How to replace a close coupled toilet syphon | Dudley Turbo

[matthewcarlrose]

Great vid!! Changing mine tomorrow! :) Not going with the Dudley turbo thou, it only has to last a year or so! (saving up for a new bathroom!) wish me luck.

[ultimatehandyman]

@matthewcarlrose

Good luck. Make sure you go and spray the bolts with some spray penetrant ASAP ;-)

[octopus680]

Excellent! -cheers...

[ultimatehandyman]

@octopus680

You are welcome

[GETTHEDEUCE]

THE ONLY SEALANT I WOULD USE IS FERNOX LS-X

[GETTHEDEUCE]

WD40 ON THE WING NUTS SHOULD BE TRIED BEFORE CUTTING.

& MOST SYPHONS HAVE A BUILT IN OVER FLOW NOW.

[ultimatehandyman]

@GETTHEDEUCE

It was tried for several days before.

[toeblaster]

THANK-YOU....watched your brilliant video and sorted the flush ...the membrane had gone but i just replaced the whole lot while i was at it, your video gave me the confidence to do it .THANKS again your one of life's good-guys

[ultimatehandyman]

@toeblaster

Glad it helped.

Thanks for the comment

[drinkmorepetrol]

Excellent instructions. Probably just about the most informative 20 minutes I've ever spent on YouTube!

Thanks for posting.

[ultimatehandyman]

@drinkmorepetrol

Thanks for the comment ;-)

[GirlzandBumz]

A massive thank you for this video. You`ve turned a daunting task into something i`m looking forward to doing. Ordering the parts tonight so hopefully complete the job on thursday. Again thank you very much for taking the time to make these video`s, very much appreciated.

[ultimatehandyman]

@GirlzandBumz

You are welcome.

Good luck with changing your syphon ;-)

[wjestick]

scratch my last comment. The membrane washer was just stuck, I made a new one from a plastic milk bottle, works great. Thanks again.

[ultimatehandyman]

@wjestick

You are welcome.

Thanks for the comments ;-)

[wjestick]

Excellent video.

1. Clarity of explanation: A

2. Accounting for the unexpected: A

3. Dealing with problems: A

4. Comprehensive instructions:A

I was all set for a long job on mine. But after watching this video I realised I had a 3 part, that just disconnects and lifts right out. Nice.

Great video.

P.S: My membrane was ripped. It is a sad fact that they don't make it easy just to replace the sheet of plastic, environmentally irresponsible.

[xz4q18]

This is an absolute godsend. That is exactly yhe job I have to do plus we've sheared the metal linkage from the handle to the flush arm thing. However I feel confident that I've this step by step to come back and refer to. Can't thank you enough.

[ultimatehandyman]

@xz4q18

Glad it helps

Thanks for the comment

[xz4q18]

@ultimatehandyman just finished the job. Unfortunately the old doughnut washer was recessed into the hole but the new one was flat so the cistern sat higher. But the old one was still O.K. It all works a treat and I shall now look for a spare washer which I now am confident I can fit in no time if I have to. Thanks once again

[gazt00th]

Cheers big man, a truly grateful Scottish Spark, keep up the good work. Nice to see a good tradesman at his craft. Hope you have at least one apprentice to pass on your wealth of knowledge :-)

[ultimatehandyman]

@gazt00th

You are welcome!

I don't have an apprentice I am afraid as I am just a keen DIY'er, hopefully the videos I post on here will help to pass on what I know :-)

Thanks for the comment

[zamkh]

Excellent video. Got me out of a DIY corner! :)

[ultimatehandyman]

@zamkh

I'm glad it helped.

Thanks for the comment

[amyland5jmc]

Probably the best DIY instruction video I've seen to date. Excellent, keep it up and thanks.

[ultimatehandyman]

@amyland5jmc

Thanks very much ;-)

[MrAdamzaki]

thanks A++++++++

[ultimatehandyman]

@MrAdamzaki

Thanks for the comment

[ericfied]

Excellent video in simple understandable language. Well done, ever hough of a job in teaching?

[ultimatehandyman]

@ericfied

Thanks for the comment.

I have never thought about a job in teaching as I'm currently self employed. I resigned from my job as a maintenance engineer last year to concentrate on my website and more youtube videos.

