Subversive Use Of Occult Symbolism in the Media Pt 1

[Amrekaten]

these people are comedians

[striveinfinite]

The Canaan ancestors you talk about only have a 6000 year history. This is derived from the Sons of Canaan. The Lepers who performed bestiality in the caves with jackals in the Caucasus mountains. These are facts, Hansen disease is a modern term for Leprosy. The Satanism is demonic symbolism you see today come from these different tribes of Canaan. From The Evil White Magic of Druidism to the White Blinding light of religion. The Nicean Council were the same evil authors of the Bible. Research!

[striveinfinite]

You are not dealing with facts, People please don't believe people and what they say. You should back everything you say on facts such as references, dates, science not just what you know or feel. The world is in a state of chaos right now because they have been believing what someone says versus getting the facts. The Torah did not come from the Tarot. It is a religous book derived from Egyptian mysteries. The 613 commandments came from the book "Coming forth by day"

[diewahrheitistnochda]

Mike is a liar!!! A cheap liar! He is a follower of the same people who will bring you the Anti-christ!

watch?v=LeIVz9lCZqQ&feature=pl­ayer_embedded

[2psah]

@diewahrheitistnochda So you watch 1 debunk video and directly Mike is a liar? you are easily infuenced my friend! I bet you haven't done your own research like 95 % of the people on youtube! You think you have knowledge by watching youtube videos!

[diewahrheitistnochda]

@2psah I vid is enough! its like watching a video on 9/11 and thats enough also to know that it was an inside-job. Why are you acting like a fool, running after this guy? Just take a look at him, how he deals with people who expose him! And afterward this hypocrite is talking about "positive energy"? He mixes truth with dog-shit, dont you understand? And you are eating everything from him because he has "knowledge"? Dont do that please! He is promoting satanism and the occult (H.P.B,A.C etc.)!

[buddaxX520Xx]

if people believe aliens created them they will be worshipped. That's exactly what happened. But that doesn't mean we have to worship them, do WE demand worship from the beings we genetically experiment with, we have our own reasons for doing so, and just because we can doesnt mean there is no God. just heiriarchies, but your body is constructed so, cells, tissues, organs, to ''you'' the organism, why would the spritual body of God not be structured the same.. is it not possible at all?

[CollabGiants]

this is one of the fake guys out there

[buddaxX520Xx]

@CollabGiants explain.

[CollabGiants]

@buddaxX520Xx he defening aleister crowley and "world culture" which is part of the new world order, he's a freemason and generational occultist, his double talk about angels good but yet behind blood shed. on my own personal issue is that he talks about aliens creating man but when u look they dig up these bodies of humans that are huge, in eygpt you have one of the statues having six toes on it similar to these skelteon remains, even native american culture has beings with 6 firngers

[CollabGiants]

@buddaxX520Xx these beings are nothing more than fallen angles and people creating a hybrid, you have alien abductions taking peoples sperm and eggs. its just gensis 6. angles of light thats all ufos and or the design the nazi's created in ww2. the world elite have been working hard since the fallen of man taking from babylon and spreading their worship to other countries and the vatican with their babylon gods

[buddaxX520Xx]

@CollabGiants angels/demons? need human sperm? you do realize we play around with genetics, so i assume being of the metaphysical reality, angels and demons would not use genetic manipulation, this sounds like something more of a carnal/scientific endeavor. Would it be wrong to assume their just may be beings like US and not like THEM. Not that i don't believe in angels and demons but i believe in one reality. So both phenomenons are part of one reality, im only interested in the truth. whtuthnk

[CollabGiants]

@buddaxX520Xx i think the spirtiual world comes into the physical world, both in phycial form we can see and invisible like a spirit of depression, and lonelyness and etc. im just saying if people belive that aliens created them then these angels will be worshiped, the angles that the occult and others worship

[buddaxX520Xx]

@CollabGiants no doubt the invisible world of spirits exists, but as far as chemical matter is concerned, you suppose that extradimensional entities would have some kind of need for manipulation of physical matter, even though they are free of any bonds or ties to physical reality as we percieve it in it's dense nature. Would the only purpose on this be to deceive human kind into "believing" we were genetically created by physical beings, when we live in a reality where that IS a possibility??

