In my 20 years as a chiropractic doctor with 18,000 active patient files, seeing 500+ pv/week, I can recall thousands of chiropractic miracles that occured in my office. Organized Medicine and Big Pharma doesn't want the world to hear nor recieve chiropractic. There isn't money in healthy people. Chiropractic reaches the cause not suppress the symptom= supress the body. Chiropractic for all!!
@kobidobidog U, C, S, only...U,C,S, is good...Sorry to say it but it just sounds like recorded advertising...
What`s the deal with you man? If U,C,S is so great why don´t u go talk about it at some U,C,S youtube video instead of this chiro demo?
I really don´t get u kobidobidog, though u seem like an ok guy your comments are just getting me as far from U,C,S as possible, as I really dislike when someone tries to utterly convince me of something...just an opinion
bisesik, still not sure what you are on about here, yeah? A chronic muscle shortening or any muscle group attached to any part of the c-sp is going to create malposition of that part of the c-sp vis a vis normal neutral. Another way this could be phrased would be that a "malaligned spine" results. You just said the same thing, but focused on the mechanism whereas the chiropractor might focus on the resultant affect on the spine. Do think it through. Just look at it from another perspective.
Yes an infant can incur a musculoskeletal injury during birth or in the womb but muscular injury would be the nature. Most ailments would be neck torticollis, which a chiro would tell you is the malaligned spine, but for an infant would be neck muscle injury or prolonged position and resultant muscle shortening.
Talk to a pediatrician regarding an infant, certainly not a chiropractor. The joints are very resiliant in young children and especially infants. Very malleable joints, even those which in the future will fuse such as cranial sutures. How could any chiro responsibly justify adjusting an infant? The spine has not even fully developed. I've seen videos of these "adjustments" and they take an infant or a toddler in the same motions as an adult without the velocity - does NOTHING!
A infant should be evaluated by an upper cervical; specific only. Their scientific instrumentation can determine if the spinal nervous system is working properly, and if a repositioning of the atlas is necessary. Duff Method way of measuring. This is taught at Sherman Collage.
@kobidobidog - thanks for writing off the personal experiences of thousands upon thousands of chiropractic patients (and their chiropractors) as being unimportant. Luckily the members of the NZ Royal Commission of Inquiry into Chiropractic knew better than you do.
@jns, you can tell from kobidobidog's posts that the model of chiropractic there is purely structural alignment in nature. In that view of chiropractic, an out of alignment vertebra somehow causes dysfunction in the nervous system. The chiropractors I know who have been looking for a more futureproof paradigm ahead, think the opposite. A dysfunction in the nervous system culminates in altered motor output which generates a misalignment or fixation (or both) of the vertebra.
@bmsnz Correct,and a dysfunction can begin can potentially happen with a traumatic birth or even a c section. This means if we truly care we will have U,C,S, doctors in the hospitals- wherever to care for whoever to balance the body, balance the health to make whoever better,and help keep them that way. The scientific objective instrumentation of an U,C,S can determine if an adjustment is needed or not. Diversified,full spine chiropractors ,and mixers must to be avoided.
@kobidobidog Getting chiropractors into hospitals requires a process. More chiropractors need to gain professional post grad quals. And I don't mean certs that no one recognises. Also chiropractors need to identify very specific situations for their approach to be trialled on. If positive effect is demonstrated, then show how chiropractors can work successfully within a larger healthcare team. BTW I'm sorry that you express such parochial and unfounded sentiments against your own colleagues.
@bmsnz Chiropractic that uses cavitations does nothing more than pop joints like it pops knuckles. Will not support that kind of useless technique, the two different techniques went by the same name, not anymore, do not call them Chiropractors "U, C, S, upper cervical specific". An infrared scanner called the Tytron that is noninvasive can help to see if there are any unseen problems to help determine if x rays will be needed. Adjustment is very gentle. Qualified U,C,S, on upcspine should work.
@kobidobidog Your comments are totally unprofessional. The NZ Commission of Inquiry received written notes and sworn testimony from thousands of NZ chiropractic patients who had experienced first hand benefit with chiropractic care, most had received Gonstead or Diversified. To say that they were treated with "useless" technique and that their chiropractors were just popping joints is wrong on so many different levels. Your denigration of other members of your own profession is revealing.
