with Mark Webber in a Mercedes, this type of somersault also occured to Ricartdo Patrese ( F1 ) at about the same speed ( 180mph). He landed on his four wheels as well.
Actually the landing was extremely soft compared to the air time. he landed in really high grass and moss and he landed with the wheels down, he was completely unharmed.
Does anyone have a clip of the Le Mans crash of 1985 where the mercedies does a double backflip and lands on its wheels? That was the crash that made them put the two chicanes on the long strait.
The two Chicanes on the Mulsane came when the Sauber C9 Mercedes-Benz clocked around 400km/t (250mph) down the straight. What they did when the mercedes flipped was to lower some hills on the straight in order to prevent these flips
This is the same thing that happened to the porshe years before, you would think that they would test the car sufficiently before putting it out on the track at 200+ mph with other people and cars around them.
"An aerodynamic fault on the team's Mercedes-Benz CLRs caused Webber to spectacularly become airborne during both practice and race-day warm up, with the same fate befalling teammate Peter Dumbreck five hours into the race. Both drivers escaped uninjured, but the crashes forced Mercedes to shelve their sportscar program for the year and Webber to reconsider a return to open wheel racing."
It is not just the bump, the car set up was probably done to maximize frontal downforce and the Toyota in front created so much vaccum that Dumbreck didn't have ground effects to hold the front end, this plus the bump plus the circuit going downhill made the MB fly.
my knowladge tells me that a number of things would have been created by the car infront:
the friction of the car infront would have heated the air to a slightly higher temperature through exaust gasses and friction, thus expanding the air to fill the gap behind the car created by its shape cutting through the air, this hot air would be trapped by the cold air around it causing if anything MORE downforce on the CLR by gas expansion. i'll have to start a new reply as ive ran out of characters.
The Toyota (or any car running at that speed) creates a vacuum as it displaces. In any case, the friction and exhaust gases compound the problem because as air increases temp. it lowers its density. The MB flights because of lack of air forcing the front end down. If there would me air, the downforce will be higher and the car will run glued to the track. I am sure MB reduced the ground effects as much as possible for Le Mans to take full advantage of the Mulsanne straighaway.
i see what you are saying Wysiwyg, however i am assured that the affect created by the rapid expansion of the air outweighs the affect of lower density, also decreasing downforce all over the car NOT JUST THE FRONT SPOILER BOYS AND GIRLS, would decrease drag and increase top end speed, Again replying to your comment, the vaccum behind aerodynamic designed cars, like the toyota, is purposly as small as possible, as this decreases the suction of the vaccum on the car thus increasing its top speed
the suction affect i had noted is purposely as small as possible as the car would be slowed down by its own suction, this is why engineers tend not to leave the rear ends of high performance sport cars very low to the ground, The suction created by the toyota "one of the most arodynamic cars of its era" would not have contributed greatly to its affect on the car behind, also the distance between the cars was far too great for the vaccum to affect the CLR
yeah I remember seing this live on tv there was another similar crash also in le mans... maybe even the same year where also a car started "flying" and did a spin in the air. you should find it on youtube aswell. and well the reason was appearently a manufacture failure in the aerodynamics wich under certain conditions started pulling of instead of pushing down.
I watched a special on this car, apparently Mercedes made the car TOO aerodynamic, so there just wasn't enough downforce keeping the front of the car down, so the air going under the car... well you can see the beautiful results. :)
Because katmandu2k Le Mans cars are really arrowdynamic for obivisly racing, top speed, accelertion, etc. so if they start to get to fast and hit a small bumb the nose of the car will flip up anf this is happen.
first ever landed quad cork! suck it torstein
jsizzle711 3 months ago
with Mark Webber in a Mercedes, this type of somersault also occured to Ricartdo Patrese ( F1 ) at about the same speed ( 180mph). He landed on his four wheels as well.
mradipatti 1 year ago
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madduck09 2 years ago
it was Peter Dumbreck in the Mercedes at this moment
ForzaAlfaCorse 2 years ago 2
**not mark sry
FRFM00 3 years ago
Mark Webber pilot
FRFM00 3 years ago
hope the driver is ok...
