From the look of the steam chest casting I would have thought the engine was double acting but I can only hear one powerstroke. Is this a single acting engine? Thanks for the great video.
I am gonna say; I am more proud of where I belong professionally, mechanical engineering...I was close to tears ! seeing the old relic of the steam giant brought to life.It could be likened to going into an Egyptian pyramid and resuscitate a pharaoh...! lol ! ...of course , to serve, if you are wondering !
very cool project and glad somebody saved it... i would be concerned about pressures in such an old and possibly rusted piece.. did you guys inspect it carefully for cracks and leaks first?
Glad to see some people care for pieces of history like this. and by-the-way, compare
this engine with the modern equipment filled up with computers,bits,bytes and electric
parts; all fragile. this machine is easy "troubleshootable" and independent. wonderfull simplicity you can trust ( I gues this is a weird-twisted text) But; I love it! The man, the engine, the project, the little boy, the vid; Love it all. keep up the good work. YEAH!!
Thats just AMAZING, A device like this could get you right off the power grid!
Very inspirational.
I bet a little time with some black graphite paste and a scrub brush would black up and protect up the boiler and other non moving parts from the weather -and look nice aswell- "was used on 19th century home wood stoves and the like"
This is not a criticism, just an observation. Most mill engine are designed to be "overrun"; that is, the top of the flywheel runs towards the cylinder. That way, the power strokes of the connecting rod force the cross-head down on on the cross-head bearings, not up as this engine does. According the literature from the days of ubiquitous steam power, that design is stronger because the cross-head bearings in the frame take most of the pressure.
What kind of boiler inspection did this thing get before you lit it off? Firetube boilers make rather large holes in the ground when they take flight! Nice engine though!
Joe, I sure like this video. What a nice job you did bringing this old engine back to life. It is my dream to have a steam powered sawmill. Me and my gray haired friends making steam, sawdust and a few boards. And of course pulling on the steam whistle every now and then.
can you help have a boiler like yours need info on how to fire for the first time dont want to be on the six o clock news frankauten@yahoo.com thanks Frank
wish to exchange info i have a boiler like yours and dont know a lot of how to fire it dont want to be on the 6 o clock news frankauten@yahoo.com thanks Frank
Great video. I'll asume the engineer has done his duty. Steam engines, achieved great efficiency, in trains and cars, but unfortunately, petrol and diesel promoters convinced the car driving consumer otherwise. But if worse came to worse, in a steam powered car, you could always burn the local newspaper or your furniture.
American are pretty silly even, no bullshit invective infirm recosntruiu just a mess that was standing, it looks and I will say that American temtempo more to do nothing, they will have time to shit away.
@railrdr523 Problem solved ? are you serious , it takes hours to fire up the boiler to produce enough steam to run the engine , You are as retarded as the 3 fingered kid in this video
I love how close he gets to the drive shift and wheel to oil it while it's running, it's a 19th century industrial accident just looking for a place and person to happen to in the 21st century!
I love how close he gets to the drive shift and wheel to oil it while it's running, it's a 19th century industrial accident just looking for a place and person to happen to in the 21st century!
I would make it into a "redneck log splitter" weld a spliting maul head on the fly wheel. that would be the ultra "green" logsplitter! look up" redneck logsplitter" on youtube
I interviewed John Cash for a 1250 WIPS in the early 80's and just watched his final interview. Your video was posted on that site, was interested in viewing it, because I'm in the process of try to generate my own electricity from a small stream,saw the wheel on the steam engine, I got to thinking one like that could be used as a water wheel. Was very impressed with a man who follows his dreams. Posted kind of a joke video, showing stream in the winter. This video encourages me! Regards,KIRK
@done871 Depends..here in Australia all the old paddlesteamers were wood fired,they burned either Red gum or Mallee wood..both native Australian hardwoods which were in plentiful supply,and burned with a very high heat...if you had a good fireman that knew what he was doing they had no problem raising pressures of up to 150 psi in the boilers.
lt's always good to see old steam machinery brought back to life again,especially when they've lain forgotten and unloved for so many years..they deserve better. But,regarding the boiler,,l can't convince myself that it has ever been ex traction. Quite a few makers supplied either static or traction versions of basically the same units,the former being used in logging camps etc as semi permanent but moveable plant. The fire door and ash pan seem very low for a road engine. Could be wrong though.
That's one happy boiler and steam engine. I think that's just great that you guys brought those back to life. I would have not thought to use an old steam tractor as a boiler, but it works perfect. Now all you need is a big ol' drive belt and an electric generator to hook it up to. Sure would be great if the power went out, or just to get off the dirty electric grid. That boiler could be run off of methanol or methane, two very clean renewable energy sources. Anyway, great job.
too bad people dont realize--they are cheaper to run- more powerful (torque)- and last forever(seldom break down) than modern engines...oh well...gas and diesel continue to to have a submission hold on us all...we could break free by going to steam again..imho
Even though i would love to se more off these engines... But it only that even IF they are cheaper to run and more reliable, It still makes them way to dirty and they have a way to low power to weight ratio... An modern diesel at that size and weight would have about 3000Hp or more.. Lots more actualy XD
It's for a good reason the writght brothers made their plaine with a gas engine ^^ Steam is to heavy :S
@kissa02 good point- but--now we have light boilers--high performance boilers , engines made from lighter stronger materials...and steam on hp-hp and wieght to weight basis is the same as diesel loco's- same weight same hp--in fact the modern steam train had more hp than any of todays diesel trains!..3000 hp at 150 rpms compared to 3000 hp at 3600 rpms for diesel. the steam wins hands down! i.e. 200 hp steam engine=1051 ft-lbs of torque vs about 750 for diesel of same hp rating.
