The ORI are like the new wave of radicalist christians and muslims who only seek to destroy and divide humanity with they're God driven extremism. Where is the SG1 when you need them the most.
If you no longer are what you believe is good, then what is the point of survival? Daniel is actually really stupid in his contradiction. The ancients cannot interfere and still be pure ascended beings. To "survive" they have to stay true to their principals.
@Culturealimprovement Sometimes survival means bending or even breaking your principles. If who and what you are leads to your own destruction, then you can choose to accept it or change. I do not believe either option is morally greater. However, if who and what you are also means the destruction of one or many others, then I would argue that acceptance makes you responsible, and thus morally the wrong choice.
@DeifiedRacer That would certainly prolong the survival of the flesh, but that is not the case with the ascended beings. They have no existence without the principals they used to achieve ascended status. The survival would not happen if they stray from the course....
@Culturealimprovement Well, if you actually paid attention to the show, you would realize that ascension in no way REQUIRES a profoundly "good" sense of principles. In fact it requires none at all. An extremely heightened use of the brain is sufficient. So, they don't exist as principles, but as energy with a massive amount of knowledge. Energy is still physical though, and can effectively be destroyed, as done to the Ori. They are still living conscious beings that can be destroyed.
@DeifiedRacer You're interpretation makes more sense the @CulturealImprovment's one... but while morality doesn't effect their ability to reach/maintain ascension, isn't it implied in both Meridian and the Tao of Rodney, which together allow us to see both routes, that a certain 'mindset' is required to achieve it.
Oma could 'amp' Daniel but he had to 'get it' and this 'epiphany' factor seems to be greatly reinforced by Rodney who otherwise could have descended as a hok'tar.
I love Micheal Shanks! Is he doing anything now? I know Amanda Tapping is on Sactuary, btw awesome show, and RDA is doing a McGyver Movie (rumour) and is spending time with his kids, I don't see Tea'c doing anything or Micheal Shanks. They did a bit of Atlantis here and there.
@Dalbert342 Yes, but just because some people eat, drink, and kill, doesn't mean they are all the same. The act of doing does not mean anything. It's the purpose that means everything.
@Dalbert342 you are missing my point. I was saying that even if people do the exact same action, the end results could be different. The ancients can be different from the Ori, even if they also act on the humans.
@uniterscron The point is that even ancients said that the Ori started with the best intentions but became corrupted and evil over time....that's the reason why they don't want to mess with humans in our galaxy. But its implied that if the Ascended Ori came into our galaxy,ancients would fight them...but they won't act against human followers
I love that bit where he says that he wont be a live to see it as he is basicly saying that he will never bow down to the Ori and that he will die fighting them
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I find that this conversation deals with too much hate, its not the baisis of religion that gets us into trouble its how its interperted and used that does, now i do have great respect for religion, but now how human try to turn it and use it to justify any action that hurt another being
Well I'm religious, but thats not the point Im gonna state. =) So Don't worry, your right Religion does start wars, I won't deny that. But so does intolerance, greed, and expansionism.
I take it your a scientist or scientific mind due to your earlier comments.. Good for you, I'm not going to tell you want you can and can't say, read. Thats your free will, but lets think how those wars were fought? The bloody and brutality was due to weapons fashioned by scientific minds.
well wars or not weapons have always been in our world if u like it or not, if we haven't made guns and shit they would most likley use wood-axes and knifes, and that would just be worse.
Holy Hannah. . . Daniel Jackson isn't just gorgeous, he gives me the damn chills when he gets fierce like this. Regarding the mythology, most of it's scrambled. Mordred was actually the High Priest of the Celtic Church according to some and Arthur was the bad guy in the whole mess. :P Just to stimulate some discussion.
Religion isn't evil people are. Most religions preach tolerance and the nuturing of the more positive aspects of human nature...but there are always those douche bags that interpret things one way and won't stand for other people's interpretation. And this doesn't stop at religion or philosophy, just think about the nonstop bickering about the Founding Fathers "really meant" when they wrote the U.S. constitution.
