during indonesia anti chinese riot 1998, spore closed door for indo chinese, yet open special program for HK people who we were scared of China take over (program failed to attract large number of HK). sporean are too COWARD or DON'T CARE of indo chinese their supposed to be fellow chinese. Western country even help, even taiwan & china helped in some ways. no matter what your excuse is it was a cowardly selfish act. shamefully selfish people!!
@mrryhenboss how is it that only spore have got to take the rap? did any of the other nation open their doors to the indo chinese during the riots? why blame only spore? have the indo chinese helped Spore with her struggling independence years and riots in the 60s? Last we checked, Not at all. yes other countries helped, but they were in the form of diplomatic statements thru the media. i find that your bias perception and labeling of spore is simply unfair and far from the truth.
@zeph0n12 WRONG!! during the riot, other countries help not only thru media stetement, but also physically, Aust + other western country extended visa of indo chinese without question, in china & taiwan common people organised some help & charity to escaped indo chinese. what spore gvt or people do? NOTHING, yes NIL! indo chinese only given one month visa on arrival (which was for everyone anyway) after that no extension, despite dangerous situation indo chinese faced if going back.
@mrryhenboss about your visa extension, like you said, indonesian were all given one month visas, like everyone else, every nationalities were treated equally as well. no discrimination against the indo chinese. Your arguement that western countries extended the visa without questions, did the govt of the other non western countries done the same? im sure hong kong, taiwan and brunei didnt not. so why blame singapore only?
@zeph0n12 dont' know, but I know that spore made it very difficult even impossible to extend the visa, that's one bad reason already. u talked equal treatment, but that time u opened door for HK, who wished to escape China, that's another double standard. Third, many countries, with or without Chinese population, either govt or private individual or group spoke condemning the racial violence. Again ,what did u do or say? NOTHING, ZERO! from govt to common people.
@mrryhenboss i think u mixed up two different thing. Visa is a tempory pass to stay in any country. the policy for HKers is to immigrate to spore. it is Not extending of the visa.
@mrryhenboss any indonesian chinese is welcome to immigrate to spore like the HKers. it is the chinese indo who only want to extend the visa and not immigrate. how you mixed the two up is a mystery.
@zeph0n12 yes the rich one, that time, any indo chinese including not so rich tried to escape. the fact was spore govt made it very difficult or impossible to extend stay, knowing that some not so rich was in spore as well. Face the fact that spore didn't want to extend the visa of indo chinese that time, while some other countries extended the visa without question. I don't understand why u don't get this. HK could extend their stay easily that time (not migrant visa)
@zeph0n12 at that time, special HK migrant visa set up exclusively to take HK who wanted to escape china (HK not even in danger that time, just scare mongering about communism). So why set up special program exclusively that time for people who were not facing danger at all. It's all double face, anything as long as it suits the purpose. I'm talking even at that time, tourist visa for HK could be extended easily, u don't know this fact, not a mystery since what u read is all rubbish.
@zeph0n12 at that time, special HK migrant visa set up exclusively to take HK who wanted to escape china (HK not even in danger that time, just scare mongering about communism). So why set up special program exclusively that time for people who were not facing danger at all. It's all double face, anything as long as it suits the purpose. I'm talking even at that time, tourist visa for HK could be extended easily, u don't know this fact, not a mystery since what u read is all rubbish.
@mrryhenboss den how did all these indonesian chinese end up in singapore?? in 1999, my classes were filled with bambangs, widjayas, hierantos, andres...
@mrryhenboss just because people u knew choose to escape to singapore, and not brunei, myanmar or thailand, and singapore unfornuately couldnt accomodate the situation quick enough, has now become your target of degrotory comments. how is this fair? singapore did help it ways that the other international community did, just that singapore is and was a small country, anything they do, usually do not get media coverage.