@bmsnz I am an upper cervical specific advocate by choise. There is a distinct difference between the two schools of techniques. Gonstead, and diversified are not good techniques at all.
A persons own objective observations are not scientific at all.
OK kobidobidog, re: "There is a lot you do not Know" now you are suggesting that I am ignorant about chiropractic, a field that I have spent many years of involvement with. Thanks but no thanks. Your unprofessionalism is quite something. Maybe you can respond directly to my remark that thousands of NZ'ers who experienced Gonstead and diversified care wrote and gave testimony that they were helped by those techniques. Back your assertion that they "are not good techniques at all."
@jns124able Fact remains diversified full spine techniques are popping of the joints. Patients observations are not scientific. A person can have a problem, say they are fine, and structurally show that there is a problem. I see this all the time. Nerves control functions of the body that give no indication by pain if they are not working right, hence a patients observation is not good enough no matter What the patient sworn testimony is. Brain has to communicate with the body U, C, S, helps.
Re: insulin. It is anecdotally common for chiropractors to hear Type I and Type II diabetes patients mention (complain?) after their first one or two adjustments that their blood sugar levels either spiked or fell abnormally within one or two hours of their first treatment, for no other known cause. Often these are patients who have monitored their blood sugar levels for years and remark that such an incident is somewhat "out of the ordinary" for them. Who knows what is going on there.
By the way I noticed you made several remarks about not taking infants to a chiropractor. Not quite sure where you are coming from with this in terms of rationale (I've only read the recent posts) but for a few infants, being seen by a chiropractor is going to be extremely beneficial. A competent chiropractor will deliver stimulating forces to an infant's spine equivalent to a small fraction of the forces applied by an MD to a neonate's spine during the facilitation of a normal vaginal birth.
Hey jns. I find that the basic chiropractic principle that there is intelligent command and control of the body's physiology is fundamental and quite useful because it provides a problem solving framework. Unfortunately what has occurred is that some chiropractic grads are being taught the over-arching principle but not being taught how to reason from this to a deeper, multi factorial level. Probably because their tutors rote learned the same.
@jns124able when the nervous symptom is not working where ever it is not working will cause the body to not work properly. Nerves are vital for the body to operate to its optimum. Have the disk wear down on one side, and that nerve is going to not be able to do its job as well as with a healthy disk, logic. That is why whoever has a problem. Insulin is not the answer. Prevention, U, C, S, treatment is the answer. Have body balanced early in life possibly as early as birth. Trained U, C, S, only.
@kobidobidog you arent following the line of discussion...and didnt understand the comment about insulin. Not to be rude...but this isnt a line of discussion I care to pursue. For a type 1 diabetic...insulin IS the answer. You paint an inaccurate picture of the forces at play and so theres no stage for meaningful discourse here. sorry
@jns124able Prevention is better, U, C, S, can help many things; go to one, big mistake for you, everyone in the world to ignore this care. Wait to long, whoever will get a chronic condition that will not get better when an adjustment is given. Light toggle recoil , pisiform bone on the atlas with a 9-10 thousandth of a second thrust. Technique names on upcspine, Knee chest, Posterior arch of atlas when adjusting. Educate yourself, upcspine, imperative to know how to recognize a U, C, S, only.
@kobidobidog Im a bit busy with medicine at the moment. I do appreciate you comments. I would like to see better support in the evidence for DC...not because I think it is all bunk, but a stronger backup in the literature will go miles for affording DC greater acceptance. I would only refer patients to DC if the evidence showed proven benefit, and of course this will vary from condition to condition.
@jns124able Medicine is masking symptoms, must know the difference between the good, and the bad in the chiropractic field. True, Condition to condition will vary. We have been conditioned to wait for a condition. Wait for a condition, whoever will really have a problem. Brains need to be reprogrammed. Prevention- maintenance, for, teeth, car, Golden Gate Bridge would rust away fall apart if not for maintenance. Scads of evidenced on the web, to much to write down. Believe me U, C, S, is good.
