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  • and that people is why i had such love/hate feelings for Joey. Why did she have to lie? She annoyed me so much when she was always trying to protect poor wittle Dawson's feelings all the time. she could have just said thats me and pacey's business. When she got around Dawson I wanted to bitch slap her sometimes. I'm glad P/J ended up together but sometimes I was ready to throw in the towel with them because of Joey's Dawson obsession, just didn't get it at all. Pacey didn't deserve that

  • I can't stand Dawson..that ugly fuck!!!!

  • I adore P&J but I wanted to punch Joey in the f*cking face.

  • all i could say when she said "no, i did not sleep with pacey" was YOU BITCH HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO PACEY???

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  • Sometimes I just want to slap dawson because he can be so manipulative.

  • Douche move Joe!

  • I like Joey and all but that b***h, why is Dawson's feeling more impotant than the man she claims to love and just made love to.

  • OMG! JOE PISSES ME OFF IN THIS EPISODE!

  • dawson really shouldnt have gone there

  • What the fuck Joey... I mean... what the fuck! Why the hell did you have to lie about it!?!?!?! OMG!

  • She was a horrible, disgusting person in this moment.

  • @plumgummistar I wouldnt say that, she is a great person, I honestly think she was thinking it is too soon to say somethings plus its a private matter.

  • I absolutely hate that she lied about Pacey. If I would hav done it I would have told it in a heartbeat, Pacey is FINE and Dawson is already knows that they are together.

  • Joey gets on my nerves with her constant Dawson issues. Pacey could do so much better than her.

  • was dawson still a virgin at this point? 

  • @deaflistener yes he was! He loses it in season 5 to....well I won't spoil it.

  • dang! he was a lil bit too nosy! Thats none of his business! That is a private situation.

  • I cannot believe she lied!! Poor pacey!!!!!

  • A sigh of relief?? Joey is just pissing me of, but you've been dating pacey for nine months now, and you love each other, and Dawson knows that. so...he should be fine with them having sex!! what an asshole

  • If people are truely not ashamed by their actions they do not lie about it. Men chase women and then women have to decide who they want. In order to make a good decision they need to know (mentally) lot's of different guys. Joey should've saved herself because if you really are in love with someone you can wait forever or at least till 21 (you make better decisions as you get older). Pacey has no self control (not perfect bf).

  • The universe is causal, time flows in one direction. Every action you take affects the future and nothing is reversable. Joey made a decision she should accept the consequences not lie. This is where I stop caring about the characters. They're so unromantic and impatient.

  • ......their realtionship is a lie...their friendship is such a one big fat lie!!

  • Joey is a snotty oversensitive bitch

    Dawson is simply an ugly fag

    and I <3 Pacey ;)

    hahhaa

  • For some reason, I remember having seen an episode (or maybe it's part of this one) where Dawsons sees Joey after her losing her virginity and he says to her "There's something different about you" or something to that extent. I was wondering if any of you know how I can find that clip.

  • what kind of girl is Joey? is she ashamed? she loves pacey, pacey loves her, she says she'd tell the truth and then she lies... I'm losing a whole lot of respect for her

  • Yeah, lying to Dawson wasn't going to help things in the long run. I know she was kind of backed into a corner but he would of found out the truth sooner or later. Reather it was Gretchen that told him, Joey finally would confess and she did, Pacey could of let it slip at any time. If Dawson and Joey ever got back together before we know they did, in a few episodes. It was bound to come out. It was just a matter of when. lol Plus, who says Joey's virginity had Dawson's name on it, anyway? lol :)

  • @djgras25 Your last point says it all. Since Dawson put so much faith in the "soulmate" card he always threw on the table whenever convenient, he figured he had first dibs on Joey and would hold her to some kiddie promise they made when neither of them knew what they were talking about. It just went to show that Dawson never inspired Joey to look forward w/ excitement, only to look back with guilt and analyze a "history" that more often than not proved to be played out and over-hyped.

  • Joey and Pacey have been on a boat for 3 month... ALONE and now he is asking???