@zeph0n12 at the very least , spore should've condemned racial riot, ar even with the softest tone possible. Did u do that? not even that, not the people not govt, only complete silence, like living in fear of indo retaliation or just being selfish or both.spore the closest neighbour if said anything 'd get coverage, check the history before tallking, does your emperor still allow u to read the truth?
@mrryhenboss did i do what? if i could, i not only condemned the riots, i'll condemned u. spore isnt your only neighbour. what emperor are u talking about? u check your history.
@zeph0n12 don't know if u pretend or not, btw, the emperor I was referring too is emperor lee, your imperial dynasty govt., not a mystery since u r trained to think the same.
@mrryhenboss who do you think will make the jakarta post front page? china and taiwan helping indonesian chinese, or singapore helping indonesian chinese? no doubt the news attention will be given to bigger and power nations like the ones you mentioned, china, taiwan, australia, singapore will be hustled out.
@zeph0n12 don't try to argue with me, I know personally people affected by this. That time spore opened special migrant visa for HK, why? 1960s indo chinese themselves was in trouble, how can they help? sporean is in a position to help, either govt/people can organise something. I am shocked with the level of ignorance/selfishness of sporean. I am not biased, this is the fact, a shame history of selfish people.
@mrryhenboss i disagree. singapore never had any help since her independence. Singapore knows that no one or country owes singapore, singapore doesnt expect any help if they ever run into a crisis. therefore others should expect the same. Singapore is only a tiny island. what you expect from them? singapore themselves are fighting for survivor everyday. will the indonesian or malaysian help singapore? i doubt so. pls stop blaming others for your own short comings.
@zeph0n12 who do u expect to come to your rescue? your master the british? not a chance. I don't expect much from tiny nation, sharing same root with indo chinese, at least said, did small little thing to voice concern 'd be good enough. The fact, if u r still allowed to read the truth there, spore were frightened of helping indo chinese and / or just don't care, actually singled out & kept an eye on indo chinese there made sure they left the country asap.
@zeph0n12 I can say this I know many indo chinese & some malaysian too, I must say that yes, if u are in crisis, possibility they'd help u is much bigger that u help them. u just don't think u'd be in crisis, at some point, tiny nation like yours'd need help, u cant run to your british master anymore. Nothing to blame it's just presenting the fact that as history proved that indo chinese shouldn/t expect anything from sporean, as u also shouldn't expect any help from anyone.
@mrryhenboss hi, i just check and did some reading up. s'pore did not close it doors to indonesian chinese. Indonesian travelling to Spore is Visa free, meaning you dont need a visa. But back then, probably the Asean Visa free policy have not be in placed, thats why indonesian entering spore will need visa. and as for any country, visa application takes time to process. extending of visa and issuing one is two separate matter. to apply for visa, one need time to process. to extend,is another
@zeph0n12 I know that 30 day visa given on arrival, I'm talking about difficulty of extending your stay afterward, unlike other countries giving automatic renewal for extension until situation was deemed to be safe to return.
@mrryhenboss i also check archives of local newspaper, they carried reports of huge influx of indonesian chinese to malaysia, singapore and taiwan. Singapore papers reported a sharp increase in indo chinese migration to singapore. many indonesian chinese also applied for student pass, and their family went along. just google it and the links will bring you to the archives. did singapore close the doors? u judge.
@zeph0n12 again, for people who could afford yes, money, do u know that time many escaped only managed to airport (no turn back) with cash in hand, sold the car /anything at airport to unscrupulous indonesian at low price. They had nothing much, who helped them? those lucky enough went to taiwan/china got more help than in spore. the rich one off course not an issue, they have account in spore bank. helping rich people is not helping, that come with price, anyone can do.
@zeph0n12 what I am shocked is that not only the govt but also the people showed no affection at all. Ask yout govt if they gave any ease to indo chinese, like temporary visa extension or anything at all to help! like othes u are also brainwashed by your emperor. U live in the world of selfishness, not caring/knowing that if u are in trouble, others may come to help u.
