Jason Williams and Mike Bibby: Tale of Two Kings

[cerritoboy]

Jason Williams is way better than Steve Nash!

[imurk60]

I look up to Bibby

[ThiscityDead]

Willams better passer bibby better shooter

[timmytran2010]

who were they playing at 1:40?

[goodD2shoez]

@timmytran2010

its the All-Star game

[eezee83]

Man remember when basketball was awesome and everyone didn't try to assemble a super team?

[TripleJJJay]

Williams is entertaining as hell. Can't deny that. Loved watching him play. Bibby is a better basketball player, point blank. Do you want White Chocolate shooting the last shot, or Bibby? Just two different type of PG's, Both "turrrible" on defense, so can't even judge them on that.

And throughout Bibby's tenure with he Kings, he didn't need to have Rajon Rondo, Jason Kidd type of assist numbers. He had other play makers around him. Far from a ball hog, he played within Rick Adelmans offense.

[BIB10100]

Bibby is a different type of player. When it comes to basketball the coach is not looking for style points. Bibby is one the great point gaurds to play the game. He can shoot, he used to be able to attack the basket at a high level during his prime years, he is a great playmaker w/ an amazingly high basketball IQ. Dont get me wrong J-Will was a great player and an amazing playmaker.

[BIB10100]

Bibby is a different type of player. When it comes to basketball the coach is not looking for style points. Bibby is one the great point gaurds to play the game. He can shoot, he used to be able to attack the basket at a high level during his prime years, he is a great playmaker w/ an amazingly high basketball IQ.

[rankdoby]

LOL mike bibby had HAIR!!!

[cmebfresh1]

the only similar thing about these players they both played for heat also welcome bibby ... much love jason william

[rookman64]

play @1:40 is sick

[Mplaysbeatlab]

@rookman64 i was gonna say that!! u know what that play is so hot ill say it again, 1:40 was sick!!!!!! lol

[steveknox96]

Jason Williams is more fun to watch!

[TheGrowingBoy1]

Jason Williams was a flashly pg but mike bibby can score and dish the rock.

[whiteXboii]

jason williams, plays pointguard better, mike bibby shoots too much..

[Ousvec]

I think Mike Bibby was better leader of his team but Jason Williams was better showman and had better ball-handling and dribling of course.

[FIRERESTART]

jason williams is better passer and mike bibby is abetter shooter i like them both on how they play

[dogtagfarts]

1:53 OMG kik ass



[GORAQULE]

I wanna cry, if I see this team somwhere before 7 years.

Williams is amazing, but Mike is better.

[niksisero]

bibby is better shooter

[Smackinwitit544]

jason williams is a better player but i think mike bibby is a better leader....if that makes sense

[eckodenim]

Jwill Carried at 1:16.. right in front of the ref!!

[newyorkz1]

@eckodenim no he didnt sorry but ur an idiot for saying he carried.... the refs know what they are doing that "carry" as you say was all in one motion and he didnt dribble again after he did it.. and he passed it.. so...... no he did not carry could pass by j will

[eckodenim]

@newyorkz1

are you kidding me?? pause at 1:17 the ball is cleary over his shoulder then he dribbles again. Thats a carry.

[MrlhOise]

jwill looks much bettah! nice mix!

[focusonthree]

jason kidd is 10x better than both of them

[megaballa44]

focusonthree... j-will da most creative passer all-time bibby way better form and clean lookin mid range and long range shot then kidd ok williams bibby 10x better handles then kidd lol

[TeamDime7]

there obviously different. J-Will is flashy and dope wit his assists. bibby's a clutch shooter and runs the pick n roll ideal to what stockton did with malone. The thing about J-Will tho is that he chucks up three's that he don't always makes. He's not as smart of a player than bibby iz. Bibby brought stability to the Kings and won them a championship in 02 if it wasnt for the fixed series. So i have to think bibby is better on a team because he was closer. but i'd take J-Will in 1 on 1.

[thomaswesthoefer]

i totally agree, i love them both but the only thing that i dont agree with is the fact that i wouldnt pick j-will over bibby one on one, j-will more team player his tricks wont work one on one, and bibby is a way better shooter and inside scorer, but i give them both props, and im not going to mention championships cause thats a team prospect not a single player prospect. peace tom west

[TeamDime7]

you make a good point. J-Will flashiness is about passing and he can't pass to any1 1on 1. so good point. Overall i would say bibby is the better player if i had to pick. He is so underated. He 1 of the best clutch shooters in the game. Never gets the credit he deserves tho.

[megaballa44]

um williams would trash bibby once again why are ya'll bringing up passing of course u can't pass to anyone 1 on 1 but listen young grasshopper williams has sick handles put them both on the court in there prime williams would have my vote...the fake behind the back pass is a trick that HE DON'T HAVE TO PASS TO ANYONE HE SCORES WIT DAT MOVE...and another thing i believe he did the HOP DRIBBLE ON BIBBY AND SCORED... but none the less my two fav point guards eva....

