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  • Is that you thor? :O

  • Well I'm referring to Sweden's cultural heritage, not necessarily the culture in its current condition. And American culture? Have you been to the United States? Because I often hear people say their country is dominated by American culture, yet I don't see anything distinctly American about their culture.

    I think the west in general is blurring into a sort of sad haze of rubbish, but countries like Sweden and Russia have beautiful cultural heritage. Don't you think so?

  • Den här mannen med vagnen, skjuter han eller ger han skjuts?

  • Hahah Halland, det är rätt, Halländska ska det vara och ingen Stockholmska :>

  • Is that right that the standard Swedish dialect is the one spoken in Stockholm and its close surroundings? I am quite interested in knowing why speakers of other dialects express such hate towards it. I have to admit that I don't know much Swedish, even less about its many dialects, so consider my question as of pure curiosity.

  • @YnasMidgardNaule no the people in Stockholm have their own dialect, the so called "rikssvenska" is the dialect from Nyköping. However many in Stockholm have this dialect instead of the usual stockholm dialect (which sounds terrible). The main reason we hate the dialect is because we hate Stockholmers, they tend to be snobby and aloof which really contradicts the jentelag that rules the rest of sweden. Just like Queen's english it just sounds snobby and disgusting.Also a bit fag in the bad way

  • I agree with those of you that said if we foreigners are going to be laughed at all of the time for speaking Swedish, then why should we learn Swedish?

  • @HannonLe there really is no point since most swedish people know english pretty well.. andd you are not in any way honored by a swede because you can speak it.. it's not like in japan where they bow to their feet and presents gifts to you if you say konnichi wa >.<'

  • @Lighthammer18 I think you are quite rude. Many people, including myself, are interested in learning the Swedish language for its beauty, and for the fact that it is linked to a wonderful cultural and literary tradition that can't be properly accessed through English. You say there is no point in learning Swedish, this is sad. And it is odd that you have so much of an ego about your language, yet you don't see a point in learning it. You are a very strange, rude man.

  • @9244Matt beauty? sure, I'm not to judge what you think is beautiful or not.

    Not that I would say Sweden has had an extreme amount of potent literacy I can totally understand your reasons for learning the language. Practically it's useless, but swedish (like danish and norweigan) have many strange words and meanings that doesn not exist in other languages. I guess it's a viking thing. In that case I'm gonna present you some great writers: Strindberg, Taube, Moberg, Boye. (more to come)

  • @9244Matt (continued) if you are into peotry and the likes I can recommend Almqvist, I'm not that well read when it comes to poetry. Also you need to read Söderberg, he's one of the best.

    If you are going to learn swedish here is probably the greatest words ever been spoken in swedish

    /watch?v=C0jDJ-wsMYI and /watch?v=ohHNONAbheE

    He's basically talking about how screwed the west world is and how the east are taking over.. it's completely mindblowing! give it a watch, that's an order!

  • @9244Matt It is just a thing common to a lot of Swedes - to hate Swedish and love English - do not mind it!

  • @JonasAnonym I find the general attitude of Swedes towards their language to be quite strange. I mean, Scandinavians in general are always so quick to jump on someone when they don't pronounce their language properly, yet it's not as if I hear very many Scandinavians with good accents when they speak English. Germans, for example, aren't surprised when they hear an American speaking German with an American accent, but Swedes seem a bit offended. All this pride in a language they hate? Hmmm.

  • @JonasAnonym I also find it sad that they would hate their language, it is such a beautiful language.

  • @9244Matt I agree. Swedish also has a lot of advantages over English. 

  • @JonasAnonym Now that isn't true.

  • @JonasAnonym Now that isn't true.

  • @spum789 What is not true, about what I wrote?

  • @JonasAnonym Hata Svenska och älska Engelska?

    Nej men nu... Kanske om man bor söderut i Sverige. Men här uppe i norr är det då inte så.

  • @9244Matt oh yes the incredible culture of sweden! The only swedish culture we have left is our strange foods. Other than that it's all forgotten and replaced by shitty american culture. Todays sweden is full of nolifers.. gamers, cheap blonde bitches and racists. that's sweden for you, welcome!

  • Härlig dialekt.. Själv är jag gammal gottlänning men bor i stockholm =/

    Försöker hålla dialekten dock. 

  • Haha! "Stockholmska is the most disgusting dialect in the world" så jävla rätt! :D

    skåne!

  • Keep in mind he has an dialect wich makes it sound a bit different than it should. The moast noticeable is his way of pronouncing the letter "r" or the lack of him pronouncing it.