[CollabGiants]

@CollabGiants your talking about i don't remeber the name its called dimention reality or something, im just saying even though the spirits can change form god is the one that can create life from nothing angels can create life from what is already on earth from what i figure, in enoch the angels work with animal gentics and stuff, an explainion for me where dinasaurs came from and are no longer with us, there is no evolution skeleton of inbetween animals making the science faulty

[oxymoron661]

Haha, Conspiracy Con? Really?

[kemetofold]

typical of shills like this guy is....give out info and make themselves look informed and smart but not giving people what is really going on, not giving the real truth that will help people to start waking up ...fuck him and jordan maxwell, alex jones, david icke and the rest of them

[gromby]

@kemetofold Would you care to share a resource that is not disinformation?

[suddenlyitsobvious]

Tsarion is so blatantly dishonest. Can't believe couldn't see it yet a few years ago.

Now just seeing his face is enough: snake.

ALL these guys are on the wrong side, ALL of them. And they pretty much all know each other. You'll see Tsarion appearing with Maxwell, Maxwell with Eustace Mullins -believe it or not- etc etc: a relatively small "fraternity" of perhaps 2 dozen men spearheading the "truth movement". All sold.

If it comes easy it's typically bad in this society...

[truthseeker1973]

@suddenlyitsobvious

I don't know if I would call it dishonesty as much as willingly ignorant. Most people aren't interested in truth, but rather what confirms their desire. Ironically it was Jesus that said most people would walk their own butts into hell, rejecting the only thing that will save them from it.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@truthseeker1973

"I don't know if I would call it dishonesty as much as willingly ignorant."

Since I was referring to Tsarion's dishonesty, I don't think your distinction applies at all. Many people are indeed willfully ignorant, and this must automatically involve some level of dishonesty: they lie AT LEAST TO THEMSELVES.

Tsarion however IS LYING TO OTHERS and making a career out of it.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@truthseeker1973

He is obviously aware of his lies and therefore dishonesty is a perfectly accurate term.

Of course, even professional liars will be "willingly ignorant" about some things, but taking it this far is basically ignoring what the verb "to lie" or what "dishonesty" even mean.

to lie/Webster:

"1: to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive

2: to create a false or misleading impression

dishonesty/Webster:

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@truthseeker1973

"1. : lack of honesty or integrity : disposition to defraud or deceive "

Tsarion is a dishonest liar.

[truthseeker1973]

@suddenlyitsobvious

He certainly could be flat out lying. I love that you put up the definition of lying. People don't realize how much of their everyday lives involve lies. I point out to them that any intent to leave an impression that isn't completely true is always a lie, no matter how slight. We've all grown to accept the little white lies as normal and acceptable. If one wanted to learn how to lie acceptably, they should take a marketing class.

[girlphriend]

@truthseeker1973 y i usually keep my mouth shut and listen lol i just ask questions

[truthseeker1973]

@girlphriend

That's the best advice I should take ;)

I worded that lame. It's any intent to mislead is a lie. So aside from the little white lies we tell each other every day, marketing of today is nothing but lies as well where there is much intent to mislead, and were all ok with it. I think it's because we're brainwashed into thinking that it's our duty to defend anything remotely linked to 'Capitalism', even though it's now a corporatocracy, or gangster capitalism.

[Andrzejbmw318]

a jest z polskimi napisami????

[Suprememessage]

My question is why do you retards listen to this fool?He only speaks some truth i mean he doesnt say the things that really matter he just generalizes these symbols that are used.Dont let him poison you,learn the real truth.

[gromby]

@Suprememessage How can one learn the real truth?

[Suprememessage]

@gromby One can learn the real truth, These symbols are not just used by men, but by other beings. Symbols can do much more, enlighten yourself

[TheKingDhill]

my question is Why is he wearing the double cross around his neck . It is also a pagan symbol.

[dodoshlodo]

this dude is pretty misleading... dont listen to him

[metagordian]

tarot, like the card? this is not my area of focus, but i'm fairly sure that tarot cards were invented in the 17th century.....

[EC66OK]

For someone who pretends so much "research" his statement about the "word" not being prior to the "image" is rubbish, and he must know it. Of course, Hebrew and Greek are not English, but he shows no interest or insight into what "Logos" actually means, ironically, defined for us by Greeks who studied the Mystery Schools in Egypt. So much for his "education."

