This republican piglet Hellary Rotten Clinton has to finally face the music! It's OVER for her and her shady campaign. Her top people in her campaign are jumping ship daily. Why? Because they KNOW how dreadful and dishonest she truly is. Obama has not lost a single one to her. Think about that! NOT ONE!!!
There are knowns and unknowns, Hillary is a known. Republicans are comforted by the fact we know what she's about, even if we disagree. The unpredicablity of McCain is unsettling. McCain has also "backstabbed" us on the immigration issue, we have long memories.
But Bad Hillary can't go away. You have to have the Hillary who says Obama is "elitist" and "demeaning," and you have to keep running ads that portray him as the guy who won't be able to protect us from the Great Depression, Pearl Harbor, long lines at the gas pump, Osama bin Laden or ringing telephones.
And speaking of Osama bin Laden, isn't he a Muslim? And didn't Bad Hillary say Obama was not a Muslim "as far as I know"? Keep up that subtle stuff. It is gold
Now Annie Oakly has her guns set on IRAN and wiping them out if they lay a finger on Israel....TRIGGER HAPPY????? She is WORSE than BUSH on a good day! GOOD GOD people!!! Can't you see her for what she truly is???
Read the endorsement of Obama by Michael Moore on his blog!!! Shameful Pillary had Rev. Wright at the White House after Bill cheated on her!!! Obama has the grace and intelligence not to have thrown that mud in her friggin EVIL face!!!! God she is a MONSTER!!!!!
HILLARY'S RESUME OF EXPERIENCE 1) I Served on the Board of UNION HATING Wal-Mart But I am Pro Union. 2) I voted for the war in Iraq But I am against Iraq War 3) I Voted for Kyle-Lieberman to extend the war to Iran But I will bring soldiers back home in 60 days 4) I will provide universal health insurance But I will force you to buy it to boost insurance company's profits. 5) I Supported NAFTA But now I oppose NAFTA CONTINUES...
CLINTON FAILED TO PROTECT AMERICA FROM 9/11 During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him." But that wasn't exactly true. By 1996, the 9/11 mastermind had already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by prosecutors in New York.
1975 Hillary defended a pediphile accused of raping a 12yr old girl. In court, Hillary aggressively accused this child of wanting to have consentual sex with this older man, using her background in child development to get her client a reduced charge. Imagine the psychological damage that this does to a child! It's traumatic enough to be raped, but to be accused of wanting to be raped is sickening! That child is still traumatized to this very day! If that was my child,I'd kill that bitch myself!
GOOGLE: Sen. Clinton accepts donations from troubled firm
Posted on Friday, February 29, 2008 3:50 PM PT
Filed Under: Politics
By Lisa Myers and Jim Popkin, NBC News
Sen. Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show.
27-year-old Hillary was fired from her position as an assistant general council for the judiciary committee during the Watergate investigation. Zeifman said in an interview last week. "She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality." Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation.
HILLARY CLINTON ON SOUTHERN WORKING CLASS WHITES IN 1995:
"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."
BILL CLINTON FLASHBACK:
"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death," Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.
Republicans don't vote for Hillary unless they're trying to cause trouble. It's well known they only truthfully vote for Obama because the news says so.
The problem with Hillary is NOT that she is a woman running for President....the problem with Billary is that she is a pathological LIAR!! She is funded by shady financial backers and would sell her daughters soul to the devil to become President. YES, she's THAT evil and corrupt! STOP this MONSTER in her tracks and let's send her packing!!! Too many demons in this Witches closet. ugh!!!!
I hope the last interviewee is indicative. He sounds a lot like my dad to me. My dad isn't going to vote on economic disparity, but he is a pragmatic man who views the modern Repubs as being impractical idealogues. He is for withdrawal from Iraq and sickened by McCain's political compromises, esp. to religious conservatives.
