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  • "It is obvious that Hitchens is proud of defending Holocaust denier..."

    Some people are incapable of rational thought. I laughed my ass off at the end of this video.

  • @HumaneAnon Its nice that he was cut off, but its annoying that he was aloud in at all. How dare he accuse Hitchens of being a Holocaust denier, last time I checked Hitchens came from an ethnic Jewish polish background. You may as well accuse Martin Luther king of being a segregationist because he mentioned it in speeches and said one shouldn't respond to it with violence.

  • Inspirational.

  • "Shame on you while you do this, make use of the time you have left."

    You did Hitch and we will carry on for you...

  • Excellent rhetoric disguising his hatred of freedom of conscience and speech. Such a deceptive little man. He hates self restraint and is an unrestrained bigot. His mother was a suicide and his father sold armd to Stalin. And incredibly prejudiced bigot.

  • @Youdamana This is a joke, right? Because if not, I cannot believe you watched what he said and see the irony of what you said.

  • This is deliciously wonderful, I love you Hitch !

  • Where can I find more of Andrew Moodie's commentary about this speech? I'd love to see what he has to say... I don't know anything about him (even if he agrees or disagrees), but it seemed like he was going to say something intelligent, at any rate.

  • It's a shame that the murderess Aileen Wuornos was executed when she could have been of great help to the legions of brave U.S. marines who torture, irradiate, mutilate & murder elderly men, young mothers & children of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan & Libya.

  • Wow, he only said one and a half sentences, but that stupid, horrific, narcissistic primate at the end really didnt understand any of the speech.

  • @shortfuse41

    What the hell are you talking about? Did you see part 1 of this speech? Hitchens says exactly what this so called "primate" simply repeated.

  • Wow, quite possibly the greatest speech I have ever heard him deliver.

  • Wow, quite possibly the greatest speech I have ever heard him deliver.

  • Where can I find the entirety of the speech/event?

  • grounds, guess, guesswork, hunch, idea, ideology, impression, method, outlook, philosophy, plan, position, postulate, premise, presentiment, presumption, proposal, provision, rational, scheme, speculation, supposal, suppose, supposition, surmise, suspicion, system, systemization, theorem, thesis, understanding

  • On page 723 of "Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus in Dictionary Form," Edited by the Princeton Language Institute, Barbara Ann Kipfer, Ph.D., Head Lexicographer (1993) ...we find the synonyms for: THEORY [n] hypothesis, belief -- approach, argument, assumption, base, basis, belief, code, codification, concept, conditions, conjecture, doctrine, dogma, feeling, formularization, foundation,

  • Imagine, articulating this speech when you were in grade 6, attending a catholic school?

  • MY HERO!

  • Unequivocally Hitchens' best speech on Youtube. This of course, is saying quite a lot. This speech ought to be added to his list of classic works on the subject of free speech.

  • To that guy at the end. I would say. "You don't get it mate. Hitchens is defending his and by proxy everyone's right of free expression.".

  • "Where are your priorities ladies and gentlemen?"

  • Breath man!

  • When he says, "Where's your piddling subsection now?" I get goosebumps. I can't explain it exactly. My guess is it's just been so long since I've seen someone both show some intense moral outrage and actually respect liberty at the same time.

  • @darwinkilledgod Yea you never see it that anymore sad to say..

  • @darwinkilledgod For me the line is "where are your priorities, ladies and gentlemen?"

  • [I reckon that the opposite of stay-at-home mom is go-to-work dad.]

  • Shirley Booth played Hazel

    With her big white bra

    She never stopped

    Luring men into her confidence who were bra salesmen at Kmart

  • Which law is he opposing? I dont understand what anti-blasphemy has to do with fags and Jews

  • @MamaMario13 The point he's making is that Christians and Muslims who call for the execution of Jews and homosexuals, are the ones who want protection from any criticism of their religion, which they have the nerve to call "hate speech". It's a double-standard.

  • @rationalsalvation I know, hypocrites

  • Closed it after 12 seconds, stupid southern cunt.

  • Hitchens is brilliant, brave and engaging

  • Im very glad that I happen to agree with Hitchens on most issues (including this one).. because I would hate to have to be no the recieving end of one of his arguments.

  • he said adrenal glands. NOT testtosterone.

  • Rare form here, I think.

  • Where can I find the full debate?

  • @wormdrink414 Dont know.. But its at: Hart House, University of Toronto, Nov. 15 - 2006

  • 3 People dont understand the speech.