[newwavex13]

1:39 is sick.

[TheBibby10]

Whats the song?

[burbanksfinest]

Juiced by Nytrus, hella underground nor cal dude.

[Dewwork541]

@burbanksfinest Is there a way to download it?

[bakaj]

Also Bibby had Shareef Abdur Rahim who was better then Gasol and bibby did not do nothing with him...

JWIll Destroyed Bibby everytime they playewd look up the highlightsd and stats....

[bakaj]

Every good PG avg 3 TOs a game but you dont hear nothing about it... look at kidd paul d williams etc...

[PrimetimeAME]

none of ya'll now shit bout dis game williams better passer duh bibby better mid range shooter there like a tie at da three when heat won there championship williams was hurt bet ya'll knew that the next year when wade got hurt member when da heat had a 17 game win streak williams was averagin 16ppg 5.7 apg bibby at the time jus came back from a thumb injury 17ppg and 4 apg when williams has to he can step up member when williams had 34 p and 7 a and 5 treys in orlando

[sdkie]

Jason Williams was obviously more flashy but lets be real..

Mike Bibby>>Jason Williams..

Not even close

[VMoss32]

he made Bibby look like a fool@ 1:52 lol i love that move shit is dope.

[creepnick]

bibby is the shit! jw is the best !

[AKAKingJames]

Great video man. What song is that?

[smohan123]

nice audio and video mixes

[remybonjasky2]

nice mix man.. these are my two favorite point gaurds when i was growing up.. still love jason hate to see him retire even though he still has some good year or two left and still got love for mike also.. no matter what they will always be sac-town's kings

[BLB285]

one of the illest to ever play

[richskin20]

one of the best passer's ever to play in the nba

[slymys55]

It elates me that the Kings never won a ring, especially in 2002, fix or no fix. Since they turned their back on Williams, a person who introduced their exciting playing style, he has the last laugh in having something they will never get, a ring.

[slymys55]

Bibby is garbage. I have always hated and still hate him since he will always be JWill's rival.

All this crap talk about Williams not being productive for the Kings is not accurate. He was risky early in his career, but he was in the process of changing his game to satisfy the team. That's why he had decent numbers and good asset/turnover ratio for the Grizz. Imagine having that type of player with the high scoring Kings.

[wespetit]

You must not know anything about ball. Mike Bibby has substance. Jason Williams is all show. Yeah, i loved the flashy moves and passes but besides that what did he have....nada. He couldn't shoot the ball with consistency, weak driver, not the best floor general, not the most competitive. Worst of all, he couldn't play defense at all ( that's why they never played him at the end of games..yeah even with the Heat and that's why they had Payton).Bibby's game might be simple but he gets it done.

[slymys55]

where do i begin, my friend. Williams was only benched in 4Q in 2000-01 which led to his trade since he was unhappy. so implying that he was benched in the 4Q his entire career is misleading. Bibby joined a team that was getting better each year, thus, he just stepped into a role on a team that was already good. Williams was the reason Webber even wanted to be a King, so Sacramento can thank him for that.

[slymys55]

i enjoyed watching Williams on my League Pass on 11/26/01 pick apart his former team for the first time since being traded (19pts, 13asts, 4 stls, 3 reb, 2 to) winning late in the game and making Bibby look stupid. Williams ending up leading his team to a W after inheriting a crap team Bibby never led to the playoffs in 3 seasons.

[slymys55]

after their run in 2002, the Kings didnt do shit. Bibby upchucked the ball way more then Williams, 13.8 FGA vs. 10.6 FGA career respectively. Williams led solid career later having a league best assist-turnover ratio all while battling knee tendinitis much of his career as evidenced by his injuries and knee braces being worn beginning in 1999-00.

[slymys55]

I am not sure you were watching, but Williams went 10-11 FG in Game 6 of the 2006 Eastern Conference Finals. the only difference between Williams/Bibbys Conference Championship performances is that Williams led his team to the finals. Oops.

the only thing Bibby gets done is his stats on winning-less teams while making us all yawn. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I live in Atlanta and await the day Bibby gets traded.

[wespetit]

My friend, how can you be talking from an impartial stand point? You even said you hated Mike Bibby. I like both players and by the way Jason Williams was one of the players that inspired me when i was younger. See i didn't quite understood the game of basketball at that time. I thought having flash meant having substance.

Although i still liked his game, as i got more educated about the game of basketball and about the point guard position, i started to have a critical approach to it.