[ultimatehandyman]

@slowkills1

Thanks LOL

[JamieWardfurniture]

Thank you for a very informative video. I'm off to purchase my toilet syphon now and shall have a go.

[ultimatehandyman]

@JamieWardfurniture

You are welcome.

Good luck with yours ;-)

Thanks for the comment

[JunkComa]

Excellent video thanks!

[ultimatehandyman]

@JunkComa

You are welcome, Thanks for the comment ;-)

[lifeshort]

Fuckin' excellent video mate, thanks for taking the time to make it.

[ultimatehandyman]

@lifeshort

You are welcome.

Thanks for the comment

[57jimboy]

thanx for this fabulous tutorial, after watching this i decided to do my own instead of reaching for the phone and calling a plumber. I fitted a three piece syphon to make life easier in the future if the diaphram goes again.You saved me lots of money aswell as giving me the satisfaction of doing it myself. I'm checking out all your videos now because they as just so details i take away any fear factor about having a go yourself. cheers again !!!

[ultimatehandyman]

@57jimboy

Excellent- well done!

Good on you for having a go ;-)

Thanks for the comment

[ballybows]

Perfect. Very clear & precise instructions. I have had Advise from 4 plumbers & 3 attempts from 2 different plumbers. Still leaked. As it happens it appears to be exactly same cistern and B&Q shell toilet. I do have one problem though. The first attempt to change coupler too small, (no pressure on seal when tightened still leaked) so i got the same one as yours, NO leakes but back pot does not sit on toilet back as coupler to big (gap between). Have you any advice Thanks Diane x

[ultimatehandyman]

@ballybows

Normally when you tighten the two wingnuts (equally) it pulls the cistern down to the toilet pan. You could check them to make sure the wing nuts are tight.

[maruffle]

Thanks for the video tutorial well handy about to try and fix a leak from that big rubber coupler

[ultimatehandyman]

@maruffle

You are welcome

Thanks for the comment

[alexpositivecharge]

shit i stay in romania and my toilet system is better than this , let me explain you something....

instead of flapper valve is a bell (its a system) and i don't need something to take the few cm of water out i just simply pull the bell upwards.

instead of flush lever it's a start\stop button

etc.

[ultimatehandyman]

@alexpositivecharge

I didn't design or invent the syphon LOL, I just replaced the faulty part.

Different countries have different ways of flushing. Flapper valves are widely used across the world, I do not know why Syphons are so common in the UK?

[alexpositivecharge]

@ultimatehandyman yeah but you seen the bell system? its better than flapper valve or syphon and you should install it oh i almost forgot right in this moment i upload a respond video with this system

oh and i maked this video with the webcam but it's normal quality.

[ultimatehandyman]

@alexpositivecharge

No, I have not see it.

I'll take a look at it when you post it ;-)

[alexpositivecharge]

@ultimatehandyman it uploads very slow i don't know why

it says: about 466 minutes left and its 11% loaded

[ultimatehandyman]

@alexpositivecharge

Some of my videos can take 8 hours to upload, it could be a slow connection?

[lrd9999]

@ultimatehandyman I'm going to assume it's because you can't keep using them if they are leaky. Here in the US we have a brand of fill valves, Fluidmaster, specifically designed to flip on and off to annoy any tenant who ignores a leaky flapper; landlords love them, LOL. I saw a new toilet with a half-barrel shaped inner-tank, gimballed like a pig on a rotisserie, so when you flipped the handle is just dumped its contents. Seems like the best of both worlds.

Good job, BTW.

[ultimatehandyman]

@lrd9999

Thanks for the info and the comment ;-)

[TheRiffKid22]

Many Thanks

Couldn't have done it without your help !

[ultimatehandyman]

@TheRiffKid22

You are welcome

Thanks for the comment and well done!

[jonathanmaude]

Thank you very much! The video is very clear and helped a lot!

I am having a small issue - my old donut washer was softer than the new one and was more squashed at the back - so the cistern was leaning back and touching the wall. The new washer is harder rubber, so the cistern is vertical with a small gap at the top between it and the wall (kind of like the one in the video).

The cistern was previously fastened to the wall with silicone - what do you think the best option is now? Packing?