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  • @russmckinley

    Anti-semitism isn't about the religion, it's hatred of the Jewish race/ ethnic group - there's a reason it's not called "anti-Judaism". "Semitic" used to refer to the languages of that name, now it usually refers more specifically to the Jewish people. Hating Arabs would be more similar. Hating Judaism or hating Islam is fine - and by extension ridiculing them is fine. Religions are world-views.There's a difference between hating a world-view and hating people for their ethnicity.

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  • @russmckinley

    Precisely, hence the difference between anti-semitism and Islamophobia (which sounds worse than it is). Just to clarify my position, hating people because of their religion is distinct from hating the religion itself. Islamophobia is an example of the latter, anti-semitism is an example of a combination of the former and racism. People who hate the Islamic or Jewish religions are not racists, people who hate Muslims and Jews can't be called "racists", but they're the equivalent.

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  • @russmckinley No, because anti-semitism is prejudice against jews (the people, not the religion). Islamophobia is the fear of the religion of Islam and of the consequences of such a retarding world view (just as one can be afraid of any negative impact of Judaism).

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  • @russmckinley sure, call it anti-judaism. The fact that you've never heard it only means that there isn't a holy war being raged by Jewish people and thus no one is afraid of the religion. why don't you think about it????

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  • @russmckinley your use of ad-hominid attacks makes this my last comment. Jews own 90% of the american media, and that's why you haven't heard a word... great point. Christianity says that rocks should be thrown at heathens, but like the 'beast' idea that you brought up, problems should be dealt with when they arise. confront the jews who infringe on human rights and leave it, duh. it's really revealing when you call me kiddo and say things that bolster your own intelligence.

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  • @russmckinley what? I never said that anti-semite isn't a label that is misused or abused. I just made the distinction between hating people and hating an idea. what do you think is offending me? ad-hominid attacks basically negate your argument, and that's why I find this conversation useless. To quote the mighty Hitch, "What are you talking about, my good sir?" Call me a 'useless fucking person' again, but do it without a keyboard. Fuck. Some people's children these days

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  • @russmckinley stop talking. You don't make any sense and you don't have any points. Now you really do sound like an anti-semitic. If you critique the religion or critique the media censorship or manipulation due to theological influence, by all means do it. But to be honest you seem like a crackpot who'll accept any conspiracy theory out there. You're just a walking, talking bag of nonesense

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  • @russmckinley lol what the fuck buddy? who said that I hate people who are from the middle east? that's right, you did. wor, fuck off

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  • @russmckinley I said you sounded like an anti-semite, and I stand by that. How does saying the same thing without any ground make me the ignorant one? You're scum

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  • @russmckinley this is another WTF moment. If you would have said 'I don't like how Jews force their children to be circumcised' I would have to agree with you. What you went on and on and on about was how a LOT of Jewish people holds executive positions within the media industry (I never would deny this, either), but the fact is that you make yourself sound like a conspiracy theorist who wears an aluminum hat that actually hates Jewish people.

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  • @russmckinley I guess there isn't much else to respond to, because all you can do with your pseudo-intelligence is call me fucking stupid and a racist... Right. Prepare to be blocked, you troll

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  • Who the hell is the dumb moron at the very end? Seriously?

  • @AsEasyAsEasyIs "abortion (infanticide/genocide)" ACTUALLY Christopher hitchens is pro-life. You don't sound like you have ever heard or read anything about hitchens at all. How is he a revisionist historian? ""atheism"/Darwinism (the denigration of personhood/self-sovereignty)" He doesn't believe in social darwinism, and neither did Charles Darwin. Social darwinism is NOT darwinism. Anyone who thinks so knows nothing of history

  • Christopher Hitchens, on T.V. & in his books, promotes empire-building. He champions the facilitating of U.N. expeditionary forces, on the Thomas Woodrow Wilson's war model of 1918, to police the globe. Hitchens is anti-Republic, anti-free speech. He yearns for a world mirroring Orwell's opus "1984" whereat the State controls the flow of information. Non-readers are oblivious to the hatchet job Hitch did on Thomas Jefferson.

  • @AsEasyAsEasyIs

    What video did you watch?

  • @AsEasyAsEasyIs lol stfu you troll

  • Degenerated dipsomaniac Hitchens promotes the Rockefeller-Kissinger model of American-Anglican empire that will last into the 22nd century. It is a modernist/corporatist feudal system, with elements of mercantilism, designed to destroy federalism, and the free market economies they beget, planetarily.

  • @AsEasyAsEasyIs Hitchens hates Kissinger, kiddo.

  • Who the Hell was the nigger at the end! LOL

  • Great speech. Top stuff Hitch!