@kobidobidog On what basis do you claim medicine only masks symptoms. That is an incredibly narrow mined statement laden with suggestive language. I would not say masking symptoms...I contending with, alleviate, and control symptoms. When you say masking, you exclude every other role of medicine and spit in the faces of the hard workers who have provided you with the good health you enjoy through vaccinations, for example...and suggest a coverup or avoidance of real treatment. Naive.
@jns124 not only mask, but drugs are killing humans. Biggest drug cartel in the world downplays Upper cervical specific, learn, upcspine. Drug after drug is pulled off the market after brainwashed humans who trust chemists that would be found on a Frankenstein movie. Health does not come from a chemistry lab, popping joints. Early treatment by a U, C, S, only as young as possible is best. Should have more; Sherman collage, utilize them, and we will not have the pervasive problem we have today.
@kobidobidog Im afraid you are exaggerating the negative, dismissing the benefits to a degree that distorts the appropriate risk benefit considerations normally taken by competent physicians. For all I know you are only referring to incompetent physicians. You are quite alarmingly biased and any reasonable person would likely agree.
@jns124able: I am exaggerating absolutely positively nothing! Shock you awake! Drugs are no respecters of the humans body even as cigarettes, alcohol. I do not do either. I practice what I preach. learn how to recognize a U, C, S, .Charlatans are around, and humans have to learn how to recognize a true U, C, S, upcspine. Whoever needs to go to one to have optimum health because no matter how you think you feel on your own is not enough. My eyes are open, whoevers eyes needed to be open too.
@kobidobidog This is the last time i will write to you. I cannot have an intelligent discussion with someone that personifies inanimate objects. (drugs lacking respect, in this case if you missed it). I really dont know how to relate to this kind of argument...I dont want to have to use the limited characters in a post to counter ideas of that nature. take care
@jns124able. Drugs are drugs are drugs they do not support any cellular activity in the body whatsoever. Have a meal of them ,and see how long you live. humans take large amounts of them attempting suicide. Good drugs LOL.
@Aldarion33 I am an upper cervical specific advocate and I am trying to teach whoever whatever I can, and edify these wonderful humans. They are fantastic. There is so much that humans do not Know.Like when Do I go see one of these doctors. One should not delay to see one because the beginning of a problem can begin at birth. Intensity of conviction comes across because it works, but only as good as your spinal disks are.The longer spinal imbalances exist the worse you are going to get/ .
@Aldarion33 I am an upper cervical specific advocate and I am trying to teach whoever whatever I can, and edify these wonderful humans. They are fantastic. There is so much that humans do not Know.Like when Do I go see one of these doctors. One should not delay to see one because the beginning of a problem can begin at birth. Intensity of conviction comes across because it works, but only as good as your spinal disks are.The longer spinal imbalances exist the worse you are going to get/ .
@kobidobidog U, C, S, only...U,C,S, is good...Sorry to say it but it just sounds like recorded advertising...
What`s the deal with you man? If U,C,S is so great why don´t u go talk about it at some U,C,S youtube video instead of this chiro demo?
I really don´t get u kobidobidog, though u seem like an ok guy your comments are just getting me as far from U,C,S as possible, as I really dislike when someone tries to utterly convince me of something...just an opinion
@kobidobidog U, C, S, only...U,C,S, is good...Sorry to say it but it just sounds like recorded advertising...
What`s the deal with you man? If U,C,S is so great why don´t u go talk about it at some U,C,S youtube video instead of this chiro demo?
I really don´t get u kobidobidog, though u seem like an ok guy your comments are just getting me as far from U,C,S as possible, as I really dislike when someone tries to utterly convince me of something...just an opinion
Well what if it wasn't? You have to understand, the whole point of scientific research is NEVER to prove something right...it's to prove something is wrong. That's the only way we ever get closer to the truth. Unfortunately, there's a whole lot we don't know, especially when it comes to the nervous system. "Science" will also tell you that Vioxx is an NSAID used to treat pain. That was "proven", only to be taken off the shelf d/t an increase in myocardial infarction. Still believe in proof?
Yes it can help with other people out there i know of other upper cervical techniques that can be of benefit. contact me. go right now before you have symptoms. Infants can be adjusted. Up c spine has a list of practitioners in various states.