[pilis83]

satanist

[990million]

blasphemy!

[rob0rat]

Tsarion has already been proven to be a liar. He takes Bible scriptures out of context, even omitting words and stringing them together to make it sound like something that supports his ideas. Don't believe any of these new agers including Icke, maxwell, tsarion etc. they all secretly love helena blavatsky and hate Christians

[HermeticPoet]

@rob0rat Spoken like a true Christian. Who wrote your Bible? GOD! Which GOD? The GOD of the Bible??? Cyclical logic! More like twisted logic...

[truthseeker1973]

@HermeticPoet

No! The same God that designed your lungs, and made the air with the oxygen your wasting every time you use them!!! haha j/k man.

[HermeticPoet]

@truthseeker1973 That still doesn't answer the question? You use a name like 'truthseeker' yet obviously avoid truth which does not fit your preconceived BELIEFS. And take a good look at that word, it has LIE in the middle of it!!

[truthseeker1973]

@HermeticPoet

If you don't want to believe in Jesus, then don't. Woops I used the word for you too. This guy says Icke is a new ager too.

watch?v=Cpus00lzzAo

Most people aren't interested in truth, but rather what confirms their desire. What are your desires?

[HermeticPoet]

@truthseeker1973 "The existence of Jesus was never in question, in fact if he never did exist, the closer you get to the flip from BC to AD there would be more of a problem" Where are you going with this? It doesn't answer anything either? As for Icke being a New Ager, You ain't read his work, ANY OF IT! Otherwise you couldn't call him that, you could call him many other things but a New Ager he certainly is not. So your showing your ignorant bias. You have not done your research, but claim to?

[truthseeker1973]

@HermeticPoet

My point was that it's really a no brainer IMO. BTW, if Tsarion or Icke beLIEve in the age of aquarius, then they are especially new agers.

[HermeticPoet]

@truthseeker1973 That makes no sense. Believe in ther age of aquarius? Why do you not? lol.. The age of aquarius is a demarcation of the zodiac. Its a fact not a belief. We are in the age of pisces, or don't you believe that either? Interesting, we're in the age of the fish, and our current GODMAN is a fisher of men!! hhmm... Adn you comment, this guy says Icke is a new ager too?? WTF? I knew you didn't do your own research, get your own mind buddy, cause the one you gave away is shit!!

[truthseeker1973]

@HermeticPoet

So your a new ager too then. Why the resistance to Icke and Mike being one as well? My own mind says you, Mike, and Icke are like the 3 stooges of the new age. The age of Aquarius is nothing more than Luciferianism started by your madam Blavatsky, who admits she's a luciferian. It's about attempting to usher in a Luciferian kingdom that mimics the Biblical Kingdom yet to come. Ironically it's what brings the true king back. Good luck with it.

[HermeticPoet]

@truthseeker1973 Ad hominem nonsense. I ain't a new ager, but then again you obviously can't spot one so I'm not surprised.. Blavatsky did NOT invent the age of aquarius, where do you get this shit??? Like I said, that just represents a demarcation on the zodiacal wheel. What ppl decide that will mean for us all is up to them. And be careful what you swallow there buddy. Cause you precious Christianity is nothing more than Light Worship at its core(Luciferianism). I don't follow any institution

[truthseeker1973]

@HermeticPoet

I think not Hermetic. I bet there are two things in this world you hold in high regard. Yourself, and sin. You probably have convinced yourself sin isn't sin by now I'm sure, and will use that to tell my I'm wrong (new age gospel?). You tell me then Herm, what is new age then, since we are obviously on completely different pages on what new age is.

[HermeticPoet]

@truthseeker1973 @truthseeker1973 Nonsense, at this point I've had enough of your ad hominem BS. You obviously can't engage in an intelligent dialogue. So I 'll say fairwell, and all the best with your beliefs. I do hope they work out for you, but please remember.. It is NOT your place to Judge others, and even your beliefs have as one of its basic tenets the teaching of Forgiveness??? "So let him who is without Sin cast the first stone.." !!!

[GreenEarBuds]

Perfect example of a bait and switch. Big lies first! If you get past the first lies about gods holy word he really turns on the poison. LIES>>>LIES>>>LIES!!!!!!

