have not heard him do that for over 50 years broke me tears would not stop "Hendix on the Stradivarius. Pump up the volume." how does he do that? it's impossible! the lady can play the piano two synchronised instruments to see and to hear a beautiful noise did you notice that whoever was there was too stunned to applaud afterwards? the modesty of genius i only replayed it ten times
come on niguel kenedy ... its your only chance ... if you can pull this off ... something wierdly ... you got it ... you old man ... I dare you ... next year of your life wasted ... post it diammit!
come on niguel kenedy ... its your only chance ... if you can pull this off ... something wierdly ... you got it ... you old man ... I dare you ... next year of your life wasted ... post it diammit!
I love listening to classical music. But it would be better without reading so many pretentious, haughty comment under the videos. Thumbs up if you agree
I don't know why people are batching about the accompanist. She plays absolutely beautifully. and her finger work at the solo after 5:90 has an argerich like quality.
people are so childish. its a video on classical music and thats the stuff yall are talkin about??? immature...go argue on facebook or something....at least that would make more sense.
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Euch!! That pianist especially makes me remember why I hated classical music as a young child, reminds me of a couple of ugly music teachers I had. People like that reflect no fun or enjoyment in what they're doing, gives an impressionable, sensitive tot the idea that it's all grim and emotionless. This Oistrakh bloke's a big man isn't he? Makes the violin look like a toy. Not a good idea to stand in his way when he's got his eye on the buffet, I'd fancy. 'Less you wanna end up as roadkill.
@madmax8903 woah just because they remind you of " a couple of ugly music teachers" YOU had doesn't mean they actually " reflect no fun or enjoyment in what they are doing,and give the idea that it's all grim and emotionless." They make look stiff, rigid and not as wild and carefree as musicians nowadays but it doesnt mean that they don't enjoy it or there's no fun in it at all. I besides,that happiness they have is sometimes hidden in the way they immerse themselves in the music and performance
Oistrakh's jacket reminds me of what a butcher might wear. His play, however, is remarkable. My favorite belongs to Heifetz, but Oistrakh does things that I truly appreciate; such as jumping right into a new phrasing pattern & not overduing with excessive bowing & vibrato.
Oistrakh never felt that his harmonics were all that great. His left-hand pizz may not have been all that strong, but his harmonics were superb.
Surprisingly tame for Tzigane. I think the piece does much better with larger dynamic fluctuations... or maybe I'm just noticing the difference between live performances and video/audio recordings.
@cteno411 yes it is sl "tame" listen to kogan's version for some more beefiness raw power. however here we have the gentle giant of the violin the great and lovley mr oistrakh. he personna overflows when he plays one can feel his wonderfulness coming out from the violin. truly one of the greats
Yesterday night I heard this piece played on the Stradivarius Lady Tennant. It was a supernatural experience, and also an honor to be in the same room with that phenomenal violin. But my actual point is, this performance gets pretty close to what I heard yesterday. Thanks for posting!
Astonishing. Has anyone else noticed that there seemed to be a trend of great virtuosity in all the instruments in the twentieth century? Particularly between the 1920's and 70's? Oistrakh, Heifetz, Primose, Milstein, etc..
I watch many of these great artist play and I am amazed by the stupid remarks some people make about this and that mistakes they think they hear. they Should get hearing test. These are probably violinist themselves and are not aware that they can't even tune their violins as well as the people they are talking about.
listening to this again, I've noticed that it's an absolutely fantastic piano part! Perfectly Ravel. The violin doesn't exactly seem like Ravel, but then again, Ravel didn't composer much for violin. Fantastic piece
@iWyke2 , not he tuned, it is needed. Did you notice that the piano tuned lower that A440 too? Why? Because in the past, people use gut string but not steel string.
@007TheViolinist no, its definitely the sound quality. first, people still use gut strings (i do), and second, they have nothing to do with the tuning of an instrument.
this is the first time i have watched oistrakh play.
my teacher was a big oistrakh fan and thought his bowing was the best there was...so much that he styled his bowing after oistrakh's...which he passed onto me. yay!!!
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No, it's traditional Baroque style. I like it for most Baroque pieces, but it doesn't sound at all good for Classical or Romantic pieces. This piece resembles a Romantic piece more than any other genre, even Baroque, despite being written by Vitali, a Baroque composer.
You might want to check out your facts sometime. This piece was written by Ravel, read the title, who was far from baroque. The tuning is because of the recording, check out many of the old videos here, the greatest musicians did not play out of tune as the recordings would lead you to believe.
