Palmarian Church Montage

[JairPeltier]

Adding a new spin to "The Blind leading the Blind!"

[nadiaranger]

Finally someone has put the truth out there about this false religion.

[systematicthqu]

I am an ex-Palmarian from the United Sates. This place is a bunch of lies or demonic. It has destroyed my mother, and the worst thing is she thinks if she sees us she will go to Hell. Palmar isn't about Jesus or the Catholic Church. If it was the love of Christ and charity would live in it. Oh, and to the maker of this, in the United States there are less than 100 Palmarians left.

[CarlosBarrera393]

@peregrinus8 None to be exact.

[TheRameel]

What the hell?!

[peregrinus8]

I think this video is pathetic and blasphemous. I've been to Palmar de Troya and it is an exceptionally holy and wonderful place. You are on the road to Hell. And it is a shame because you used to be a Palmarian. "Corruptio optimi pessima." (The corrution of the best is the worst.)

[CarlosBarrera393]

@peregrinus8

"Corruptio optimi pessima."

Your right. It's sad that Palmar corrupted the true Church.

[peregrinus8]

@CarlosBarrera393 Ah Carlos...how many pedophile priests has your local bishop covered up?

[CarlosBarrera393]

@peregrinus8

None actually. How about your Pope Peter?

[yardgoods]

Why???

[the89boi]

how can a person "say " mass when they are blind i am sure it goes against 1917 version of the code of canon law

[FolkMusicFanatic]

The anti-pope has a funny face when he preaches almost as if he is posessed by Satan himself lol. But I rest my case he probably was.

[Jonto72]

@FolkMusicFanatic His funny face was probably the result of him having no eyes. Gregory XVII lost both eyes in a car crash in 1976. The strange expression he has is a result of having two glass eyes fitted.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 God bless him, for even though he was physically blinded, he was able to see the whole truth of Almighty God.

[artvandelay107]

@FolkMusicFanatic He was not the anti-Pope, he was the true Pope of the Church of Christ! The true successor of Saint Peter! The true leader of the Catholic Church! And he was blind! So shut your mouth!

[artvandelay107]

The ways the Palmarian Pope blesses people and does the sign of the cross on himself are interesting. R.I.P. Pope Gregory XVII and may our present Holy Father, Pope Peter II, lead us towards life ever-lasting. Amen.

PS - The Palmarian Church is the true Church of God and is a beautiful thing. All the rumors are false and the Holy Church just wants to bring people to God through His son, Jesus Christ and His mother, Mary. Please stop persecuting my Church. We do not persecute the Roman Church.

[Jonto72]

@artvandelay107 Both Gregory XVII and Peter II have scorned the Roman Catholic Church, so don't whinge like some drama queen. More to the point, the Palmarian Church teaches that internet usage is a sin so you can't be that great a member.

There is no such thing as a true church of God. All churches are human inventions to which God is not limited.

Do yourself a favour, live a little.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 Blasphemy! You will burn in Hell unless you repent and turn to the true church which Christ Himslef established!

[Jonto72]

@artvandelay107 I don't believe you're a Palmarian priest at all. For a start they don't have priests, only bishops.

Furthermore there is no true church. Gregory XVII was nothing more than sexual predator of men and women. He was a pervert, charlatan and destroyed families.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 Well then, you do not know anything about us then. It is possible for us to have priests and I am one of them. there are only a few of us, but we exist and are given special missions. Each priest that does exist in obidience to the Palmarian church is under the guidance of a particular bishop and is given specific orders.

[Jonto72]

@artvandelay107 I don't believe you.

I've been on the Palmarian mailing list for 19 years, I receive all the documents direct from Seville. What you say doesn't tie in with the Palmarian Church.

You're a fantasist.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 But you're not in our inner circle, so you'll never know.

[Jonto72]

@artvandelay107 Thank God I'm not in your weirdo inner circle of freaks. If I was I'd have a very sore arse, wouldn't I? Pervs.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 Nothing but pointless blasphemy against Church of Christ and His mother, Mary.

[Jonto72]

@artvandelay107 You obviously don't know the meaning of the word blasphemy. Hardly surprising.