[divafabulista]

That's one of my wonders: with all these secrets beign exposed, are they being exposed from former cult followers, or from those who are still affiliated with these cults, giving us the "truth" as THEY wish it to be told???

[pabloezekiel]

he's wearing a double cross isn't that a Templar double cross...?

[Yoshies87]

@pabloezekiel. Yeah he is. I was wondering about it 2. They really are trying to confuse us. But we won't fall for it.

[Kitt0000]

Is he wearing a silver cross? Talk about symbolism.

[MonsieurBlaze]

He's not actually of any religion, he knocks all of it. He might have been a Christian though at one time, or he's wearing that to prove a point.

[Sion6]

@Kitt0000 It looks like a Cross of Lorraine, or a Triple-Bar Cross. Interesting.

[13SuperKings]

@Kitt0000 Do you think he is christian?

[Kitt0000]

@13SuperKings If buy that you mean the rosy or red christian then that's a possibility. He was mentored by intellectuals and would have most likely been exposed to "the clubs" simply because philosophy, weather positive or selfishly negative is a rather small group. Even just the people that make effort to read books is exceedingly rare.

[phloridababe]

pass this along to your family members!!! this man has a way of teaching truth without Fear. that is priceless. I love All!

[1madaboutguitar]

This guy is SERIOUSLY on the ball!

[imtweetydiva29]

Michael Tsarion is awesome. He is right words are misenterpreted not Symbols . Symbols can only be manipulated.We as individuals should learn about symbols that surround us evreyday and how the media advertising manipulates the symbols.

[bawbaganoo]

@TheEllusiva I was quoting that cunt who said crowley invented it. Obviousley crowley didnt invent the fukin tarot. Ill take ure retard comment as a misinterpretation as im in a good mood. I not hapy with the reply but i see it acyually loks like im ageeing with that gimp who sid it first so fair dos. Haha. im really baked right now. Peace my friend.

[josephgelb]

Mike is my hero

[FatherWarhol]

I knew at 4 minutes in he was an Irish anti-semite and gnostic occultist

[TheCozmikTruth]

@FatherWarhol yes he is indeed well put my dear friend nothing more then a esoteric new ager helping to usher the age of aquarius, from which the UN has adopted and endorsed in its own right........ these ppl will be exposed.....the same ppl exposing the NWO are the same ppl working for them...!

lord bless

[bawbaganoo]

haha the tarot was invented by crowley. Wot the fuk man??????????

Moron!

[onezero0011]

lol, I love the Conan reference.

[UCAGIB]

Wow he immediately throws the bible out huh? Well you just threw your solution out the window...Probably because in the next breath he states he uses tarot cards...Which were designed by alister crowley who sodomized and sacrificed little boys, and he teaches little kids?...Pretty sad he doesn't study his symbols enough...

[Blaquemajeek]

The tarot wasn't invinted by Alester Crowly. He only design a deck. There are many deck out there. I have several of them. None of which were desinged by him. Maybe you should pay attention instead of passing judgement so quickly.

[metalwizard13]

what is that symbol he wears across his neck?

[DamnedOne666]

look carefully he is a mason....

and tries to tell US (hmmmm U. S. ?)

that he is mason and teach us about mason symbols....

why ?

i don't know

if you don't believe me watch carefully his cross

and then watch part 5- 1:54 and what he is saying about

he's own cross that he is wearing on his neck.....

[alessandroiscool]

Robert Langon what's new? Get it?

[mike460460]

do Real Studying on the subject before you comment fools........

[aidonia21]

you jumped in with nonsense just to rove that you know more than the next man. you idiot you are doing what the elites in power want you to do to bicker amongst yourselves with pure technicality. this is what i see on youtube everyday. this is why i stopped commenting on these things. look in the mirror and tell me who is a fool. you mindless body. you will see the Er of your ways hahahahahahahahahahahaha Imbecile

[mike460460]

jumped in??? I've been studying the subject for 20 years, both private and collegiate. i "jumped in" so you would NOT be spouting off half-truths and internalized misconceptions....We could chat anytime you want...I'm here........oh, and btw, if you are going to try to attack someone else's viewpoint through negative commentary, at least spell your words correctly. I did not bicker, only corrected a misunderstanding, you I cannot say the same about. Not even a useful fact in your comments.

