peugeot 306 hdi just remapped lots of power and smoke

[556tom]

this car is fucking shit mate, no offence

[scoobyfixer]

You running that on coal?

[jamie211983]

at the end did he say its turning blue?

[MasterHackintosh]

Northern Ireland? :D

[samthornton1990]

Never beat a d turbo :)

[itsmefergal]

What's that smoke coming from the exhaust, is the engine on it's last legs. Crap in = Crap Out LOL...more LOL

[1FATPUG]

a fully modded turbo-diesel vs a fully modded turbo-petrol, "the diesel would smoke it"

your not joking haha, i dont think i could drive something that smokes like an old tractor

[Wrinkleyscrott]

My friend had one of these tuned 306 diesels he smoked me in my old Nissan Micra literally almost poisoned me lol so I got a second hand full janspeed exhaust system raced him again and thrashed him he put it up for sale the next day no joke lol

[11edmund]

Thats northern ireland :D

[biggurs]

i got a 530d and its a fucking beast!!!!!!

The mad amounts of torque is positively crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

more torque than a ferrari!!!!!!!!

........ no not faster........but more torque!!!!!!!!

Mine aint even re-mapped!!!!!

Looking for a good re-map

DIESEL TURBOS ARE THE WAY TO GO................. ALMOST EVERY 5 SERIES BEEMER I SEE IS A DIESEL

[radionautomatic]

@biggurs Cool story bro.

[MrRtct]

no smoke no poke :D 

[kusmenklote187]

french cars suck

[rfcwilliamuvf]

LOOOL fucking ace man



[tom0uk]

does he know where the accelerator is?

[teodor1403]

the reson why it smokes so much , is bad chiptuning. and why chip a diesel? cause the get more horses than a petrol car and uses less fuel

[dfutli]

Black smoke means lots of wasted unburnt fuel, get your mapping checked again if you keep driving it this way it will let go big style.

[iRiShxSpArKzZ]

No Smoke..No Poke XD

[t1000kostolomac]

thats nothing., you should see my golf I. with jetta engine on full throttle. lol

[TheKPM123]

@t1000kostolomac same engine lad.....

[t1000kostolomac]

@TheKPM123 no way in my golf is 1,6d., isnt it in peug. 1.8 or 1.9

[TheKPM123]

@t1000kostolomac eehhh?? :P

[MyHardstyles]

is that yoke in the north? seen one the same as her...

i ave a 98 dturbo wud give that thing a run for it money

[maddi2k9]

@1neroamd What Do You Drive?

[sjohnston903]

It's a good looking car. Wouldn't mind picking one up myself. Need a run around and a fixer up project. If anyone know's where I can pick one up cheap let me know.

[binman1989]

diesel for the win

[cbecks2051]

i can walk faster than that heep of shit

[vikkiandbradley07]

@1neroamd

better then petrol in some respects



[COVCITYLAD]

@KitchenSinkDub, you jus beat me to it on the correction of engine sizes lol dont really know where your coming from on the no competition bit though, i think everyone seems to have forgotten about weight here, a mk2 vtr has 106bhp per tonne as they weigh 935kg whereas a mk3 306 weighs in at 1,115kg, this gives the vts 128.3 hp per tonne, the vtr (mk2) 108 hp per tonne and the 306 116.5, so the vtr would be close but the vts piss it, point proven, case closed :D

[KitchenSinkDub]

@haxor98 For a start vts's are 1.6 16v with the vtr being a 1.6 8v, and the D turbo's are 1.9D not 2l. a 1.9 hdi with a remap will usually be producing somewhere in the 130 region with about 180ft/lbs, whereas a vts is 120bhp with 107ft/lbs. No competition.

[PugMarshall2906]

@1neroamd "DIESEL LOL"? .. Fuel costs - LOL!