  • @Xaevi yes for some strange reason in halland the "r" is nor pronounced at all, while just a few miles down in skåne it's overpronounced xP

  • Dra åt helvete din finniga hallening eller vad fan du va. Stockholmska är rikssvenska, alltså den rena och riktiga svenskan.

  • @feelerr hehe din kommentar visar också intelligens nivån på stockholmare (Y) försök åtminstone få din IQ över din skostorlek innan du kommenterar >.<'

  • @Lighthammer18 Å kollar på din video för andra gången nu...

    Fan vad jag tycker synd om dig :( gubben...

    ta hand om dig. det är inte försent att ändra både insidan och UTSIDAN fast än man närmar sig 30. <3

  • @Lighthammer18 Bra sagt, stockholmare suger ofta. Sveriges amerikanare

  • @Lighthammer18 Fast egentligen behöver du ju inte kommentera för han vill ju bara ha reaktion. Jag kommer från Stockholms län men kan inte påstå att jag talar Stockholmska om man med Stockholmska menar att man säger e istället för ä och så. Jag tycker bara det är fånigt att gräla om olika dialekter och vilken som är fulast.

    Men i övrigt kul att du gjorde en film med korrekt uttal. Hade annars tänkt göra en. Kanske ska göra en med mitt uttal så kan ni andra gräla sen :)

  • @BobYork just med scandinaviska språk är dialekten väldigt viktig. Det är stora områden som pratar väldigt olika och väldigt få talar "TV-svenska".. Men det är fånigt att debattera om vilken som låter sämst, alla har sin åsikt och jag bryr mig inte xD nackdelen är ju att om en utlänning försöker lära sig svenska, vilken dialekt ska han försöka? Jag tror det är bäst att låta eleven få reda på att dialekterna finns och att det finns så stora skillnader mellan dem.

  • @Lighthammer18 Så du vill inte debattera, bara uttrycka din åsikt att Stockholskan är ful?

    Då är min åsikt att man inte ska nedvärdera någons dialekt. Därmed inte sagt att du tycker fel. Jag kanske inte tycker din är speciellt vacker men jag säger inte det i så fall.

    Angående vilken svenska man borde använda för att lära utlänningar så tycker jag finlandssvenskan är bäst. Det är nog den tydligaste dialekten, där alla bokstäver uttalas och inte sväljs som i de flesta andra dialekter.

  • @BobYork precis jag bryr mig inte vad andra tycker om stockholmskan... men ingen kan ju säga att den riktigt snobbiga typ lidingö dialekten är nått vackert :O precis som queen's english.. låter som personen tror han äger världen -.-

    jao det är ju så med scandinaviska språk att vi skiter i att uttala alla bokstäver, danskan är ett prima exempel på det xP

  • @Lighthammer18 Fast på Lidingö talar de inte Stockholmska :)

    De talar lidingödialekt. Där man av någon anledning slänger sig med i stulna från Viby-trakten...

    Å den är inte särskilt vacker. Själv talar jag inte nån tydlig dialekt tycker jag. Uppväxt i invandrarförort med en förälder som talar lite Stockholmskt (e istället för ä) och en föräldrer som talar mer Sörmländskt. Då blir det så att man får nån otydlig variant.

  • @BobYork precis som jag xD har nån konstig blandning av halländska och skånska xD i halland uttalar man inte "r" och i skåne betonar man dem xD jätteskumt!

  • Fan va söt du är Thor <3

  • Lighthammer,

    At the start of this video you almost sound Australian, with the stressed Good Day...

    NaomiChambers,

    You have to be able to say: rødgrød med fløde before you start telling them about your grandparents. Wait a minute, that would be relevant in Denmark, not Sweden... and you are learning Swedish right?!

    Anyhow, Lighthammer is right. Danish is hard, especilly to pronounce, and that is before we get to the grammar, which usually comes at the end [of a word].

  • Could you please help me pronounce the word föräldrar. I am learning Swedish...and I cannot pronounce that word for the life of me.

  • @NaomiChambers well the problem with telling someone how to pronounce it is that there are a million ways and for some stupid reason these nitwits called swedes picks at different dialects, so if I say how I pronounce it, those pesky stockholmers will tell you it's wrong so why bother >.<' try learning a useful language like arabic or chinese.. everybody in sweden already speaks english so there's no point in learning it

  • @Lighthammer18

    I learn language for the enjoyment. I enjoy Swedish. It is my fifth language. Maybe I will pick up one of the others you recommended.