People are just douchebags and they'll find any excuse to hurt one another.
there's nothing to read, religion, especially the 3 abrahamic religions teach nothing but hate and intolerance to people, not to mention false promises and is a prison for your mind, besides aren't you a little old for imaginary friends? wise up and pick up a REAL book like something about biology or quantum physics
ye cus when u read my comment did it say prize allah or god bless something something? no, i dont belive in god i think its totaly retarded if u did, but that wasnt my point was it? and no it dont learn about hate and intolerance, more of forgiveness and shit, so you fail. now go stay in the corner like a good little EMO
i havent even talked about WTC and seriusly ur trying to say that i belive in the bible seriusly? are you retarded its my opinion if i do or dont, and you should respect either. its not the religion's fault, its the ppl that use the religion as a shield bashing and usisng it for power and fear
fuck you and your respect, I don't respect anybody who is religious, fuck that person, every religious person should be fucking executed! cause they are the morons that keep fucking up the world
oh really? well just look at mankind's recorded history and you'll see that most of the wars (about 90%) the most bloody and brutal wars were all based on religious hatred
"You know who they're going to come for next? I won't pretend to know what that war will look like or in what battlefield it will take place, but then, I won't be alive to see it."
morgaine la fey, is half sister of king arthur, daughter of igraine,sister of vivian hiest priestess of avalon, viviane died killed by morgana's and arthurs insestuous son,and after her death the highets trained priestess raised by viviane to succed her was morgaine, so she was according to history the last living lady of the lake. there are variations of this but, yes she was the lady of the lake.
Morgan La Fey is not the Lady of the Lake, she is half-sister to King Arthur, according to legend. She and the Lady of the Lake are two different people.
No she isn't...Morgan is Arthur's half-sister according to the legend...and Lady of the Lake doesn't appear until Arthur brakes the Sword in the Stone and is given Excalibur as a replacment..read up on your myths,dude
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Actually it was Merlin and Morgan who helped, the others like Ohma didn;t help w/ the Ori. As always, the other just sit by and watch those who walke the thin line. Not to try and shoot you down though, but i do agree with Daniel and Dalbert342, the ancients need to act.
@dragon5114 Because the pple of the Tau'ri(Earth) are somehow the descendants of the Ancients...their own great great great grandchildren.....their 2nd evolution..... that's why they're willing to help...in little ways....
what happen when you talk about something and week later its in a tv show humm
97 - 98 funny thing is is all on tape with the fbi and the ncis lol in side job how do i know
1 real name is jack i look like my dad clone ? and air force brat i was in seach&rescqe
and its list as sg1 of wa state a real team that why scifi is now syfy the wighters steling
life story and make money off them well not any more i win and i will win long after you dope heads are gone sg-1 wins
scouttroop291 2 months ago
The ORI are like the new wave of radicalist christians and muslims who only seek to destroy and divide humanity with they're God driven extremism. Where is the SG1 when you need them the most.
simouny 2 months ago
If you no longer are what you believe is good, then what is the point of survival? Daniel is actually really stupid in his contradiction. The ancients cannot interfere and still be pure ascended beings. To "survive" they have to stay true to their principals.
Culturealimprovement 6 months ago
@Culturealimprovement Sometimes survival means bending or even breaking your principles. If who and what you are leads to your own destruction, then you can choose to accept it or change. I do not believe either option is morally greater. However, if who and what you are also means the destruction of one or many others, then I would argue that acceptance makes you responsible, and thus morally the wrong choice.
DeifiedRacer 2 months ago
@DeifiedRacer That would certainly prolong the survival of the flesh, but that is not the case with the ascended beings. They have no existence without the principals they used to achieve ascended status. The survival would not happen if they stray from the course....
Culturealimprovement 2 months ago
@Culturealimprovement Well, if you actually paid attention to the show, you would realize that ascension in no way REQUIRES a profoundly "good" sense of principles. In fact it requires none at all. An extremely heightened use of the brain is sufficient. So, they don't exist as principles, but as energy with a massive amount of knowledge. Energy is still physical though, and can effectively be destroyed, as done to the Ori. They are still living conscious beings that can be destroyed.