[COVCITYLAD]

@ell3030 fuck off mate left in a cloud of smoke lmao, either round your area youve got some shocking drivers behind the wheel of a vtr/s or the engines are fucked, my vtr has pissed countless diesel 306's lmao, and if you were up against a vts i reckon the driver would probably jus let you win to save his petrol lmao ahh diesel lovers make me laugh

[haxor98]

@COVCITYLAD well vts is 2.0L petrol , 306 is 2.0L diesel, they're two engines that arn't really meant to be compared. vtr vs 2.0L hdi which has remap would be a close call stats wise, it's just down to the driver on that

[convictedSTONNER]

can't this fucking moron drive straight...didn't think so!

[EDP407]

@1neroamd y lol?

[donpuperone]

obviously he doesn't care about environmental sustainability

[ell3030]

these cars are so badly underated, i love it when a saxo pulls up by me, hears the diesel engine rattling away and booom gets left in a cloud of smoke

[Loew88]

FUCK!!!!!!!!

[allistairc123]

@1neroamd  lol?

[DSGturbos]

why bother tuning a diesel.... just get the XSi model if you wanted a powerful car...

[allistairc123]

@DSGturbos who said anyone wanted a powerfull car? if i wanted a powerfull car id buy somethin with a hemi.

[TheMonkeyman786]

@allistairc123 or VTEC ?

[47blackdeath]

@allistairc123 you can't buy something with a hemi with 100 euros :)

[JamieRussellcountry]

@allistairc123 plus diesel are jut better than petrol full syop, more torque stronger pull , and they can take way more power thn a petrol can....

[Pogost1ck]

@allistairc123 USA FAIL

[mr420B]

@allistairc123 why would you remap if ya dont want extra power?

[Dinocfs]

@DSGturbos because a hdi with front mount intercoller and remap will blow the shitty xsi away for fun

[drattray123]

fuckin right

[JL192com]

@Dinocfs :D yeah right

[PugMarshall2906]

@DSGturbos XSi? That's an extremely silly comment. They have locked ECU's so you cant do any worth while modifications. Just buy a GTi6 f you really want bad economy and good performance.

Diesel is the future, ask anyone with mechanical knowledge and they will tell you that. I would go into all the tech but you probably wouldn't have a single clue. Sure, people like the idiots in this video don't know how to tune a diesel, but with rising fuel costs and insurance diesel is your best bet.

[XwnXJedi]

@DSGturbos The XSI isnt quick mate....

[Pogost1ck]

@DSGturbos because a diesel is tuneable for less. Same power, more efficiency. Do the math.

[simsi2007]

@DSGturbos the xsi out of the factory was the same power as the 1.9td but the turned down the pump so it would be slower thats why more younge people have 1.9td and 2.0 hdi and every on who has a clue about cars know turbi deggers can be tuned as much as a petrol the engines are built to take more torque

[tpvalley]

@DSGturbos

because u can get more power easily from a modern diesel and u can get 50+mpg.

have u driven a tuned diesel?

try one then get back to me.

[Durkdang]

@DSGturbos

xsi? a Mapped HDI would show up a XSI. If you want a fast 306 a GTI or Rallye are the ones to buy as i have owned 4 so far

[bonnieladscotty]

@DSGturbos the most powerful 306 you can get is the GTI-6... and the funny thing is the Dturbo Block and the GTI-6 block are both the same block but with different pumps and head.. they have the XU block.. the reason GTI-6's are so powerful is because essentially the block is as tough as old boots and can take plenty of abuse before any major upgrades need to be installed, its one of the most reliable engine designs ever built which is why even on the HDi they still have the same block. :)

[scratchyrice]

@DSGturbos Diesels take much higher turbo pressures than petrols. Yes a non-turbo petrol vs a non-turbo diesel, the petrol will win by a bit. But a fully modded turbo-diesel vs a fully modded turbo-petrol, the diesel would smoke it.

[TheWorx]

dunsilly roundabout

[cmagennis927]

For a D-Turbo thats actually quite shit, look at some of the vids of DT's and you will know what im on about!

[CAndresNG]

POR LAS IMAGENES, ESTA PASANDO GASOLINA AL PISO, ACA EN COLOMBIA ESE CARRO NO SIRVE!!!!

[22bffernandes22]

hello !!!with gt18,ic 1.6 hdi and remap 180hp.without problems!!1

bye

[dbmufc]

no smoke no poke lol lovely dturbo jus da way i lik em

[2cv56]

sorry but, it smokes like sh..