Few baroque pieces call for different tunings, a notable example is the 5th cello suite by Bach (a baroque composer, just in case you are confused) because changing the tuning makes it easier to play.
WOOPS! I guess I had pressed pause to listen to another piece and forgot this was Tzigane, not Chaconne (Oistrakh's interpretation)! I admit that was pathetic. Anyways, I'm familiar with the period this was written in. Anyways, I don't think that it's only a half step lower because of recording gear. All the recordings I've heard of him have this tuning.
Tell me what those recordings are, the name's of the company, and what dates they recorded. I've heard a good amount of recordings with Oistrakh. This is the frist to have this tunning. And even if all of his recordings had this tuning, I assure you that It wasn't because he felt like being special and tunning to 415 HZ. Trust me it's the recording.
@cellist18 This is very true, but some word of thought about their Generation and ours. We are always thinking about being in tune and playing all the right notes, when their main focus is the music. There indeed needs to be a balance of both, but it is not uncommon to hear some out of tune or wrong notes. Plus we are all human. These little mistakes shouldn't take away from the music, who cares if there is a little mistake here and there. We just need to sit back, relax and enjoy the show.
@cellist18 around this time period, many argued that the standard tuning note shouldn't be A440 and that it should be A432, so that may be why it sounds the way it does. Or like you said, it could be the old recording, I could see either being true.
not my favorite interpretation. definitely 5 stars for his playing, but the interpretation seems too... straightforward and business-like. not like the spicy, improvisational, gypsy feeling i imagine.
The point when playing Tzigane is not to be perfect but expressive and make it sound like an improvisation.I admire Oistrakh but he cannot play such pieces.Totally out of place.
I used to play this piece, and I didn't find the pizzicato section at 5:38 challenging, however, in 1:46, it took me hours/days of practise to get top G out smoothly, rather than scratch it! Its a great piece, & I quite like this recording. I dont find any particular fault with it, unlike some backstabbers who are obsessed with pointing out every tiny mistake. You cannot ever be completely PERFECT in performing. Everyone makes few mistakes in performance, that even the performer dosent notice!!
Oistrakh is one of my all time favorites but I just don't think this was his piece..and it happens. He plays it well but it's not his greatest work. Just because one is a master doesn't mean they are masterful with each composer. (He did nail the harmonics with great clarity-something they often have a problem with getting a little off) My personal favorite and wish I could find it again, Francescatti did an absolutely fabulous job on this, as flawless as I have heard it played.
Jesus Christ! The look he gives there at the end is so disappointed. He has naturally no reason to be, but he is the great Oistrakh... But I think my favorite part of that whole recording was the pianist. Those little tiny fingers just flying all over the piano. And then there's the kid sitting at the side, sadly turning the pages....
Okay, he may have tuned some strings low, but what about the fact that this is just a RECORDING? And an old one at that. A lot can happen to recordings over time, or a bad recording can distort everything in the first place. It may have sounded fine when he was actually playing this... but my ears honestly can't handle all these notes!
It's the playback equipment ......slower by about a semitone.If he tuned his violin lower, the accompanist would have to play in a lower key also. What would be the point?
To all of you criticising Oistrakh, a small note: Notice his face, and his body language before he starts....I am positive that he has been playing for a long time ON THE SAME DAY before performing Tzigane for this Video...He seems pretty exhausted......He definately is not in the mood of playing Tzigane.....Despite that, every flower has its beauty, Oistrakh, ferras, Heifetz etc.
you idiot, kavak260773. You think you have to know something to enjoy music?. Because of people like you, classical world have been reducted to a couple of persons in the society.
that's because for a variety of reasons(sound quality, or maybe wth, he just tuned lower at the time), the A is not tuned to 440, or the more and more common standard now a days, 442. that's why it might sound a little weird.
It's actually pretty well known. Just as an example, Milstein talks about Oistrakh's violin in his memoirs, which were published in 1990. And FYI: "loser" is spelled with one "o".
Never turn a gypsy musical exorcism into a romantic concerto. Oistrakh violates the gypsy spirit with the academic 'concerto approach'. It's that simple. He seems to think it should be elevated to the level of Mendelssohn or Brahms. Please! Play it like a savage: or at least a 'semisavage';))
Your comment does reveal a musical refinement and sophistication. However, you must realize, that Ravel is presenting here, a highly stylized rendition of this musical folk genre - with no pretense of being "genuine". To "dirty it up" would be out of character for Ravel.
you know ravel was a very well kept man. clean and always on time. very picky about little things. i'm sure he wouldve been really picky about people following his exact notes with no freedom otherwise, no matter how contradictory that would be to the idea of tzigane. Maybe this is Oistrakh's take on that theory.