LexSullivan 3 years ago
He is. He's in Formula 1 now. ;)
Bristecom 3 years ago
Oh sorry, this was Peter Dumbreck's flip. But yeah, he was ok.
Bristecom 3 years ago
WOW! what a flight... harsh landing it the woods thought
LexSullivan 3 years ago
Actually the landing was extremely soft compared to the air time. he landed in really high grass and moss and he landed with the wheels down, he was completely unharmed.
cyber797 2 years ago 3
900 degrees
3d6tl 3 years ago
good lord!
kurva27 3 years ago
cool car filps i like how it got closer to the car
Nata1209 3 years ago
Haven't they heard of something called front-downforce?
The same happened multiple times with Mercedes CLR...
Just because someone is driving in front of it, it should never loose downforce like that...
To compare, look how the fronts of new LMP-1 og LMP-2 cars are designed. Very different!
LordParkour 3 years ago 2
Fool Its the flat under body not lack of down force that makes that happen
Thewbatross 3 years ago
Ur wrong!
LordParkour 3 years ago
Care to go further?
Thewbatross 3 years ago
but dude, I posted that FUKKIN 4 MONTHS ago .. Why do you care so much?
LordParkour 3 years ago
couldn't give fuck actually just bored
Thewbatross 3 years ago
the carzy part is that he flips the car again later in the week.
limitlessracer 3 years ago
Does anyone have a clip of the Le Mans crash of 1985 where the mercedies does a double backflip and lands on its wheels? That was the crash that made them put the two chicanes on the long strait.
Miklus023 3 years ago
The two Chicanes on the Mulsane came when the Sauber C9 Mercedes-Benz clocked around 400km/t (250mph) down the straight. What they did when the mercedes flipped was to lower some hills on the straight in order to prevent these flips
ballefras 3 years ago
yes as stated further down the driver was mark webber and he walked away from this with only minor injuries
st8tsman 3 years ago
This is the same thing that happened to the porshe years before, you would think that they would test the car sufficiently before putting it out on the track at 200+ mph with other people and cars around them.
TrayFree 4 years ago
peter dumbreck is crazy man
ViniciusGT4 4 years ago
"An aerodynamic fault on the team's Mercedes-Benz CLRs caused Webber to spectacularly become airborne during both practice and race-day warm up, with the same fate befalling teammate Peter Dumbreck five hours into the race. Both drivers escaped uninjured, but the crashes forced Mercedes to shelve their sportscar program for the year and Webber to reconsider a return to open wheel racing."
Murdoc426 4 years ago
Mark Webber was the driver
controlwl 4 years ago
varash is right car is so light hit a bump lifted front enough to make it a caroplane
weedeno253 4 years ago
For this wreck, it actually was Peter Dumbreck.
To my knowledge, there is not video of Webbers wreck. When Webber blew over, he ended up on his roof on in the middle of the straightaway.
POSMaggott 4 years ago
which 1? there are a couple vids of webbers '99 wreck
chirag2fast4ufast4u 4 years ago
Not that I've seen. The only video I know of is from practice, and it cuts to Webbers car on its roof, but no replays.
I've seen pictures of Webbers accident, but no video of it actually happening.
POSMaggott 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
mark webber was the driver
bigbluff15 4 years ago
Peter Dumbreck
mbrammsteinmb 4 years ago
Mark Webber I think
SDAMG 4 years ago
who is the driver?
BlacksmithSlasher 4 years ago
those cars have front spoilers, if it was providing the proper amount of down force it would have never lifted
GeniusCreator811 4 years ago
fuck off..."lack of spoiler adjustment" he hit a bump... wind under the car... Car turns into a massive aerofoil...woosh...Nothing to do with spoiler
VarashTR 4 years ago 3
He's right, quit negative rating his comment. Get a physics lesson or something you retards.
