkiyedekiler yunanlara gürcülere ermenie araba daha yakın diyorsun peki yunanlıların dna araştırmasına baktınmı yüzde kaçı Türk çıkıyor gördünmü
asyadan gelen Türkler hiç diğer milletlerin dna sını değiştirmedimi at gözlüğğüle tek taraflı bakıyorsun
bizim ülkemizde elbette başka ırklardan karışım var fakat etrafımızdaki tüm ülkelerdede Türk soyu fazlasıla var
TurKvsAll 2 years ago
Genetik olarak Türk geni diye bir gen mevcut degil. Türklük etnik bir kimliktir ve Türkiye`de 600 senelik Türkifikasyonun bir sonucudur.
Türkiyede yasayan insanlar genetik köken olarak Mezopotamyalilar, Fenikeliler, Anadolu Yunanlilari, Makedon, Minos Uygarligi, Hititler, Kafkas, Semitik (Arap, Yahudi) gibi 14`den fazla degisik DNA haplogrubundan.
orkunful 2 years ago