I'm a Republican who's supporting Hillary this time around. However, if she loses the nomination - which I doubt she will (more and more) - I won't be voting at all. McCain simply doesn't get it as far as i am concerned and Obama and his 27K contributions to Trinity have left a bad taste in my mouth. Am I the only one who's seen the MANSION Rev. Wright is building in a rich, white neighborhood?! So much for PRACTICING WHAT YOU PREACH!!
Google Hillary Clinton scandal to see why republicans are voting for her in hopes she is the nominee. They can toss mud at her faster than she can wash it off.
I agree with you there she definitely has baggage but at least hers has already been aired - no news there. Obama on the other hand has been on the circuit (so to speak) for a whole 15 mins & already has given Republicans enough ammunition to blow him out of the campaign water: i.e. Rezko, Weather Underground, Rev. Wright, bitter middle class comments etc). This is why I'm not half as worried about Hillary. I am however about someone who won't pledge allegiance to the flag or where a flag pin!
Very little has been aired. Monica stole the headlines from weightier subjects. Not one of my democrat even remembers how close Bill came to indited for treason for Chinagate. Luckily for him 5 witnesses fled the country and 115 took the 5th. Seriously google hillary clinton scandal. I think there were around 70.
Why are people so upset with Rev. Wright living well? As long as he has worked hard why cant he live well? if the issue is with him living around "rich white people", that can be easily explained. You see, the areas that are primarily black are zoned in a fasion where the houses can only be a certain square footage. Therefore, he cannot build a large house in those areas.
yutu, Don't even start with your racist crap. As a Repube I'm sure you are just peachy with Falwell's mansion, Billy Graham's, Oral Robert's, the Baker's etc.
could it be any easier to say or do? Don't count him down or out. His influence can be felt all over the political spectrum. For those who think McCain has it locked and the Rep convention will be a cake walk... Not so fast buddy. This is getting exciting. The reps at the local and state level all over America are breaking state and party laws to stop Ron Paul. That shows fear my freind. smell it and revel in it.
Blame Hillary for the division. Not only does she divide the country she is dividing the Democratic Party. The only reason republicans will vote for Hillary now will be so she can win because that is the only change a Republican has at office, going against Hypocrite Hillary.
Obama does alot of talking but never says anything. He is always talking about change but has no real plan. If you want to see a presidential candidate worthy of your vote check out Hillary Clinton's platform. A 35 year record of fighting for the working class, women, GLBT community and those who do not have a voice in America.
The first guy says he voted for Bill Clinton to get univ health care in 1992. HRC then messed it up. So this guy wants to vote again this time for the Clinton who actually bungled his particular pet-policy the first time around? I don't understand that logic. If you bring your car to a mechanic and he gives it back to you unrepaired would you then go to the assistant who actually worked on your car the first time around with no results, when there is another mechanic you could go to?
What else he say? He doesn't like negative campaigning and getting out of Iraq is his top priority. Hmmm, let's see, I think the kitchen sink candidate who voted for Iraq and Iran maybe shouldn't be his first choice LOL Anyway.
Btw the surprise ending didn't surprise me quite as much as the title suggests it should have. He's not the first Rep who has woken up to the divisiveness of the Bush meltdown.
hopefully this trend continues when more repubs realize that the right are reactionary while the dems are progressives with actual solutions for everybody.
i'd recommend a sales tax. a 1 or 2% tax for all trade and sales transactions. hell, make it 0.5%.
considering everywhere from the raw materials all the way up to the final reseller or retailer, this tax would practically go unnoticed and would be funneled directly to a slush fund for spending. If the US Government can reign in the IRS's rates that would be a bonus and would work well with the universal healthcare both democrats are suggesting... could be possible.
Sales tax are you kidding? When they put more emphasis on property tax then we'll have a tax that is proportional to wealth. Sales tax is a lousy idea.
tilo: GDP is ~ $14 trillion, 70% is consumer spending, so you have a base of about $10 trillion. 1% sales tax would give you $10 billion. Currently Medicaid and Medicare expenses amount to $500 bn. So I don't think 1% sales tax would pay for univ health care. Sales tax is a viable idea, but be honest about the numbers.
1% wouldn't cut it.