@mrryhenboss pardon me, like what u said, if this is about the singapore govt, den why make statement like singaporeans are cowards and selfish? its unfair to judge and say that singaporeans in general are cowards and selfish. where is your argument dude? why only specifically target s'poreans?
@mrryhenboss and NO. Sporeans are not ruled by an emperor. and definately not brainwash by the "EMPEROR" ive worked in singapore for more than a decade, what i see S'poreans as, are hardworking and honest people. they are also overly compassionate to the extend that many have exploited their kindness. that said, you talk as if you know singapore very well. perhaps you shouldnt habour any resentment of any country, spend time wisely and start with your own.
@mrryhenboss my dad is a indonesian chinese. how did my family ended up in singapore? how is it that half my classmates were indonesian chinese? i dont understand. why is it you keep blaming spore?
@zeph0n12 u obvously came there recently & from well to do family too, now there is no crisis, off course spore govt accept indo chinese students, that's all about money too. that time 1998, spore didn't think it'd worthed to help or even say anything at all, humanity is not priority. that's why I said it was shameful.
@mrryhenboss please, i may not have experience what the indonesian chinese been through, the stuff i read about the riot is terrifying. and i salute the indo chinese. but all im saying is pls dont think that ALL singaporeans are not compassionate, not willing to lend a hand. like u say, the immigration policy are not laid out by the people, so labelling and generallsing is unfair. even certain policy by the singapore gov is unfair to the singaporeans. u cant make everyone happy.
@zeph0n12 spore govt ruled by people with calculated mind, no compassion ground considered, but sporean commoners should have some their own independent mind.
@mrryhenboss i agree, most common singaporeans have independent mind. but the strict laws doesnt permits commoner to express their true opions. commoners can only go with the flow. so pardon them
@zeph0n12 nothing else to say, govt dictate, people follow, it's the dark history that sporean should learn that compassion & humanity is important part of life, I wish.
@zeph0n12 are they affraid to act agains the govt wish? like set up a charity to help or protest the violence at the softest tone? if china & taiwan could do , why not sporean? that's why.
@szharas, do you mean the lonely road? This place you can find near the MRT Station Woodleigh / N11 , Upper Serangoon Road / Upper Aljunied Road, opposite Woodleigh Close.
@somuchsolittleful it's not only dictatorial govt but also a coward selfish country, u know what I mean if u know the people. their typical is to be nice if they need something from u. the people have totally different character compared with honourable japanese, for instance.
Singapore is one of the economic giants not just of asia but all over the world, even if it is small in terms of it land area. It is also Asia's most modern city which is pretty obvious because of its well designed buildings (architecturally and structurally speaking), their abundance of parks, nature reserves, and tropical greenery. Sinagpore is one of the best countries that i have ever visited.
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Singapore, where you face the death penalty when you get caught with drugs x_X
piano0b 1 week ago
Just came back from Singapore :) Best two weeks ive had in a while
MattBrice1 2 weeks ago
during indonesia anti chinese riot 1998, spore closed door for indo chinese, yet open special program for HK people who we were scared of China take over (program failed to attract large number of HK). sporean are too COWARD or DON'T CARE of indo chinese their supposed to be fellow chinese. Western country even help, even taiwan & china helped in some ways. no matter what your excuse is it was a cowardly selfish act. shamefully selfish people!!
mrryhenboss 2 weeks ago
@mrryhenboss how is it that only spore have got to take the rap? did any of the other nation open their doors to the indo chinese during the riots? why blame only spore? have the indo chinese helped Spore with her struggling independence years and riots in the 60s? Last we checked, Not at all. yes other countries helped, but they were in the form of diplomatic statements thru the media. i find that your bias perception and labeling of spore is simply unfair and far from the truth.