Gregory XVII openly admitted his sexual misdeeds.  If you're truly a member, you will know this.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 Every man is a sinner, even you and I. Whether we repent is up to us.

[Jonto72]

@artvandelay107 Yes so that makes it OK? Your 'pope', shagging loads of his nuns and buggering loads of his bishops? Not to mention destroying families, fleecing people of their life-savings, money-laundering, trafficking. Need I go on?

Most of the money-laundering was done by his gay lover Manuel Alonso Corral, now Peter II.

What a wonderful 'church' you belong to.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 And there are countless other churches, religions and governments with skeletons in their closets as well, but people can repent. The Catholic Church and Baptist Convention have problems of their own regarding child abuse, and so do many other churches.

[Jonto72]

@artvandelay107 Yes but they're not describing themselves as "the sweet Christ on earth" like Gregory XVII did. The man was a monster.

The fact you have made no attempt to deny or play down the many crimes he committed speaks volumes.

I get the impression you know what terrible organisation you joined and now feel hopeless. Let me tell you, it's very simple. Leave and walk away from it. It's never too late.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 This is my faith and with it I will die.

[Jonto72]

@artvandelay107 Just make sure you lot use condoms.

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 What?

[artvandelay107]

@Jonto72 Internet usage is not a sin, it's just prohibited for the weak spirited. I on the other hand am not weak. The truth is, I am a Palmarian priest and I've been able to infiltrate the Roman Church and live among them. I've already turned quite a few to the true chuch, the Palmarian Church.

[JANELLA911]

WHAT THE HELL!!

[NobamaLivonia]

Heretics

[1995patriota]

filmiku and everything that everyone on whom the pope is the anti do not let small children watch because I like my little sister who is now 5 years and before that was 4 she was afraid to sleep after this film was very frightened

[0masakra0]

Only traditional Catholicism can save us. Post Vaticanum II Church is full of protestant heresies plus tons of pseu Catholic heresies such as Palmarian "Church", the end times shall come.

[n124491738]

Pope Benedict 16 is compelled to joun the Hitler Youth WHEN his youth

BUT!

He does not Nazi!

[NoShame86]

"The pope? How many divisions do he got?"

[TheClovis2]

The man is still dead.If you consider this a dangerous cult then notify the police. Live and let live.

[Glennishking]

These people take the Whack-Job prize of the Century, hands down. How did you manage to escape this cult...and who makes their vestments? That tiara! They're diabolical but their costumes are splendid.

[TheClovis2]

They can't be anymore diabolical than the Vatican Church authorities. Have you checked those people out?Have you researched those people?Do you know their history?Don't forget this video was made by people who are sworn enemies of this Church. And "GREGORYXII" has been dead for several years. Doesn't the current Pope of Rome have a history with the Hitler Youth?

[Palmy543231]

This is a splinter group of the very same Vatican Church you speak of, and they approve & embrace all of its bloody history. Gregory XVII may be dead, however there is another in charge and worse to take the seat next. We may be "sworn enemies" as you put it, but we are also ex-members and know how dangerous this group is. Nothing like a bit of inside info to spur you into action. What would you suggest? Take a backseat?

[purpleman4]

Who is that at 1:38?

[romankatholic]

Please provide more footage of the Palmarian church sans the pretentious MTV-style fast cuts, rock music and other swishy effects.

Also, it would be interesting to hear your story. How does a 26-year-old from Ireland become involved in this church?

[angryDAnerd]

Agreed. The association of the Church with the JFK assasination and other unrelated matters only serves to undermine the credibility of the video, and makes it more difficult to determine the validity of the threat posed by the Palmarian Church.

More objective evidence plox.

[praisethelord333]

no one needs palmarian church!

[Palmy543231]

I was born into it.

[dannyboythegreat]

Why does it show a picture of St. Pio? Was he evil? I should hope not.

[peringo2]

There's a Spanish song by Siniestro Total (one of Spain's premier pop/punk bands) called "I left my hear in el Palmar de Troya" which would have been just PERFECT for the video. Their influence and power, nowadays is so small that mockery like that serves better than comparing them to Stalin (yeah, they would outperform him if given enough power, but that's not happening). If anything, I would save the most rabid attacks for THE premier sect with HUGE influence: Opus Dei.