Also sales tax may create spending disincentives, which could 1. reduce tax income and 2. hurt small businesses/growth. But as I said it is a viable idea.
I think what you are talking about is known as a value-added tax (VAT). These are pretty popular among economists because they minimize the market distortions caused by taxes.
I think what you are talking about is known as a value-added tax (VAT). These are pretty popular among economists because they minimize the market distortions caused by taxes.
the whole tax issue is out of control.. if you look at tax per-capita, europeans pay about 2.5 grand more than Americans, but have dozens of social services, their public schools are better, their roads are in good shape, and their free health care system competes with ours paid healthcare.. i always try to vote for people who wont increase taxes because they are not making good use of the taxes we already pay
There is so much fraud, waste, and abuse in federal spending. The defense budget and the interest on the federal debt are killing us. The cost of taking care of the elderly is externalized from the health care system into medicare. We would be better off with nationalized health insurance.
j0hnwilliams, I hear you on fraud and abuse in gov spending. That's a big issue. In 2003 Rumsfeld couldn't account for $2.3 trill of the defense budget. (tinyurl . com / 6f82l) Last year several billions in cash got lost in a plane to Iraq. This sort of thing happens all the time (often unnoticed) because of a lack of acountability. That's why Obama's focus on ethics and transparency/accountability is important. The bi-partisan Coburn-Obama transparency bill was an important step.
The Coburn-Obama transparency bill creates a searchable database for citizens and journalists to track government spending. This makes spending transparent and creates pressure on agencies to account for their numbers more accurately. Obama has described the issues of ethics and accountability as key elements in his vision to change the way Washington operates and to make it work for the people. It's not an issue that excites voters in the current campaign, but one that is important I think.
I don't find anything surprising about it. It indeed is time to shrink the haves and have nots. I don't think the Republicans will do a better job than the Democrats.
Republicans are not one step ahead. They are watching, still trying to find something which will cause outrage among the voters so John McCain will become viable. This time around, it's not gonna happen. If John McCain doesn't get a coherent program together, he is gonna take a serious beating at the polls, because America is NOT in good shape: Bush - bad leadership - Economy - In Recession - War in Iraq - No Health Care - Foreclosures - Gas prices up 200% - We know Obama represents real CHANGE.
I had to listen to that a few times to get it right. That sounds like the solution we are looking for....Unequivocal unity amongst the people, regardless of race, class or religion.
To the first guy who considers voting for HRC's mandated health care. A mandate to pay premiums to private insurers is a sure bet to raise premiums. This whole "broadening-the-cost-base argument" that they are trying to sell it as is an absolutely horrendous fallacy. See explanation below. The decision about affordability of the plans must be left to the people for economic reasons. Also read below what her former advisers have to say about HRC's first health care debacle in 1992. Wake UP!
In as few words as possible: HRC's plan will NOT regulate prices for 2 reasons: it involves private insurance companies (HRC's lobbyist buddies) and a mandate (a gift to her lobbyist buddies). The argument that a wider base lowers prices is a fundamental economic FALLACY, that assumes that private businesses will lower their prices if they can lower their costs. WRONG! Private businesses are in it for profit MAXIMIZATION. Their price is strictly determind by WHAT THEY CAN GET!
A private business that can find a customer paying $100 for a product will demand $100 whether their costs are $50, $40 or $0.01. Consumers can vote about the price of the products with their demand, i.e. the choice to buy a product or not. By putting the mandate into the health care plan HRC cuts out this choice for the customers. It's a free ride for the insurance companies and the premiums are negotiated only between govt and insurers, using taxes and wages to pay for it.
Premiums will go up and clients cannot vote for lower prices by refusing to buy the programs. The question of whether or not the plan is affordable MUST be left to the people. If you want a mandate, you have to go the way of government programs such as Medicaid/Medicare who are NOT PROFIT MAXIMIZING. Involve private insurers and the mandate will drive premiums up.
HRC's WH schedules show that after her health care debacle, she was suspended from any active role in the WH.