[coer974]

bad bad bad...

[urbex2007]

SMOKE=BROKE. You can only fit so much diesel into a cylinder, forcing too much in reduces efficiency and power resulting in black smoke. You are blocking the turbo, EGR & CAT with soot from the UNUSED and UNBURNT diesel. That's why crappy tuning boxes damage so many cars, they inject far too much diesel. Maximum power is at the point it does NOT smoke as all fuel is used.

[cmagennis927]

@urbex2007 Do us all a favour and keep ur nerdy explanations to yourself bcuz nobody gives a fuck!

[aaron94ify]

haha............ nice one lads if anything went wrong sure you where near the antrim hospital anyway lol............

[cmagennis927]

O yea, its so funny. NOT, so funny i 4got 2 laugh

[GTE30]

its so funny!!!!!!!

[GTE30]

that is just so funny!!!!!

[WanCars]

God almighty, there's more shit being spouted in here than from farmer giles' muck spreader

[TheWorx]

is that headin onto the motorway at dunsilly?

[cantthinkovname]

oh and my 206 hdi is at 141k on a 04 plate and been remaped and no problems, just for all those taking the piss out of thier reliabilty

[stevietheg2580]

wants the turbo turning up :)

[mikeypfc89]

Looks like you have All Smoke and No Poke there, the car doesnt even move, let alone takes time to over take one car.

[johnlis12]

cuz the hdi 306 has a shit fuel pump an they always fuk up. and more hp doesent mean that it is beter

[jonnjonn1988]

i'm gonna make a stab and say torquetronix mapped this?

[johnlis12]

d turbos are a lot beter than the shity hdi

[allistairc123]

explain? a d turbo has shite brakes and heavy clutch, they sound like a tractor. and they max out at 125-30 hp, the hdi will go to 155hp. so explain how they are better??

[johnlis12]

i never sed the d turbo was faster did i their beter cuz their more reliable the fuel pump always fucks up on the hdi model an if u want a fast car buy a fuckin petrol diesels arnt ment 2 be fast

[allistairc123]

i didnt say the hdi was faster you tool. ha ha, then you compare it to a petrol. lol you couldnt argue to save your life.

oh, and the injector pump dont give bother

[AusRev]

@johnlis12

Haven't seen LeMans Series over the last few years have you?

Look at the cars at the pointy end of the field.

[WillJPalmer]

they dont max at 130hp?? hdi's will be luky to see 100k with out fuckin up.

[allistairc123]

yeah, but most cars fuckup at 100k, what do they max out then?

[WillJPalmer]

i'm tlkin bout d turbo's they go on n on if serviced properly but hdi's ment break before they hit 100k. you can get a d turbo at 160hp easily. fmic hybrid turbo bigger injectors n cam

[allistairc123]

id be interested to see a link for one? ive never herd of more than 130. derv doctor done one with methanol and water spray and got 143 bhp, but thats prob the max.

id rather have the more refined hdi and pay the cheap repairs

[WillJPalmer]

well maybe you wna try lookin on there again. d turbo 150bhp.

[allistairc123]

oh, i see it now, the one with 50 million mods and 10 grand spent on it. my intercooler cost about 300 quid and thats it. so, what do you ad to that massive list to get 160bhp without nitrous?

[WillJPalmer]

nahh not quite 10 grand m8, behave lol

115-120bhp is a £100 pump recalibration

140bhp is done with a front mount intercooler and uprated boost

160bhp is possible with cams and hybrid turbo.

LPG conversion can yield quite a bit of power too.

[allistairc123]

hmm, i always thought that thpg was an economy conversion with power decrease. how does it make extra power?

[WillJPalmer]

i dont quite know tbh but apparently it does.

[MartinObviously]

@allistairc123 lpg is only a lack of power with petrol cars, since they run either LPG or petrol. LPG with a diesel car is injected with the diesel which can give you more power, and yes it does give you more economy too when driven normally.