PublicSecrecy 4 years ago
but the car looks like it has a lack of ground effect also
screwyou4444 4 years ago
VarashTR,
It is not just the bump, the car set up was probably done to maximize frontal downforce and the Toyota in front created so much vaccum that Dumbreck didn't have ground effects to hold the front end, this plus the bump plus the circuit going downhill made the MB fly.
wysiwyg248 3 years ago
my knowladge tells me that a number of things would have been created by the car infront:
the friction of the car infront would have heated the air to a slightly higher temperature through exaust gasses and friction, thus expanding the air to fill the gap behind the car created by its shape cutting through the air, this hot air would be trapped by the cold air around it causing if anything MORE downforce on the CLR by gas expansion. i'll have to start a new reply as ive ran out of characters.
VarashTR 3 years ago
VarashTR,
The Toyota (or any car running at that speed) creates a vacuum as it displaces. In any case, the friction and exhaust gases compound the problem because as air increases temp. it lowers its density. The MB flights because of lack of air forcing the front end down. If there would me air, the downforce will be higher and the car will run glued to the track. I am sure MB reduced the ground effects as much as possible for Le Mans to take full advantage of the Mulsanne straighaway.
wysiwyg248 3 years ago
i see what you are saying Wysiwyg, however i am assured that the affect created by the rapid expansion of the air outweighs the affect of lower density, also decreasing downforce all over the car NOT JUST THE FRONT SPOILER BOYS AND GIRLS, would decrease drag and increase top end speed, Again replying to your comment, the vaccum behind aerodynamic designed cars, like the toyota, is purposly as small as possible, as this decreases the suction of the vaccum on the car thus increasing its top speed
VarashTR 3 years ago
continuing "i see what you are..."
the suction affect i had noted is purposely as small as possible as the car would be slowed down by its own suction, this is why engineers tend not to leave the rear ends of high performance sport cars very low to the ground, The suction created by the toyota "one of the most arodynamic cars of its era" would not have contributed greatly to its affect on the car behind, also the distance between the cars was far too great for the vaccum to affect the CLR
VarashTR 3 years ago
Hit a little bump and lost ground effect... no front DF - flying Merc. Ouch! That's been smoothed out now - soft French ;)
Berniebaz 4 years ago 2
3! points!
wantutrip 4 years ago
I remember when I saw this in the sport news 1999.
tazi69 4 years ago
Lack of spoiler adjustment
wantutrip 4 years ago
Ki la guidava?? ma poi cm minkia ha fatto???
Strummer90 4 years ago
no damage either, till it came down now its fucked!
stevenlap 4 years ago
The car think: I belive i can fly ^^
Gothicmanicer99 4 years ago 6
yeah I remember seing this live on tv there was another similar crash also in le mans... maybe even the same year where also a car started "flying" and did a spin in the air. you should find it on youtube aswell. and well the reason was appearently a manufacture failure in the aerodynamics wich under certain conditions started pulling of instead of pushing down.
Streetmember 4 years ago
I watched a special on this car, apparently Mercedes made the car TOO aerodynamic, so there just wasn't enough downforce keeping the front of the car down, so the air going under the car... well you can see the beautiful results. :)
Chernigov4 4 years ago
Oh man, how can this happen???
I mean, I would perfectly understand a flip where the car makes one turn and then lands upside down, but this one is literally flying in the air.
katmandu2k 4 years ago
Because katmandu2k Le Mans cars are really arrowdynamic for obivisly racing, top speed, accelertion, etc. so if they start to get to fast and hit a small bumb the nose of the car will flip up anf this is happen.
sikksotoon 4 years ago
When wind finds it's way UNDER the car, and not OVER at approx. 325 Km/h, you get a flying car
CobraMarty 4 years ago
its a bird! its a plane! no its a mercedes?
nachocheesegoood 4 years ago
yep he walked away without a scratch
mcdyritz 5 years ago
kewl
charpet10 5 years ago
*agog*
Apparently he was uninjured too.
cmjones83 5 years ago
Thats why you need air brakes! I never leave home without them.
aeonflux67 5 years ago
Thats cheating
bazmataz 5 years ago
thats no cheating that happened really
ericsauter74925 5 years ago
Uhm, no... That's what we call, failure in the aerodynamics where wind finds it's wa underneath the car, instead of over the car...
No cheating there, and how can this be a way of cheating?? Bad deal for the team, then ;-)
CobraMarty 4 years ago 3
sticazzi! che volo!
gianniepinotto 5 years ago