Berkeley economist Bradford Delong from HRC's health care team said:
"Hillary Clinton needs to be kept [..] away from the White House for the rest of her life. [..]
She had neither the grasp of policy substance, the managerial skills, nor the political smarts to do the job [..]. And she wasn't smart enough to realize that she [..] had to get out of the Health Care Czar role QUICKLY."
"When junior members of the economic team told her that the Congressional Budget Office would say such-and-such, she told them (wrongly) that her conversations with CBO head Robert Reischauer had already fixed that"
This guy says he voted for Bill Clinton to get health care in 1992. He didn't get it. So he wants to vote again this time for the Clinton who actually bungled this particular policy the first time around? I don't understand that logic. If you bring your car to a mechanic and he gives it back to you unrepaired with the motor still not running, but he charges you an 8 year waiting time, are you going to give your car to that same mechanic again when there is another mechanic you could go to?
IF the PASTOR really "FOOLED" YOU FOR 20 YEARS !
How can we trust YOUR JUDGMENT ?
YOU STILL FOLLOW The doctrine of Trinity
F5xxxvi 3 years ago
This republican piglet Hellary Rotten Clinton has to finally face the music! It's OVER for her and her shady campaign. Her top people in her campaign are jumping ship daily. Why? Because they KNOW how dreadful and dishonest she truly is. Obama has not lost a single one to her. Think about that! NOT ONE!!!
STOP this MONSTER DESTROYER!!!!
chuckinla 3 years ago
That's why I've ALWAYS said that her supposedly "sky-high" negatives are irrelevant, but nobody listens.
HILLARY 08'
2025DPlaza 3 years ago
There are knowns and unknowns, Hillary is a known. Republicans are comforted by the fact we know what she's about, even if we disagree. The unpredicablity of McCain is unsettling. McCain has also "backstabbed" us on the immigration issue, we have long memories.
privatelifer 3 years ago
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But Bad Hillary can't go away. You have to have the Hillary who says Obama is "elitist" and "demeaning," and you have to keep running ads that portray him as the guy who won't be able to protect us from the Great Depression, Pearl Harbor, long lines at the gas pump, Osama bin Laden or ringing telephones.
And speaking of Osama bin Laden, isn't he a Muslim? And didn't Bad Hillary say Obama was not a Muslim "as far as I know"? Keep up that subtle stuff. It is gold
Pillary is a pig!!!
chuckinla 3 years ago
My My lots of aggression, .....relax breathe
sjsc76 3 years ago
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Now Annie Oakly has her guns set on IRAN and wiping them out if they lay a finger on Israel....TRIGGER HAPPY????? She is WORSE than BUSH on a good day! GOOD GOD people!!! Can't you see her for what she truly is???
a M O N S T E R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chuckinla 3 years ago
Ron Paul 08!!!!!! and one more !
deepmindquest1 3 years ago
Hillary, Hell no. You have to be Old as john McCain or uneducated to vote for her!!!!
OBAMA 2008
industryfinest 3 years ago
my words exactly.
fubar28 3 years ago
Read the endorsement of Obama by Michael Moore on his blog!!! Shameful Pillary had Rev. Wright at the White House after Bill cheated on her!!! Obama has the grace and intelligence not to have thrown that mud in her friggin EVIL face!!!! God she is a MONSTER!!!!!
chuckinla 3 years ago 2
Moore who said Hillary's health plan is better than Obama's?
Not voting on issues got us Bush.
Don't make the same mistake again, although i doubt anyone else could be as bad, except for another Bush.
That was directed at you Jeb or any other idiot from that gene pool.
MertensCW 3 years ago
OBAMA '08 !!!!!!!
Thesouthman 3 years ago
OBAMA/OSAMA
vallichayan 3 years ago
OBAMA '08 !!!!!!!
Thesouthman 3 years ago
OBAMA '08 !!!!!!!
Thesouthman 3 years ago
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OBAMA/OSAMA
vallichayan 3 years ago
OBAMA '08 !!!!!!!