[ultimatehandyman]

@jonathanmaude

Yes, I'd pack it out a little. If you try and force it to the wall it might crack the porcelain.

Thanks for the comment ;-)

[HughShower]

Hiya mate, excellent video, well done! Had no experience taking apart a cistern and viewed this twice before buying the parts and tackling the job. Stupid loo was 20+ years old & had a "siphon bomb" system, so even with a new siphon it just filled the bowl and wouldn't flush, even after taking it apart 10 times! Gave up, bought a complete new toilet after finding out siphon bombs stopped being made 15 years ago! Couldn't have tackled it without you though, thank you very much!

[ultimatehandyman]

@HughShower

You are welcome!

I should of mentioned about the aspirator or "syphon bomb" as I once came across one, but I managed to make it fit the new syphon. Glad you got it sorted in the end, thanks for the comment ;-)

[HughShower]

@ultimatehandyman Oh, I fitted the aspirator back in place, but the new Dudley siphon was so much better than the old unit that it overwhelmed the aspirator! I even adapted it and tried it at different heights, no luck! What a crazy design! Anyway, your videos are super, done in a patient and intelligent fashion without being patronising, all credit to you and thanks again!

[ultimatehandyman]

@HughShower

Ah right. When I came across an aspirator I was only fitting one of the cheap single part syphons. The aspirator would not fit inside of the new syphon so I had to sand it until it fit, which took me hours!

I'm glad that my video has helped, thanks very much for the comments ;-)

[junade007]

Hiya mate, I'd like to thank you for this great video you have made. I have never looked under a toilet cistern until this video and for the first time ever I was able to take apart the whole toilet system to replace the syphon and get my toilet working again. Thanks buddy, full credit goes out to you!

[ultimatehandyman]

@junade007

Thanks for the comment.

I can't take the credit for what you have done, so well done!

I'm glad that my video gave you the confidence to have a go your self though ;-)

[selfTaughtGirl]

I didn't think I could do a job like this, but needs must, and your video meant I could. Thank-you.

[ultimatehandyman]

@selfTaughtGirl

I'm delighted that you attempted the job and finished it successfully.

Well done ;-)

Thanks for the comment

[GBscottieUK]

Very good, clear instructions, easy to follow. I now feel confident to fix my non flushing cistern.

I see you have one dislike, I can only assume that must be from another plumber. You know, the type of plumber that likes to draw breath through his teeth before telling you it ain't going to be cheap.

Well done, great video.

[ultimatehandyman]

@GBscottieUK

Thanks for the comment.

Some people do dislike my videos, personally if I watch a video and I do not like it I don't do anything, but some people have nothing better to do than dislike and criticise other peoples work.

[callumrae]

Brilliant video, covered all the bases and clearly explained. Thanks

[ultimatehandyman]

@callumrae

You are welcome.

Thanks for the comment ;-)

[durruti1936]

What a star. I've got a toilet exactly like that and I've had to change the diaphragm twice in the last eight years and it was a horrible job each time. That two-part syphon is a revelation and I'll be getting one. Thanks!

[ultimatehandyman]

@durruti1936

Once fitted they are much easier and also save water!

Thanks for the comment 

[durruti1936]

@ultimatehandyman I've just finished installing the new 2-part syphon and everything went well apart from I'm having a similar problem that I've had before - when connecting the cold feed back up to the water inlet pipe I find it difficult to get a good seal. It doesn't seem to like a metal nut on plastic thread no matter how much I tighten up even with PTFE tape. Any advice? Thanks again.

[ultimatehandyman]

@durruti1936

Make certain that the connector is not cross threaded.

Also there is normally a fibre washer in the connector, so it might be a good idea to replace that as it could be damaged.

[sjrigby99]

Brilliant mate. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. Very helpful indeed.

[ultimatehandyman]

@sjrigby99

You are welcome, thanks for the comment ;-)

[thehadenorme]

Your a life saver, thank you

[ultimatehandyman]

@thehadenorme

You are welcome.

Thanks for the comment ;-)

[1chemiliam]

thanks very much helped me out heaps very happy indeed lee

[ultimatehandyman]

@1chemiliam

Glad it helped, thanks for the comment ;-)

[UniqueDonegal]

Cheers Mate. I have just successfully changed the syphon in my loo, and after a couple of attempts at getting the tightness correct underneath the syphon. All is working perfectly. Thanks Again. You saved me money. Total Cost was 19 euros, and an hour and 15 minutes of my time.