[AndrewStrang]

@MartinObviously Lpg is not a lack of power on petrol either most cars are either the same bhp or more. I specialise in lpg conversions in performance cars and my own evo 8 runs another 14bhp on lpg than it does on petrol due to it being a much higher octane than petrol.

[MartinObviously]

@AndrewStrang lpg in performance cars? think of all the extra weight compared to the increase in BHP. not worth it! I know there are small tanks too, but who wants to fill up that often!?

Plus, you're working on tuned engines which perform much differently to most factory spec cars.

[AndrewStrang]

@MartinObviously The extra weight in total is around 20-30kg which is basically undetectable. I also do conversions on standard road cars and they do not run less power on lpg than they do on petrol it is the same or slightly more. You can also inject petrol and lpg at the same time on a petrol car to give higher bhp. Not trying to have a go just trying to make people aware that lpg is a completely viable alternative to petrol.

[MartinObviously]

@AndrewStrang Yar, it's a good alternative for saving money. My dad had it in his Jag. got about 180 miles on 50 litres. I wasn't trying to make it look pointless :P

[urbex2007]

@WillJPalmer A pump recalibration is a posh way of saying "undo the bolts and turn it slightly" nothing more. £100 for that, you must be stupid. I doubt the figures quoted. LPG reduces power compared to diesel - go and learn about engines, how a turbo works, what an intercooler is and why so many boy racers make their cars SLOWER than standard.

[WillJPalmer]

@urbex2007 by the pump i ment the insides like changing the plunger and modifying some of the internal linkages to give me more collar travel.....

[del635]

Going by speedo vids my 1.9 looks quicker than a fmic hdi, no big mods just hdi box, 11mm pump and meth.

[stuntcrazy8]

@WillJPalmer My 306 2.0HDI has 144K on the clock, had it re-mapped 3 years ago, on 80k miles, regular service, good oil... hasnt missed a beat!

[nath140889]

a dturbo can actually be tunes to around 170bhpish where as the hdi can reach only 160bhp , the hdi has better torque tho , the reason for this is cos of the dturbo having a mechanical fuel pump , both cars are easily tuned, but id say hdi tuning wud be more expensive with it having t be remapped

[103STU]

Id like te see how long a dturb wiv 170bhp wud last b4 it shat itself lol

[himona3]

my 306 HDi is remapped to. From 90hp/205nm to 133,4hp/325,6nm. Little smoke comes sometimes and it`s serviced...

[Xenos105]

A remapped car should note smoke. Remember that the smoke is uncombusted fuel.

[roobertmay]

uncombusted? it's diesel, theres no combustion involved you twat.

[Xenos105]

Of course there is, how do you think it works, with magic?........you twat (whatever that means)

[allistairc123]

lol, ha ha, internal combustion engine lol

[roobertmay]

Its compression, not combustion, fucking tool.

[Xenos105]

and what do you think happens after the compression? how does the piston go back down? instead of insulting try to find out what happens.

[allistairc123]

ha ha cracker

[allistairc123]

your wrong, the combustion is initiated by compression

[stephenbrgoodall]

the compression in a diesel engine happens then fuel is added and the heat and pressure from the compression cause the combustion. obviously you aint an engineer mr may or a very bad one at that

[hardcoretam]

The engine is correctly called a "Compression Ignition Engine". However. inside the engine the process of "Combustion" takes place and is initiated by the compression.

[michaelovitch]

it's a d-turbo!!!!!!!

[davey106gti]

get it serviced before u do shit like that lmao

[hardcoretam]

@ davey

I think he needs a new air filter, or a K&N

[UshiranFR]

GTi-6 powaa, the performances are better and it does'nt smoke =)

[allistairc123]

intercooled hdi is not far from a gti 6

[jamie211983]

your mapper is a twat.

[ufceder]

Sorry dude quite a weak vid

[bro0tz]

it should only blow out black smoke under hard acceleration, i got my clio dci remapped and it only smokes under acceleration i would say that is remapped to much and needs to be lowered before somethin bad happens

[jonnyh1616]

invest in some injector cleaner maybe? did good for my 306 td

[m200n]

it does it because of the tuning you plonker

[callanlovezciara]

dat is fuked

screwed to the balls and bk

[tomsg1]

Who gives a fuck about the smoke, it appears because you cant control on boost fuelling very well, it clears right up as soon as you hit max boost. The extra diesel on non boost produces teh smoke, but it adds a nice bit of low down torque, its difficult to get the balance of power and smoke off boost.