DeifiedRacer 2 months ago
@DeifiedRacer You're interpretation makes more sense the @CulturealImprovment's one... but while morality doesn't effect their ability to reach/maintain ascension, isn't it implied in both Meridian and the Tao of Rodney, which together allow us to see both routes, that a certain 'mindset' is required to achieve it.
Oma could 'amp' Daniel but he had to 'get it' and this 'epiphany' factor seems to be greatly reinforced by Rodney who otherwise could have descended as a hok'tar.
Onifos 1 month ago
she like the medfor for the Seminole Indians and the tokera are pot heads ghol are like the drug cartels humm war good thing jack lives in the end
scouttroop291 6 months ago
@scouttroop291 shut up queer
claton95 5 months ago
@claton95 funny you call me gay but your the one the showers with men i know you love me in that way sparten
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scouttroop291 3 months ago
Who knows the song at the very end of this episode when the camera is backing away from Atlantis to show how epic it is and then the credits come in?
starflame34 8 months ago
who ever said they didnt like this clip is stupid to a capital s
startrekiman2 8 months ago
@starofsanity actually they sound like all religions
Webzlinger 8 months ago
Morgan La Fey is damn hot!
bbenjoe 8 months ago
I love Micheal Shanks! Is he doing anything now? I know Amanda Tapping is on Sactuary, btw awesome show, and RDA is doing a McGyver Movie (rumour) and is spending time with his kids, I don't see Tea'c doing anything or Micheal Shanks. They did a bit of Atlantis here and there.
LiveLaughLove8489 11 months ago
@LiveLaughLove8489 Shanks was in a episode of Burn Notice.....
Dalbert342 11 months ago
Sarah Strange aka Morgan Le Faye is beautiful....
isal3 1 year ago
Yeah, the Ancients' philosophy of non-interference was such a cop-out especially all the messes that they left behind for others to clean up.
Fbueller129 1 year ago
@Fbueller129 B/c they were cowards.
LiveLaughLove8489 11 months ago
@LiveLaughLove8489 They are not cowards,they just don't want to get involved because then they would be no better then the Ori
Dalbert342 11 months ago
@Dalbert342 Yes, but just because some people eat, drink, and kill, doesn't mean they are all the same. The act of doing does not mean anything. It's the purpose that means everything.
uniterscron 9 months ago
@uniterscron Thats some twisted logic...talk is cheap....its action that matters...not what you say,but what you do
Dalbert342 9 months ago
@Dalbert342 you are missing my point. I was saying that even if people do the exact same action, the end results could be different. The ancients can be different from the Ori, even if they also act on the humans.
uniterscron 8 months ago
@uniterscron The point is that even ancients said that the Ori started with the best intentions but became corrupted and evil over time....that's the reason why they don't want to mess with humans in our galaxy. But its implied that if the Ascended Ori came into our galaxy,ancients would fight them...but they won't act against human followers
Dalbert342 8 months ago
I love Daniel's speech here, the music just makes it all the better. I wish there was more awesome Stargate stuff like this :'(
Dranunu9 1 year ago
I love that bit where he says that he wont be a live to see it as he is basicly saying that he will never bow down to the Ori and that he will die fighting them
CymruAlteran 1 year ago 4
@CymruAlteran
ye man...thats fucking true!Daniel the best!
Bazsigood 1 year ago
I love Daniel! <3
JainaSkylar 1 year ago
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I'll be in my bunk.
hollyshortrules 1 year ago 4
I...really love this guy...
Ghanima16 2 years ago 6
I was wondering for the sense of a project is this speech cosidered persuasive???
OlympianSaint 2 years ago
@OlympianSaint Yes, since in the next scene, Morgan gives in and tries to help, but the others of her kind stops her. So yeah, she was persuaded...
MuffinJinReturns 1 year ago
he can do a great speech. All his speeches in stargate r really good
awwwwok 2 years ago 41
Daniel made a lot of speeches in his time, and a lot in the last two years of SG-1, but I think this one stood out as one of his best.
IzDiaries 2 years ago 45
He sees someone else's point of view and situation, very logical.