[ultimatehandyman]

@UniqueDonegal

Glad it helped.

Thanks for the comment ;-)

[elvis459]

Why replace the whole syphon when you can just replace the membrane by cutting a new one from a sheet of plastic ?

[ultimatehandyman]

@elvis459

Because you have to remove the syphon in the first place to replace the membrane. Unless of course you fit one of the two part syphons like I have done. The next time the membrane needs replacing I can just remove a pin and split the syphon.

[elvis459]

@ultimatehandyman Yes you have to remove the syphon to replace the membrane but a sheet of plastic is something everyone has lying around the house and it costs nothing and saves a trip to the hardware shop. It also seems a shame to replace a whole part because an easily replaceable pat is broken.

[ultimatehandyman]

@elvis459

You are missing the point, did you see how difficult it was to remove the old bolts?

You never need to remove them ever again when you fit a two part syphon, the next time the membrane is damaged you can just split the syphon and replace it in 5 mins.

[elvis459]

@ultimatehandyman That toilet looks as though it has been in that spot for at least the last 5 years, that means the syphon has lasted that long and if you replace the membrane with a piece of plastic thick enough, it will in all probability never need replacing again. (At least not before the toilet needs replacing) My point is people don't have the money anymore to be wasting on parts they don't need, I am just trying to point out to those people that this problem can be fixed for free.

[benchaud]

I really like this video and would like to replace the whole toilet, can i ask what you think of the wickes toilet to go currently at £45, it looks really solid and i think it is a bargain for then money? Also what is the reliability like thanks?

[ultimatehandyman]

@benchaud

Not sure about the Wickes one, but I once fitted a B&Q one and it was pretty poor- the flush mechanism kept sticking up! The porcelain was ok though, so perhaps buy a cheap toilet and fit a more expensive flush valve/syphon and water inlet valve

[Ghostman539]

Great video, really easy to understand. I feel confident enough to complete this task myself! Thanks.

[ultimatehandyman]

@Ghostman539

Thanks for the comment!

It's not that difficult once you get the two bolts undone/cut off ;-)

[TinkerJoO]

Excellent video, thanks.

[ultimatehandyman]

@TinkerJoO

You are welcome, thanks for the comment!

[manovsteal]

Fantastic How-To guide! Just finished replacing the whole contents of my cistern and no leaks to be found! Honestly couldn't have done it without you! Many thanks!

[ultimatehandyman]

@manovsteal

Excellent-well done!

It's great when people find my videos useful ;-)

Thanks for the comment!

[SawyersOfTonbridge]

Really helpful and clear. Thankyou

[ultimatehandyman]

@SawyersOfTonbridge

You are welcome.

Thanks for the comment

[annikacoughlin]

Whenever you have a chance, please do post me the link to your forum. My plumbing issues aren't over just yet!

[ultimatehandyman]

@annikacoughlin

I'll message you the link ;-)

[redneckfl1]

I stumbled across this video while watching home improvement videos. In the US our toilets use a flapper with a chain hooked to the flush handle. Those syphon toilets you guys have look way better than ours. The US now requires low flow toilets, and they clog very easy. My fill valve broke in my toilet, so I bought a kit and replaced everything. The kit's overflow tube was taller than my original so I just set the fill valve higher. Now the flush is more powerful and it hasn't clogged up since.

[ultimatehandyman]

@redneckfl1

Thanks for the comment.

Unfortunately many of the modern toilets in the UK no longer use syphons, which is a shame as they are so reliable. Some Modern flush valves are often rubbish compared to a syphon!

[annikacoughlin]

Do plumbers use special sealant, or will that sealant you use round the bath do?

[annikacoughlin]

I managed to successfulyy replace my syphon, however, the new close coupling bits didn't fit - the doughnut was too fat. Also, now that I have disturbed the overflow pipe and the other thing (both which has sealent round them) now the toilet leaks from the pipes! So I need to re seal these?

[ultimatehandyman]

@annikacoughlin

If you use silicone sealant ensure that any mating parts are completely dry first.

