That's right Bob, let that faggit call you, not the Pacquaio camp running to ffloyda and vouching for the fight. If Gayweather wants to prove us wrong that he only got that unbeaten record against washed up, non-caliber or over the hill opponents, then let that blabber-mouthed chicken to call out on Manny and go to Arum for arrangements. 35% of the pot will suffice the gayweather camp. ye ye 35-65 split in favor of manny will do
its obvious paniczkova is just another anti-pacman boxing fan... he's just pissed off from the fact that manny won the fight against cotto. im pretty sure paniczkova thought cotto would win, like how cotto himself thought about the fight. but then came the fight outcome. he must be so pissed off that all he said before the fight was all just bulls**t.. while manny just said "may the best man win.." and came out being victorious.
do you realize when he fought dela hoya. He was already washed up and also Mayweather was at the top. So 60-40 would be a unbias choice in regards to money.
Mayweather DIDNT fight mosley.
I dont understand why everyone still dont think pacquiao cant beat up mayweather. Do you realize the last 4 fights he had at welterweight/featherweight, he either knocked them out or made them quit. Mayweather didnt do that with Dela Hoya. He knows he WILL pussy out against Cotto.
Who did Floyd beat anyway?A decision over D Hoya that could have gone either way.A decision over Moseley.A fight with Hatton that almost lasted the distance.And a welterwerweight non-KO decision win over the lightweight Marquez..
Neurologists and evolutionary psychologists say that HATE and ANGER are the most dangerous emotions because they are instinctual. You feel right when you are angry.I respect skeptics and those with educated opinions but HATERS are the ones who should get out of here.
Panic, I'm pretty sure u and d self-ordained experts (inc Mayweather Sr.) said pretty much the same thing b4 d DLHoya fight.U then repeated d same tune b4 d Hatton fight.Then you can not be less certain about it before the Cotto fight.Sorry but u will eat those words again after the Mayweather fight.
i just dont understand these people that think mayweather is in the TOP 10 greatest boxers of all time? Are you serious. He cant even be in the top 20. If youre talking about greatness. You talk about Ali, Hagler, Armstrong. People that fought and beat the greatest in their era. Not ducking around saying oh i wont fight him because i want it 60-40. This fight generated 2x-3x more than the mayweather fight. You really think money matters? Lol i think he just has another reason to pussy out.
Cause all i read here are a bunch of bullshit excuses. You talk about greatness, pacquiao is in this discussion. You talk about someone going up in every weight division from 104 to145? Tell me anyone that has ever done that.
Why are you dumming down Cotto after the margarito fight? After what manny did to him last night you know those wraps on his hands didnt do shit but beat him up. He was great against Cottley. He beat up Mosley.
give it up, pacman haters! pacman will fight ANYONE at 145-147. though i dont think arum really meant pacman is better than ali. he just exaggerated. pacman is at least in that group of the best or a top 5 fighter in boxing history. but i can say that he is the most entertaining to watch or like the rock would say, the most electrifying man in sports!
well i guess some people like more fighters than others so everyone has there list. you get floyd nuthuggers, pactards, you name it. but generally after the hype is finished when fighter is retired you can only then analyze a fighter what he has actually achieved and some boxers achievment like robinson/ali its fading away and people start to think fighters like floyd/pacman are better, when in actual fact they are no where near the level of Robinson's achievement.
hs top 5 dead or alive...for one reason...7 titles in 7 different divisions and he didnt fight NOBODIES like the old school fighters records.....point blank
how come everyone pac fights is shot. hatton was undisputed at 140 coming off a dominating win over malignaggi. Cotto is at worst the third best welterweight in the world and rated in most peoples lb 4 lb list. The shot excuse is getting old
you are now a Certified Hater!! why do you speak of things you do not know? did you really say cotto was forced to come at 145? i think you need to go back and do some research before the contract was singed dumbass and FYI most of cotto's fight in his career was at 140 pounds, i bet you didn't even know that
no cotto's last fight was at 146 lbs and when he weigh in on pacquiao fight he weighed 145 1/2 lbs that's why you see roach and santiago arguing during the weigh in it was close to 146lbs, why are you even trying to make a point that you have no knowledge of? and now you say who the hell is manny? he just made HISTORY IN BOXING!! find another combat sport to talk about man boxing ain't for you. one more thing PBF had to wait 1 DAY to sign the contract to fight pacquiao but he chose jmm. pussy!
hey ,floyd fucking offered to fight manny before the marquez fight was made and offered manny a 65-35 split against but arum wouldn't even negotiate the fight cos he was already willing to fix manny's next fight against a shot cotto and keep all the money in the house......i'm sure u know this u biased degenerate son of a bitch!
doesn't matter who offered what, the point is mayweather had to wait one day to make pacquiaoVSfloyd happen which was after the hatton fight since he announced his comeback on the same day of the fight. i think 60/40 was agreed on.