[nichi1958]

Your videos are very interesting......you are a genious....bye!!!!

[jhonnydejesus]

da poco ho potuto vedere i tuoi videi, mi piacerebbe sapere se ne puoi aggiungere ancora di piu e se ne ha di quelli piu recente della chiessa palmariana

[p25tribe]

Clemente was an´extraordinary character and in many ways could be compared to other outrageous tyrants such as Hitler, Stalin, etc. And if he had had the power and the sufficient followers and fundings, we would have long seen a WW3 and executions would be a daily thing on a world wide scale. THATS NO JOKE. His predecessor Peter II is no less ruthless than he was. How can such a sect be "legal" in Spain, a democratic and european community country?

[IustitiaPax]

I think it is exaggerated to compare these Sect leaders, ill-guided and led astray by their own imaginations, with mass-murderers like Stalin. This sect does not execute or murder its opponent of course. How much I oppose false apparitions and false claims to ordinary jurisdiction in the Roman Catholic Church, but I do not think we are allowed to demonize the Palmarian cult/sect to thát extent. That would be too unfair.

[Palmy543231]

Unfair to the Plamrian Leaders? Take a moment to consider the lives they have destroyed & then re-evaluate the idea of being unfair in comparing them to others of the same ilk.

[IustitiaPax]

I said it was unfair to historical objectivity. I agree with you that the Palmarian leaders destroyed many lives with their illusions and sectarian lust for power.

[biloxiRon]

See, I found you!!! Same old Shi- as you always put on!!!

[Redxxt]

IustitiaPax what an unpleasant suprise to see you lurking about causing trouble. can't leave people alone to rant can you?

[IustitiaPax]

Causing trouble? What did I do to you? Anyway, I think the Palmarian sect was a sad organization which is gravely erring, but demonization goes a bit too far, I think. People who joined, joined themselves, not under pressure mostly.

[Redxxt]

See the videos on the SSPX and thier priests we had a few words. these people are in need of prayers and total rehabilitation into the one true faith. And serious therepy. sad very sad.

[IustitiaPax]

I agree they need therapy. The Palmarian sect is infected with homosexuality psychoneurosis and with psychological power complexes. But I fear the victims who left the sect are also in danger of falling into full-fledged secularism and immorality, disillusioned with the Catholic Traditions hijacked by the Palmarian sects. I do not think e.g. rock music is a good thing in this respect, especially not the vile and impure words against Our Saviour in the first clip part.

[p25tribe]

Clemente was an´extraordinary character and in many ways could be compared to other outrageous tyrants such as Hitler, Stalin, etc. And if he had had the power and the sufficient followers and fundings, we would have long seen a WW3 and executions would be a daily thing on a world wide scale. THATS NO JOKE. His predecessor Peter II is no less ruthless than he was. How can such a sect be "legal" in Spain, a democratic and european community country?

[IustitiaPax]

Please provide more videos on this topic, without the weird insertions and without the weird music. Please give a nice classical tone, or some personal calm and objective comment on this cult.

[Palmy543231]

But thank you for your comments.

[IustitiaPax]

You would have done a better job by merely providing videos from the Palmarian sect. But now you inserted angry music (typically frustrated), Satanist music video clips, obscenity, secular world news etc. Hardly an objective documentary on this weird apparitionist ex-Catholic sect.

[Palmy543231]

Hi IustitiaPax,

The song is not an angry one, it has more of an observational tone on why people are attracted to Cult Leaders, Church Leaders, physical people within a faith that they can identify with and reach out to.

[Palmy543231]

The second part of you critique - I did the video as I view the Cult, the images are all related and follow a thread, it is a form of expression on my part. I don't consider any of the clips to be Satanic, as I don't believe any to be holy - the world events (armies, bombs etc etc) represent Man replacing faith; this in turn leads back to the subject matter of the song.

Its all interlinked and has meaning; if you view it in the right way.

[IustitiaPax]

Okay, I agree, but I would have liked this video more if it had been less dynamic-confusing and more documentary-objective.