@kissa02 The Besler brothers flew a steam powered plane in 1933. Also, you could run an engine like this with a quality steam generator (also from the 30's) that's about 1/8 the size of this boiler. They won't burn a solid fuel but gas, diesel or kerosene works just fine & the fire is so hot that it's cleaner than most cars. If you want it even cleaner then you could fire it with propane.
Trim off the first 4 minutes of 'twangy' Johnny Cash shit and the family picture album, and what you will have left is at least a nominally entertaining and informative video. At best.
@NathansBackwoods LMAO!!! You're wrong Sparky! I care about what I want. If you post shit on here you gotta' take your chances just like everybody else. If you open yourself up for comments, you're gonna' get 'em! Some will please you and some won't. That's life tough guy! So don't be a pussy and take it like a man. If you are one!
@WizardOfChicamunga, All im saying is your a stupid little prick, get over the fact that the video has pictures at the beginning, its not that big of a deal you little cock lick.
@NathansBackwoods No dickwad! I'm not gonna' get over it you fat bag of shit! How's that? And my comment about that shit you call a video still stands! So now 'tootie' you can kiss my pootie! You fat shit-eater! And that loser family of yours looks like it was reared on shit same as you!
@NathansBackwoods Don't make me have to stop what I'm doing just to come out there an' kick your big fat, in-bred, hillbilly ass all over them redneck woods!
@WizardOfChicamunga, Im trying to get across is what you first said was really rude,Ex: At a car show, theres a car all painted up looking fresh, new wheels new interior. You dont say to him say "Wow couldn't you have chose a shittier car to restore, whats up with those gay wheels and the shitty ass pleather interior!" No you would not say that, in the back of your head you might, but the person should hear something like "Looks like you worked hard on it" Same concept applies to a video.
@NathansBackwoods Now that we've been formally introduced (hahaha...we're both old school assholes) Wanna' shake hands and be friends? BTW, what's the HP of that monster?
@WizardOfChicamunga, Yeah, that would have been a better way to confront you, I have said stupid things about people videos before to, I just felt bad about it later....I have no idea the HP, I would imagine around 30.
Wow that is some accomplishment. I am curious though. Did you use the power of this external combustion engine to generate electricity for your home run a saw mill or just the fact that you restored her. Even if you didn't its quite an accomplishment.
@0812201 Thanks for the response! Very interesting. The whole idea of the "injector" is an amazing concept to me. Took some smarts to come up with that device. I'm envious of your steam engines!
Oh boy, I'll bet you were excited when you found these engines. What state are you in? How many psi do you run the engine you're operating in this video. You need a sawmill.
@0812201 No point in testing then since it's not possible to get a rating that is true. Tests mean nothing if everything else does not match up.....If you think steam is powerful then by all means stick by your opinion. I think a Youtube video of a test like this needs to be put up. I got a motor so maybe I'll do it. Just need to shop for a steam engine.
@0812201 Then all I have too do is set the current limit to 600 amps which will double the torque from 4,500 to 9,000 Ft*Lbs or even triple it to 900 amps which gives me 13,500 Ft*Lbs. I still see no clear winner. You turn up steam pressure, I turn up the current limit.....
@0812201 Gearing is not cheating because like I said if the HP occurs at a RPM other than what the competition does then the torque data will be different. Else the test is pointless. Just like diesel has more torque than gas, but if a 100 RPM, 5HP gas engine goes against a 5HP, 3600 RPM diesel then you can see the gas engine will win cause of its low rpm HP which is more torque based. If geared to 100 RPM though, the diesel will win and the will be matched RPM and HP.
@0812201 Of course you could turn up the steam pressure to gain torque, but then all I have to do is set the current limit higher since more current = more torque for DC motors. I see no ultimate winner. It all depends what the weakest link is that could bring one down to the losing side. You could snap a rod or the DC motor could burn up from the high current draw.
@0812201 The problem is at 200 RPM with 3,500 Ft*Lbs is 133 HP. Not quite a fair comparison against a 36 HP electric......At least I got some data. I just looked up a 125 HP at 1830 RPM DC motor. If the current limit is set at 300 amps armature then it states the torque will be 500 Ft*Lbs which in this case will be our torque at zero RPM. So about 9:1 ratio is needed to match the RPMs of the steam engine giving the motor 4,500 Ft*Lbs which is more than capable of destroying the steam engine.