[wespetit]

First, did you ever wonder why J-Will wasn't playing in the 4th quarter during the 2000-2001 season? Wait,let me help you, DEFENSE. He has none. Second, I find it interesting that when Mike Bibby joined the team they went to the Western Conference finals while having the same core players (C-Web, Peja, Vlade, Christie). The only thing that changed was Bibby (by the way: 20ppg, 5apg, 44% in 16. With a healthy Peja, a Christie that is assuming his role....they would have been champs of 2001-2002.

[VMoss32]

your wrong about him not playing in the 4th quarter bcuz of his D. Jason Williams used to sit out fourth quarters because he was turnover prone and its been like that his whole time with the Kings everyone knows that do some research. Seriously bro!

[wespetit]

Bibby made the team better ( at least when it counted the most...playoffs). But let's compare with J-Will 's stats in the playoffs during 2000-2001 so that you can understand better. In 8 games he averaged 8ppg, 2.2 apg, while shooting 42%. Hey...these are his numbers my friend.

Third, you are talking about a game? Come on, he was pumped up that night or something. He was mad he had been traded i don't know. But that game means nothing. Give me 3 or 4 games at leats bro.

[wespetit]

Really? J-Will inherited a crap team that belonged to Bibby? Are you sure? Because Bibby never played with Gasol

(18ppg 9rpg, 51%- rookie season).. the point is that the team was rebuilding and the players were very different....they even changed the city. Do you watch the N.B.A dude?

Fitht, yeah the Kings didn't go far after 2001-2002. They at least made it to 2nd round two years after...before they started going in a different direction. Overall, we can say they went further with Bibby.

[wespetit]

He had a solide career? Ok true, but who's better? Bibby: season 16ppg 6apg, 43% / playoffs 17ppg, 5apg, 41%- Williams : season 11ppg, 6apg, 39%, playoffs 10ppg, 3apg, 39%.

The numbers speek for themselves my friend (I love statistics/math).

Yeah J-will has a ring....but i dont think he was the leader...he was just another role player. He could have been replaced by any other starting point guard ( 9ppg, 4apg, and 40%). Fisher who's not a real PG would have done better.

[wespetit]

Finally, your last statement prooves that you don't know anything about basketball.

Why the hell would ATL ttrade a floor general and one of the best shooter in the NBA in Mike Bibby when they acquired him a year ago and when they are currently 4th in the Eastern conference? Only behind team like Boston, Cleveland and Orlando..the Beasts of the East . Just recognize that Bibby is better. Period.

[slymys55]

blah blah blah. if Williams would have averaged nearly 14 FGA a game for his career he would easily be up there with 16ppg. next thing i am going to hear from the basketball genius is how awesome Kendall Gill was because he was good on paper. i can address each one of your "i love Mike Bibby" comments, but i don't need to waste all of my time.

Bibby's career will be over soon, he will never get a ring, and no one will ever remember him. too bad you can't say the same about Williams.

End.

[cooliovasquez]

nah hes not sorry

[pucpimp]

mike bibby can't hold a candle to j will. i couldn't stop yawning during the bibby "highlights". i was not upset to see that ball hog go

[burbanksfinest]

Williams put on a much better show but bibby was a lot more productive and helped the kings reach points in the playoffs williams couldn't take them too, which is why all the jwill highlights are fancy passes and bibby's are basically him scoring cause vlade and webb did most of the fancy pass work

[wespetit]

Good comment, although i have to disagree about Williams putting a much better show. J-Will was flashy. It was nice to watch. But Bibby gave you a show when it really counted...in the playoffs..when everybody is fighting for that championship. And he did it by killing teams with his J (one of the best in the league by the way). And i love J-Will. Growing up, I loved watching him play. But if you're talking about putting on a show,Bibby's way is better. We all wanted to hit the last shot...

[pucpimp]

Who has the championship out of the two guys? Exactly. Plus I don't know what everybody is talking about with the playoffs. He had ONE good year in the playoffs the year we should have won (game 6, cough, couch), and yes he carried us, but after that where's the Bibby highlights in postseason? He completely SUCKED during the Seattle series the year we traded Webb

[PrimetimeAME]

hey

[delez24]

@burbanksfinest true about sacramento's bigs always getting a lot of assists... you can add brad miller to that list

[wespetit]

Mike Bibby can't hold J-Will. You must be kidding. You know, if it wasn't for Doug Christie, the Kings would have been champions. Bibby was the missing piece to the puzzle ( a consistent point guard ). I remember him putting the team on his shoulders in the playoffs and just killing the mavs and lakers when it was C-Web's role ( remember game 5 2002 vs LA). Jason Williams was enver capable of doing that. It's nice to show the flashy moves, but in the end it's about the championship.

[DjHackettizzle]

That a boy Gilo, legit video

[Accident15]

hey this is a sick mix! great job.

GO KINGS!!