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 WRONG!! during the riot, other countries help not only thru media stetement, but also physically, Aust + other western country extended visa of indo chinese without question, in china & taiwan common people organised some help & charity to escaped indo chinese. what spore gvt or people do? NOTHING, yes NIL! indo chinese only given one month visa on arrival (which was for everyone anyway) after that no extension, despite dangerous situation indo chinese faced if going back.
mrryhenboss 6 days ago
@mrryhenboss about your visa extension, like you said, indonesian were all given one month visas, like everyone else, every nationalities were treated equally as well. no discrimination against the indo chinese. Your arguement that western countries extended the visa without questions, did the govt of the other non western countries done the same? im sure hong kong, taiwan and brunei didnt not. so why blame singapore only?
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 dont' know, but I know that spore made it very difficult even impossible to extend the visa, that's one bad reason already. u talked equal treatment, but that time u opened door for HK, who wished to escape China, that's another double standard. Third, many countries, with or without Chinese population, either govt or private individual or group spoke condemning the racial violence. Again ,what did u do or say? NOTHING, ZERO! from govt to common people.
mrryhenboss 6 days ago
@mrryhenboss i think u mixed up two different thing. Visa is a tempory pass to stay in any country. the policy for HKers is to immigrate to spore. it is Not extending of the visa.
zeph0n12 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss any indonesian chinese is welcome to immigrate to spore like the HKers. it is the chinese indo who only want to extend the visa and not immigrate. how you mixed the two up is a mystery.
zeph0n12 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 yes the rich one, that time, any indo chinese including not so rich tried to escape. the fact was spore govt made it very difficult or impossible to extend stay, knowing that some not so rich was in spore as well. Face the fact that spore didn't want to extend the visa of indo chinese that time, while some other countries extended the visa without question. I don't understand why u don't get this. HK could extend their stay easily that time (not migrant visa)
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 at that time, special HK migrant visa set up exclusively to take HK who wanted to escape china (HK not even in danger that time, just scare mongering about communism). So why set up special program exclusively that time for people who were not facing danger at all. It's all double face, anything as long as it suits the purpose. I'm talking even at that time, tourist visa for HK could be extended easily, u don't know this fact, not a mystery since what u read is all rubbish.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 at that time, special HK migrant visa set up exclusively to take HK who wanted to escape china (HK not even in danger that time, just scare mongering about communism). So why set up special program exclusively that time for people who were not facing danger at all. It's all double face, anything as long as it suits the purpose. I'm talking even at that time, tourist visa for HK could be extended easily, u don't know this fact, not a mystery since what u read is all rubbish.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss den how did all these indonesian chinese end up in singapore?? in 1999, my classes were filled with bambangs, widjayas, hierantos, andres...
zeph0n12 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss just because people u knew choose to escape to singapore, and not brunei, myanmar or thailand, and singapore unfornuately couldnt accomodate the situation quick enough, has now become your target of degrotory comments. how is this fair? singapore did help it ways that the other international community did, just that singapore is and was a small country, anything they do, usually do not get media coverage.
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 at the very least , spore should've condemned racial riot, ar even with the softest tone possible. Did u do that? not even that, not the people not govt, only complete silence, like living in fear of indo retaliation or just being selfish or both.spore the closest neighbour if said anything 'd get coverage, check the history before tallking, does your emperor still allow u to read the truth?
mrryhenboss 6 days ago
@mrryhenboss did i do what? if i could, i not only condemned the riots, i'll condemned u. spore isnt your only neighbour. what emperor are u talking about? u check your history.
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 don't know if u pretend or not, btw, the emperor I was referring too is emperor lee, your imperial dynasty govt., not a mystery since u r trained to think the same.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss who do you think will make the jakarta post front page? china and taiwan helping indonesian chinese, or singapore helping indonesian chinese? no doubt the news attention will be given to bigger and power nations like the ones you mentioned, china, taiwan, australia, singapore will be hustled out.