@0812201 I bet $200 that any 150 watt steam engine you have would get owned by a 125 watt DC motor. I must select what DC motor it can be because I know the correct way to sel. Keep in mind that these are Continuous ratings. You are not allowed to take a continuous rated HP steam engine and then under rate the HP. That is cheating.
@0812201 The torque curve you see for electric motors is a load curve at fixed voltage, not a rev torque curve like that of combustion engines. You must drawn in multiple load curves at different fixed voltages to get an idea of what the motor will do in a vehicle. Of course if the controller is a ON/OFF switch that applies 100% voltage or zero instead of varying it proportionally to that of the throttle position of the variable resistor, then of course that would also be its "rev curve".
@0812201 Most likely you compared a low RPM steam engine to a high RPM DC motor. Not really a fair test. A DC motor would crush a steam engine in a torque duel off. It's like someone comparing a 900 RPM gas engine against a 3600 RPM diesel engine. Of course the gas engine is going to win because the HP is more torque based than RPM based. Next time you do the test be sure to gear the DC motor down to the same RPM as the steam engine. Also make sure the motor can source lots of current.
What amazes me. These old engines still work after all these years. And people brag their car has 200,000 miles on it. If you found a car engine like that in a woods that many years it would be ready for the scrapyard. I will never get sick of listening to a steam engine.
Great seeing these machines saved so younger generations, like your grandson @ 5:05, can see what built America. Thanks for your good work!! Roy Lewis Atlanta, GA USA
i love thease make and brake type engines this one is steam but it still makes me think some of the best music writers just sat around and listend to thease things lol
You should try to make a solar powered steam engine to generate power. That would be an awesome project to try out. I wish I could do that but I don't have the necessary tools yet.
@0812201 Looks like you started an argument LOL! I watched the video, it's cute but it proves why steam cars are not used today. I ran out of words in my previous comment but I also wanted to mention start up time, safety hazards of small units, and P/W ratio. Although they can be very efficient when fitted with a superheater and heat recycling systems as well as cogenerators, they cannot deliver energy at a fast enough rate like the rate needed to acceleratte from an entrance to a free way.
@0812201 You're probably right. I read up on steam engines and if you design them right they can reach efficiencies of up to 85%. So efficiency is not an issue.
Then comes the inevitable question, why aren't piston steam engines used more often if they are so much better than electric and diesel? That's because they are horrible at accelerating. They are only good for operating at a continuous speed for long periods of time, hence why they are only used in power plants and not in cars.
@0812201 Actually, for the most torque, electric engines surpass most other engines in both torque and efficiency. But electrical energy storage is still a major problem that won't be resolved until quite some time. Good luck on becoming a nuclear engineer, I wanted to work on nuclear fusion technology to resolve the current energy situation but that's quite a hot topic and H bombs scare the hell out of me.
I really enjoyed your video. Those engines couldn't have gone to a better guy. I have a 1930's Stover Hit-N-Miss engine that I restored. Nothing made today has the soul that old iron has.
great video, ive been looking for something about half the size for my garden but no chance of just finding one in the uk id have to buy one and they cost thousands!
@0812201 Ya,I know the feeling of putting an old machine through too much work. xD We own a 930 Case with cab but can't do much with it anymore because we pull wagons that are too big for it now.
Lots of people say that steam engines are obsolete but that is the least bit true, only piston steam engines are obsolete. Steam TURBINES still produce about 95% of the world's power. It's kind of cool to look at nuclear power plants because they are a combination of the old (steam turbine) and the new (uranium fission). Steam turbines actually hold up better to intensive use than any other type of engine (diesel and such) hence why they are used in power plants.
nice to see it wasn't left to rot like so many others.
very cool!
TheGarbageman22 1 week ago
From the look of the steam chest casting I would have thought the engine was double acting but I can only hear one powerstroke. Is this a single acting engine? Thanks for the great video.
lugerstonecock 2 weeks ago
That is awesome!!!!!!
soccercleatscrush 3 weeks ago
How much reconditioning was required?
northstar2007 1 month ago
I am gonna say; I am more proud of where I belong professionally, mechanical engineering...I was close to tears ! seeing the old relic of the steam giant brought to life.It could be likened to going into an Egyptian pyramid and resuscitate a pharaoh...! lol ! ...of course , to serve, if you are wondering !
geometry001 1 month ago
beautiful, thanks for sharing
AbuAvital 2 months ago
6:11 Best doorbell ever!!!!!
Majorbloxxer 2 months ago
very cool project and glad somebody saved it... i would be concerned about pressures in such an old and possibly rusted piece.. did you guys inspect it carefully for cracks and leaks first?
67mustangreg 2 months ago
Tired of useless pics 4:01 better)
777exist 2 months ago
Time to put Johnny Cash aside for a rest, you'll be buddies with Jay Leno in short order time!
