He doesn't say much interesting, but this was: "An event also because Richter consistently refuses to let the broadcasters to stream his concert because he believes that music should be experienced in a concert hall."
oistrach conductor, richter plays grieg...this is an interesting combination....how come such a thing to stand....is that true ? we never see the conductor there...
If you just watch his hands, arms, and back, you can easily imagine this is Franz Liszt or Grieg himself. I truly believe there is no difference in playing ability, and sound. There are so many great piano concerti but this one ranks as one of the top. It's hard to believe such music (as composed) is even possible. Sviatoslav Richter owns the 20th century.
don´t know, it must be a clip from the Norwegian Broadcasting. I know they have the whole concerto in sound, but if more than this is filmed I don´t know.
rachmaninoff´s compositions are rather eclectic but he developed of course the technical abilities of the piano and also his sound is pretty distinctive.the piano concertos including the paganini rhapsody re really great,his symphonies rather weak they re "concertos without piano" ;))
i do really like the sacred works of the orthodox church by rachmaninoff very much!
nosehow makes some interesting points...i am fascinated that Rachmaninoff actually played this...there again many great pianists have of course...richter does make a strong case for this composition - not sure strong enough for me, but it is a good performance of the work...whether it is great music or not is of course a matter for long and controversial discussion~!
...so resuliert die popularität griegs tatsächlich aus diesem national gefärbten melodiereichtum,der aber nicht wie bei sibelius eine tonale landschaftsmalerei darstellt,sondern ein auf folkloristischen elementen beruhender kolorit des melodiösen.seine tonsprache ist konventionell und rückwärtsgewandt,insofern hat grieg außer den wunderbaren melodien in peer gynt z.b. im gegensatz zu sibelius nichts wirklich neues kreiiert------->das ist seine schwäche!
man kann bei grieg zwar einen gewissen melodischen erfindungsreichtum konstatieren,jedoch tut er sich mit der verarbeitung der motive und themen schwer,was in seiner kammermusik und auch seiner klaviersonate z.b. festzustellen ist.das gilt freilich nicht für seine größten kompositionen.jedoch ist ein komponist nur dann wirklich meisterhaft,wenn all die unten genannten kriterien zusammenwirken.bei grieg findet doch eher eine aneinanderreihung als eine verarbeitung des materials statt.
that i never heard before...but i have no reason to disbelieve it...although i have never found any evidence that rachmaninoff every played the grieg concerto...he did however play the schumann which is often associated with it, but is of course a far superior work in every way (my opinion of course). Rachmaninoff might have liked some of the tunes perhaps in the grieg...
Rach not only played, but conducted it(1908 St Petersburg).The overwhelming influence on his own concerto style was,while still in his teens, hearing Siloti practising the Grieg, which is evident in the original version of his f#minor no.1.
Not only the"tunes",altho Rach had a fair stock himself,but especially the form and the sonorous relation of piano/orch, which in 1868was stunningly original:crystal clarity&brilliance,yet with warmth,color,expressive power & lyricism...what more to ask?
...grieg ist als komponist eher schwach.bis auf das klavierkonzert,peer gynt und einige seiner lyrischen stücke,sind die themeneinfälle eher schwach bzw.unplastisch und die verarbeitung sehr dilettantisch.bei schubert jedoch ist fast alles zumindest poetisch under hat etwas neues kreiert,nämlich die unendliche melodie in den "himmlischn längen"seiner späten klaviersonaten.exposition und reprise sind absolut identisch.diese werke haben durchaus suchtcharakter,sie sind wunderbar! :)
yes mursum does make a good point...what i am saying is subjective...although i am not sure grieg is great in the same way as, say, rachmaninoff, although the point mursum makes about schubert short works is a very valid comment (i am no great fan of schubert either, but that is again a personal view).
...indeed the 2nd and 3rd piano concerto of rachmaninow do really end like grieg´s concerto.there is the great tutti after the cadenza,piano and orchestra together come to an end by a very strong dynamics and expression!
Why not? Defining "Great music" is really difficult and Grieg is in my opinion great and at the same level with chopin, Brahms or anyone. Not everything has to be virtuosic, flashy and sensational. Even little pieces (for example Schubert's moment musicaux) contain enormous amount of beauty and good music. It is not really my problem if you consider Griegs music somehow inferior but we certainly are not to criticise what Richter and other great pianists choose to play.