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 This is not about jakarta post, r u kidding? again, check the historical fact, spore never condemened, said or did anything at all.
mrryhenboss 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 don't try to argue with me, I know personally people affected by this. That time spore opened special migrant visa for HK, why? 1960s indo chinese themselves was in trouble, how can they help? sporean is in a position to help, either govt/people can organise something. I am shocked with the level of ignorance/selfishness of sporean. I am not biased, this is the fact, a shame history of selfish people.
mrryhenboss 6 days ago
@mrryhenboss i disagree. singapore never had any help since her independence. Singapore knows that no one or country owes singapore, singapore doesnt expect any help if they ever run into a crisis. therefore others should expect the same. Singapore is only a tiny island. what you expect from them? singapore themselves are fighting for survivor everyday. will the indonesian or malaysian help singapore? i doubt so. pls stop blaming others for your own short comings.
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 who do u expect to come to your rescue? your master the british? not a chance. I don't expect much from tiny nation, sharing same root with indo chinese, at least said, did small little thing to voice concern 'd be good enough. The fact, if u r still allowed to read the truth there, spore were frightened of helping indo chinese and / or just don't care, actually singled out & kept an eye on indo chinese there made sure they left the country asap.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 I can say this I know many indo chinese & some malaysian too, I must say that yes, if u are in crisis, possibility they'd help u is much bigger that u help them. u just don't think u'd be in crisis, at some point, tiny nation like yours'd need help, u cant run to your british master anymore. Nothing to blame it's just presenting the fact that as history proved that indo chinese shouldn/t expect anything from sporean, as u also shouldn't expect any help from anyone.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss hi, i just check and did some reading up. s'pore did not close it doors to indonesian chinese. Indonesian travelling to Spore is Visa free, meaning you dont need a visa. But back then, probably the Asean Visa free policy have not be in placed, thats why indonesian entering spore will need visa. and as for any country, visa application takes time to process. extending of visa and issuing one is two separate matter. to apply for visa, one need time to process. to extend,is another
zeph0n12 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 I know that 30 day visa given on arrival, I'm talking about difficulty of extending your stay afterward, unlike other countries giving automatic renewal for extension until situation was deemed to be safe to return.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss i also check archives of local newspaper, they carried reports of huge influx of indonesian chinese to malaysia, singapore and taiwan. Singapore papers reported a sharp increase in indo chinese migration to singapore. many indonesian chinese also applied for student pass, and their family went along. just google it and the links will bring you to the archives. did singapore close the doors? u judge.
zeph0n12 5 days ago
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@zeph0n12 again, for people who could afford yes, money, do u know that time many escaped only managed to airport (no turn back) with cash in hand, sold the car /anything at airport to unscrupulous indonesian at low price. They had nothing much, who helped them? those lucky enough went to taiwan/china got more help than in spore. the rich one off course not an issue, they have account in spore bank. helping rich people is not helping, that come with price, anyone can do.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 what I am shocked is that not only the govt but also the people showed no affection at all. Ask yout govt if they gave any ease to indo chinese, like temporary visa extension or anything at all to help! like othes u are also brainwashed by your emperor. U live in the world of selfishness, not caring/knowing that if u are in trouble, others may come to help u.
mrryhenboss 6 days ago
@mrryhenboss pardon me, like what u said, if this is about the singapore govt, den why make statement like singaporeans are cowards and selfish? its unfair to judge and say that singaporeans in general are cowards and selfish. where is your argument dude? why only specifically target s'poreans?
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@mrryhenboss and NO. Sporeans are not ruled by an emperor. and definately not brainwash by the "EMPEROR" ive worked in singapore for more than a decade, what i see S'poreans as, are hardworking and honest people. they are also overly compassionate to the extend that many have exploited their kindness. that said, you talk as if you know singapore very well. perhaps you shouldnt habour any resentment of any country, spend time wisely and start with your own.