Since the humor is out of the way, thank's for bringing back what America no longer makes, a lasting piece of machinery.
n9zn 2 months ago
The horn blows,what about the driver.lol
rodeye2 3 months ago
great effort
duffbeer3460 3 months ago
lucky
fox123456789ish 3 months ago
How many PSI's?
robcas631 3 months ago
I love the photo's! Great engines you have aquired. I also loke Johnny Cash....
robcas631 3 months ago
Did you just steam this up without a boiler safety certificate.
thra5herxb12s 3 months ago
I don't trust steam. I'm a wind powered man myself.
jameshughleigh 3 months ago
all the animals of the forest must think that some kind of giant dinosaur bird has landed...
legaata 3 months ago
Wow that is a nice whistle... has nice echo...
dukes20084 3 months ago
rusty old boilers make me nervous
timstah1971 3 months ago
Glad to see some people care for pieces of history like this. and by-the-way, compare
this engine with the modern equipment filled up with computers,bits,bytes and electric
parts; all fragile. this machine is easy "troubleshootable" and independent. wonderfull simplicity you can trust ( I gues this is a weird-twisted text) But; I love it! The man, the engine, the project, the little boy, the vid; Love it all. keep up the good work. YEAH!!
rtuinstra 3 months ago
Thats just AMAZING, A device like this could get you right off the power grid!
Very inspirational.
I bet a little time with some black graphite paste and a scrub brush would black up and protect up the boiler and other non moving parts from the weather -and look nice aswell- "was used on 19th century home wood stoves and the like"
ROBBEAUDOIN66 4 months ago
wow gorgeous, what do you use it for now?
Adriangrosvenor 5 months ago
This is not a criticism, just an observation. Most mill engine are designed to be "overrun"; that is, the top of the flywheel runs towards the cylinder. That way, the power strokes of the connecting rod force the cross-head down on on the cross-head bearings, not up as this engine does. According the literature from the days of ubiquitous steam power, that design is stronger because the cross-head bearings in the frame take most of the pressure.
dorseyharrington 5 months ago
What kind of boiler inspection did this thing get before you lit it off? Firetube boilers make rather large holes in the ground when they take flight! Nice engine though!
75Bird455 5 months ago
great work
MultiWolf1974 5 months ago
Joe, I sure like this video. What a nice job you did bringing this old engine back to life. It is my dream to have a steam powered sawmill. Me and my gray haired friends making steam, sawdust and a few boards. And of course pulling on the steam whistle every now and then.
omyajt 5 months ago
Later you can get an old Hancock whistle that will wake up the
whole valley.
What kind of boiler pressure you running?
GooglFascists 6 months ago
alguien puede decirme como se llaman estas canciones...gracias
alanshepard1 6 months ago
nice to see the old man and the machine together. The kid should lose the wutang gesto.
waclosh 6 months ago 2
whats the second song
piratemtc 6 months ago
can you help have a boiler like yours need info on how to fire for the first time dont want to be on the six o clock news frankauten@yahoo.com thanks Frank
frankauten 7 months ago
wish to exchange info i have a boiler like yours and dont know a lot of how to fire it dont want to be on the 6 o clock news frankauten@yahoo.com thanks Frank
frankauten 7 months ago
молорик !!!!!!!
MyGGV 7 months ago
those, my friends, are what built America, and most of the world as it now stands.
TheCrimsonDusk 7 months ago
that damn engine is almost as old as the operator. I love it!
bachhell 7 months ago
O what a great video and song, wish I lived closer to you, would love to here and see your engine run. Great job of saving everything. Phil
farmerphil 7 months ago
Great video. I'll asume the engineer has done his duty. Steam engines, achieved great efficiency, in trains and cars, but unfortunately, petrol and diesel promoters convinced the car driving consumer otherwise. But if worse came to worse, in a steam powered car, you could always burn the local newspaper or your furniture.
eddie100 8 months ago
That big boiler is not even made for that. It is the frame / boiler for a traction engine. Although it is still a really nice set up.
kdukes1995 8 months ago
Beautiful!
Be careful, those boilers can explode making nasty burns or worse...
dgl1962 8 months ago
That was awesome! Very nice!
vonreich39 8 months ago
American are pretty silly even, no bullshit invective infirm recosntruiu just a mess that was standing, it looks and I will say that American temtempo more to do nothing, they will have time to shit away.
maggiwaltrick 9 months ago
Hook it up to a tractor PTO generator, then you could make electricity from wood.
LakeErieFising 9 months ago
Sei grande !!!!!!!
giangavi 9 months ago
@railrdr523 furious
SpecialAndNotDumb 9 months ago
@railrdr523 Problem solved ? are you serious , it takes hours to fire up the boiler to produce enough steam to run the engine , You are as retarded as the 3 fingered kid in this video
SpecialAndNotDumb 9 months ago
Amazing engine! Such a nice piece of our history.. Thx for the video!
Balthasar00101 9 months ago
I love how close he gets to the drive shift and wheel to oil it while it's running, it's a 19th century industrial accident just looking for a place and person to happen to in the 21st century!
screamfeederfan 9 months ago
I love how close he gets to the drive shift and wheel to oil it while it's running, it's a 19th century industrial accident just looking for a place and person to happen to in the 21st century!
screamfeederfan 9 months ago
hook it up to a generator & after the SHTF,..you will be the king!...(I'm not kidding)..Cheers!
wilatemodel 9 months ago
I would make it into a "redneck log splitter" weld a spliting maul head on the fly wheel. that would be the ultra "green" logsplitter! look up" redneck logsplitter" on youtube
mpedward2 9 months ago
I would make it into a "redneck log splitter" weld a spliting maul head on the fly wheel. that would be the ultra "green" logsplitter!
mpedward2 9 months ago
Thumbs up if you too waited for that thing to blow up
lovingkorvs 9 months ago
i liked it a lot.. except for pops blowing the whistle all the time.