Thesouthman 3 years ago
OBAMA/ OSAMA
vallichayan 3 years ago
Hillary. Plain and Simple.
ClinicalPsych55 3 years ago
CivilProtectionMan 3 years ago
6) I am a strong woman and a fighter
But I cry and complain when I don't win
7) I can stand the republican heat
But I cannot stand the Democratic heat
8) I am vetted and experienced
But I have no clue how to run a presidential campaign.
9) I hate bush
But I try to copy his politics of fear and division
10) I will be fine because I am on both sides of the issues
But the question is will you be fine?
CivilProtectionMan 3 years ago
CLINTON FAILED TO PROTECT AMERICA FROM 9/11 During a February 2002 speech, Clinton explained that he turned down an offer from Sudan for bin Laden's extradition to the U.S., saying, "At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him." But that wasn't exactly true. By 1996, the 9/11 mastermind had already been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing by prosecutors in New York.
CivilProtectionMan 3 years ago
1975 Hillary defended a pediphile accused of raping a 12yr old girl. In court, Hillary aggressively accused this child of wanting to have consentual sex with this older man, using her background in child development to get her client a reduced charge. Imagine the psychological damage that this does to a child! It's traumatic enough to be raped, but to be accused of wanting to be raped is sickening! That child is still traumatized to this very day! If that was my child,I'd kill that bitch myself!
CivilProtectionMan 3 years ago
WOMENS RIGHTS? HILLARY'S A SELLOUT!
GOOGLE: Sen. Clinton accepts donations from troubled firm
Posted on Friday, February 29, 2008 3:50 PM PT
Filed Under: Politics
By Lisa Myers and Jim Popkin, NBC News
Sen. Hillary Clinton has declined to return $170,000 in campaign contributions from individuals at a company accused of widespread sexual harassment, and whose CEO is a disbarred lawyer with a criminal record, federal campaign records show.
PLEASE READ THE FULL ARTICLE, THANK-YOU!
CivilProtectionMan 3 years ago
HILLARY FIRED FOR LIES AND UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR!
27-year-old Hillary was fired from her position as an assistant general council for the judiciary committee during the Watergate investigation. Zeifman said in an interview last week. "She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality." Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation.
CivilProtectionMan 3 years ago
HILLARY CLINTON ON SOUTHERN WORKING CLASS WHITES IN 1995:
"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."
BILL CLINTON FLASHBACK:
"The reason (George H. W. Bush's tactic) works so well now is that you have all these economically insecure white people who are scared to death," Clinton was quoted saying by the Los Angeles Times in September 1991.
CivilProtectionMan 3 years ago
Republicans don't vote for Hillary unless they're trying to cause trouble. It's well known they only truthfully vote for Obama because the news says so.
That was sarcasm btw.
MertensCW 3 years ago 2
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The problem with Hillary is NOT that she is a woman running for President....the problem with Billary is that she is a pathological LIAR!! She is funded by shady financial backers and would sell her daughters soul to the devil to become President. YES, she's THAT evil and corrupt! STOP this MONSTER in her tracks and let's send her packing!!! Too many demons in this Witches closet. ugh!!!!
chuckinla 3 years ago
I hope the last interviewee is indicative. He sounds a lot like my dad to me. My dad isn't going to vote on economic disparity, but he is a pragmatic man who views the modern Repubs as being impractical idealogues. He is for withdrawal from Iraq and sickened by McCain's political compromises, esp. to religious conservatives.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
Wow! I thought I just had a stroke...
Well done...
Bolgernow 3 years ago
I'm a Republican who's supporting Hillary this time around. However, if she loses the nomination - which I doubt she will (more and more) - I won't be voting at all. McCain simply doesn't get it as far as i am concerned and Obama and his 27K contributions to Trinity have left a bad taste in my mouth. Am I the only one who's seen the MANSION Rev. Wright is building in a rich, white neighborhood?! So much for PRACTICING WHAT YOU PREACH!!