...oh,not at all========>there are worlds between chopin and grieg and especially between him and brahms.nearly every composition of brahms is a true and real masterpiece.
So what? All these arguments are largely based on opinion/personal preference. Chopin and Brahms were just examples I didnt bother to mention all composers I know. Of course there are "world" (ehm?) between different composers since nearly all composers developed their own style during their lifetime and we really cannot compare "greatness of music" between various composers. I just wanted to express my own opinions. Yeah Brahms wrote mostly masterpieces and as did Grieg.
es gibt schon kompositorische kriterien,was einen großen von einem nicht so großen komponisten unterscheidet,und diese basieren nicht nur auf geschmack--->es ist die einzigartige handschrift,die sich in der erfindung der themen,der vielschichtigkeit der modulationen und der motivischen verarbeitung des materials auszeichnet.balance zwischen form und ausdruck und vor allem die virtuosität des handwerklichen,durch das immer die personalität und singularität scheint und zwar meisterhaft!
in answer to Samsommo's question...its not that i don't like it as such...its pleasant enough. But it is not really 'great' music in the way that much of his other repertoire is, such as rachmaninoff, brahms, beethoven, chopin, liszt, prokofiev, etc,etc. I always associate the grieg concerto with people in competitions who get through unexpectedly and cant play anything better! a kind of last resort! Its ok but a great pianist could surely put his time to something better!
Richter certainly didn't play this for he was forced to do so. Perhaps he liked this piece as much as he liked music of those you mentioned. who knows.. Why this wouldn't be great music? Because YOU THINK so? wow outrageous.
This concerto needs a great pianist to sound great ;-) maybe that's why he ageed do play it? Anyway, I would agree that Grieg's concerto is sort of 'weak' - if compared to many other famous romantic works of this genre
I would say that,as with,for example,Mozart,simplicity,purity &freshness are exceedingly difficult to express really well.If you add on the perfectly balanced"romantic"& dance elements,such a work becomes a steep challenge to great musicians,regardless of"technical"level.
This said,while enjoying Richter for his great qualities,i'd describe his interpretation as hotly russian & "animal",rather than coolly nordic & spacious
@pianoenthusiast11 before being so judgemental, you should probably remember that Rachmaninoff considered this concerto as being the best ever written...
@pianoenthusiast11 I'm just spit-balling here, but my guess would be he plays it because it's a great masterpiece of the piano repertory, it's fun to play and the audiences love it. But I understand what you're saying; like the Mendelssohn piano concertos, the Grieg seems always to be classified (unconsciously if not consciously) as a piece you play when you're a very young student, but give up the minute you can play Rachmaninoff. A pity, because it's all wonderful music.
Thank you!I was present in his concert in Oslo the same year 1968),and it has forever changed my wiew on music. I had never before experienced something similar and the concert made a lifelong impact on my perception of music communication, which I bear in my heart 40 years after. I became a musician myself, and will always cherish that experience and also when I heard him live in 1993. The recordings are merely a shadow compared with his power on the podium. He will always be my "maestro"!
I would be very happy to read from you in which way affected you Sviatoslav Richter in your perception of music communication. You see, I never heard him live, the last time he was in my country was 1993, and I was 15 at this time and... I didn't know him!!!! Maybe you can understand, how I'm feeling right now about this. His records are for me something like a wonder. How was it to hear the maestro life?
Of course! Bejamin Britten said Richter was "the best pianist ever". Sammenlign f.x. oktavløpet hans med hvem som helst av de andre, det er som en maskinpistolsalve - ingen av de andre inkl. f.x. Andsnes kommer nær!
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what language is the commentator speaking?
TJFNYC212 5 months ago
he was a machine (in a good sense)
minasgekos 5 months ago
Absolutely fascinating - what a find!
paulprocopolis 8 months ago
1:50 - 2:20 unbelievable!!!
berlinzerberus 8 months ago
Is there any other recordings of Oistrakh as a conductor....???
sam0xin 9 months ago
I'm trying to enter my text there but I can't! :((((
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago 4
Richter cared.
MetroDuroc 1 year ago
He doesn't say much interesting, but this was: "An event also because Richter consistently refuses to let the broadcasters to stream his concert because he believes that music should be experienced in a concert hall."