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 I have no comment on this, obviously u have been told to say that u are not brainwashed.
mrryhenboss 6 days ago
@mrryhenboss my dad is a indonesian chinese. how did my family ended up in singapore? how is it that half my classmates were indonesian chinese? i dont understand. why is it you keep blaming spore?
zeph0n12 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 u obvously came there recently & from well to do family too, now there is no crisis, off course spore govt accept indo chinese students, that's all about money too. that time 1998, spore didn't think it'd worthed to help or even say anything at all, humanity is not priority. that's why I said it was shameful.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss please, i may not have experience what the indonesian chinese been through, the stuff i read about the riot is terrifying. and i salute the indo chinese. but all im saying is pls dont think that ALL singaporeans are not compassionate, not willing to lend a hand. like u say, the immigration policy are not laid out by the people, so labelling and generallsing is unfair. even certain policy by the singapore gov is unfair to the singaporeans. u cant make everyone happy.
zeph0n12 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 spore govt ruled by people with calculated mind, no compassion ground considered, but sporean commoners should have some their own independent mind.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss i agree, most common singaporeans have independent mind. but the strict laws doesnt permits commoner to express their true opions. commoners can only go with the flow. so pardon them
zeph0n12 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 nothing else to say, govt dictate, people follow, it's the dark history that sporean should learn that compassion & humanity is important part of life, I wish.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
@mrryhenboss i agree. lesson learnt.
zeph0n12 5 days ago
@zeph0n12 are they affraid to act agains the govt wish? like set up a charity to help or protest the violence at the softest tone? if china & taiwan could do , why not sporean? that's why.
mrryhenboss 5 days ago
Why are there so many troublemakers in this world.
MegaBlindsided 1 month ago 3
@MegaBlindsided, this is a good question....
pike10409 1 month ago
could you please tell me where is that place at 3:19? thank you
szharas 1 month ago
@szharas, do you mean the lonely road? This place you can find near the MRT Station Woodleigh / N11 , Upper Serangoon Road / Upper Aljunied Road, opposite Woodleigh Close.
pike10409 1 month ago
@pike10409 exactly. thanks a lot
szharas 1 month ago
@szharas, welcome, but this photograph is around 2 years old and Singapore is always changing.
pike10409 1 month ago
@pike10409 i see, i'll bear that in mind :)
szharas 1 month ago
@pike10409 i see, i'll bear that in mind :)
szharas 1 month ago
hate the music
neoeros 1 month ago
Boring country
MrBurberryMan 1 month ago
@MrBurberryMan it's not only boring but it's a selfish & coward country.
mrryhenboss 2 weeks ago
STAY AWAY FROM SINGAPORE:
Boycott Singapore due to its one party barbaric dictatorial government and human rights violations.
Go to Bangkok, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Taiwan
somuchsolittleful 1 month ago
@somuchsolittleful it's not only dictatorial govt but also a coward selfish country, u know what I mean if u know the people. their typical is to be nice if they need something from u. the people have totally different character compared with honourable japanese, for instance.
mrryhenboss 2 weeks ago
@mrryhenboss I think that I must agree with you
somuchsolittleful 2 weeks ago
@mrryhenboss you should take lessons from the "honourable" Japanese.
zeph0n12 6 days ago
@zeph0n12 yes, that's why I said sporean r coward & selfish.
mrryhenboss 6 days ago
Singapore is boring. But there's no doubt it's doing well (as a country)
Azelf3 1 month ago
I LOVE SINGAPORE!
lerkornankan 2 months ago
Life is too short
kessass83 2 months ago
Singapore is one of the economic giants not just of asia but all over the world, even if it is small in terms of it land area. It is also Asia's most modern city which is pretty obvious because of its well designed buildings (architecturally and structurally speaking), their abundance of parks, nature reserves, and tropical greenery. Sinagpore is one of the best countries that i have ever visited.
iampeeay01 2 months ago
@iampeeay01 I no mean to start a fight, but for singapore, there is only one problem with it, and that problem so called" HONGKONG"
wanglihang 2 months ago
@wanglihang u have never been to singapore... SUCKER!
garysohjy 2 months ago
@garysohjy i fricken live there
MrRandomcom 1 month ago
The pictures of the monkeys and the tents at East Coast Park were a nice touch.
milksomecows 3 months ago