Yutuberdude 3 years ago
Google Hillary Clinton scandal to see why republicans are voting for her in hopes she is the nominee. They can toss mud at her faster than she can wash it off.
crazycatfguy 3 years ago
I agree with you there she definitely has baggage but at least hers has already been aired - no news there. Obama on the other hand has been on the circuit (so to speak) for a whole 15 mins & already has given Republicans enough ammunition to blow him out of the campaign water: i.e. Rezko, Weather Underground, Rev. Wright, bitter middle class comments etc). This is why I'm not half as worried about Hillary. I am however about someone who won't pledge allegiance to the flag or where a flag pin!
Yutuberdude 3 years ago
Very little has been aired. Monica stole the headlines from weightier subjects. Not one of my democrat even remembers how close Bill came to indited for treason for Chinagate. Luckily for him 5 witnesses fled the country and 115 took the 5th. Seriously google hillary clinton scandal. I think there were around 70.
crazycatfguy 3 years ago
Why are people so upset with Rev. Wright living well? As long as he has worked hard why cant he live well? if the issue is with him living around "rich white people", that can be easily explained. You see, the areas that are primarily black are zoned in a fasion where the houses can only be a certain square footage. Therefore, he cannot build a large house in those areas.
warrencray 3 years ago
Oh is that it? Thanks for clearing that up!
Yutuberdude 3 years ago
yutu, Don't even start with your racist crap. As a Repube I'm sure you are just peachy with Falwell's mansion, Billy Graham's, Oral Robert's, the Baker's etc.
Pure unadulterated Bigotry is what you're about.
shaire99 3 years ago
okay, Oprah...save it for Rev. Wright.
Yutuberdude 3 years ago
RON PAUL
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could it be any easier to say or do? Don't count him down or out. His influence can be felt all over the political spectrum. For those who think McCain has it locked and the Rep convention will be a cake walk... Not so fast buddy. This is getting exciting. The reps at the local and state level all over America are breaking state and party laws to stop Ron Paul. That shows fear my freind. smell it and revel in it.
trauts01 3 years ago
once again voting against their own interests...when will you guys learn?
yelobmx 3 years ago 2
I'd rather not have had the reporter's personal commentary at the end-- otherwise this was a very nice bit of reporting.
meanelvis 3 years ago
Blame Hillary for the division. Not only does she divide the country she is dividing the Democratic Party. The only reason republicans will vote for Hillary now will be so she can win because that is the only change a Republican has at office, going against Hypocrite Hillary.
gallomex13 3 years ago
Centrebet odds Obama $1.90, McCain $2.75, Hillary $5. (Pity US residents are not allowed due to US law)
776281 3 years ago
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Obama does alot of talking but never says anything. He is always talking about change but has no real plan. If you want to see a presidential candidate worthy of your vote check out Hillary Clinton's platform. A 35 year record of fighting for the working class, women, GLBT community and those who do not have a voice in America.
mnboi87 3 years ago
nice vid
BforBryan 3 years ago
i can belive this fool voting mccain
He will be drafted and sent to fuckin iran
RomeoMD25 3 years ago 5
lol
bow2jade 3 years ago
great vid as always guys!
waynefoolx 3 years ago
The first guy says he voted for Bill Clinton to get univ health care in 1992. HRC then messed it up. So this guy wants to vote again this time for the Clinton who actually bungled his particular pet-policy the first time around? I don't understand that logic. If you bring your car to a mechanic and he gives it back to you unrepaired would you then go to the assistant who actually worked on your car the first time around with no results, when there is another mechanic you could go to?
vertigate 3 years ago 5
What else he say? He doesn't like negative campaigning and getting out of Iraq is his top priority. Hmmm, let's see, I think the kitchen sink candidate who voted for Iraq and Iran maybe shouldn't be his first choice LOL Anyway.