0011clem 10 months ago
Да живеят музейните деятели!
Long live the restorators and the museum workers!
sasho54 10 months ago
you tube offers uploading of videos....DUH !!
NewEnergySavingTips 10 months ago
I interviewed John Cash for a 1250 WIPS in the early 80's and just watched his final interview. Your video was posted on that site, was interested in viewing it, because I'm in the process of try to generate my own electricity from a small stream,saw the wheel on the steam engine, I got to thinking one like that could be used as a water wheel. Was very impressed with a man who follows his dreams. Posted kind of a joke video, showing stream in the winter. This video encourages me! Regards,KIRK
janet12811 10 months ago
Very cool, thank you for saving history, and sharing it with the young!
skyrider4ever 10 months ago
This thing is set to run out of steam on December 21st, 2012. Been nice knowing you all.
ominousinc 10 months ago
@ominousinc Oh it will run long after that... you can count on it.
MrPlaystation3freak 10 months ago
great music choice...
danzbutrfly 10 months ago
babbit bearings on the flywheel
depsterboy 10 months ago
What about the first engine you saved?? Never showed her again.
psygn0sis 10 months ago
@psygn0sis looks like a single drum steam donkey
mog5858 10 months ago
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that was way cool to see this old girl breathe again what a neat part of history,thank you i wish my grandfather could see this
jdh6200 10 months ago
that was way coolto this old girl breathe again what a neat part of history,thank you i wis h my grandfather could see this
jdh6200 10 months ago
needs more calories.
the engine needs coal that firewood is barley enough
done871 10 months ago
@done871 Depends..here in Australia all the old paddlesteamers were wood fired,they burned either Red gum or Mallee wood..both native Australian hardwoods which were in plentiful supply,and burned with a very high heat...if you had a good fireman that knew what he was doing they had no problem raising pressures of up to 150 psi in the boilers.
catey62 1 month ago
@sirraffee Start a fire
DobermansRock 11 months ago
5:42 what is boy showing whit fingers?
DeraNicpa 11 months ago
Did you guys have to do any boiler work before firing it up again?
adfgfds 11 months ago
i like steam boiler you very goog i'm form thailand ayuttaya,suphan bu-ry,bank-kok
Tong29M3 11 months ago
Thats awesome!
ewilder105 11 months ago
you should attach a supercharger ^_^
nwnc84 11 months ago 2
lt's always good to see old steam machinery brought back to life again,especially when they've lain forgotten and unloved for so many years..they deserve better. But,regarding the boiler,,l can't convince myself that it has ever been ex traction. Quite a few makers supplied either static or traction versions of basically the same units,the former being used in logging camps etc as semi permanent but moveable plant. The fire door and ash pan seem very low for a road engine. Could be wrong though.
crankbv1 11 months ago
GREAT, FANTASTIC
quintoflyer 11 months ago
Lovelly Engine guys! Good to see someone keeping the old traditions alive. Do you do anything with the power created? I.e. sawmills or anything???
Aerozine50 11 months ago
Fred Dibnah would be proud of your work, well done.
mumermento 11 months ago
nice Job..enjoyed watching your video. Old times not forgotten! Now where is your local card? IUOE??? :)
GarlandnDonna 11 months ago
happy old man...grab the tv tuner and turn on the westerns
barnbarn122 11 months ago
I am sure that the old fellow knows what he is doing.. presurre test and all
weldermaniacbob 1 year ago
I hope that boiler has been pressure tested!
Squarerig 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cycloneCJproducts 1 year ago
That's one happy boiler and steam engine. I think that's just great that you guys brought those back to life. I would have not thought to use an old steam tractor as a boiler, but it works perfect. Now all you need is a big ol' drive belt and an electric generator to hook it up to. Sure would be great if the power went out, or just to get off the dirty electric grid. That boiler could be run off of methanol or methane, two very clean renewable energy sources. Anyway, great job.
wolfmanradio 1 year ago
Wonderful to save these relics. I hope to have one myself someday. Thanks for sharing this very good video.
rwhendrix 1 year ago
Awesome job! Thank-you for preserving a piece of history.
mrsafety100 1 year ago
FANTASTIC ! I LOVE THESE OL STEAMERS ! GREAT JOB PAL !
decoysk 1 year ago 2
how did they steal these ?
hookuspookus529 1 year ago
I love it, that is awesome! Great job, thanks for sharing it. Obviously there are 9 people who have no sense of history.
rwisaacks 1 year ago
What a dream indeed! Impressive. Thank you for posting.