It will be a tough fight for both guys - both are clearly the best 2 in the world at this stage. It's just some of the OTT hype surrounding the pacman makes me sick. He gets beaten by marquez but gets a gift, then takes out two past it fighters - one who can no longer take a punch, the other who can no longer throw one
the only two Great wins in Mannys career were against Barrera 1 and Cotto. Two great wins and suddenly he's better than guys like Ray Leonard?
sonia808,don't even go there cos floyd will school manny and make him miss all night long ok...now arum and bum roach will do their best not to let manny fight floyd by saying floyd always wants all the money ,but y not?if he could fight oscar and get a 60-40 split then who the hell is manny?
We need all your inputs to come up with excuses why our fighter lost to Pacquiao. I don't care if its the lamest excuse in the book, as long as it hasn't been used by PacMan's previous opponents.
Here are some contributions so far but we need more inputs.
Cotto was bald (don't know but sounds good)
Cotto was wearing tatoos which served as a bulls eye mark for manny
Manny was allegedly using a third arm that comes from nowhere during a close exchange of blows,
Wow. Bob Arum made some of the most bold statements I've ever heard anyone make. Period. I'd have trouble saying that Pacquiao is greater than Leonard, Ali, Hagler, etc. But, I do believe that he belongs on that list.
i think he is! all those where runners like mayweather but manny is a brawler those people have short careers and pacquioa just keeps getting better if he beats mosley and mayweather i think he is the best of all time!
just answer this question,do u think manny has even the slightest of chances with no defence,combination hail mary punches,wide punches,leaping and hopping and off balance whenever he throws a punch against floyd?i'm not biased towards floyd,but manny makes a mistake whenever he throws punches and putting him in there with floyd will be like zab vs floyd 2..
yes cause he is not only fast but his punching power surpasses mayweathers! i usted doubt manny but with this win he will destroy mayweathers shoulder roll as u can see zab vs floyd , zab gave floyd problems then zab stop throwing punchez then floyd dominated the fight but pacman is not zab and his punches fly from different angles!
cotto forgot to thank manny!
"thank you manny for busting his eye for me, since i couldve never have done it myself"
cotto seriously wishes all his opponents were previously injured lol
sadly we will never see a real rematch between them ,with margarito eye permanently damaged and pussy cotto would just go straight for it again!
NUTTYxTOWN 1 month ago
That's right Bob, let that faggit call you, not the Pacquaio camp running to ffloyda and vouching for the fight. If Gayweather wants to prove us wrong that he only got that unbeaten record against washed up, non-caliber or over the hill opponents, then let that blabber-mouthed chicken to call out on Manny and go to Arum for arrangements. 35% of the pot will suffice the gayweather camp. ye ye 35-65 split in favor of manny will do
tyke71 2 years ago 2
its obvious paniczkova is just another anti-pacman boxing fan... he's just pissed off from the fact that manny won the fight against cotto. im pretty sure paniczkova thought cotto would win, like how cotto himself thought about the fight. but then came the fight outcome. he must be so pissed off that all he said before the fight was all just bulls**t.. while manny just said "may the best man win.." and came out being victorious.
roysem 2 years ago
do you realize when he fought dela hoya. He was already washed up and also Mayweather was at the top. So 60-40 would be a unbias choice in regards to money.
Mayweather DIDNT fight mosley.
I dont understand why everyone still dont think pacquiao cant beat up mayweather. Do you realize the last 4 fights he had at welterweight/featherweight, he either knocked them out or made them quit. Mayweather didnt do that with Dela Hoya. He knows he WILL pussy out against Cotto.
faiithe 2 years ago
Jedi Master--Freddie Roach
The Best Jedi/Ninja fighter--Pacquiao!
George007Kelley 2 years ago 2
Who did Floyd beat anyway?A decision over D Hoya that could have gone either way.A decision over Moseley.A fight with Hatton that almost lasted the distance.And a welterwerweight non-KO decision win over the lightweight Marquez..