[del635]

Who mapped that?

[spiderxjz]

Way too much smoke. Might not pass an MOT, shouldn't be fuelling that much.

[sparrabee]

poor map. too much fuel off boost= high egt. high egt= melted turbo.

[rabatmaroc]

al gore is going to make a :p new video :P when he see this haha

[5m17h]

Must be a bad map if its overfueling enough to smoke like that

[aly051]

Its smoking that much yet it doesnt seem to be going that fast

[jonnjonn1988]

up the m2 wreek flyin out o her! lol!

did it blow up?

use from ballymena direction?

[allistairc123]

from bangor lol

[xbox360matt]

wats the name of the song played in this vid thanks

[allistairc123]

will i

[horndogno1]

Ian Van Dahl - Will I

[theannoyingdogpoo]

This black smoke is soot and it causes lung cancer. I'm not sure whether it's cool to die of one.

[chaballs]

Why not just buy a 6 :meh

[d2urbo]

its a bag ov scrap my dturbo would eat ur hdi

[allistairc123]

this isnt mine, mines the black hdi and its 152 hp, i dont think your 125hp d turbo is going to beat it?

[tpvalley]

my mate had a hdi 2.0 in a van.When u floored it, took a while to catch up as if fuelling ECU took a while to decide or it was so tuned for economy that it underfuelled sometimes?

What was urs like as standard?

His turbo wastegate jammed on so it burst pipe also!

I'm fucking pissed off at my diesel missfire at the moment!! I'm on my second pump!

[StevenFergus]

Do the D-Turbos see much of a gain from a remap?

[NatBrazil27]

y so much smoke maaan? chip dnt look gd for it lol, gti6 ftw (Y)

[twincam86]

1 star.. the shitest remap i have ever seen

[jimmyw123mc]

my dturbo s doesnt smoke half asmuch as that and i have wound the turbo up for more boost, and everybody knows the d-turbo is faster than the hdi engine becuase the hdi doesnt have an intercooler so suffers more from turbo lag

[allistairc123]

the d-turbo is faster than the hdi because it has 7 more hp in standard form. yeah, he does need more boost on the turbo.

you are wrong about the intercooler though, extra piping and intercooler will always create more lag but this is easily cancled out by the extra power gain. the d-turbo is much more laggy than the hdi. i have an intercooler on my hdi and it dynoed at 153hp!!

no d-turbo has a chance!!

[tpvalley]

U r correct, intercoolers increase lag.

The hdi I drove was terrible for lag/ lack of responce, all it needed was more fuel off boost and on boost, like u have done.

A diesel should smoke at full power but if u keep cat thing it may clog up!

Take cat off, some still pass mot without one.

Have to turn fueling down for that of course!

[tpvalley]

Intercoolers increase lag due to extra length of pipe between turbo and inlet.

R u sure u fully understand diesels and turbos?

[allistairc123]

who?

[tpvalley]

BMW made a compound turbo diesel.

[allistairc123]

no, i mean, does who understand diesels?

are you sure you mean compound? thats usually used on heavier diesel engines and not car engines, its a totally different turbo system

[tpvalley]

when engines use a twin turbo setup the turbos r allways the same size, contrary to what u said.

If they r different sizes its a compound setup with one feeding the other (with bypass valves), small turbo for low rpm.

I ask if u know about these things because u seem misinformed about a few things.

Large engines usually use turbos of the same size also, compound is very rare, in fact I've never seen a compound setup on a big un.

twin turbo dont run in series either!

[allistairc123]

a compound turbo is a completely different thing, it works by capturing power from exaust gasses and directing it back into engine by gears or special fluid couplings, completely different from forced induction.

perhaps we are talking about different things. ill try and find some info to show you.

im not fully knowledgeable about turbo setups, but i know there is no such rule as... twin turbos are always same size.