havblikk 1 year ago
73% less expensive to run on coal than diesel or oil
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
too bad people dont realize--they are cheaper to run- more powerful (torque)- and last forever(seldom break down) than modern engines...oh well...gas and diesel continue to to have a submission hold on us all...we could break free by going to steam again..imho
porpoisefathom 1 year ago 2
@porpoisefathom
Even though i would love to se more off these engines... But it only that even IF they are cheaper to run and more reliable, It still makes them way to dirty and they have a way to low power to weight ratio... An modern diesel at that size and weight would have about 3000Hp or more.. Lots more actualy XD
It's for a good reason the writght brothers made their plaine with a gas engine ^^ Steam is to heavy :S
kissa02 1 year ago
@kissa02 good point- but--now we have light boilers--high performance boilers , engines made from lighter stronger materials...and steam on hp-hp and wieght to weight basis is the same as diesel loco's- same weight same hp--in fact the modern steam train had more hp than any of todays diesel trains!..3000 hp at 150 rpms compared to 3000 hp at 3600 rpms for diesel. the steam wins hands down! i.e. 200 hp steam engine=1051 ft-lbs of torque vs about 750 for diesel of same hp rating.
porpoisefathom 1 year ago
@porpoisefathom The Doble steam car had 150 hp & 2200 fpt.
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
@kissa02 The Besler brothers flew a steam powered plane in 1933. Also, you could run an engine like this with a quality steam generator (also from the 30's) that's about 1/8 the size of this boiler. They won't burn a solid fuel but gas, diesel or kerosene works just fine & the fire is so hot that it's cleaner than most cars. If you want it even cleaner then you could fire it with propane.
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
Wow! Must have taken a lot of work to get them running, but it is amazing that these old babies can be brought back to life. Love the sound.
AbuAvital 1 year ago
Geez... There's full of Steam engines!
sparkster7744 1 year ago
BRAVO ! ! ! !
cidcampeador1952 1 year ago
Tootie I love it!!! Nice to see someone trying to preserve some heritage.
wattstang3 1 year ago
I am over joyed to see them saved! I wish it was me that owned them.
shadow3621 1 year ago
Get them running and you should be able to run both of them on the same boiler.
douro20 1 year ago
I would guess that the second engine you found was adapted to mill use from a railroad locomotive or a steam tractor.
longhornandsouthern 1 year ago
Trim off the first 4 minutes of 'twangy' Johnny Cash shit and the family picture album, and what you will have left is at least a nominally entertaining and informative video. At best.
WizardOfChicamunga 1 year ago
@WizardOfChicamunga, no one cares what you want, if you dont want to see the pictures just skip through them
NathansBackwoods 1 year ago
@NathansBackwoods LMAO!!! You're wrong Sparky! I care about what I want. If you post shit on here you gotta' take your chances just like everybody else. If you open yourself up for comments, you're gonna' get 'em! Some will please you and some won't. That's life tough guy! So don't be a pussy and take it like a man. If you are one!
WizardOfChicamunga 1 year ago
@WizardOfChicamunga, All im saying is your a stupid little prick, get over the fact that the video has pictures at the beginning, its not that big of a deal you little cock lick.
NathansBackwoods 1 year ago
@NathansBackwoods No dickwad! I'm not gonna' get over it you fat bag of shit! How's that? And my comment about that shit you call a video still stands! So now 'tootie' you can kiss my pootie! You fat shit-eater! And that loser family of yours looks like it was reared on shit same as you!
WizardOfChicamunga 1 year ago
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@NathansBackwoods You fuckin' pussy!
WizardOfChicamunga 1 year ago
@NathansBackwoods Don't make me have to stop what I'm doing just to come out there an' kick your big fat, in-bred, hillbilly ass all over them redneck woods!
WizardOfChicamunga 1 year ago
@WizardOfChicamunga, Im trying to get across is what you first said was really rude,Ex: At a car show, theres a car all painted up looking fresh, new wheels new interior. You dont say to him say "Wow couldn't you have chose a shittier car to restore, whats up with those gay wheels and the shitty ass pleather interior!" No you would not say that, in the back of your head you might, but the person should hear something like "Looks like you worked hard on it" Same concept applies to a video.
NathansBackwoods 1 year ago
@NathansBackwoods Now that we've been formally introduced (hahaha...we're both old school assholes) Wanna' shake hands and be friends? BTW, what's the HP of that monster?
WizardOfChicamunga 1 year ago
@WizardOfChicamunga, Yeah, that would have been a better way to confront you, I have said stupid things about people videos before to, I just felt bad about it later....I have no idea the HP, I would imagine around 30.
Glad we understand each other.
NathansBackwoods 1 year ago
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You are a trully American culture preserver, I can see you have a happy family surrounding you as well,,, congratulations sr,
n4120p 1 year ago
You are a trully American culture preserver, I can see you have a happy fa,ily surrounding you as well,,, congratulations sr,
n4120p 1 year ago
ha the kid threw a gang sign.lol i think?
1337bman 1 year ago
Really neat--gotta love those steam engines---whew wee!
micmoable 1 year ago
This is just plain cool, I'm glad these were found and resurected. I don't know much about the old days, but I know they were the good days.