@jns124able Not to a diversified or a full spine chiropractor,Those are bad. upper cervical specific. can do wonders when it is needed. listen to mucc us/, Having an U,C,S, there to check to see if the infant needs their care is a good thing.
@jns124able. You are thinking about bad chiropractors that practice cavitation. Life long problems can begin at birth. Whoever be wise, have an upper cervical specific with his scientific objective instrumentation to determine if the infant has an atlas that needs to be repositioned so the nerves are not constricted in the neck region. Lack of early treatment, maintenance is why humans get contorted latter in life. Contorted bodies causing problems that need not to occur, prevention is best.
@jns124able Mucc us/ is a web page about humans giving testimony about U, C, S, which is upper cervical specific. A technique name that is far an away better than full spine or diversified chiropractic;. Sherman Collage teaches this. Atlas orthogonal is one of the good techniques, Duff Method a way of measuring changes. Everyone in the world needs to be checked evaluated treated maintained by one. Spines will be in different stages of deterioration by neglecting to see one be treated by one.
@kobidobidog this is what concerns me about chiropractic in general. The level of evidence called upon to support it (google, utube, and even consumer reviews and testimonials). These are to any rational scientist, exceedingly poor forms of evidence. I would hope youd agree at least thus far...but higher quality study designs are problematic in chiro (double blinded clinical trials etc).
@jns124able A human can wait to long to get help by an upper cervical specific because to much damage has been done to the spinal disks. if there was a double blind study that did not have results the ones they had were a counterfeit of upper cervical specific called diversified chiropractors. They only pop the condyles of the axis, atlas vertebra, pop the joints which does nothing. I know the difference between what is good, what is bad. The world would be wise to consider what I am saying.
@jns124able humans trying to convince humans that health comes from a chemistry laboratory are murderous criminals that should be brought to justice. Drug after drug has been pulled from the market. Upper cervical specific has helped many all without any drugs. Pharmaceutical company's are the biggest drug cartel in the world, and they are poisoning everyone who is stupid enough to take them for doctor named ailments, Antibiotics, anesthesia, necessary for surgery, Anti venom not much more.
@kobidobidog ah, this is where you lost me. Pharmaceutical companies have produced many drugs such as insulin and countless others that are currently keeping ether you or someone you care about alive. You dont understand the first thing about medicine. Conversation over.
@jns124able when the nervous system is not working symmetrically in the body all kinds of things go wrong in the body. One of the signs of an obvious problem is structural abnormalities in the structure of the body. By the time you see this, an immense amount of damage has already occurred to the disks, body, brain of the individual. My intent is to prevent all of this from happening. What can possibly be wrong with me wanting to do that and direct humans to the kind of care that can do that?
@jns124able When 5the nervious syustom is not working whreere ever it is noit working will cause the body to not work properly. ner4ves are vital for the body to opperate to its optimume.
@jns124able Having milk thistle, it is in the form of a tincture. to help to detoxify the body of after having anesthetics, anesthesia, other pain medications is a very good idea.. Morphine is very toxic to the liver.
If the 'patient doesn't feel it' how on Earth is there going to be enough pressure to cause a change in his atlas position??? Please... talk about placebo effect.
A little long, but there are some inspiring stories here. I would have put the one of regained vision first, rather than last, because it grabs attention. Truth is, we can't explain or predict why or for whom these kinds of results occur. When my patient got up out of his wheel chair after I adjusted him, I wasn't surprised, just filled with gratitude for the gift of healing that can be transferred from one to another. Great stuff.
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18 years of functional scoliosis was gone in 2 visits to ABC practitioner.
100s of chiropractors did not get this result even over 18 years of chiropractic care.
wonderfultiger 7 months ago
some may not like it but fact is my harm is in place and no more pain pills
juanastanbridgelive 1 year ago
In my 20 years as a chiropractic doctor with 18,000 active patient files, seeing 500+ pv/week, I can recall thousands of chiropractic miracles that occured in my office. Organized Medicine and Big Pharma doesn't want the world to hear nor recieve chiropractic. There isn't money in healthy people. Chiropractic reaches the cause not suppress the symptom= supress the body. Chiropractic for all!!
