Toscanini rehearsal Beethoven Ouverture Coriolano - NBC 1944

[GA4N]

I LOVE THIS !!! That is engagement !!!! THAT IS GREAT !!!!! Not like a shitty Yo Yo Ma ......

[therealh]

Ahahahahahahahah it's amazing to hear him swear in his Parma accent!!!

[bernalor1]

It was indeed an ignorant comment of the Maestro, who truly was a great interpretive genius. Some believe he was the greatest conductor of all time. Any one who speaks negatively about Toscanini is only a fool. And, as the saying goes "the fool says in his heart there is no God." Toscanini was sent to us by God, and we should be ever thankful and fortunate that we had the priviledge of hearing his performances. How wonderful that these performances were preserved through the marvels of science.

[srothbardt]

They put up with him and even loved the old man.

[hernia56]

Ignorant? I've conducted the piece as well. And if you sir HAD a sense of rhythm, you would agree with my comment rather than make a personal attack, in my opinion probably motivated by idolatry. This performance is out of rhythm, and at times out of pulse and in several places, out of phase. I stand behind my comments. Go find someone else to attack.

[Gorboduc]

How did they manage not to laugh after 1:13?

[hernia56]

marcxopoco: as long as you are making personal attacks, I'll simply add that you are no fool. Only an ass.

[Clebernaief]

No Brasil, diríamos que "baixou o espírito" de Beethoven nele. Os gritos junto com os acordes rogando por força, energia, destemor... me arrepiaram intensamente.

Beethoven's soul went in him.

[volodya2]

Quanta forza!

[LisztBusoni]

Porco di una santissima puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu­uuuuuu xD! 

[hernia56]

For his legendary status an a rhythmmeister, he sure ignores the dotted quarter eighths throughout - then yells at the basses.. Sure you have to find the music, but pricise and clean rhythm MUST propel the music. jes' sayin'! AT the end the 2nd quarters are rushed.  Maybe the standards of yesteryear just weren't what they are today - even in a college orchestra - or a good HS Band!

[Freud55]

@hernia56 He lived at a time before the American technicians understood the true way to play music. Just sayin'. 

[hernia56]

@Freud55 You contradict yourself. American technique grew from after WWII to today. And we HAVE learned to play between the notes. True in the 70'd maybe not so much....but we generally had EUROPEAN CONDUCTORS. HAH!!!!!!

[hernia56]

@Freud55 You contradict yourself. American technique grew from after WWII to today. And we HAVE learned to play between the notes. True in the 70'd maybe not so much....but we generally had EUROPEAN CONDUCTORS. HAH!!!!!!

[marcxopoco]

Half witted @hernia56 could give Toscanini lessons in meter and rhythm.

He could also give Rembrandt lessons in handling light and shade,

and Isaac Newton lessons in math and physics.

[bayridgemaestro]

@hernia56 What an ignorant comment to make about a musical genius like Toscanini. Perhaps the recording quality is making you hear things. I know this work and have conducted and I don't hear what you are hearing. But what do I know.

[darchr90]

@hernia56 the difference is that today's orchestra only seek for "preciseness" like you do and prior orchestras seeked for "emotion" and "feeling" to let the music live

[ibk1980]

wowww, he sounds really pissed off heheeheh. Great and historical recording. I love he singing with the orchestra.

[sallyrob101]

This is one example that shows how Toscanini was able to get such powerful performances of Beethoven's music with the NBC Symphony. He was tough, very demanding, and quite precise in what he wanted. He had great musicians, but he knew they needed direction if the orchestra to give its absolute best. This was particularly important with the NBC orchestra because they only gave one performance each week and the entire nation could hear it via the radio.