  • @NaomiChambers well you sure picked a tough one ;) but if you want to be even more badass with the pronounciation you should really try out my mother tongue: danish! I have never seen any foren dude pronounce that language correct xD

  • @Lighthammer18

    I heard that there is mutual intelligibility between Danish and Swedish. Is this true?

    If you would like to hear me speak Swedish, I am on live mocha. Everyone corrects my accent. If you search for Naomi Chambers you will find me.

  • @NaomiChambers I think that depends on who you ask, and how it's presented to you. If it's verbal or in text. I'm a dane, and i didn't get a word of what he was saying. Personally i find Norwegian to be easier to understand verbally.

    In writing, it's the same thing, Norwegian over Swedish however, i'd have an easier time understanding a Swedish text then i would someone verbalizing it.

  • @NaomiChambers sure the languages are related but there are big differences between them... but overall I think it's easier for a dane to understand swedish than the opposite.. but I speak both fluently so I'm not entirely sure about it...

  • Seriöst? Om du över Internet ska visa hur riktig svenska låter för icke-svenskar så ska du fan snacka rikssvenska din gröthals!

  • @MrMugg vad är grötigt med detdär?

  • "Stockholmska" är inte samma som dialekten från tex lidingö... knappt någon alls som pratar så. Stockholmska är något helt annat

  • hallänska e härligt.. men jag föredrar stockholmska / nyköpingska (tydligen rikssvenska.. o.o) endåå (: ..

  • Texten ska ju helst läsas med bred småländska :D

  • How dare you say my stockholm dialect is disgusting? ;P

  • Cute :)

  • Lighthammer, when I saw the other video I had the same reaction. I don't understand why non-Swedes try to explain Swedish. Thanks for your video. Now we know how real Swedish should sound!

  • @Lighthammer18 Um, you can have a distinct pronunciation in a language. Certain accents are native and certain accents foreign. Look at the ever-pervasive Americanism in media/global culture, and you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who would consider American English not "real English".

    Your English is HORRIBLE.

    And it's not childish to call someone childish when they are in fact, being childish. It is childish to use some sort of circular, non-sensical logic to condemn someone.

  • @matijaantun today people think american is more english than queen's english.. why? cause brittish dialects can be damn hard to understand while the 'regular' american is pretty understandable.. and ofc the americans spew out all of their dialect in 99% of todays mass media... I think it would do people good to watch more briittish stuff on tv.. let them flip to fawlty towers or something once in a while

  • @matijaantun "Your English is HORRIBLE." I don't think his English is horrible at all. I understand him perfectly. In fact, he speaks better English than many Americans born in US. Chill out dude. Americans make fun of other people's accents all the time.

  • @matijaantun "Your English is HORRIBLE." I don't think his English is horrible at all. I understand him perfectly. In fact, he speaks better English than many Americans born in US. Chill out dude. Americans make fun of other people's accents all the time.

  • Great stuff, thanks for posting this. However, your voice sounded a little monotone while you were reading the text. It would have been nice to hear it with a bit more energy in it... more like the way you spoke at the beginning of the video.

  • stockholmska är INTE fult, såna som pratar stockholmska är riktigt jävla sköna. jag pratar inte stockholmska själv mendet är sjönt med såna som gör det, man fattar allt so man säger, skåningar och dalmasar kan an ju tro är dumma i huvet ibland när de går och "pratar" eller vad mannu ska kalla det, ett bätre sätt att sägedet på är nog"göra läten från munnen"

  • haha. i guess if you're going to learn a language, learn how it's pronounced properly (like the queen) and then learn how to speak it like a native and smush the right words together. :P

    and i love hearing how people don't like the stockholm accent. hahahaha. i have a friend from tjörn who feels the same way.

    what do people in sweden think of your accent (is it similar to tjörn)? and you mentioned skåne, what do swedes think of the scanian accent?

  • @Svettjodd norrländska är ju rätt soft^^ jag menar mer den snobbiga dialekten, typ danderyd och lidingö.. var ett tag sen jag vart i stockholm så har nog aldrig hört den där stockholm-norrländska dialekten :P

  • As an American learning Swedish, I have to say thank you for this. While most Americans think "Swedish" is sing-songy, the original video did seem to exaggerate it quite a bit. So in that sense, thank you for clarifying the pronunciation.

    On the other hand, next time just don't be so ignorant. I could say I laughed my ass off at your English, but I didn't-- it was good, but very wrong and accented as well. Along with "I didn't even listen to the translation," you just seemed childish.