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@kobidobidog U, C, S, only...U,C,S, is good...Sorry to say it but it just sounds like recorded advertising...
What`s the deal with you man? If U,C,S is so great why don´t u go talk about it at some U,C,S youtube video instead of this chiro demo?
I really don´t get u kobidobidog, though u seem like an ok guy your comments are just getting me as far from U,C,S as possible, as I really dislike when someone tries to utterly convince me of something...just an opinion
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bisesik, still not sure what you are on about here, yeah? A chronic muscle shortening or any muscle group attached to any part of the c-sp is going to create malposition of that part of the c-sp vis a vis normal neutral. Another way this could be phrased would be that a "malaligned spine" results. You just said the same thing, but focused on the mechanism whereas the chiropractor might focus on the resultant affect on the spine. Do think it through. Just look at it from another perspective.
bmsnz 2 years ago
Yes an infant can incur a musculoskeletal injury during birth or in the womb but muscular injury would be the nature. Most ailments would be neck torticollis, which a chiro would tell you is the malaligned spine, but for an infant would be neck muscle injury or prolonged position and resultant muscle shortening.
bisesik 2 years ago
Talk to a pediatrician regarding an infant, certainly not a chiropractor. The joints are very resiliant in young children and especially infants. Very malleable joints, even those which in the future will fuse such as cranial sutures. How could any chiro responsibly justify adjusting an infant? The spine has not even fully developed. I've seen videos of these "adjustments" and they take an infant or a toddler in the same motions as an adult without the velocity - does NOTHING!
bisesik 2 years ago
A infant should be evaluated by an upper cervical; specific only. Their scientific instrumentation can determine if the spinal nervous system is working properly, and if a repositioning of the atlas is necessary. Duff Method way of measuring. This is taught at Sherman Collage.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog - thanks for writing off the personal experiences of thousands upon thousands of chiropractic patients (and their chiropractors) as being unimportant. Luckily the members of the NZ Royal Commission of Inquiry into Chiropractic knew better than you do.
bmsnz 2 years ago
@jns, you can tell from kobidobidog's posts that the model of chiropractic there is purely structural alignment in nature. In that view of chiropractic, an out of alignment vertebra somehow causes dysfunction in the nervous system. The chiropractors I know who have been looking for a more futureproof paradigm ahead, think the opposite. A dysfunction in the nervous system culminates in altered motor output which generates a misalignment or fixation (or both) of the vertebra.
bmsnz 2 years ago
@bmsnz Correct,and a dysfunction can begin can potentially happen with a traumatic birth or even a c section. This means if we truly care we will have U,C,S, doctors in the hospitals- wherever to care for whoever to balance the body, balance the health to make whoever better,and help keep them that way. The scientific objective instrumentation of an U,C,S can determine if an adjustment is needed or not. Diversified,full spine chiropractors ,and mixers must to be avoided.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog Getting chiropractors into hospitals requires a process. More chiropractors need to gain professional post grad quals. And I don't mean certs that no one recognises. Also chiropractors need to identify very specific situations for their approach to be trialled on. If positive effect is demonstrated, then show how chiropractors can work successfully within a larger healthcare team. BTW I'm sorry that you express such parochial and unfounded sentiments against your own colleagues.
bmsnz 2 years ago
@bmsnz Chiropractic that uses cavitations does nothing more than pop joints like it pops knuckles. Will not support that kind of useless technique, the two different techniques went by the same name, not anymore, do not call them Chiropractors "U, C, S, upper cervical specific". An infrared scanner called the Tytron that is noninvasive can help to see if there are any unseen problems to help determine if x rays will be needed. Adjustment is very gentle. Qualified U,C,S, on upcspine should work.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog Your comments are totally unprofessional. The NZ Commission of Inquiry received written notes and sworn testimony from thousands of NZ chiropractic patients who had experienced first hand benefit with chiropractic care, most had received Gonstead or Diversified. To say that they were treated with "useless" technique and that their chiropractors were just popping joints is wrong on so many different levels. Your denigration of other members of your own profession is revealing.
bmsnz 2 years ago
@bmsnz I am an upper cervical specific advocate by choise. There is a distinct difference between the two schools of techniques. Gonstead, and diversified are not good techniques at all.