Hillbilly8904 1 year ago
A really beautiful machine ... that is one man who knows how to enjoy himself :o]
straker1999 1 year ago
that kid loves the wide open shocker
wayknbayk 1 year ago
@wayknbayk LOL
onelonleyfarmer 1 year ago
I'm glad to see both engines came out of the "wooded grave" and operational. Is the other one with the vertical boiler a steam donkey?
9020powrmax 1 year ago
budda, steam power plants and ships do condense and re-use the exhaust.
MarmadukeSurfaceblow 1 year ago
why dont you collect the steam that comes out from the cilinder?
buddhafollower 1 year ago
Don't restore it, they're only original once!
KenMacMillan 1 year ago
years in the making
ribak1983 1 year ago
WOW Great Piece Of Art Work!!!!!!!!
speed9 1 year ago
I just love this video! Good job on the engines.
data2delete 1 year ago
Wow that is some accomplishment. I am curious though. Did you use the power of this external combustion engine to generate electricity for your home run a saw mill or just the fact that you restored her. Even if you didn't its quite an accomplishment.
scdarknight 1 year ago
it is depressing to see that old stuff rust away.
TheGarrettDressler 1 year ago
@0812201 Thanks for the response! Very interesting. The whole idea of the "injector" is an amazing concept to me. Took some smarts to come up with that device. I'm envious of your steam engines!
omyajt 1 year ago
Oh boy, I'll bet you were excited when you found these engines. What state are you in? How many psi do you run the engine you're operating in this video. You need a sawmill.
omyajt 1 year ago
wouldent running the mechine that slow burn down the shaft on the wheel prematurely because its not at a high enough speed to keep lubricated.
72fordmaverick 1 year ago
@0812201 No point in testing then since it's not possible to get a rating that is true. Tests mean nothing if everything else does not match up.....If you think steam is powerful then by all means stick by your opinion. I think a Youtube video of a test like this needs to be put up. I got a motor so maybe I'll do it. Just need to shop for a steam engine.
EETechs 1 year ago
@0812201 Then all I have too do is set the current limit to 600 amps which will double the torque from 4,500 to 9,000 Ft*Lbs or even triple it to 900 amps which gives me 13,500 Ft*Lbs. I still see no clear winner. You turn up steam pressure, I turn up the current limit.....
EETechs 1 year ago
@0812201 Gearing is not cheating because like I said if the HP occurs at a RPM other than what the competition does then the torque data will be different. Else the test is pointless. Just like diesel has more torque than gas, but if a 100 RPM, 5HP gas engine goes against a 5HP, 3600 RPM diesel then you can see the gas engine will win cause of its low rpm HP which is more torque based. If geared to 100 RPM though, the diesel will win and the will be matched RPM and HP.
EETechs 1 year ago
@0812201 Of course you could turn up the steam pressure to gain torque, but then all I have to do is set the current limit higher since more current = more torque for DC motors. I see no ultimate winner. It all depends what the weakest link is that could bring one down to the losing side. You could snap a rod or the DC motor could burn up from the high current draw.
EETechs 1 year ago
@0812201 The problem is at 200 RPM with 3,500 Ft*Lbs is 133 HP. Not quite a fair comparison against a 36 HP electric......At least I got some data. I just looked up a 125 HP at 1830 RPM DC motor. If the current limit is set at 300 amps armature then it states the torque will be 500 Ft*Lbs which in this case will be our torque at zero RPM. So about 9:1 ratio is needed to match the RPMs of the steam engine giving the motor 4,500 Ft*Lbs which is more than capable of destroying the steam engine.
EETechs 1 year ago
You can be proud. The boy in the video will remember this and you forever!
Wonderful job!
Jim
pangavamanos 1 year ago
@0812201 I bet $200 that any 150 watt steam engine you have would get owned by a 125 watt DC motor. I must select what DC motor it can be because I know the correct way to sel. Keep in mind that these are Continuous ratings. You are not allowed to take a continuous rated HP steam engine and then under rate the HP. That is cheating.
EETechs 1 year ago
@0812201 The torque curve you see for electric motors is a load curve at fixed voltage, not a rev torque curve like that of combustion engines. You must drawn in multiple load curves at different fixed voltages to get an idea of what the motor will do in a vehicle. Of course if the controller is a ON/OFF switch that applies 100% voltage or zero instead of varying it proportionally to that of the throttle position of the variable resistor, then of course that would also be its "rev curve".
EETechs 1 year ago
@0812201 Most likely you compared a low RPM steam engine to a high RPM DC motor. Not really a fair test. A DC motor would crush a steam engine in a torque duel off. It's like someone comparing a 900 RPM gas engine against a 3600 RPM diesel engine. Of course the gas engine is going to win because the HP is more torque based than RPM based. Next time you do the test be sure to gear the DC motor down to the same RPM as the steam engine. Also make sure the motor can source lots of current.
EETechs 1 year ago
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EETechs 1 year ago
What amazes me. These old engines still work after all these years. And people brag their car has 200,000 miles on it. If you found a car engine like that in a woods that many years it would be ready for the scrapyard. I will never get sick of listening to a steam engine.
Justy330 1 year ago
OH! This is vibrating and pulsing, as life is.