I am smiling at your comment on Ravel and nodding my head in agreement--what I have read about him and how particular he was. I remember reading about someone (cant recall the name) purchasing rights to a piece and was going to make changes and Ravel was ready fight a duel with him over it. This was written for his friend Jelly to play but we have no recording. He did tour with Francescatti who did record it and was also a close friend, so I am sure it was to Ravel's taste. It was modernistic
I think Oistrakh always tried to keep things like this in mind with whatever he played. No doubt he took that into consideration-while it does have some "gypsy" flair it was written to promote a new instrument (that no longer exists, piano/organ like with "stops for different sounds)the piece sounds more futuristic and full of color and textures, not unlike the art that was so popular in Paris around this time (though Ravel did not associate his music with the art of the time)
Dear OriginalJimBeam: So now you think you can read Oistrakh's mind. You're one of those crackpots who think composers see colors & textures when they compose? Give poor Ravel a break! And your belief that Ravel was "futuristic" is pure rubbish. Tell me, who writes music like Ravel nowadays? Beethoven claimed to have written the Grosse Fugue for "a later time," but only because music critics of His day failed to analyze that movement as well as the last mov. of Hammerclavier. Bravo Uncle June!
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Dear OriginalMoonshooter: There you go again! Ravel ready to fight a duel? Ravel was a weak, sickly man who couldn't have fought his way out of a paper bag. The love of his life were his cats which he insatiably talked about as though they were his children.What about Oistrakh? No doubt you rate the amateur Bell higher. Notice that when Oistrakh plays it, images of Looney Toons characters aren't conjured up. Nothing is exaggerated.The integrity of the musical score is respected.Your Uncle.June.
While I agree that Ferras's interpretation may be a little more appropriate, I don't agree that Oistrakh's take is "calculated" or that he "doesn't get it." That's quite disrespectful to a great like Oistrakh, not to mention narrow-minded. I enjoy hearing a different, darker interpretation of a piece that I feel is often overly sappy.
After Christian Ferras, this is limp, romantic and calculated. 'Gloss' and polish do not serve this piece. It should be a frantic exposition of raw nerves and hot-blooded violence. In other words, it should be treated just as Ferras treats it. No disrespect to the great Oistrakh, he just doesn't get it. Too many years behind the Iron Curtin living as a thrall of the State Machine to remember being completely free, perhaps.
Why don't you defend his interpretation instead of bashing my criticism? I love Oistrakh, but he misses the spirit of this piece completely. You seem to believe this comment area is only for empty flattery. All you offer in his defense is that he "feels comfortable". Oh, that's insightful and deep.
thats just your interpretation of this concerto. People interpret music in different ways, that is why music is so great. I actually prefer Oistrakh's interpretation to Ferras's
I think it was played back a little slower from tape or lp.. everything is very flat.
Vipmaxp 4 hours ago
un zar
Alejandro43643 3 months ago
ianjakovenko 4 months ago
not the best tzigane.
annadasilvachen 5 months ago
i have to laugh and cry the same time when i hear that! O_O
WhiteSenjoAria 5 months ago
now that was just badass
m4dm3th0d 5 months ago
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come on niguel kenedy ... its your only chance ... if you can pull this off ... something wierdly ... you got it ... you old man ... I dare you ... next year of your life wasted ... post it diammit!
mtgtmtgt 6 months ago
come on niguel kenedy ... its your only chance ... if you can pull this off ... something wierdly ... you got it ... you old man ... I dare you ... next year of your life wasted ... post it diammit!
mallory161 6 months ago
SO POWERFUL !!!!!!
eliteinvierno 6 months ago
I can't stop watch this video: I'm sick!
By the way great music and so well played. Bravo Mr. Oistrakh!!!
disecheis 7 months ago 2
I love listening to classical music. But it would be better without reading so many pretentious, haughty comment under the videos. Thumbs up if you agree
levi777ish 8 months ago 21
@levi777ish just dont read them lmao
beetlejuice12332 7 months ago
@levi777ish I got an idea for you: listen to the music and don't read any comments after this one.
myrabbitrules 2 months ago
dayum Oistrakh plays the shit out of this
thosejaunes 9 months ago
I don't know why people are batching about the accompanist. She plays absolutely beautifully. and her finger work at the solo after 5:90 has an argerich like quality.
KearneyPiano 9 months ago
I don't know why people are batching about the accompanist. She plays absolutely beautifully.