  • Well he sorta, in a round about way asked when they got back in 401. Well, everyone was asking and she asked him why he wasn't and he said it had the power to potentially kill him (*snort* whatever) and she said it wouldn't kill him. Anyway, he shouldn't have asked. And i hate how Joey let him get away with it.

  • i love this scene between dawson and joey.. really enjoyed dawsons creek watced every episode. brilliant!

  • He shouldn' t have asked, I agree, but she was wrong in answering, she should not have answered (because she told Pacey it is private, he shouldn't blab, now, she did talk about it, she even denies). It must be so terrible to Pacey. She denies, but she let it slip out..when saying that she never thought Pacey would have been the one. So I think he knows too.

  • Dawson shouldn't have asked her that "very personal question." It isn't his business and why would he want to know anyway? He did at least apologize for it in the next episode

  • And another thing...I hate that Dawson looks so relieved when Joey denies sleeping with Pacey. Does it really make that big of a difference? She and Pacey are still crazy in love with each other and they flaunt that love all over school. Does he think that he still has a chance at being her first? I just don't get it.

  • i'm just putting this out there. If you were Joey and you had loved your best friend and had had a relationship with him. Don't forget him probably expecting her to save her viginity for him (thinking they would get back together). Whould you tell him that you had done it with his best friend? Would you want to hurt Dawson. Joey likes to tell people what they want to hear which isn't always a bad thing. Plus she still loves Dawson and always will. I love Joey and I love Pacey together.

  • Well, I certainly wouldn't volunteer the info on my own, but this is different because Dawson flat out asks her. I would either tell the truth and admit that I'd slept with Pacey, or I'd tell him that it's none of his business. I wouldn't deny it though. It's just wrong to do that to Pacey, and Joey knows it would hurt Pacey if he ever found out that she lied to Dawson. If Dawson is man enough to ask, then he's man enough to know the truth.

  • i think a lot of you guys are saying dawson has no right to know, but the way i think of it is Dawson is Joey's best friend. Most people in general, whether their best friend is male or female at least tell them they've lost their virginity. So, I think since dawson is so close to joey, she should've told him, romantic history or not!

  • Its Joey decision to tell Dawson. She shouldnt have lied to Dawson thou

  • i'm really hating Joey right now!! I mean I hated her before this episode for the way she always treats Pacey but right now she just so freakin' made me angry!!

  • i love the background music :D

  • He guilted her into saying if she did or didn't

    But I was [sort of] surprised that she lied

  • I wouldn't have lied....I would have said yes. but also i wouldn't want to hurt dawson (my best friend) and I probably would have made sure the conversation didn't go there. joey shouldn't have lied though, since she is supposed to be anti-liar and if she really loves pacey she should have been true to him

  • I can't believe she just straight up lied to him that is so wrong

  • Yeah but it's none of Dawson's business what Joey did or did not do with her boyfriend, Pacey. If Dawson really wanted Joey has his girlfriend he shouldn't had threat her like he did in the previous season

  • fucking hate joey .....whore

  • You know, as much as I hated Joey's response to Dawson, because I love Pacey so much, I understand where the girl is coming from. She loved Pacey, but she just didn't want to hurt Dawson.

  • ahhh it's not just that she denied it.. it's that what she said before kinda made it seem like she was still saving herself for stupid dawson! and she said it with a smile on her face! it's so horrible :( i don't understand :((

  • Clearly the writers wanted to throw a bone to the Dawson/Joey fans. I also hated when Dawson breathed a sigh of relief when she said it. You dick. She can have sex with her 'BOYFRIEND' if she wants to. Ugh!!!!

  • @jennhunt1996 Yeah, but he loves her, so I guess it was hard not to.

  • GOD, Dawson/Joey were just.......Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    Pacey/Joey Fan Always

    ITA, it's none of Dawson't business. He's such an ass.

  • Yeah, it is none of his business. And the way he acts! UGH! Like somehow he has the right to know these things. Hate hate hate Dawson!

  • Actually, she answered YES before she said no by her rambling about sex. Dawson just didn't realize.

  • she shouldn't have lied

  • do u noe wat wud hav been funny wen joey was like wat if i was to ask if u slept wit gretchen..den my answer wud be no...she shud instantly been lik well my answer is yea..lol..haha den we shud see dawson's face..lol..pacey nd joey rock!