Usul573 2 years ago 9
Right at the beginning, i thought it said "SciFi" on Daniel's jacket!! I was like ok..... then it moved :)
RoonilWizib 2 years ago
LOL
Ghanima16 2 years ago
docela dobry ale moc tomu nerozumím :-)
theKATY8 2 years ago
Tyjo, tohle je jeden z nejpomalejších proslovů, co kdy Daniel řekl - jinak mluví fakt rychle :D ... tenhle díl běžel před 14ti dny u nás v TV, ale jestli chceš vědět, co řiká anglicky, tak se podiv na Portal Stargate na Wikipedii na Transcripts dílu The Pegasus Project ;-)
NiobeNightingale 2 years ago
I find that this conversation deals with too much hate, its not the baisis of religion that gets us into trouble its how its interperted and used that does, now i do have great respect for religion, but now how human try to turn it and use it to justify any action that hurt another being
kdpyne 2 years ago 4
Well I'm religious, but thats not the point Im gonna state. =) So Don't worry, your right Religion does start wars, I won't deny that. But so does intolerance, greed, and expansionism.
I take it your a scientist or scientific mind due to your earlier comments.. Good for you, I'm not going to tell you want you can and can't say, read. Thats your free will, but lets think how those wars were fought? The bloody and brutality was due to weapons fashioned by scientific minds.
ussanzac 2 years ago
it's the why that counts here, not the with
SuperboyConnerKent 2 years ago
we wouldn't need weapons if it wasn't for hate-wars, besides, if you get skin cancer, you wont pray it away
SuperboyConnerKent 2 years ago
well wars or not weapons have always been in our world if u like it or not, if we haven't made guns and shit they would most likley use wood-axes and knifes, and that would just be worse.
dannes22 2 years ago
O hu lo the orie
tshelby123 2 years ago
I would say this comes second to the speech to the head Prior in my list of Jackson's best speeches.
MarcusTheAbsolute 2 years ago
Holy Hannah. . . Daniel Jackson isn't just gorgeous, he gives me the damn chills when he gets fierce like this. Regarding the mythology, most of it's scrambled. Mordred was actually the High Priest of the Celtic Church according to some and Arthur was the bad guy in the whole mess. :P Just to stimulate some discussion.
Jerlana 2 years ago
Religion isn't evil people are. Most religions preach tolerance and the nuturing of the more positive aspects of human nature...but there are always those douche bags that interpret things one way and won't stand for other people's interpretation. And this doesn't stop at religion or philosophy, just think about the nonstop bickering about the Founding Fathers "really meant" when they wrote the U.S. constitution.
People are just douchebags and they'll find any excuse to hurt one another.
Blazingdeath486 2 years ago 3
Amen.
nds2 2 years ago 3
Exacly, they just use the religion as a shield to make it just and true when its really not.
dannes22 2 years ago
religion = evil, PERIOD!!!
SuperboyConnerKent 2 years ago
no, you retard should learn a little about it first no? read the bible and then u se if its so evil or the ppl using a religion.
dannes22 2 years ago
there's nothing to read, religion, especially the 3 abrahamic religions teach nothing but hate and intolerance to people, not to mention false promises and is a prison for your mind, besides aren't you a little old for imaginary friends? wise up and pick up a REAL book like something about biology or quantum physics
SuperboyConnerKent 2 years ago
ye cus when u read my comment did it say prize allah or god bless something something? no, i dont belive in god i think its totaly retarded if u did, but that wasnt my point was it? and no it dont learn about hate and intolerance, more of forgiveness and shit, so you fail. now go stay in the corner like a good little EMO
dannes22 2 years ago
you started your bible crap which reeks of brainless redneck worship
SuperboyConnerKent 2 years ago
seriusly read the comments retard fuck face.