The rest is just bla bla bla...
slowkvant 1 year ago
what the F*** at 2:04-2:17 the God came down to earth to posses Richter.
benjosephcuyacot 1 year ago
Truly amazing !!!
arthurtwoshed 1 year ago
One great pianist.
Japipapi 1 year ago
I've seen hundreds of Richter recordings on youtube and I honestly didn't know him until I saw him play like this
Jamesdude2000 1 year ago
oistrach conductor, richter plays grieg...this is an interesting combination....how come such a thing to stand....is that true ? we never see the conductor there...
paganviodio 1 year ago
I claim that this is 'great' music, thereby invalidating pianoenthusiast11's comment.
kuribas 1 year ago 2
Oistrakh conducture ,I've never see this before.
loboris1995 1 year ago
I never imagined Richter playing Grieg Ballade or this concerto but he did!
lovesGenet 1 year ago
Does anybody anywhere have the whole piece?!?!
BOSOX9004 1 year ago
If you just watch his hands, arms, and back, you can easily imagine this is Franz Liszt or Grieg himself. I truly believe there is no difference in playing ability, and sound. There are so many great piano concerti but this one ranks as one of the top. It's hard to believe such music (as composed) is even possible. Sviatoslav Richter owns the 20th century.
Deneb33 1 year ago 3
I wish I could hear such performances as Richter's in life after death: the quality of sound would be better live )))
francorussie2 1 year ago
i think its better in molto...
Liqyd 1 year ago
1:53 Damn the talking!
iplongnin 1 year ago
where does this come from? did somebody record over it or something?
ReturnOfTheStienway 1 year ago
don´t know, it must be a clip from the Norwegian Broadcasting. I know they have the whole concerto in sound, but if more than this is filmed I don´t know.
samsonno 1 year ago
the textures and shadows he creates are stunning.
calloffthedogs 2 years ago
Every time I see it, this fragment touches me so much!
Not a single moment of self-display, you just recognize, that this man is working hard to get music out of this piano with an orchestra in his neck.
And he does that so perfectly!
christophleipzig 2 years ago 2
pity that the first line is missing.... i was really curious about how he playd it, but the best interpretation i've ever heard
thege6 2 years ago
HJHGUYI
idanshtur21 2 years ago
2:18 perfect instantane
livestrongpiano 2 years ago
whow.... this is a treasure under the recordings of Richter !!!!!
uhartchristian 2 years ago 2
Thanks for uploading this unique treasure!
I wonder why the other movements are nowhere to be seen!!
superbemaison 2 years ago 3
заткни свою пасть!
Krasnenkoff 2 years ago 4
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При всем уважении... играет, как этюд.
MVSegelman 2 years ago
Richter talks directly to the Unconscious.
hansmeyer111 2 years ago 4
MASTER of Piano forte !
sam0xin 3 years ago 10
ui
wunderbar!
wanjabelaga 3 years ago 2
now this is some perfomance.
Timmytimtimtm 3 years ago 5
i must say richter the great plays the cadenzas really tremendous and i cannot imagine to find a better way as he does!
kajohada 3 years ago 4
rachmaninoff´s compositions are rather eclectic but he developed of course the technical abilities of the piano and also his sound is pretty distinctive.the piano concertos including the paganini rhapsody re really great,his symphonies rather weak they re "concertos without piano" ;))
i do really like the sacred works of the orthodox church by rachmaninoff very much!
kajohada 3 years ago
nosehow makes some interesting points...i am fascinated that Rachmaninoff actually played this...there again many great pianists have of course...richter does make a strong case for this composition - not sure strong enough for me, but it is a good performance of the work...whether it is great music or not is of course a matter for long and controversial discussion~!