The doughnut washers are normally universal, perhaps it is the toilet that has been made to a different specification than the ones I have used them on?

Silicone sealant or plumbers mait should do the trick

[annikacoughlin]

@ultimatehandyman Thank you for your response. Your video is excellent by the way, My troubles only happened because non-professionals like me don't know how to deal with the unexpected. I also was a bit of an idiot last night and somehow undid the valve that stops the water flowing - the stop clock thing. So ended up soaked and scared! I have a proper plumber coming to visit in a minute. :)

[ultimatehandyman]

@annikacoughlin

No problem for the reply.

I should of pointed you to my forum as there are plumbers in there that could of helped, but I am struggling getting online at the moment- sorry!

[melarestaurant]

JUST PERFECT 5 STAR :--)) FAR BETTER THEN ANY DIY VIDEO

[ultimatehandyman]

@melarestaurant

Thanks for the comment ;-)

[dreaddog]

If it wasnt for this video i'd of never tryed this myself, so handy a watched coz didn't know that i needed a close coupling kit. took hour and half for the whole job, well chuffed, many thanks. :D

[ultimatehandyman]

@dreaddog

Thanks for the comment!

Well done for having a go yourself ;-)

[stuBhound69]

Exactly what i needed to know as i have same toilet/syphon problem.10/10 for a no-nonsense DIY help video.

[ultimatehandyman]

@stuBhound69

Thanks for the comment ;-)

[Caminandoooo]

Excellent video, proved very helpfull. I bought the same Syphon from my local build centre, however had to buy a different one in the end as it wouldnt fit within the systen - was too tight against the feed pipe.

All sorted now though, thanks

[zenithdave]

Thanks loads, just sucessfully replaced a faulty siphon which i never would have attempted unles i saw you do it, perfect, thanks.

[ultimatehandyman]

@zenithdave

Excellent!

Well done ;-)

[mancydan]

Thanks - job done -so easy following your instructions.

[ultimatehandyman]

@mancydan

Excellent!

Thanks for the comment ;-)

[cathpeake]

I followed this to the letter to replace the syphon diaphragm and it was so easy!

I have kept a strip of kitchen roll underneath the toilet just to make sure that there are no leaks but after 5 days it seems fine.

Thanks ultimatehandyman, I am going to change a washer on the basin tap next weekend.

[ultimatehandyman]

@cathpeake

That is excellent- well done ;-)

[benny5825]

Where can you buy the dudley syphon,also where can i buy them thin cutting disc ,thanks.

[ultimatehandyman]

@benny5825

You can get them both online at Toolstation, I'll message you the links as I cannot post them as comments.

[callmenort]

The whole system looks to be a lot better then what I've seen here in Canada! I've installed a lot of toilets and I'll be looking for this type of flush assembly.

[ultimatehandyman]

@callmenort

I'm not sure what you have in Canada. I think in the USA they use a lot of flapper valves!

Unfortunately on the modern toilets in the UK they now fit modern flush valves that operate by pressing a button, many of these valves are poor quality and they often stick in the open position so the water goes right down the drain! Give me a decent syphon any day ;-)

[Jcb33]

Just wanted to say thanks! My toilet has been playing up for a while, but the last couple of days it has been a real pain to flush. Upon finding this video I went out and got the Dudley Turbo and needed bits, it came to £45 including the tools, so a bit of an expense but cheaper than a plumber, and it will make it much easier in the future.

So yeah, a huge thank you for making this video, it is great!

[ultimatehandyman]

@Jcb33

You are welcome.

I am really glad that it has helped you.

[zakzak000]

Who on earth uses a stop tap to the bog!bit overkill...

[ultimatehandyman]

@zakzak000

Who ever fitted the toilet lol.

Thinking about it my old house also had a stop tap to the toilet cistern too!

[MyClawHammer]

Another great vid thanks for the info.

[ultimatehandyman]

@MyClawHammer

Thanks, it was a pain to do and film but hopefully it will help people!

[benny5825]

I wonder why they dont use rust proof bolts,good video thanks.

[ultimatehandyman]

@benny5825

They normally are rustproof to a certain degree, perhaps that was a cheap one! The last one I changed was on a olive green suite, which was really old and it was not rusted up like that one.