Btw the surprise ending didn't surprise me quite as much as the title suggests it should have. He's not the first Rep who has woken up to the divisiveness of the Bush meltdown.
vertigate 3 years ago
no this is bs. skewed media bias. NObama'08!
astro104 3 years ago
holy crap.. a Republiacn broached the subject of Class. times are a-changin'
historywillabsolve 3 years ago
hopefully this trend continues when more repubs realize that the right are reactionary while the dems are progressives with actual solutions for everybody.
runswithscissorsalot 3 years ago
yikes' i didnt expect that answer... im an obamacan but i am concern that taxing the middle class in any way might hurt America..
toyracers 3 years ago
i'd recommend a sales tax. a 1 or 2% tax for all trade and sales transactions. hell, make it 0.5%.
considering everywhere from the raw materials all the way up to the final reseller or retailer, this tax would practically go unnoticed and would be funneled directly to a slush fund for spending. If the US Government can reign in the IRS's rates that would be a bonus and would work well with the universal healthcare both democrats are suggesting... could be possible.
tillo2008 3 years ago
Sales tax are you kidding? When they put more emphasis on property tax then we'll have a tax that is proportional to wealth. Sales tax is a lousy idea.
j0hnwi11iams 3 years ago
tilo: GDP is ~ $14 trillion, 70% is consumer spending, so you have a base of about $10 trillion. 1% sales tax would give you $10 billion. Currently Medicaid and Medicare expenses amount to $500 bn. So I don't think 1% sales tax would pay for univ health care. Sales tax is a viable idea, but be honest about the numbers.
1% wouldn't cut it.
Also sales tax may create spending disincentives, which could 1. reduce tax income and 2. hurt small businesses/growth. But as I said it is a viable idea.
vertigate 3 years ago
correction: $100 bn from 1% sales tax. But that is not taking into account possibly reduced spending.
vertigate 3 years ago
I think what you are talking about is known as a value-added tax (VAT). These are pretty popular among economists because they minimize the market distortions caused by taxes.
jamesrmaclean 3 years ago
I think what you are talking about is known as a value-added tax (VAT). These are pretty popular among economists because they minimize the market distortions caused by taxes.
jamesrmaclean 3 years ago
the whole tax issue is out of control.. if you look at tax per-capita, europeans pay about 2.5 grand more than Americans, but have dozens of social services, their public schools are better, their roads are in good shape, and their free health care system competes with ours paid healthcare.. i always try to vote for people who wont increase taxes because they are not making good use of the taxes we already pay
toyracers 3 years ago
There is so much fraud, waste, and abuse in federal spending. The defense budget and the interest on the federal debt are killing us. The cost of taking care of the elderly is externalized from the health care system into medicare. We would be better off with nationalized health insurance.
j0hnwi11iams 3 years ago
j0hnwilliams, I hear you on fraud and abuse in gov spending. That's a big issue. In 2003 Rumsfeld couldn't account for $2.3 trill of the defense budget. (tinyurl . com / 6f82l) Last year several billions in cash got lost in a plane to Iraq. This sort of thing happens all the time (often unnoticed) because of a lack of acountability. That's why Obama's focus on ethics and transparency/accountability is important. The bi-partisan Coburn-Obama transparency bill was an important step.
vertigate 3 years ago
The Coburn-Obama transparency bill creates a searchable database for citizens and journalists to track government spending. This makes spending transparent and creates pressure on agencies to account for their numbers more accurately. Obama has described the issues of ethics and accountability as key elements in his vision to change the way Washington operates and to make it work for the people. It's not an issue that excites voters in the current campaign, but one that is important I think.
vertigate 3 years ago 2
I don't find anything surprising about it. It indeed is time to shrink the haves and have nots. I don't think the Republicans will do a better job than the Democrats.
haobio 3 years ago
Republicans are not one step ahead. They are watching, still trying to find something which will cause outrage among the voters so John McCain will become viable. This time around, it's not gonna happen. If John McCain doesn't get a coherent program together, he is gonna take a serious beating at the polls, because America is NOT in good shape: Bush - bad leadership - Economy - In Recession - War in Iraq - No Health Care - Foreclosures - Gas prices up 200% - We know Obama represents real CHANGE.