[aidonia21]

you corrected what lol, what you said i already know, and i do not spread misinformation. i too study history in a college atmosphere its my minor. so don't assume you know everything. thats the point i was trying to make, you say you are so knowledgeable that you sound like a fool. just like the rest of these mindless robots on youtube. i wouldn't trust anything i see on youtube without first checking the person's resources thats the point i was trying to make,

[aidonia21]

lets talk about negativity and pointless conversation such as spell checking and correcting irrelevant grammar in an online debate. i'm not an english major or teacher i could care less people on youtube need to talk about issues and stop spell checking someone you do not agree with just to belittle them. you are just like the rest sir, and i refuse to continue this conversation you can write me all you want i will not respond or read your message.

[mike460460]

hmmm....what is the root word of ignorance???

oh yeah. your going to what?

read back fool, I wrote originally to respond to your kind words. you set the tone with all the idiot, imbecile, and lolol etc.

and I know why you wouldn't respond...it must be as obvious to others as it is to me just what you DO know. IF you went and studied we wouldn't be having this debate.

(shoulda made it your major, bub, but I doubt you would have completed)

Have a GREAT day

[Muloc7253]

...jesus christ

[sarkenx]

Shut up, Troll.

[RachelStiffler]

no..i don't think he is becuas eif it's double that may strengthen it's power btu also in his eyes it may weaken it and maybe we're seeing it differently then he is..maybe it means something different to him liek you knwo how symbols get distorted...like the KKK hats used to be very religious but now you see them and think hate..

[NoLongerFooled]

Why is he wearing a double cross? Isn't he against that kind of stuff?

[mike460460]

it is the symbol used by the gnostics, a symbol of personal sacrafice not a representation of some higher power. go home and study, then you may speak...

[vaulkreth]

I find it interesting that many people have no problem questioning their government and politicians, but when it comes to questioning their precious religion they attack anyone who causes them to do so. Who do you think gave you these religions as they exist today? Do you really think that your holy scriptures and religious institutions are the only things that have gone untouched?

[jackhackett80]

people dont question it because they dont want to be put in a position where everything they ever thought they knew becomes a false.

[truthseeker1973]

Another great example of a lot of truth mixed in with just the right poison. This guy has a real objective behind all this information, the same objective you will find in Zeitgeist, a lot of truth mixed in with a little bit of poison to try to kill the only truth that REALLY matters. Classic method. Look at these lies I can prove, now look at these lies, that are lies too because my last ones were.

[TechArcturian]

Zeitgeist. I saw that film & was left confused? Like, they made out Jesus & bible is all made up. I believe in most of the 'conspiracy stuff' but the illuminati want us to believe, in the end, that Jesus was fake, etc. So i'm confused as what Zeitgeist was about & i'm not into religion but believe there has to be 'something' in the Bible yet i believe the Rockefellers etc are Luciferian. Any ideas?

[truthseeker1973]

Ya, if it is really truth you are after, you will find it. If you are after your own truth, then truth will always allude you.

[DaDazey]

There are a number of films around now (not least here on Youtube) that have that theme. The old Egyptians play a rather fundamental role within freemasonry, to equate that to the world's religions, and their foundations is quite something. Seems like revisionism the Masonic way.

So at that point, the anti-masonic theme starts to waver a bit.

[jackhackett80]

i think the idea of zeitgeist talking about the astrotheological hybrids is a way of telling us that instead of relying on the celestial bodies and our earth for spirituality, it was replaced with humanized versions of the same celestial worship...when 'natural worship' was replaced by allegory, it made the masses less intuitive to their natural powers...overall, that dumbing down leads to less free thought, and more people acting the same, hence making us easier to control.

[DaDazey]

True, first come with proper analysis, then distort that again with all kindsa nonsense. It is indeed called 'disinformation'. To add to the confusion!

[aidonia21]

its funny that you say this hahah lololol i have been noticing this in a lot of vids posted on youtube and online. you really have to do your own research and go in debt because these ppl on line is mixing the truth with lies, and you can tell by using your gut feelings. like alex jones. also look at the chain he has on, its a double cross

[truthseeker1973]

So what happens if your gut feelings aren't the same as someone elses gut feelings? Who is wrong?

