Glenn Greenwald vs David Frum on Torture, Law & Israel

[canadaguy666]

Also, i LOVE that frum admitted that his "World Order" depends on the execution of will by the United States. in other words, the U.S. will exercise its laws and policies, enforcing them in other nations, even those not bound to them. Furthermore, the U.S. itself, while purportedly bound to these laws, can circumvent them, and overtly disregard them, pursuant to the conceived world order. this permits torture, assassination, economic sanctions, military action etc.

this is WORLD TYRANNY!

[canadaguy666]

frum is such a sleazy demagogue. he insists that president bush "tried" to comply with laws, including international conventions and treaties. well, he DID NOT. in fact, he was in clear violation, and even once that was acknowledged, Frum, and the neo-con zionist rat pack refuses to recant. on the contrary, he now attempts to justify what happened.

we all know why Obama dismisses prosecuting gov't officials, as political capital is valuable. Frum is just a pathetic ideologue.

[Rafnas00]

As long as america support repressive unislamic regimes in the middle east , there will be terrorism. Arab monarchs and america want military bases in mideast, not average arabs. Arab puppet monarchs wld have fallen long ago, but americans give em military and all sorts of other aid to repress their own people, just to protect the americans intrests. But this scheme is gonna backfire pretty bad eventually. We will see those puppets destroyed pretty soon

[occupypoet]

This just goes to show how difficult it is to argue with someone with a strong conviction, no matter how immoral.

Frum reveals that he considers himself to be, effectively, a member of a superior race. How else can he talk so flippantly about US government leading the world without restraint?

[devrimhan1971]

fuck u zionist bastard and killer of thousands of irakis

[8Marx8]

I am happy for Ron Paul that you are not one of his supporters!

By the way this is a very common ending when you debate any one of these idiots! When pressed it always unravels their racist and chauvinistic ideology and how they see themselves as the superior race and whatever crimes they commit are for the better "good of humanity" even when most of it are crimes against humanity!!!

[8Marx8]

It is quite revealing how that republican commentator clearly fails to make his point through legal arguments and political reasoning his only remaining bullet was to just drop the entire legal and international system when it didn't suit his position by saying fuck it yes the rules don't have to apply to us we can torture and we are still "great"!!!

Great job on how Glen just shred his "arguments" into pieces and exposed him as a propagandist lying right wing pro war monger!!!

[dearkgar]

Frum loses (any remaining) credibility when he:

1.) Dodges Greenwald's pretty straight forward hypothetical about prosecuting outright torture... Frum basically admits that in his view the US is inherently incapable of such crimes.

2.) When he claims that hostility toward the US in the Muslim world is more the result of "scantily clad women" rather than our military actions and support of Israel.

[tigerone1970]

David Frum needs to stop blabbering when he is wrong.

[shwwnn]

Greenwald asks him a factual question then looks at his paper and say: "that's correct" after Frum answers it. An obvious test of Frum's factual knowledge. He does this twice. It's equivalent of saying to Frum's face: "I don't trust your knowledge on facts, so let ME test U cuz what's written on MY paper MUST be true." He can check if they agree on facts, but only say something if there's disagreement instead of saying "that's correct" every time like he's conducting a test on the guy. Rude.

[canadaguy666]

@shwwnn rude? no. more like necessary when your having a debate with the polemic ideologue that is Frum.

[abortfailure7646]

Conservative exposed for what he really is, exceptionally stupid and self centered. "Scantily clad women" a larger reason for arab hatred than American intervention in the middle east....Wow. That must be the most asinine statement I have ever heard and reflective of stooge-mindset for the empowered elitists. "Power should trump law and justice" was another idiotic statement. I wonder what Mr. Frumpy's view on power might have been had he been born in East Timor instead of the USA. Supreme J-ass

[clockworkscott]

great upload!