1962verbodivino 3 years ago 2
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LOL nice ending statement
edwin012290 3 years ago
I had to listen to that a few times to get it right. That sounds like the solution we are looking for....Unequivocal unity amongst the people, regardless of race, class or religion.
hunterswine 3 years ago
Translation:
"I voted Republican because they
tricked me into believing I was
one of the HAVES.
"But now my home is in foreclosure,
my kid's too dumb to get a scholarship,
the wife needs a hysterectomy,
and I'm about to become a HAVE NOT"
dogstar7 3 years ago 6
FUcking brilliant
papichulo9022 3 years ago
Thats why I'm voting Dem. this time around.
doug47130 3 years ago
oooh third viewer. very intersting. What i really want to know is why would any one vote for McCain.
Kookimon 3 years ago 3
Yes indeed something did change!! I couldn't believe that last guy's comment!
gobigorange99 3 years ago
Hillary Clinton FTW !!!
idiotwind75 3 years ago
hilary sucks
xXxReplicatexXx 3 years ago 2
To the first guy who considers voting for HRC's mandated health care. A mandate to pay premiums to private insurers is a sure bet to raise premiums. This whole "broadening-the-cost-base argument" that they are trying to sell it as is an absolutely horrendous fallacy. See explanation below. The decision about affordability of the plans must be left to the people for economic reasons. Also read below what her former advisers have to say about HRC's first health care debacle in 1992. Wake UP!
vertigate 3 years ago
In as few words as possible: HRC's plan will NOT regulate prices for 2 reasons: it involves private insurance companies (HRC's lobbyist buddies) and a mandate (a gift to her lobbyist buddies). The argument that a wider base lowers prices is a fundamental economic FALLACY, that assumes that private businesses will lower their prices if they can lower their costs. WRONG! Private businesses are in it for profit MAXIMIZATION. Their price is strictly determind by WHAT THEY CAN GET!
vertigate 3 years ago 2
A private business that can find a customer paying $100 for a product will demand $100 whether their costs are $50, $40 or $0.01. Consumers can vote about the price of the products with their demand, i.e. the choice to buy a product or not. By putting the mandate into the health care plan HRC cuts out this choice for the customers. It's a free ride for the insurance companies and the premiums are negotiated only between govt and insurers, using taxes and wages to pay for it.
vertigate 3 years ago 2
Premiums will go up and clients cannot vote for lower prices by refusing to buy the programs. The question of whether or not the plan is affordable MUST be left to the people. If you want a mandate, you have to go the way of government programs such as Medicaid/Medicare who are NOT PROFIT MAXIMIZING. Involve private insurers and the mandate will drive premiums up.
--> Mandate + private insurance companies = skyrocketing premiums.
Tax payers and clients foot the bill.
vertigate 3 years ago 2
HRC's WH schedules show that after her health care debacle, she was suspended from any active role in the WH.
Berkeley economist Bradford Delong from HRC's health care team said:
"Hillary Clinton needs to be kept [..] away from the White House for the rest of her life. [..]
She had neither the grasp of policy substance, the managerial skills, nor the political smarts to do the job [..]. And she wasn't smart enough to realize that she [..] had to get out of the Health Care Czar role QUICKLY."
vertigate 3 years ago 2
"When junior members of the economic team told her that the Congressional Budget Office would say such-and-such, she told them (wrongly) that her conversations with CBO head Robert Reischauer had already fixed that"
Hard to believe, I know: HRC telling lies.
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vertigate 3 years ago 2
This guy says he voted for Bill Clinton to get health care in 1992. He didn't get it. So he wants to vote again this time for the Clinton who actually bungled this particular policy the first time around? I don't understand that logic. If you bring your car to a mechanic and he gives it back to you unrepaired with the motor still not running, but he charges you an 8 year waiting time, are you going to give your car to that same mechanic again when there is another mechanic you could go to?
vertigate 3 years ago
The inflexibility of some people astounds me.
vertigate 3 years ago
Who designed your channel,,,Stanley Kubrick??
dingorex 3 years ago
Yep, Stanley is my buddy.
vertigate 3 years ago