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
...so resuliert die popularität griegs tatsächlich aus diesem national gefärbten melodiereichtum,der aber nicht wie bei sibelius eine tonale landschaftsmalerei darstellt,sondern ein auf folkloristischen elementen beruhender kolorit des melodiösen.seine tonsprache ist konventionell und rückwärtsgewandt,insofern hat grieg außer den wunderbaren melodien in peer gynt z.b. im gegensatz zu sibelius nichts wirklich neues kreiiert------->das ist seine schwäche!
kajohada 3 years ago
man kann bei grieg zwar einen gewissen melodischen erfindungsreichtum konstatieren,jedoch tut er sich mit der verarbeitung der motive und themen schwer,was in seiner kammermusik und auch seiner klaviersonate z.b. festzustellen ist.das gilt freilich nicht für seine größten kompositionen.jedoch ist ein komponist nur dann wirklich meisterhaft,wenn all die unten genannten kriterien zusammenwirken.bei grieg findet doch eher eine aneinanderreihung als eine verarbeitung des materials statt.
kajohada 3 years ago
that i never heard before...but i have no reason to disbelieve it...although i have never found any evidence that rachmaninoff every played the grieg concerto...he did however play the schumann which is often associated with it, but is of course a far superior work in every way (my opinion of course). Rachmaninoff might have liked some of the tunes perhaps in the grieg...
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
Rach not only played, but conducted it(1908 St Petersburg).The overwhelming influence on his own concerto style was,while still in his teens, hearing Siloti practising the Grieg, which is evident in the original version of his f#minor no.1.
Not only the"tunes",altho Rach had a fair stock himself,but especially the form and the sonorous relation of piano/orch, which in 1868was stunningly original:crystal clarity&brilliance,yet with warmth,color,expressive power & lyricism...what more to ask?
NOSEhow2LIV 3 years ago 3
...grieg ist als komponist eher schwach.bis auf das klavierkonzert,peer gynt und einige seiner lyrischen stücke,sind die themeneinfälle eher schwach bzw.unplastisch und die verarbeitung sehr dilettantisch.bei schubert jedoch ist fast alles zumindest poetisch under hat etwas neues kreiert,nämlich die unendliche melodie in den "himmlischn längen"seiner späten klaviersonaten.exposition und reprise sind absolut identisch.diese werke haben durchaus suchtcharakter,sie sind wunderbar! :)
kajohada 3 years ago
yes mursum does make a good point...what i am saying is subjective...although i am not sure grieg is great in the same way as, say, rachmaninoff, although the point mursum makes about schubert short works is a very valid comment (i am no great fan of schubert either, but that is again a personal view).
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto composition was influenced by Grieg's, it was one of his favorite piano concertos.
RabidCh 3 years ago
...indeed the 2nd and 3rd piano concerto of rachmaninow do really end like grieg´s concerto.there is the great tutti after the cadenza,piano and orchestra together come to an end by a very strong dynamics and expression!
kajohada 3 years ago
And the 1st starts quite the same as Grieg's
lscully3 2 years ago
This concert is for no reason greatly underestimated!
PokushajMetala 3 years ago
in response to mursum, i am not sure that anyone could really claim this was 'great' music, could they?
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
I think Richter once said he liked Grieg for his "freshness". The "greatness" of Grieg´s music can certainly be discussed.
samsonno 3 years ago
Why not? Defining "Great music" is really difficult and Grieg is in my opinion great and at the same level with chopin, Brahms or anyone. Not everything has to be virtuosic, flashy and sensational. Even little pieces (for example Schubert's moment musicaux) contain enormous amount of beauty and good music. It is not really my problem if you consider Griegs music somehow inferior but we certainly are not to criticise what Richter and other great pianists choose to play.
mursum151 3 years ago
...oh,not at all========>there are worlds between chopin and grieg and especially between him and brahms.nearly every composition of brahms is a true and real masterpiece.
kajohada 3 years ago
So what? All these arguments are largely based on opinion/personal preference. Chopin and Brahms were just examples I didnt bother to mention all composers I know. Of course there are "world" (ehm?) between different composers since nearly all composers developed their own style during their lifetime and we really cannot compare "greatness of music" between various composers. I just wanted to express my own opinions. Yeah Brahms wrote mostly masterpieces and as did Grieg.
mursum151 3 years ago
es gibt schon kompositorische kriterien,was einen großen von einem nicht so großen komponisten unterscheidet,und diese basieren nicht nur auf geschmack--->es ist die einzigartige handschrift,die sich in der erfindung der themen,der vielschichtigkeit der modulationen und der motivischen verarbeitung des materials auszeichnet.balance zwischen form und ausdruck und vor allem die virtuosität des handwerklichen,durch das immer die personalität und singularität scheint und zwar meisterhaft!
kajohada 3 years ago
@pianoenthusiast11 It sounds real good, which is an important quality in music. :)
I wish we had a better recording of this.