If feelings are your fulcrum for truth, then you are a fool.

[aidonia21]

listen buddy its really simple if you are seeking truth you will always find it. it's your responsibility to find the information. if you are getting the information from another person who claims to have looked at the source you are no different from those who are asleep, thats all i'm saying, and this guy right here is what i'm talking about, he has a double cross chain on his neck, hence the term double cross from rosoucrucian masonry

[aidonia21]

funny thing hahahahaah lolol.....is that those who call me a fool will be very suprise in the end where everything begins to kick off, it will be 7 years of craziness hahahaha guaranteed. people will always be seeking knowledge but will never come to the truth. thats all i see on youtube the truth mixed with poison. only time will tell

[truthseeker1973]

Maybe I misread you, or thought you meant something else. I think it will be 3.5 years of craziness though ;)

[aidonia21]

oh did you notice the double cross chain the guy has on in the vid, i don't understand how he wants to expose something then where's a rosocrucian masonic chain, makes no sense

[truthseeker1973]

Though there is a lot of truth in his information, he doesn't get the most crucial parts correct, so I wouldn't trust the man as a source for truth by any means.

[aidonia21]

yep one of the major problems with a few of these vids on youtube, thats why i always check the sources, like ziegiest

[Poonard]

not all symbols are negative. only in context can you make such judgments. NOW, i agree, it is rather silly this man and others unnamed to be doing what they are doing. They pretended like we wouldn't notice. silly assholes, however, i do appreciate their efforts. it at the very least shows the door.

[aidonia21]

i know not all symbols are negative, thats obvious i'm not new to this. that wasn't my point. you can always tell who is sincere with there efforts and who is not if you listen to them long enough. humans always give that away, only the naive and unwise fall for it. but symbols are very important, even if you change the meaning of a symbol it does change what it's original use is for. especially when it comes to spiritual evil. the spirit world is one thing humans lack knowledge of. ex: karma

[remnant077]

i like how you put words together. very charismatic

[mike460460]

btw, thats r o s i c r u c i a n........I'm sure you're aware that that translates to " people of the rosey cross". dont focus on history where you wanna. start with the romans, and teutonic germany.......fool

[aidonia21]

you're an idiot. what are you talking about did you even take the time to read my original comment or ask what i was referring to, NOOOOOOO!!!!!.

[mike460460]

yeah??? really...whathappens in seven years Big Ben???

[aidonia21]

i may have seen only one guy on here that actually took a trip to washington DC to visit the library of masons. i have made that trip myself and the things i researched there, because they will let you in you just have to call in advance. anyway what i researched there and the things i see on youtube are so twisted its crazy. people take the NWO truth and twist it to fit their audience and then people begin to follow them and its like a religion to them lolololololol. you sound like one of them

[haistany]

"If feelings are your fulcrum for truth, then you are a fool. "

Infact, feelings are the only thing you can rely in the midst of all these lies. Feelings are independet from rational thinking, independet of any logical story you may choose to believe in.

Feelings don't lie, you can logically explain to yourself that everything is fine, but that won't take away your bad feeling.

Therefore, if you seek the truth, investigate your feelings, learn to understand them.

Good luck mate.

[truthseeker1973]

Sorry mate. Truth is not afraid of investigation, and truth always leaves evidence behind. Your heart will deceive you ABOVE ALL THINGS. Our hearts are tainted with desire. Get a clue mate. If feelings could represented truth, would not every man have the same feelings for a particular truth? Sometimes the truth can be very bitter as well.

[eel4q2]

Im with truthseeker feelings can be manipulated or induced by pharmacological means. The gut instinct can often confuse people rather than seek truth!

[mooners40]

@truthseeker1973 where are the lies? Goes what he say conflict with your christian views and is therefore a lie? i haven't watched it yet - just askin

[truthseeker1973]

@mooners40

What you are basically asking here is what is truth. If Christianity is true, and Jesus really did exist than anything that contradicts it would naturally be deception. There is plenty of information out there to answer that, if truth really is what your after. I watched this video like a year ago, so I'd have to watch it again. Mike is a new ager just like David Icke, and no, I don't think something is a lie JUST because its not what I believe.