KearneyPiano 9 months ago
14 people have Bieber Fever. :/
redpimpledasparagus 10 months ago 6
@redpimpledasparagus Why do I have to see the name of you-know-who in the comments of such beautiful music? -_-
SomeAnimeOtaku 2 weeks ago
very beautiful
tabbiemoose17 11 months ago
people are so childish. its a video on classical music and thats the stuff yall are talkin about??? immature...go argue on facebook or something....at least that would make more sense.
tabbiemoose17 11 months ago
If the video is slowed for some reason then the pitch will drop. My guess is that he tuned to 440 and actually played it much faster.
Dovgalyuk 1 year ago
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Euch!! That pianist especially makes me remember why I hated classical music as a young child, reminds me of a couple of ugly music teachers I had. People like that reflect no fun or enjoyment in what they're doing, gives an impressionable, sensitive tot the idea that it's all grim and emotionless. This Oistrakh bloke's a big man isn't he? Makes the violin look like a toy. Not a good idea to stand in his way when he's got his eye on the buffet, I'd fancy. 'Less you wanna end up as roadkill.
madmax8903 1 year ago
@madmax8903 woah just because they remind you of " a couple of ugly music teachers" YOU had doesn't mean they actually " reflect no fun or enjoyment in what they are doing,and give the idea that it's all grim and emotionless." They make look stiff, rigid and not as wild and carefree as musicians nowadays but it doesnt mean that they don't enjoy it or there's no fun in it at all. I besides,that happiness they have is sometimes hidden in the way they immerse themselves in the music and performance
gos11387 11 months ago
@madmax8903 childish comment. How old are you, 6???
shilloshillos 11 months ago
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@shilloshillos You know what? Fuck you.
madmax8903 11 months ago
@madmax8903 childish behavior. Get a life kid, and a girlfriend.
shilloshillos 11 months ago
@shilloshillos Got both, twat. I suspect it's you who have neither, nor much of a brain. Refer to my last message.
madmax8903 11 months ago
This is one of the greatest violinists of all time! How can anyone "not like" this performance?!?
I like the comment about 14 ppl missing the "like" button...LMAO!
Cyberarc 1 year ago
14 people missed the like button
28renesmee 1 year ago
oistrakh is maybe the greatest violinist ever...
gold7c 1 year ago
oistrakh is probably my favorite violonist. i don't know the pianist but she is awesome too. Really , this is a great recording.
gouloum2222 1 year ago
how do u pronouce Tzigane? zee - Gah - Neh? TSEH GANE?
DJNotNais 1 year ago
@DJNotNais /tsi.gan/
AdrianRojasF 1 year ago
David Oistrakh was an incredible violinist. I once heard him live. He was unbelievably great. Such a lovely quality sound.
cattleman6420012000 1 year ago
I like the way he tunes to Ab, I'm wondering why he does that.
uexdrukl 1 year ago
She goes faster than him for the first bar at 4:45 !
dysenterygary69 1 year ago
She goes faster than him for the first bar at 4:55 !
dysenterygary69 1 year ago
i love his movements...from the very start!
TheHaengbok007 1 year ago
the king not at is best
TheGaetano62 1 year ago
Oistrakh's jacket reminds me of what a butcher might wear. His play, however, is remarkable. My favorite belongs to Heifetz, but Oistrakh does things that I truly appreciate; such as jumping right into a new phrasing pattern & not overduing with excessive bowing & vibrato.
Oistrakh never felt that his harmonics were all that great. His left-hand pizz may not have been all that strong, but his harmonics were superb.
Bravo!
unclejuniorsoprano 1 year ago
genial
SYSREV76 1 year ago
Wow... haunting and intense! These are some very passionate players!
LeoMidori 1 year ago
0:37 Just like Zigeunerweisen eh?
YOUCANNOTDENY 1 year ago
@YOUCANNOTDENY totally!
MichaeliciousCZ 1 year ago
fantasztikus
llgeda 1 year ago
Wonderful. Oistrakh may be the best ever.
Thankyou so much for the post
123must 1 year ago
Surprisingly tame for Tzigane. I think the piece does much better with larger dynamic fluctuations... or maybe I'm just noticing the difference between live performances and video/audio recordings.
cteno411 1 year ago
@cteno411 yes it is sl "tame" listen to kogan's version for some more beefiness raw power. however here we have the gentle giant of the violin the great and lovley mr oistrakh. he personna overflows when he plays one can feel his wonderfulness coming out from the violin. truly one of the greats
themusicdr 1 year ago
most artist overdramatisize the interpretation of this piece... but this is pure and phenomenal
TempoFurioso 1 year ago
Yesterday night I heard this piece played on the Stradivarius Lady Tennant. It was a supernatural experience, and also an honor to be in the same room with that phenomenal violin. But my actual point is, this performance gets pretty close to what I heard yesterday. Thanks for posting!
mrOk333 1 year ago
this was hypnotising
jaac662 1 year ago
transendental, beautifully abstracted, playful and childlike, this is a potent piece Ravel at his best..
pebolooks 1 year ago
Astonishing. Has anyone else noticed that there seemed to be a trend of great virtuosity in all the instruments in the twentieth century? Particularly between the 1920's and 70's? Oistrakh, Heifetz, Primose, Milstein, etc..