A persons own objective observations are not scientific at all.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@bmsnz There is a lot that you do not Know.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
OK kobidobidog, re: "There is a lot you do not Know" now you are suggesting that I am ignorant about chiropractic, a field that I have spent many years of involvement with. Thanks but no thanks. Your unprofessionalism is quite something. Maybe you can respond directly to my remark that thousands of NZ'ers who experienced Gonstead and diversified care wrote and gave testimony that they were helped by those techniques. Back your assertion that they "are not good techniques at all."
bmsnz 2 years ago
@jns124able Fact remains diversified full spine techniques are popping of the joints. Patients observations are not scientific. A person can have a problem, say they are fine, and structurally show that there is a problem. I see this all the time. Nerves control functions of the body that give no indication by pain if they are not working right, hence a patients observation is not good enough no matter What the patient sworn testimony is. Brain has to communicate with the body U, C, S, helps.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@bmsnz look for it, a lot oi evidence that U,C,S, care works.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
Re: insulin. It is anecdotally common for chiropractors to hear Type I and Type II diabetes patients mention (complain?) after their first one or two adjustments that their blood sugar levels either spiked or fell abnormally within one or two hours of their first treatment, for no other known cause. Often these are patients who have monitored their blood sugar levels for years and remark that such an incident is somewhat "out of the ordinary" for them. Who knows what is going on there.
bmsnz 2 years ago
By the way I noticed you made several remarks about not taking infants to a chiropractor. Not quite sure where you are coming from with this in terms of rationale (I've only read the recent posts) but for a few infants, being seen by a chiropractor is going to be extremely beneficial. A competent chiropractor will deliver stimulating forces to an infant's spine equivalent to a small fraction of the forces applied by an MD to a neonate's spine during the facilitation of a normal vaginal birth.
bmsnz 2 years ago
Hey jns. I find that the basic chiropractic principle that there is intelligent command and control of the body's physiology is fundamental and quite useful because it provides a problem solving framework. Unfortunately what has occurred is that some chiropractic grads are being taught the over-arching principle but not being taught how to reason from this to a deeper, multi factorial level. Probably because their tutors rote learned the same.
bmsnz 2 years ago
@jns124able when the nervous symptom is not working where ever it is not working will cause the body to not work properly. Nerves are vital for the body to operate to its optimum. Have the disk wear down on one side, and that nerve is going to not be able to do its job as well as with a healthy disk, logic. That is why whoever has a problem. Insulin is not the answer. Prevention, U, C, S, treatment is the answer. Have body balanced early in life possibly as early as birth. Trained U, C, S, only.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog you arent following the line of discussion...and didnt understand the comment about insulin. Not to be rude...but this isnt a line of discussion I care to pursue. For a type 1 diabetic...insulin IS the answer. You paint an inaccurate picture of the forces at play and so theres no stage for meaningful discourse here. sorry
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124able Prevention is better, U, C, S, can help many things; go to one, big mistake for you, everyone in the world to ignore this care. Wait to long, whoever will get a chronic condition that will not get better when an adjustment is given. Light toggle recoil , pisiform bone on the atlas with a 9-10 thousandth of a second thrust. Technique names on upcspine, Knee chest, Posterior arch of atlas when adjusting. Educate yourself, upcspine, imperative to know how to recognize a U, C, S, only.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog Im a bit busy with medicine at the moment. I do appreciate you comments. I would like to see better support in the evidence for DC...not because I think it is all bunk, but a stronger backup in the literature will go miles for affording DC greater acceptance. I would only refer patients to DC if the evidence showed proven benefit, and of course this will vary from condition to condition.