  • The two dislikes don't believe in free speech? Lol.

  • I hope that dude at the end had more to say and that the cut off just took him way out of context. Being that this aired in Canada, however I doubt it.

  • "Stay cool Canada!" hahahaha

  • This is perfection. 

  • whos that black guy at the end? was this on a tv show?

  • Brilliant and transcendent lucidity. I wish more people spoke like this.

  • @alolfan1 I suspect that more have the capacity than the bravery to use it. 

  • "proud of defending him" That´s sooooooooooooooooo foolish as to be hardly worth replying to, you just heard Hitch´s reasons, or were you so deaf blind and stupid as not to hear?

  • I've probably seen all the speeches Hitchens has in YT and this is without doubt the best one of them. He uses language so geniusly and skillfully that it's as if you're listening to a good piece of music. Also have to agree with him on the topic. Freedom of speech gives you the freedom to hate and basically say what the fuck you want.

  • One of if not the best speech I've heard him make, he was in the zone on this one. The flow was almost musical; I'd love to acquire a similar mastery with words but the sad truth is I'm about 20,000 books behind him. The mans paid his dues by reading more books than I've had big macs (I eat a lot of Big Macs) and has earned all the praise that comes his way. Bravo to Chrostopher and here's hoping he has plenty more rants of this quality in him yet

  • This is the best lecture I have heard is a very long time. Hitchens at his best!

  • This is the best defense of free speech and best attack on moral relativism I've ever heard. Hitchens is my hero.

  • One of his best performances. Hands down.

  • When a Muslim says to kill an infidel, should this be banned?

    The free speech restricter says no.

    When I says the book that says to kill infidels has immoral preachings, should my speech be banned?

    They will say yes.

    HOW FUCKED UP IS THAT

  • "Ridicule, hatred, and comtempt" for religion= hate speech. He is being true to his bolshevik ties.

  • I don't understand your point. The topic upon which he was commenting was:

    Be It Resolved: Freedom of Speech Includes the Freedom to Hate.

  • I am not saying that he doesn't have the right to say what he has to say, but I am saying that he is most definitely a hatemonger and given that rights must be balanced with responsibility and accountability, he must accept any consequences that are a result of his remarks. Trotsky and Lenin, his stated mentors, were responsible for the most massive violations of free speech rights and human rights in history. Religious speech is also free speech.

  • @bantumwt Have you ever even entered a classroom?

  • @PinataMan The man is a flaming anti-religious bigot who is much more blather and bigotry than reason.

  • @PinataMan The world has already the kind of free speech spoken of by the bolsheviks. Hitchens is an actual trotskyite/bolshevik, and a great admirer of Lenin. That speaks volumes to me about his "free speech". Very dangerous man.

  • @bantumwt As far as I am aware, that's not actually true, anymore, and hasn't been for many years.

    You appear to be making the "Glenn Beck argument", which is that, if you admire or agree with any part of an ideology or belief that can be linked, no matter whether it logically follows from it, to human misery or death, you are therefore somehow implicated in that.

    That's obvious nonsense. And if it were true, not one person would be free of implication, including yourself.

  • @FunkyJogaBonito He still admits his ties to Trotsky, whom many consider to be the first neocon and he calls himself a Marxist and a great admirer of Lenin. That pretty much seals it for me. The man is dangerous to anyone who values freedom.

  • @bantumwt But again, unless you can show that he actually supports oppression, you really don't have an argument.

    I completely disagree with his stance on certain strains of Islam, but at least I've taken the time to understand his far more nuanced position than some would give him credit for.

    It is a statistical certainty that you also believe some of the things that Trotsky and Lenin did, and also a large proportion of Marxism (however defined), so you need much more than that.

  • @FunkyJogaBonito Actually when someone calls for "ridicule, hatred, and contempt to be shown for religion " and they have his credentials - that pretty much says it all. Hate speech is hate speech. If it was some nazi sayng such things it would be no different. The bolsheviks were responsible for many times the atrocities of the nazis.

  • @bantumwt Any idea, and particularly one that is often as superficial and intolerant as certain aspects of religion, can be treated with ridicule and even contempt, in certain circumstances, but I would agree that "hatred" is going too far, although context is important.

    There's nothing contradictory about criticism (and even contempt) of a belief and also respecting the rights and dignity of those who accept that belief. That's an important distinction, in my opinion.

  • @FunkyJogaBonito Let me make my position clear - There has never been a more deadly group of people in all of human history than the bolsheviks. An estimated 130 million dead during the 20th century. A primary target for them was religion and the religious. So when someone is slamming religion and claiming to be a Marxist and a Leninist - it's time to take notice. Never again.