Neurologists and evolutionary psychologists say that HATE and ANGER are the most dangerous emotions because they are instinctual. You feel right when you are angry.I respect skeptics and those with educated opinions but HATERS are the ones who should get out of here.
mxyzptlk0072001 2 years ago
Get your facts straight. Floyd never fought Mosley and got a decision over him,
kamalimd 2 years ago
I stand corrected Sir. It was Cotto who fought Mosley.
mxyzptlk0072001 2 years ago
Panic, I'm pretty sure u and d self-ordained experts (inc Mayweather Sr.) said pretty much the same thing b4 d DLHoya fight.U then repeated d same tune b4 d Hatton fight.Then you can not be less certain about it before the Cotto fight.Sorry but u will eat those words again after the Mayweather fight.
mxyzptlk0072001 2 years ago
i just dont understand these people that think mayweather is in the TOP 10 greatest boxers of all time? Are you serious. He cant even be in the top 20. If youre talking about greatness. You talk about Ali, Hagler, Armstrong. People that fought and beat the greatest in their era. Not ducking around saying oh i wont fight him because i want it 60-40. This fight generated 2x-3x more than the mayweather fight. You really think money matters? Lol i think he just has another reason to pussy out.
faiithe 2 years ago
i agree, and add pacman onto that list
02bash 2 years ago
@ 2strong2cool
you must be a pussy right?
Cause all i read here are a bunch of bullshit excuses. You talk about greatness, pacquiao is in this discussion. You talk about someone going up in every weight division from 104 to145? Tell me anyone that has ever done that.
Why are you dumming down Cotto after the margarito fight? After what manny did to him last night you know those wraps on his hands didnt do shit but beat him up. He was great against Cottley. He beat up Mosley.
faiithe 2 years ago
well floyd a 106 fighter at 16 yrs old!do ur research.
paniczkova 2 years ago
give it up, pacman haters! pacman will fight ANYONE at 145-147. though i dont think arum really meant pacman is better than ali. he just exaggerated. pacman is at least in that group of the best or a top 5 fighter in boxing history. but i can say that he is the most entertaining to watch or like the rock would say, the most electrifying man in sports!
ogie86 2 years ago
manny is in the top 15 yes, but top 5 you must be kidding me, if pacman beats floyd then pacman enters the top 10, but hell no is he in the top 5.
02bash 2 years ago
anti-pacman?
ogie86 2 years ago
hmm if i was a anti-pacman i wouldnt put him in the top 15 would i
02bash 2 years ago
nah.. even IF you're anti, you'd still put him in your top 15 list or else your list wouldnt make sense at all if you excluded him..
ogie86 2 years ago
well i guess some people like more fighters than others so everyone has there list. you get floyd nuthuggers, pactards, you name it. but generally after the hype is finished when fighter is retired you can only then analyze a fighter what he has actually achieved and some boxers achievment like robinson/ali its fading away and people start to think fighters like floyd/pacman are better, when in actual fact they are no where near the level of Robinson's achievement.
02bash 2 years ago
hs top 5 dead or alive...for one reason...7 titles in 7 different divisions and he didnt fight NOBODIES like the old school fighters records.....point blank
DatKrack 2 years ago 2
how come everyone pac fights is shot. hatton was undisputed at 140 coming off a dominating win over malignaggi. Cotto is at worst the third best welterweight in the world and rated in most peoples lb 4 lb list. The shot excuse is getting old
yoacheckit 2 years ago
cotto is shot bruv full stop!
paniczkova 2 years ago
Let's breakdown Arum's "GOAT"
1. Only fight at lightweight - bum Diaz
2. Only fight at LWW - ultra shot Hatton - who was prior nearly stopped by light punching bum Lazcano
3. Oscar - no comment necessary
5. Beat up on shot versions of Morales and Barrera
6. Lost twice to the only other prime ATG he's ever fought in Marquez
7. Margo ruined Cotto, again Manny comes along and takes the leftovers
8. Despite this they still force Cotto to come in at 145
Get a fucking grip Arum you minge
2strong2cool 2 years ago
The exact same thing can be said about Mayweather...
TrioUnionRecords 2 years ago
you are now a Certified Hater!! why do you speak of things you do not know? did you really say cotto was forced to come at 145? i think you need to go back and do some research before the contract was singed dumbass and FYI most of cotto's fight in his career was at 140 pounds, i bet you didn't even know that
The1punch 2 years ago
cotto wasnt weight drained or anything he came in at 146 for the clottey fight so loosing extra pound isnt going to be tough.
02bash 2 years ago
well his last two fights were at 147lbs and losing 2lbs makes a hell of a difference!
paniczkova 2 years ago
no cotto's last fight was at 146 lbs and when he weigh in on pacquiao fight he weighed 145 1/2 lbs that's why you see roach and santiago arguing during the weigh in it was close to 146lbs, why are you even trying to make a point that you have no knowledge of? and now you say who the hell is manny? he just made HISTORY IN BOXING!! find another combat sport to talk about man boxing ain't for you. one more thing PBF had to wait 1 DAY to sign the contract to fight pacquiao but he chose jmm. pussy!