[mooners40]

@truthseeker1973 i was asking where the lies where - before watching so i could spot them - lazy i know - but being pointed towards is easier - if you remember them let me know

[HermeticPoet]

@truthseeker1973 Don't mean to correct you, but Tsarion and Icke are anything but New agers. So now your mixing lies with truth??? The "question" of the Jesus character has NOT been proven by any serious scholar, and before you quote the usual "historian" Josephus: Which Jesus? He mentions 19 of them, it was a very common name, Where are the Historical records of Miracles???

[truthseeker1973]

@HermeticPoet

Of course you mean to. I don't lie, I could be wrong however. For some reason people can't distinguish between the two. The existence of Jesus was never in question, in fact if he never did exist, the closer you get to the flip from BC to AD there would be more of a problem. Just from quotes of 1st and 2nd century Christians you can compile 99% of the new testament. The fool says there is no God. And yes, Icke is a new ager, no different than alias Jordan Maxwell.

[NuclearTactics]

@truthseeker1973,yep zeitgeist's federal reserve and 9/11 parts were correct but the religious part was a load of bull!

[9Clutch]

@truthseeker1973 I do agree that Peter Joseph placed a does of poison in the spoonful of honey. Its called "disinformation". I am not not sure if people like Michael Tsarion and Jordan Maxwell are indeed doing the same or not. I would not be surprised since the project of the NWO is to strip the world of religious beliefs. Whats the "dirt" behind Michael Tsarion? Im interested to know. Thanks.

[truthseeker1973]

@9Clutch

Birds of the same feather. Watch this video, explains a little on Jordan Maxwell. Another video points out Maxwell isn't even his original name, and it's based on the name of a goddess. He listens to demons (voices) like David Icke basically admits to.

watch?v=WQSMTpQxnlI

Lots of truth in these videos, just be careful the creator of them is a 7DA, and his videos do cater to it.

[girlphriend]

@truthseeker1973 i'm starting to wonder if he's "poisening" us or just telling us how HE sees things. no one agrees 100%. he may have been misinformed, too. the next discovery can change everything! thats part of being open minded. being able to say oops maybe i was wrong. wrong doesnt mean evil or agenda ALL the time, does it?

[PaniLusia]

for those whose wondering why so many misinformations, weird rumors, anti-semite propaganda and obvious lies: YES, HES A MUSLIM.

X-D

[WorshipInTruth]

Oh we dont have time to explore it.. and I have set no proof for saying such BUT ITS IRREFUTABLE. What a load of garbage.

[WorshipInTruth]

Haha Tarot before Torah, no sir definately not.. I would like to know what bullshit source he got that information from. Sometimes I wonder if him and maxwell are trying to speak real truth or just bash Christianity.

[PaniLusia]

hehe yeah, that was a bit dumb. first of all, most of items which are tarot's symbols, like swords, wheels and so on, are much younger then tora

X-)

Tarot cards are very recent, they are even younger then normal cards.

[WorshipInTruth]

Tsario, since he was a protege of Maxwell presents this stuff in a very interesting manner, and of course much of this info is priceless. But... Tsarion has some weird beliefs which I can tell you are most likely false. Particularly his views on Ireland etc.

[jackhackett80]

yea i agree that sometimes the dots are connected where they are not meant to be as far as tsarion and maxwell...dont get me wrong, both of them are quite intelligent and well researched, and i think about 85% of what they say is valuable, the other 15% is info being connected to benefit their theories.

[jadestock]

Well presented and researched. Not for the closed narrow minded fools who cling to indoctrinated beliefs.

[jackhackett80]

why did you get '-3'?

[Stacey3030]

Torah was written WAY before the tarot came around...

[reachthewraparound]

haha if you think hes a liar youre a blind sheep

[dead300times]

this guy is a liar.he will burn,unless he does like anyone must do to not be burned in the lake of fire.

do the will of the father instead of your own and you will see heaven.

[mythofmyself]

I got your heaven in my pants. lol Get a clue, you are a slave

[rlaffi]

you are a slave of human creations, god does exist just not in the way many religions will tell you.

[OldSmellyCrotch]

Shrooooooooms!!!!

[nimphphlown]

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[ErikErikSonD]

first!!