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Jctankk 1 year ago
@Jctankk James Ehnes is not of asian descent... are you saying he's not a virtuoso?
LutenistDeMari 1 year ago
Brilliant!!!!
MrDove93 1 year ago
I watch many of these great artist play and I am amazed by the stupid remarks some people make about this and that mistakes they think they hear. they Should get hearing test. These are probably violinist themselves and are not aware that they can't even tune their violins as well as the people they are talking about.
fredhainen 1 year ago
¡¡¡¡ El MEJOR!!!
esyrkine 1 year ago
listening to this again, I've noticed that it's an absolutely fantastic piano part! Perfectly Ravel. The violin doesn't exactly seem like Ravel, but then again, Ravel didn't composer much for violin. Fantastic piece
werq34ac 2 years ago 2
As regards your comment about Ravel's writing for violin: that's the entire point of the piece as "gypsy" inspired.
moldyoreo 1 year ago
Not only is the piano part great, but the accompanist is also great!
A4440HZ 1 year ago
the greatest! listen to his Tchaikovsky's violin concert....!!!
gaemp 2 years ago
amazing.
shalindriaharam 2 years ago 2
he tuned his violin lower than A440
iWyke2 2 years ago
yeah i noticed that too
prayformercy4 2 years ago
I think its the film. Otherwise, the piano would be out of sync too.
calloffthedogs 2 years ago
is the video
Bautisnemo 2 years ago
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007TheViolinist 1 year ago
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Not he tuned. It was needed because of the string is not steel in the past but gut sting.
007TheViolinist 1 year ago
@iWyke2 , not he tuned, it is needed. Did you notice that the piano tuned lower that A440 too? Why? Because in the past, people use gut string but not steel string.
007TheViolinist 1 year ago
@007TheViolinist no, its definitely the sound quality. first, people still use gut strings (i do), and second, they have nothing to do with the tuning of an instrument.
carrottoponcrak 1 year ago
nicola benedetti's got nothing on him!
Candyandman 2 years ago
except fantastic good looks.
calloffthedogs 2 years ago 3
well said sir :-)
themusicdr 2 years ago
simplemente espectacular. mi idolo
violucho 2 years ago
This is the best that i heard in my life
MrsNobody72 2 years ago
CAN YOU DIG IT! this is a stunning experience
bscavuzz 2 years ago
I love the piano part from 0:00- 3:48! hahahhahaha.
But really, great piece from a master composer played by a master vioilnist
werq34ac 2 years ago 6
this is the first time i have watched oistrakh play.
my teacher was a big oistrakh fan and thought his bowing was the best there was...so much that he styled his bowing after oistrakh's...which he passed onto me. yay!!!
jasonkrick 2 years ago 2
wtf happens on min 4 05 till 4 10!!!
my gosh!, never heard something like that in my life
nietinho 2 years ago
Then you have still a lot to discover. Have fun!
kitchenfiddle 2 years ago 4
double stop trills
audioholla 2 years ago
the "Zar" of the violinist
salvuspater 2 years ago 23
Tzar*
carrottoponcrak 2 years ago
*Czar
malikrox 2 years ago
ALL THREE ARE CORRECT!!!!!
fraserdaly 2 years ago
writing a piece like this must be so hard
bantiro 2 years ago 3
I don't really like how he had his strings tuned lower than today's standard.
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I believe that is just the recording: I don't think Mr. Oistrakh would want to play with a piano tuned a half-step low!
BrianAllen1129 2 years ago 2
He did, though.
cjh37878 2 years ago
It's very likely the recording engineering.
ijsnyder 2 years ago 2
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No, it's traditional Baroque style. I like it for most Baroque pieces, but it doesn't sound at all good for Classical or Romantic pieces. This piece resembles a Romantic piece more than any other genre, even Baroque, despite being written by Vitali, a Baroque composer.
cjh37878 2 years ago
You might want to check out your facts sometime. This piece was written by Ravel, read the title, who was far from baroque. The tuning is because of the recording, check out many of the old videos here, the greatest musicians did not play out of tune as the recordings would lead you to believe.