  • ugh Dawson is an ass.

  • First what kind of friend goes and ask if his friend of the opposite sexe sleep with his ex-best friend

    And I know it was wrong from Joey to lie but it is none of Dawson bisness. It's not like they are going out or anything and what she does with Pacey as nothing to do with Dawson.

    If I was in Joey's place I would have lied too. It was the best way to go.

    Too Dawson "Mind your own bisness! And if I did what are you gonna do about it! Were just FRIENDS remember!"

  • Agree 100%

  • If I didn't know the truth of what he thought, I would be sure he knew she was lying... but that's just me.

  • Sometimes you take more comfort in what you wanna hear.

  • ugh lying bitch... smh

    nosey ass dawson

  • I really disappointed of Joey in this episode. And I really do not like Dowson. He is so lame. He should not ask that and she should not answer that.

  • agreed, i wanted her to tell him the truth coz i hate him and id love him to be jealous and know that pacey was with her and not him!! hahahh im evil!!! i wish wish wish she told him coz he had the nerve the ask her...he should never ask her that nomatter how close they are...

  • Dawson shouldn't have asked. And I understand her not wanting to hurt Dawson's feelings but she should've taken into account her BOYFRIEND'S feelings. I dont see how she thought lying would help anything.

  • yeah me too, this season Joey is a lot more annoying as hell...why on earth is she always terrified bout what will dawson feel?!!!..OMG she had a very wonderful boyfriend, and she's in love, sweet Lord. No matter how much it hurts, she should at least be honest, geessshhh no wonder Pacey got all pissed up and exhausted, she never stand and fight for their relationship..Pacey ALWAYS does:DD

    maybe it's time she should make a fight to make their relationship work this time:-((

  • I can understand her lying, but why couldn't Old Joey have reappeared and told him to FUCK OFF? I can see Joey getting more defensive and angry, I'm really surprised she didn't.

  • @argtunu Exactly...OLD JOEY woulda told his ass to shut the fuck up. xD it woulda been awesome! >_<

  • he should mind his own goddamn beez wax!!!

  • Poor Dawson. He's annoying but doesn't deserve that. I wouldn't like to be played like that and react like a gullible idiot.

    When did he eventually find out, though?

  • I feel Everyone has a soulmate but I don't nessisarly think that is the person you should absolutly be with...I think a soulmate is more of a friend...if you think about it liek jack and jen dawson and joey...

    PJ FOREVER!

  • soo cute

  • she lied because she didnt want to hurt him

  • Yeah but she never has a problem hurting Pacey though. Her boyfriend. The one who gave up everything and is perfect for her. She can hurt him instead.

  • @AoibheannStateira You are so right. Pacey's feelings were always shoved to the side so that Joey could sort out, for the thousandth time, her history with Dawson. This lie was the beginning of the end for my P/J love. The chemistry would always remain, but I walked away from the series thinking that Dawson, and especially Pacey, were way too good for what Joey had to offer.

  • Joey and Dawsons's relationship will always be a friendship that's it they always took their connection way too seriously and reached that point of no return. Kinda of like the relationship girls have with their gay guy friends..

  • reply to prettybaby122 i'm not sure if you even wtach the show i can truly say that pacey and joey had more fun 2getha in "double date2 thn joey and dawson did eva. d and j are too alike tht theyve got nthin to give to each other thts why they argue bout stupid things

  • I was always pissed at her for lying about it too.

  • me, tooooo!! AUGH, that really pissed me off. poor pacey was so hurt when he found out. :( it makes me feel so horrible. :(

  • I have realized that they have a connection. the connection that they have is more than a friendship it is like a soulmate love type thing. Oh yeah and Dawson has a square head

  • well he was right but if she wants to keep it private she can.

  • Liar! I hate Joey for not telling him that...errrr! SO RUDE... she could have said it's private or told THE TRUTH! But to lie so Dawson doesn't think badly of her..errr BAD JOEY

  • I don't understand all the lying to Dawson... he clearly knows Pacey and Joey are together at this point!

  • nah i dont think so

  • Hey I've never seen that episode.  I can't believe she lied to Dawson.

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