  • @FunkyJogaBonito I certainly do not agree with everything about religion or specific religions BUT the problem is not religion, the problem is extremism, which includes religious people, atheists, and anyone else holding extremist views. The problem is people. Hitchens has a personal axe to grind against religion and that is offensive and bigoted.

  • @bantumwt "I certainly do not agree with everything about religion or specific religions BUT the problem is not religion, the problem is extremism..."

    The problem is extremism?

    What word is synonymous with extremism?

    Fundamentalism.

    Anyone will with a grain of wit will understand my point. Faith is rotten at its very core, which is why the least fanatical of the religious are those who adhere most tenuously.

  • @TheYellowTelevision Well if that's the case then then the 130 million killed by atheists in the 20th century must have been killed by fundie atheists, I guess.

  • @bantumwt Many consider Trotsky to be the first neocon?? Just when you thought you had heard it all before. Anyone who thinks such nonsense obviously has NO understanding of the definition of the word conservative. Hitchens is also a great admirer of Dr Johnson, GK Chesterton et al does that make him a fully paid up member of their club too going by your fatuous logic? Your argument appears to be merely the spewing of McCarthyist propaganda rather than tackling the points Hitchens makes.

  • @CosmosLoyal  I think you need to brush up on your history a bit. American neo-conservatism not conservatism (there is a difference) can very much be traced to trotskyism - especially regarding support for militarism in the Middle East. The link runs through Shachtman. As far as Hitchens goes he is/was an avowed Trotskyite and marxist/leninist. far more committed than simple admiration.

  • @bantumwt : Hitchens has himself pointed out on CNN that he is not a conservative.

  • @shystylzyt I never claimed he was a conservative, but his stand on certain policies such as militarism in the Mid East and some economic policies are identical to those of the neoconservatives. He is leftist on most other things. There is a difference between the neocons and conservatives. Neocons are generally globalists. Conservatives tend to be more nationalist.

  • @bantumwt I was corroborating your point. Neocons are not conservatives. They are mainly pro-interventionist liberals and center-liberals. Worldwide democracy enforcement has little to do with conservatism.

  • @shystylzyt

    I disagree. Neo-Cons are war hawks. Conservatives to the extreme. Pro-interventionist liberals? What are you talking about? After the neo-cons lost the ability to fear-monger the U.S. populace by carpet bombing them with cold war fears, they turned to the war on terror for yet anohter source of fear. The Neo-Cons ARE conservative they arnt even close to being liberal. They are extremist conservatives intent on the deliberate creation of deficits The most evil ppl on the planet

  • @bantumwt CH opposes fascism which aligns him with neo-cons of the noughties, unfortunately and sadly liberals never did.

  • @bantumwt

    Christopher hitchens only conservative position is the war, and the only reason hes pro-iraw war is for much larger, much more broad and universal reasons. He has socialist reasons, I.E. he's a trotsyist far left socialist who believes, like all socialists, that all men are brothers. He believes in protecting the kurds..but he is liberal in every other regard. He also is a contrarian which means he doesnt take any one side he things every issue out carefully

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  • I think he says "our adrenaline glands are too big and our thumb-finger opposition isn't all that it might be" as opposed to the testosterone comment.

  • @tomthefunky the adrenaline gland is what he refers to, not testosterone levels. I hardly think a testosterone fuelled mammal like Hitch would decry the androgen steroid hormone that gives him the fire in his belly. So to speak.

  • @tomthefunky You said testosterone when he said adrenal glands. MISOGYNIST! You MUST be SILENCED! You and your 12 thumbs-up disciples.

  • @spe4kfr34ly The reason why you are so dumb, is because he is just as critical of christianity, so how are you even making a point here.

  • @spe4kfr34ly

    The average joe US citizen could give 2 squirts of shit about Islam and arabic people. We do not hear of Muslim humanitarism because body counts of terrorists that are muslims take the headlines.

    If you are muslim and not a terroists, than join the fucking fight against them or shut the fuck up No one cares about you if you are not part of the problem.

  • i find nothing wrong with what alexgoldhill is saying, and i welcome this freedom of speech. i do however, have the following to counter vis a vis Hitchens:

    1) the claim that religious belief is used as attack on ethnic group, then describe the 'anti-semite' argument that's constantly thrown in people's faces in canada, usa, europe, especially where israel is concerned. now place that next to 'islamophobia' and please tell me the difference in their use today. keeping in mind, of course, that

  • Can everyone please stop mindlessly thumbing down or up comments? I strongly agree with Hitchens on a lot (probably most) of issues, but there is no need to thumb down the "AlexGoldhill" comments below me. The point of the thumb down is to control profane users.