Few baroque pieces call for different tunings, a notable example is the 5th cello suite by Bach (a baroque composer, just in case you are confused) because changing the tuning makes it easier to play.
cellist18 2 years ago 32
WOOPS! I guess I had pressed pause to listen to another piece and forgot this was Tzigane, not Chaconne (Oistrakh's interpretation)! I admit that was pathetic. Anyways, I'm familiar with the period this was written in. Anyways, I don't think that it's only a half step lower because of recording gear. All the recordings I've heard of him have this tuning.
cjh37878 2 years ago
Tell me what those recordings are, the name's of the company, and what dates they recorded. I've heard a good amount of recordings with Oistrakh. This is the frist to have this tunning. And even if all of his recordings had this tuning, I assure you that It wasn't because he felt like being special and tunning to 415 HZ. Trust me it's the recording.
ttryl09 2 years ago 3
6th too
iWyke2 2 years ago
@cellist18 This is very true, but some word of thought about their Generation and ours. We are always thinking about being in tune and playing all the right notes, when their main focus is the music. There indeed needs to be a balance of both, but it is not uncommon to hear some out of tune or wrong notes. Plus we are all human. These little mistakes shouldn't take away from the music, who cares if there is a little mistake here and there. We just need to sit back, relax and enjoy the show.
Rikatross 1 year ago 2
@cellist18 around this time period, many argued that the standard tuning note shouldn't be A440 and that it should be A432, so that may be why it sounds the way it does. Or like you said, it could be the old recording, I could see either being true.
Baytuch 1 year ago
@cellist18 What a pity that the recording became out of tune...
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uhhh this piece is a gypsy dance @_@ I'm pretty sure it's not classical.... it can be played as a classical piece but it's not suppose to =P
ricochet997 2 years ago
His strad from 1705 is called "Marsick" after the previous owner.
LosJonasson 2 years ago
Thank you!
7enlightenedtemplar7 2 years ago
it is a copy of strad actually, but he knows how to use it
crazy77town 2 years ago
I know he has a strad but what is the strads name?
7enlightenedtemplar7 2 years ago
not my favorite interpretation. definitely 5 stars for his playing, but the interpretation seems too... straightforward and business-like. not like the spicy, improvisational, gypsy feeling i imagine.
182278 2 years ago
Agreed. I think this is not an interesting performance and entirely out of character with the spirit of the music.
aardvaark069 2 years ago
hi i really need to know where to find this excerpt. in which recording dvd??
wezkert 2 years ago
so stately and graceful
jin12345678 2 years ago 3
I love him too!!
Gordancho 3 years ago
5:54 piano cadenza!
LegionMCR 3 years ago
As a response, I posted another one of Oistrakh's recordings -- the only perfect recording of the Tzigane I've ever heard.
playadom 3 years ago
The point when playing Tzigane is not to be perfect but expressive and make it sound like an improvisation.I admire Oistrakh but he cannot play such pieces.Totally out of place.
MIchaelYiochalas 3 years ago 4
When I say perfect, I do not mean note-perfect, but perfect in a musical sense.
I have listened to many recordings of the Tzigane, but only the one that I posted actually satisfies me, in a musical sense.
But certainly, I'm not claiming that he's the best -- Chacun son goût!
playadom 3 years ago
Why not perfect&
HrWandeler 2 years ago
I personally feel David Oistrakh had an unbelievable talent.He truly was so special and unique!!
cattleman6420012000 3 years ago
I used to play this piece, and I didn't find the pizzicato section at 5:38 challenging, however, in 1:46, it took me hours/days of practise to get top G out smoothly, rather than scratch it! Its a great piece, & I quite like this recording. I dont find any particular fault with it, unlike some backstabbers who are obsessed with pointing out every tiny mistake. You cannot ever be completely PERFECT in performing. Everyone makes few mistakes in performance, that even the performer dosent notice!!
crazycadenza 3 years ago
schöner Ton von Herr Oistrakh!
mystyksylence 3 years ago
schöner ton von Herr Oistrakh!!
mystyksylence 3 years ago
Oistrakh is one of my all time favorites but I just don't think this was his piece..and it happens. He plays it well but it's not his greatest work. Just because one is a master doesn't mean they are masterful with each composer. (He did nail the harmonics with great clarity-something they often have a problem with getting a little off) My personal favorite and wish I could find it again, Francescatti did an absolutely fabulous job on this, as flawless as I have heard it played.