dannes22 2 years ago
I did, and trust me, if it wasn't for religion for example, the WTC would still stand
SuperboyConnerKent 2 years ago
i havent even talked about WTC and seriusly ur trying to say that i belive in the bible seriusly? are you retarded its my opinion if i do or dont, and you should respect either. its not the religion's fault, its the ppl that use the religion as a shield bashing and usisng it for power and fear
dannes22 2 years ago
fuck you and your respect, I don't respect anybody who is religious, fuck that person, every religious person should be fucking executed! cause they are the morons that keep fucking up the world
oh really? well just look at mankind's recorded history and you'll see that most of the wars (about 90%) the most bloody and brutal wars were all based on religious hatred
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well i did not know hitler have ressurected. good for you mr.hitler, cus thats what ur saying. fuck face
dannes22 2 years ago
I hate the human race, but that's beside the point
SuperboyConnerKent 2 years ago
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then go take suicide cus, ur 1 of us.
dannes22 2 years ago
"You know who they're going to come for next? I won't pretend to know what that war will look like or in what battlefield it will take place, but then, I won't be alive to see it."
erdemhasan 3 years ago 7
ur o awesome that you can quote cus we didnt just hear that
dannes22 2 years ago
amazing speach i love this scene
asdffdfgd 3 years ago
probably daniels most enigmatic, touching speeches.
amazing yet again from michael shanks
adzent123 3 years ago 11
This may just be Daniel's finest hour. It is one of the ten best TV/movie speeches if you ask me.
SchlechterWolf 3 years ago 7
morgaine la fey, is half sister of king arthur, daughter of igraine,sister of vivian hiest priestess of avalon, viviane died killed by morgana's and arthurs insestuous son,and after her death the highets trained priestess raised by viviane to succed her was morgaine, so she was according to history the last living lady of the lake. there are variations of this but, yes she was the lady of the lake.
astrideuridice 3 years ago 5
That is seriously enigmatic.
Mckaysunderstudy 3 years ago
Morgan La Fey is not the Lady of the Lake, she is half-sister to King Arthur, according to legend. She and the Lady of the Lake are two different people.
FlirtingStalker 3 years ago
and actually morgan la fey isnt the lady of the lake...that was 1 version
darthkarr 3 years ago
dude, he's a good speaker!
bluedragon1836 4 years ago 11
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actually Morgan IS the lady Of The Lake. Anyone who read something about Arthur and all that stuff knows that ... or at least should know.
lenigate 4 years ago
No she isn't...Morgan is Arthur's half-sister according to the legend...and Lady of the Lake doesn't appear until Arthur brakes the Sword in the Stone and is given Excalibur as a replacment..read up on your myths,dude
Dalbert342 3 years ago 3
there r so many different version sof the story.. the driectos and script wrioters chose one that "fits" in with their story line
darthkarr 4 years ago
You could cut the tension with a knife! Michael Shanks is pure magic and nothing less. This was a gorgeous moment.
syncreticJasmeen 4 years ago 5
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Holylight88 4 years ago
Aincents are such cowards:( they leave us to fight the Ori alone after they made humanity...they killed Earth,those bastards
Dalbert342 4 years ago
the ancients help the people of eart, but in little ways, which is very useful. for example they help find a way to beat the Ori and the Wraith.
dragon5114 4 years ago
Actually it was Merlin and Morgan who helped, the others like Ohma didn;t help w/ the Ori. As always, the other just sit by and watch those who walke the thin line. Not to try and shoot you down though, but i do agree with Daniel and Dalbert342, the ancients need to act.
S0car08 4 years ago
Ohma is locked in battle against Anubus for eternity, so she's kinda busy to be helping anyone else.
TrainsitFan 4 years ago
i kno, thats y i said she wasnt doing nething anubis sucks, but if the other ancients help her, it wouldnt be an everlasting battle
S0car08 4 years ago
@dragon5114 Because the pple of the Tau'ri(Earth) are somehow the descendants of the Ancients...their own great great great grandchildren.....their 2nd evolution..... that's why they're willing to help...in little ways....
isal3 1 year ago 2
Ooooh....such depth and tension! I love Daniel's speeches, and Michael Shanks delivers them perfectly everytime! :D
SueJackson0 5 years ago 2
I LOVE THIS SPEECH!!!! Daniel is my FAVORITE character in the show and I think this is one of his best moments!
HealingAlchemist 5 years ago 3
Great speech
Navimaster 5 years ago