    The second you downthumb something just because it goes against wat Hitchens says makes you no better than the theists blindly following their faith. Try writing a response instead.

  • DesertFox - You've heard of Occam's Razor?

  • yes. Essentially it holds that the simplest explanation is usually the better one.

  • Whilst I agree with a lot of the things that Mr Hitchens has said, I respectfully disagree with his claim that the main source of hatred is religion. like virtually all human concepts, religion is often used as an excuse to hate someone, with the actual cause being a variety of other things, such as; politics, greed, irrational hatred or nationalism to name a few. Whilst there have been occasions where the cause was religion i.e. The Crusades, there have also been other factors that contribute

  • Such as the land that the various nobles and soldiers could gain, the fact that such a war would be able to unite and synergise the nation, premptivley striking a rival power and removing a rival to papal authority (which was as much polkitical as it was religious at the time)

    Some of you may disagree with this, but as the internet is a place of free speech you are entitled to say so, just don't expect me to take it lying down

  • As long as I live, I don't think I'll ever understand how fully grown adults can be taken in by a "holy" book so supremely, stunningly retarded and morally poisonous as the koran. Wake the fuck up. Break out of your trance.

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  • Humans are irrational. Thye very essences of our societies are essentially figments of our imagination, i.e. nations, laws, moralityh, honour, justice and any other human concept you can name. This is not entierly a bad thing. All of our inovations and ideas come from this imagination, and I have chosen to see humans living in a dream world as a positive thing. Religion is just the tip of the iceburg.

  • @Iambecome

    OR the bible OR the torah. Would it be safe to assume you think all these holy books are equally retarded? If not then I'm afraid to say you may be more deluded than you could hope

  • @thegreatestbak3

    You foolish man. The Koran may be ridiculous but you have the arrogance to impugn the The Bible? It's the distilled word of Almighty God, and is a beacon of moral guidance and righteousness in a world of wickedness and sin.

    ...Just kidding, they're all retarded.

  • @Iambecome you twat, you had me going there for a moment ha ha ha ha

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  • @Iambecome but why limit this to koran?

  • Did the guy at the end even listen to the man's speech? He wasn't defending the position of denying the holocaust. He was defending the right of an individual having to express controversial views.

  • Well, because it's cut off you can't tell whether the guy understood that or not.

    He is right, Hitchens was, at this point, proud to defend David Irving (though their relationship has cooled somewhat since then), which is tantamount to defending the right to deny the holocaust.

    And there's nothing wrong with that in my opinion, and this guy may not think there's anything wrong with it either.

  • Descartes - "I disagree with what you have to say but I will fight to the death your right to say it."

  • Voltaire, surely.

  • Sorry, you're right! Voltaire. I got my French philosophers confused.

  • Voltaire

  • The speaker at the end clearly mis-understood Hitchens, he was not defending the arguments of Holocaust denialism, but the right that this man should be allowed to speak his views about this particular subject without intervension, or silencing.

  • pretty ironic that people are giving thumbs down to comments on a video about the benefits of free speech. Sure, you have the right to judge others comments, but i'd say a reply is more productive then trying to eradicate the comment

  • It's even more ironic that your passing judgment on an individuals method of selection, of comments they may or may not agree with. When clearly chrissy hitch expresses his distaste for the materials.

  • so i'm clear, what do you mean when you say the materials?

  • I can only assume that the guy at the end of this video didn't listen to a single word Hitchens said. He must have been sucking on a lollipop or something.

    Hitchens, as always, articulate, well-versed, uncompromising, and provocative.

  • The guy at the end is an idiot.

  • @kaisessh93 Seriously. What the fuck was that anyway.

    

  • @kaisessh93 the semi-literate language (the fatuous "...hitchens is proud of defending...") he chooses is enough to agree.

  • whoa good speech very brave to say it i am not stating i agree or dissagree but i hope hes safe

  • The guy at the end is a complete tool. Thanks, but we're smart enough to not need your benighted play-by-play of Hitchens' speech.

  • Oooh Hitch, you're so dark and handsome in this video :>

    As usual, no one says it better.

  • This man is wonderful, he speaks so much sense and gives me so much inspiration to stand up for what I believe in and not to be scared of others when I speak my mind.

    xxx

  • "defending the holocaust denier", that's just stupid, it's about freedom of fucking speech, not the fucking holocaust.