44032 10 months ago
in answer to Samsommo's question...its not that i don't like it as such...its pleasant enough. But it is not really 'great' music in the way that much of his other repertoire is, such as rachmaninoff, brahms, beethoven, chopin, liszt, prokofiev, etc,etc. I always associate the grieg concerto with people in competitions who get through unexpectedly and cant play anything better! a kind of last resort! Its ok but a great pianist could surely put his time to something better!
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
Richter certainly didn't play this for he was forced to do so. Perhaps he liked this piece as much as he liked music of those you mentioned. who knows.. Why this wouldn't be great music? Because YOU THINK so? wow outrageous.
mursum151 3 years ago
wonderful richter as always - but why does a great pianist play the grieg concerto?!!
pianoenthusiast11 3 years ago
Interesting question! I get the impression that you don´t like it then? Why?
samsonno 3 years ago
This concerto needs a great pianist to sound great ;-) maybe that's why he ageed do play it? Anyway, I would agree that Grieg's concerto is sort of 'weak' - if compared to many other famous romantic works of this genre
fatalerror1936 3 years ago
I would say that,as with,for example,Mozart,simplicity,purity &freshness are exceedingly difficult to express really well.If you add on the perfectly balanced"romantic"& dance elements,such a work becomes a steep challenge to great musicians,regardless of"technical"level.
This said,while enjoying Richter for his great qualities,i'd describe his interpretation as hotly russian & "animal",rather than coolly nordic & spacious
NOSEhow2LIV 3 years ago
@pianoenthusiast11 before being so judgemental, you should probably remember that Rachmaninoff considered this concerto as being the best ever written...
godelike 1 year ago
@pianoenthusiast11 I'm just spit-balling here, but my guess would be he plays it because it's a great masterpiece of the piano repertory, it's fun to play and the audiences love it. But I understand what you're saying; like the Mendelssohn piano concertos, the Grieg seems always to be classified (unconsciously if not consciously) as a piece you play when you're a very young student, but give up the minute you can play Rachmaninoff. A pity, because it's all wonderful music.
assindiastignani 11 months ago
@pianoenthusiast11 Because he can
smellmysmegma 7 months ago
Ah fra norge.. Richter og Oistrakh!! Søren.. er nok født noen år for sent..
VegliaBorletti 3 years ago
tremendous!!--------->r i c h t e r,yes that´s it, really terrific and sensational!!!
kajohada 3 years ago
the best pianist ever in the top shape
jungwirthmartin 3 years ago
Thank you!I was present in his concert in Oslo the same year 1968),and it has forever changed my wiew on music. I had never before experienced something similar and the concert made a lifelong impact on my perception of music communication, which I bear in my heart 40 years after. I became a musician myself, and will always cherish that experience and also when I heard him live in 1993. The recordings are merely a shadow compared with his power on the podium. He will always be my "maestro"!
samsonno 3 years ago
I would be very happy to read from you in which way affected you Sviatoslav Richter in your perception of music communication. You see, I never heard him live, the last time he was in my country was 1993, and I was 15 at this time and... I didn't know him!!!! Maybe you can understand, how I'm feeling right now about this. His records are for me something like a wonder. How was it to hear the maestro life?
hansmeyer111 3 years ago
I will reply to you tomorrow in private, otherwise it will be too personal for YT.
samsonno 3 years ago
Fantastic!
ibrahimvinogradov 3 years ago
0:29 - 0:32 - klasse!!
mandyschulz 3 years ago
Of course! Bejamin Britten said Richter was "the best pianist ever". Sammenlign f.x. oktavløpet hans med hvem som helst av de andre, det er som en maskinpistolsalve - ingen av de andre inkl. f.x. Andsnes kommer nær!
samsonno 3 years ago
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! this is....a jewel.
glacialform 3 years ago
Wow... now this is a treat.
RabidCh 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this document. It's surely on of the few documents of Richter live in the 60's...
20Regards 3 years ago
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audioheaven202 3 years ago
Wooooooow!!!!!!! thanks very much!!!
MadameOrchestre 3 years ago
Really rare video!
What a treat!
Thank you so much!
truecrypt 3 years ago