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
Jesus Christ! The look he gives there at the end is so disappointed. He has naturally no reason to be, but he is the great Oistrakh... But I think my favorite part of that whole recording was the pianist. Those little tiny fingers just flying all over the piano. And then there's the kid sitting at the side, sadly turning the pages....
cellobren 3 years ago 2
I think its a dignified sober look of a violinist who just finished a great piece.
rwm1 3 years ago
Okay, he may have tuned some strings low, but what about the fact that this is just a RECORDING? And an old one at that. A lot can happen to recordings over time, or a bad recording can distort everything in the first place. It may have sounded fine when he was actually playing this... but my ears honestly can't handle all these notes!
leonardiddy 3 years ago
It's the playback equipment ......slower by about a semitone.If he tuned his violin lower, the accompanist would have to play in a lower key also. What would be the point?
minor7b5b9 3 years ago
He was a truly fabulous player. I loved his playing.
cattleman6420012000 3 years ago
Fantastic, though I prefer Lendvay's interpretation.
freeyourcrt 3 years ago
To all of you criticising Oistrakh, a small note: Notice his face, and his body language before he starts....I am positive that he has been playing for a long time ON THE SAME DAY before performing Tzigane for this Video...He seems pretty exhausted......He definately is not in the mood of playing Tzigane.....Despite that, every flower has its beauty, Oistrakh, ferras, Heifetz etc.
asteri383 3 years ago 5
let's be real. 5:40 is SOO DIFFICULT!!! and he performs it easily... not fair
LittleCatBead 3 years ago
It was like hendrix on the violin.
DrSamuels305 3 years ago
that is the most stupid comment I have ever heard.
minor7b5b9 3 years ago
perfect.
LittleCatBead 3 years ago
screw you kavak, but thank you mtava for answering POLITELY AND LOGICALLY
TheSlowRiders 3 years ago
you idiot, kavak260773. You think you have to know something to enjoy music?. Because of people like you, classical world have been reducted to a couple of persons in the society.
Mnacuspia004 3 years ago 5
i mean its good but why does the violin sound very much like a viola?
TheSlowRiders 3 years ago
to me if the low notes sounds like a viola its sounds good. of course low notes sounds best on cello though. melancholic and deep.
juliaCSL 3 years ago
Is it just me or at 4:57 he makes a mistake (repeats)
solodejameentrar 3 years ago
Happy 100 Birthday Sept 30, 2008!!!!!
lzva 3 years ago
Das ist halbe ton tiefer!!!!!!!!!Schade!
umcaca 3 years ago
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WHY DOES THE VIOLIN SOUND SOOO WIERD!?
TheSlowRiders 3 years ago
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Because he plays on the G string. You don't know anything about the piece and the instrument.
kavak260773 3 years ago
even the OPEN STRINGS sound different
TheSlowRiders 3 years ago
that's because for a variety of reasons(sound quality, or maybe wth, he just tuned lower at the time), the A is not tuned to 440, or the more and more common standard now a days, 442. that's why it might sound a little weird.
mtava002 3 years ago
this piece is really hard.
seems like a show piece to me
candyrox25 3 years ago
wat a BEASSSSSTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!
mannycabrito 3 years ago
When do you think would be a good time to try this piece?
dreamcaster555 3 years ago
At around 4:20 You can't tell me he's not gypsying the hell out this.
Kurtyoungblood 3 years ago
I love this piece. The only person before this one I've listened to is Maxim Vengerov, and David just blows Maxim away.
cfeAncient 3 years ago 3
give Leonid Kogan's rendition a try.
NestorAudinotviolins 3 years ago
the sound!!!!!! fantastic!!!!!! what violin is he playing on? Guaneraius? Strad? i love his rendition!!!!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
VanessaMaeFan18 3 years ago
A strad, and actually not a really great one. It's all him.
Mortimer123 3 years ago
someone's watched the art of violin...looser
jepdez 3 years ago
It's actually pretty well known. Just as an example, Milstein talks about Oistrakh's violin in his memoirs, which were published in 1990. And FYI: "loser" is spelled with one "o".