The1punch 2 years ago
hey ,floyd fucking offered to fight manny before the marquez fight was made and offered manny a 65-35 split against but arum wouldn't even negotiate the fight cos he was already willing to fix manny's next fight against a shot cotto and keep all the money in the house......i'm sure u know this u biased degenerate son of a bitch!
paniczkova 2 years ago
doesn't matter who offered what, the point is mayweather had to wait one day to make pacquiaoVSfloyd happen which was after the hatton fight since he announced his comeback on the same day of the fight. i think 60/40 was agreed on.
The1punch 2 years ago
@the1punch,trust me arum didn't even wanna seat down wiith al hayman and leo ellerbie to discuss dat fight so nothing was agreed on!
paniczkova 2 years ago
@2strong2cool,u have just said it all man!i just can't wait to see mayweather school pacman mate,really can't..
paniczkova 2 years ago
It will be a tough fight for both guys - both are clearly the best 2 in the world at this stage. It's just some of the OTT hype surrounding the pacman makes me sick. He gets beaten by marquez but gets a gift, then takes out two past it fighters - one who can no longer take a punch, the other who can no longer throw one
the only two Great wins in Mannys career were against Barrera 1 and Cotto. Two great wins and suddenly he's better than guys like Ray Leonard?
Get the Fuck outta here
2strong2cool 2 years ago
pacman is a ATG, but saying he is better than Ali common seriously folks.
02bash 2 years ago
Pacquiao is absolutely better than ali even arum said it.
evks82 2 years ago
lol of course he would to , get the most revenue possible out of pacman, only a idiot would say pacman is better than ali, or sugar ray robinson.
arum is just a business man, and just wants the most money nothing else.
02bash 2 years ago
Nah all you are being bias Pacquiao is greater than ali or leonard because he has 7 belts. Pacquiao is up there with Robinson and Armstrong.
evks82 2 years ago 2
Another whinner's comment, tsk tsk tsk. hater!
bubuynaga 2 years ago
i honestly don't think manny would have beating a pre- magarito cotto!cotto should retire,he is a shot fighter period......
paniczkova 2 years ago
Shut up.
lolspud 2 years ago
mayweather bring it on!!
sonia808 2 years ago
sonia808,don't even go there cos floyd will school manny and make him miss all night long ok...now arum and bum roach will do their best not to let manny fight floyd by saying floyd always wants all the money ,but y not?if he could fight oscar and get a 60-40 split then who the hell is manny?
paniczkova 2 years ago
paniczkova what are you talking about don't even go there...? i did! you replied to my comment remember?
sonia808 2 years ago
pacman is truely one the greats of this era.
zloc2dabrain 2 years ago
the pac does it again damn hes good made cotto look bad
gio9723 2 years ago
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To all my fellow Cotto fans:
We need all your inputs to come up with excuses why our fighter lost to Pacquiao. I don't care if its the lamest excuse in the book, as long as it hasn't been used by PacMan's previous opponents.
Here are some contributions so far but we need more inputs.
Cotto was bald (don't know but sounds good)
Cotto was wearing tatoos which served as a bulls eye mark for manny
Manny was allegedly using a third arm that comes from nowhere during a close exchange of blows,
olopasaden 2 years ago
WHA! EXCUSE ME!
damn ge called out void on the weight issue!jajajajajaaja. mr boat buyer is such a pussy.
xandaman23 2 years ago
Wow. Bob Arum made some of the most bold statements I've ever heard anyone make. Period. I'd have trouble saying that Pacquiao is greater than Leonard, Ali, Hagler, etc. But, I do believe that he belongs on that list.
soulinthewall77 2 years ago
@soulinthewall77
Interesting.
Care to explain why hes not greater than, lets start off with steroid Leonard.
fildeps 2 years ago
i think he is! all those where runners like mayweather but manny is a brawler those people have short careers and pacquioa just keeps getting better if he beats mosley and mayweather i think he is the best of all time!
beto4rmtheghetto 2 years ago
just answer this question,do u think manny has even the slightest of chances with no defence,combination hail mary punches,wide punches,leaping and hopping and off balance whenever he throws a punch against floyd?i'm not biased towards floyd,but manny makes a mistake whenever he throws punches and putting him in there with floyd will be like zab vs floyd 2..
paniczkova 2 years ago
pacquiao throwing wide punches??? you have got to be kidding me!! look at mosely that is the guy who throw wide punches.
YBlnx 2 years ago
yes cause he is not only fast but his punching power surpasses mayweathers! i usted doubt manny but with this win he will destroy mayweathers shoulder roll as u can see zab vs floyd , zab gave floyd problems then zab stop throwing punchez then floyd dominated the fight but pacman is not zab and his punches fly from different angles!
beto4rmtheghetto 2 years ago
he's a promoter.. of course he's going to over hype...
natebelike 2 years ago