This is the great difference between modern engines and those ancient ones.
They had soul, or like here, they have life and soul. Great to watch. My fantasies flew around.
jflaviovidal 1 year ago
You sir are a lucky man! Thank you so much for the video :)
vexviper 1 year ago
looks like there's a clutch in the middle of the flywheel
Nza420 1 year ago
@Nza420 looks like a governor or perhaps a variable cut off, my guess is a governor
wisheywashey 1 year ago
Great seeing these machines saved so younger generations, like your grandson @ 5:05, can see what built America. Thanks for your good work!! Roy Lewis Atlanta, GA USA
rlewis1946 1 year ago
i love thease make and brake type engines this one is steam but it still makes me think some of the best music writers just sat around and listend to thease things lol
thecanadainredneck53 1 year ago
@0812201 Good luck with making the steam car!
You should try to make a solar powered steam engine to generate power. That would be an awesome project to try out. I wish I could do that but I don't have the necessary tools yet.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@0812201 Looks like you started an argument LOL! I watched the video, it's cute but it proves why steam cars are not used today. I ran out of words in my previous comment but I also wanted to mention start up time, safety hazards of small units, and P/W ratio. Although they can be very efficient when fitted with a superheater and heat recycling systems as well as cogenerators, they cannot deliver energy at a fast enough rate like the rate needed to acceleratte from an entrance to a free way.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@0812201 You're probably right. I read up on steam engines and if you design them right they can reach efficiencies of up to 85%. So efficiency is not an issue.
Then comes the inevitable question, why aren't piston steam engines used more often if they are so much better than electric and diesel? That's because they are horrible at accelerating. They are only good for operating at a continuous speed for long periods of time, hence why they are only used in power plants and not in cars.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@0812201 Actually, for the most torque, electric engines surpass most other engines in both torque and efficiency. But electrical energy storage is still a major problem that won't be resolved until quite some time. Good luck on becoming a nuclear engineer, I wanted to work on nuclear fusion technology to resolve the current energy situation but that's quite a hot topic and H bombs scare the hell out of me.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
@yellowmetalcyborg wrong
GundamKnight07 1 year ago
@GundamKnight07 I beg your pardon? Which part of my comment is wrong?
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
I hope he had the boiler checked.
slome815 1 year ago
As I watching your vid and when the whistle blew you need a bell LOL.
Cool vid!!
Stephen
83VF750F 1 year ago
I would be a bit nervous about bringing those boilers up to pressure.
metermatch 1 year ago
I really enjoyed your video. Those engines couldn't have gone to a better guy. I have a 1930's Stover Hit-N-Miss engine that I restored. Nothing made today has the soul that old iron has.
fadatuberadioman 1 year ago
bravo super working thanks
cengizbey 1 year ago
you were stupid for useing that damn toyota the trucks i work with would have moved 2 of those engines at once
generalleejesse 1 year ago
you were stupid for useing that damn toyota tbe trucks i work with would have moved 2 of those engines at once
generalleejesse 1 year ago
great video, ive been looking for something about half the size for my garden but no chance of just finding one in the uk id have to buy one and they cost thousands!
stevewoodhead 1 year ago
Now find an old dynamo off a junk elevator or out of a factory, belt it up
to that sucker and start making your own electricity!
Also run a 2" black iron pipe from the steam chest to the smokebox on
the boiler. That will give you extra draft and the steam will go up the flue
like its supposed to, (it'll also SOUND good chugging along).
Great job! We used steam traction engines on the farm when I was a
boy 60+ years ago and they are amazing.
4freespeech 1 year ago
haa nice steam mule haven't seen one of them in a long time
forresthop 1 year ago
@0812201 Ya,I know the feeling of putting an old machine through too much work. xD We own a 930 Case with cab but can't do much with it anymore because we pull wagons that are too big for it now.
maricklee 1 year ago
its funny to think if you guys didnt come alone the thanks it would have gotten would have been to sit and rust up
gravedigr12 1 year ago
I know that took lots of work, I know. But what fun!
susulovesjesus 1 year ago
Muito bom, parabéns!
Renimacedo 1 year ago
good on u tootie mate.if you get pissed off with it i live in liverpool england.i will accept the postage ha ha .be safe man
eatmypies 1 year ago
Lots of people say that steam engines are obsolete but that is the least bit true, only piston steam engines are obsolete. Steam TURBINES still produce about 95% of the world's power. It's kind of cool to look at nuclear power plants because they are a combination of the old (steam turbine) and the new (uranium fission). Steam turbines actually hold up better to intensive use than any other type of engine (diesel and such) hence why they are used in power plants.
yellowmetalcyborg 1 year ago
Steam Punk extraordinaire!
HugeJasFilms 1 year ago
Ooo
SpeedSerega 1 year ago
priceless in a "shtf" situation....
wilatemodel 1 year ago
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did you ever get the donkey engine running
01Carmaster 1 year ago
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did you ever get the donkey engine running
01Carmaster 1 year ago
did you ever get he first one up and running
01Carmaster 1 year ago
It's a donky engine on the trailer and thank you for video
MrYppiks 1 year ago