Mortimer123 3 years ago
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loooooooooser
jepdez 3 years ago
lol
hlaakso 3 years ago
he is playing on Stradivarius "Marsik" Cremona 1705.
blapi94 3 years ago
does anyone know where can I download ravel tzigane's music sheet for the piano and violin? thanks a lot
xXMoonlightFlowerXx 3 years ago
I'd like to know too. My friend wants to use this for a concerto competition and I'm thinking of accompanying her.
sanctusignis 3 years ago
beautiful pianist
raphael123321 3 years ago 2
...every maestro has his or her own style and individual sound. Oistrakh is a legend in his own right:-)
rossariffin 3 years ago
Never turn a gypsy musical exorcism into a romantic concerto. Oistrakh violates the gypsy spirit with the academic 'concerto approach'. It's that simple. He seems to think it should be elevated to the level of Mendelssohn or Brahms. Please! Play it like a savage: or at least a 'semisavage';))
semisavage 3 years ago
Your comment does reveal a musical refinement and sophistication. However, you must realize, that Ravel is presenting here, a highly stylized rendition of this musical folk genre - with no pretense of being "genuine". To "dirty it up" would be out of character for Ravel.
lourak 3 years ago 8
your comments are both very sophisticated. i think you`re both right, somehow.
viola989 3 years ago
Best tone I've ever heard. Wonderful! Thank you very much for posting.
cleopatra11 3 years ago
you know ravel was a very well kept man. clean and always on time. very picky about little things. i'm sure he wouldve been really picky about people following his exact notes with no freedom otherwise, no matter how contradictory that would be to the idea of tzigane. Maybe this is Oistrakh's take on that theory.
interex956 3 years ago 7
I am smiling at your comment on Ravel and nodding my head in agreement--what I have read about him and how particular he was. I remember reading about someone (cant recall the name) purchasing rights to a piece and was going to make changes and Ravel was ready fight a duel with him over it. This was written for his friend Jelly to play but we have no recording. He did tour with Francescatti who did record it and was also a close friend, so I am sure it was to Ravel's taste. It was modernistic
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
I think Oistrakh always tried to keep things like this in mind with whatever he played. No doubt he took that into consideration-while it does have some "gypsy" flair it was written to promote a new instrument (that no longer exists, piano/organ like with "stops for different sounds)the piece sounds more futuristic and full of color and textures, not unlike the art that was so popular in Paris around this time (though Ravel did not associate his music with the art of the time)
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
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Dear OriginalJimBeam: So now you think you can read Oistrakh's mind. You're one of those crackpots who think composers see colors & textures when they compose? Give poor Ravel a break! And your belief that Ravel was "futuristic" is pure rubbish. Tell me, who writes music like Ravel nowadays? Beethoven claimed to have written the Grosse Fugue for "a later time," but only because music critics of His day failed to analyze that movement as well as the last mov. of Hammerclavier. Bravo Uncle June!
unclejuniorsoprano 2 years ago
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Bravo indeed!
MercilessBrutality 2 years ago
like it very much
mekuchika 2 years ago
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Dear OriginalMoonshooter: There you go again! Ravel ready to fight a duel? Ravel was a weak, sickly man who couldn't have fought his way out of a paper bag. The love of his life were his cats which he insatiably talked about as though they were his children.What about Oistrakh? No doubt you rate the amateur Bell higher. Notice that when Oistrakh plays it, images of Looney Toons characters aren't conjured up. Nothing is exaggerated.The integrity of the musical score is respected.Your Uncle.June.
unclejuniorsoprano 2 years ago
While I agree that Ferras's interpretation may be a little more appropriate, I don't agree that Oistrakh's take is "calculated" or that he "doesn't get it." That's quite disrespectful to a great like Oistrakh, not to mention narrow-minded. I enjoy hearing a different, darker interpretation of a piece that I feel is often overly sappy.
dripdropchic 3 years ago 2
ke potenza!!!
acrifrancesco 3 years ago
After Christian Ferras, this is limp, romantic and calculated. 'Gloss' and polish do not serve this piece. It should be a frantic exposition of raw nerves and hot-blooded violence. In other words, it should be treated just as Ferras treats it. No disrespect to the great Oistrakh, he just doesn't get it. Too many years behind the Iron Curtin living as a thrall of the State Machine to remember being completely free, perhaps.
semisavage 3 years ago
here it goes again.
it's his approach, so don't bother his style.
he feels comfortable with what he plays so don't mess with him.
mackybueno123 3 years ago
Why don't you defend his interpretation instead of bashing my criticism? I love Oistrakh, but he misses the spirit of this piece completely. You seem to believe this comment area is only for empty flattery. All you offer in his defense is that he "feels comfortable". Oh, that's insightful and deep.
semisavage 3 years ago
thats just your interpretation of this concerto. People interpret music in different ways, that is why music is so great. I actually prefer Oistrakh's interpretation to Ferras's
issagele 3 years ago
ooh the first note was flat
curlyman217 3 years ago
its all flat. its an old recording. its a semitone out.
01lamond 3 years ago