[tpvalley]

sorry, no.

comprex turbo charging uses exhaust energy like u say and is still forced induction, just using resonance and a strange fanned wheel thing..

Compound uses a small on at low rpm feeding a big one.

Multiple turbos r just called twin or quad turbo etc and r all the same size.

[allistairc123]

resonance? please explain.

i know what you are saying..compound turbo charging is a description of turbo charging which is correct,

but a compound turbo charger as a type of single turbo that does not force air into the engine, it captures exhaust gas energy and transfers it to gear train. google it...

[tpvalley]

Resonance is when u get pulses of exhaust gas etc, the positive pulse pressurises exhaust, but when it exits the momentum of the gas leaves a negative pressure wave so sucks, this can be used with a rotor that combines inlet and exhaust gases almost, they reflect off each other- comprex turbo charging.

U r talking about a compound TURBINE I think.

Although I have not heard of the system u describe, learn something every day I suppose!

[allistairc123]

never heard of that either, so you have one rotor with exhaust and inlet gas?, how do you stop the exhaust gas getting mixed with the inlet gas?.

turbine would be a better name, but it was called a turbo when i read about it.

[tpvalley]

They actually almost touch!

Exhaust fills on space with pressure and as rotor turns this pressure forces inlet charge in, the lengths of pipe r just right so that it happens correctly, never applied to any production machine.

U know even non turbo engines use this principle, on valve overlap the resonance in the exhaust sucks through inlet after reflecting the charge that has entered exhaust.

But only at certain rpm, this is why race engines r lumpy on idle!

Ferarri tried comprex charging.

[allistairc123]

interesting. yeah, i know what you mean about the valve over lap air behaveiour, its sort of created by air momentum.

cheers

[svedr]

i thought race engines are lumpy because of agressive cams, cool. i learned something:D but i don't think there is resonance in the exhaust, accept in two stroke engines. but i know someone who got some positive pressure in intake manifold, by calculating the resonance and shi* from the opening valves:D

[tpvalley]

Racing petrol engine r lumpy due to wild cams but diesels wont really rev so long duration is not of much use.

If u can tune the inlet, u can tune exhaust, on non turbo engines that is, in fact this ex. resonance can actually suck through inlet during overlap!

2 strokes just fire twice as often, the principle is similar.

2 strokes do respond better to ex. mods though. I had a scooter, 50cc, almost doubled bhp with good exhaust upto 7bhp!lol from 4bhp! oh the power!lol.

[jamie211983]

not always.

[justfastlol]

you fucking just made me watch that and for what you cunt fuck of all it is is a sack of black smoke

[TheSkylineShopVancou]

Lots of smoke, but no power that I can see

[allistairc123]

hp is hard to see, it takes a lot of hp to be visable in the form of acclereation faster than other objects at simmilar velocity.

the camera car is higher hp so stays with the car being filimed. the traffic however is accelerating to 70 mph to exit slip road

[TheSkylineShopVancou]

Fair enough statement, I was trying to be an asshole about it but well, If you admit the chase car is more powerful so be it...You might want to reduce the amount of smoke though, I can see police getting a little upset

[allistairc123]

yeah, i agree, it was too smokey, it was turned down a bit after that!.

and yeah, truth is they are not powerfull at all but compared to most small cars they go ok. cheers

[ChrisWoodsDrums]

That much smoke isnt good, its all unburt diesel. Ive got a DTurbo S basically the same as the DTurbo but 20 more horsepower. Running a much nicer bosch pump and boosting slightly more on the turbo. Ive had a new cam shaft put in. Anyone who says Dturbos arnt powerful, they must be madd.. The acceleration on mine is nuts. If you get the gear changes right you can get 0-60 under 8 seconds. mines soon to be sent to the derv doctor to have a 2nd turbo and 2nd front mounted intercooler fitted. :D

[allistairc123]

do you mean a 2nd turbo as in twin tubo or as in replace the orig one?

yeah, my hdi does it in about 8.

[ChrisWoodsDrums]

as in have it twin turboed. Rather than have one turbo boosting about 22psi, have two each boosting about 15 ish...