  • @godmodeon666 you cannot have a distinct pronounciation in any language.. it all changes-- if you're an american I could debate you don't speak english cause you don't speak like the queen, but that doesn't make much sense...

    and I am a child so I have no problems with acting childish, though i would say you're pretty childish too for condemning me as a child.. mature people don't do that

  • @Lighthammer18 I think what godmodeon666 is trying to say, is that it could be incredibly discouraging to a learner for you to say that you laughed your ass off at his Swedish. Because SOOO many people speak English as a second language, most of us (Americans, Britons, Australians, etc.) can hear ANY kind of accent and not give a care. Think of someone telling you the same joke every five minutes. Wouldn't be funny after a year. Because of this, I think when someone learns say: Swedish

  • @jmichaelrout I do know everything about that! I'm currently learning spanish, italian, japanese, chinese and korean.. I get corrected more than every five minutes.. and it's required for speaking the language fluently.. though for a foren to speak swedish without any foren dialect at all it's nearly impossible! believe me I've seen ppl who have tried extremely hard inn about 10 years and still they have a distinct foren tone to the language.. but there are so many foren so it's normal to hear

  • @Lighthammer18 ...of course a Swede is going to take notice of every little peculiarity and idiosyncrasy. So, maybe, just maybe.. You don't know what it's like to have someone laugh at your English because compared to the other billion people who speak, yours isn't so bad, whereas compared to the other? tens of thousands? who have learned Swedish, Dr. Argüelles' is downright awful. I think you probably need a lesson in humility. If all Swedes have this attitude, why even learn Swedish.

    P.S.:

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  • @Lighthammer18 Um, you can have a distinct pronunciation in a language. Certain accents are native and certain accents foreign. Look at the ever-pervasive Americanism in media/global culture, and you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who would consider American English not "real English".

    Your English is HORRIBLE.

    And it's not childish to call someone childish when they are in fact, being childish. It is childish to use some sort of circular, non-sensical logic to condemn someone.

  • @godmodeon666 You mean arrogant.

  • Haha! Hej Tor!

  • @Guttplutt umm hej... vem?

  • Hahaha som jag garvade när du sa det om Stockholmskan, för jag satt och tänkte "bara han inte läser det med 08-dialekt nu..." och så sa du det xD Klockrent!

  • @JennieParker87 haha jaa men vem fan gillar stockholmska? xD

  • haha stockholmska är i och för sig 10x snyggare än din jävla dialekt. dessutom anser jag att den icketalande personen, alltså killen på den videon du lagt upp detta videosvar till läste lite mer flytande, vilket innebär att du suger och har lässvårigheter just på grund av att du bor i "halland" vart fan det nu ligger...

  • I know some Danish and like it, but what I can say to a Swede who makes fun of it. What do Danes make of Swedes for.

  • @drax325 well the swedes are usually too stupid to know that they're made fun of... but I usually bully them because they never say jam, jelly, cheese, cheers like they should to.. they say yam, yelly, sheese, sheers -.-

    but other than that I don't really know..

    you can alwasy go with the classic: in sweden the girls look so good you think you're in heaven, but it's hard to find a virgin over eleven =D meaning that swedes are cheap as hell, which they indeed are :P

  • @Lighthammer18 Like most whores.

  • Skjutschalen? It says "skjuts - karlen". ;)

    It's worth noticing that you're using the "southern" pronunciation "di" for the word "de" (they). In the original video he pronounced it "dom", whereas I would probably say "de" reading this text.

  • @Opuskrokus my bad (A)

    howevere I don't see the "di" instead of "de", down here we usually skip the word altogether, or at least it's very fast.. it's not like in stockholm where they say "däääääääää" xD

  • We need some real Norrländska on that text.

  • i'm laughing my ass of when you're speaking english (just saying)

  • @Tyrox1992 ok?

  • it's a pity you don't have the rolling r's, but otherwise you accent is quite cute :P

    and then i guess that the rollig r's are more used in the north of sweden

    (i come from Gästrikland) ;D

  • yeah well I've got a mix of all hehe.. many think I sound like a skåning, but ppl from skåne think I'm from småland -.-

    I don't know what dialect I have haha xD I*m pretty adept in impersonating different dialects, therefore I think my ordinaty dialect is abit overshadowed my all the others xD

  • Det är bara i södern dom skorrar :) T'ex jag är från Götteborg och där rullar vi som sagt och det är ju ena gött :)

  • Tack.

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