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124able Medicine is masking symptoms, must know the difference between the good, and the bad in the chiropractic field. True, Condition to condition will vary. We have been conditioned to wait for a condition. Wait for a condition, whoever will really have a problem. Brains need to be reprogrammed. Prevention- maintenance, for, teeth, car, Golden Gate Bridge would rust away fall apart if not for maintenance. Scads of evidenced on the web, to much to write down. Believe me U, C, S, is good.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog On what basis do you claim medicine only masks symptoms. That is an incredibly narrow mined statement laden with suggestive language. I would not say masking symptoms...I contending with, alleviate, and control symptoms. When you say masking, you exclude every other role of medicine and spit in the faces of the hard workers who have provided you with the good health you enjoy through vaccinations, for example...and suggest a coverup or avoidance of real treatment. Naive.
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124 not only mask, but drugs are killing humans. Biggest drug cartel in the world downplays Upper cervical specific, learn, upcspine. Drug after drug is pulled off the market after brainwashed humans who trust chemists that would be found on a Frankenstein movie. Health does not come from a chemistry lab, popping joints. Early treatment by a U, C, S, only as young as possible is best. Should have more; Sherman collage, utilize them, and we will not have the pervasive problem we have today.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog Im afraid you are exaggerating the negative, dismissing the benefits to a degree that distorts the appropriate risk benefit considerations normally taken by competent physicians. For all I know you are only referring to incompetent physicians. You are quite alarmingly biased and any reasonable person would likely agree.
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124able: I am exaggerating absolutely positively nothing! Shock you awake! Drugs are no respecters of the humans body even as cigarettes, alcohol. I do not do either. I practice what I preach. learn how to recognize a U, C, S, .Charlatans are around, and humans have to learn how to recognize a true U, C, S, upcspine. Whoever needs to go to one to have optimum health because no matter how you think you feel on your own is not enough. My eyes are open, whoevers eyes needed to be open too.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog This is the last time i will write to you. I cannot have an intelligent discussion with someone that personifies inanimate objects. (drugs lacking respect, in this case if you missed it). I really dont know how to relate to this kind of argument...I dont want to have to use the limited characters in a post to counter ideas of that nature. take care
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124able. Drugs are drugs are drugs they do not support any cellular activity in the body whatsoever. Have a meal of them ,and see how long you live. humans take large amounts of them attempting suicide. Good drugs LOL.
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@Aldarion33 I am an upper cervical specific advocate and I am trying to teach whoever whatever I can, and edify these wonderful humans. They are fantastic. There is so much that humans do not Know.Like when Do I go see one of these doctors. One should not delay to see one because the beginning of a problem can begin at birth. Intensity of conviction comes across because it works, but only as good as your spinal disks are.The longer spinal imbalances exist the worse you are going to get/ .
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@kobidobidog U, C, S, only...U,C,S, is good...Sorry to say it but it just sounds like recorded advertising...
What`s the deal with you man? If U,C,S is so great why don´t u go talk about it at some U,C,S youtube video instead of this chiro demo?
I really don´t get u kobidobidog, though u seem like an ok guy your comments are just getting me as far from U,C,S as possible, as I really dislike when someone tries to utterly convince me of something...just an opinion
Aldarion33 1 year ago
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@kobidobidog U, C, S, only...U,C,S, is good...Sorry to say it but it just sounds like recorded advertising...
What`s the deal with you man? If U,C,S is so great why don´t u go talk about it at some U,C,S youtube video instead of this chiro demo?
I really don´t get u kobidobidog, though u seem like an ok guy your comments are just getting me as far from U,C,S as possible, as I really dislike when someone tries to utterly convince me of something...just an opinion
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Aldarion33 1 year ago
Sounds like the natural course of MS to me.
saintmatthieu 2 years ago
How did dd palmer cure harvey lillard's deafness??
jvelos3 2 years ago
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This is pure bullshit. Research it. Science says bullshit.
angelo212 3 years ago
u post this on all these videos so um....shut the fuck up
jordan8956 3 years ago
Tell that to your mother and daughter.
angelo212 3 years ago
Tell that to your mother. You young bucks believe everything you read on the internet. I seen your profile page. Must be a "QUEEN!
angelo212 3 years ago
"I seen your profile" ....? Are you illiterate?
fnchrstphr 2 years ago
What does my profile have to do with being illiterate?
angelo212 2 years ago
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Wariki12 2 years ago
Well what if it wasn't? You have to understand, the whole point of scientific research is NEVER to prove something right...it's to prove something is wrong. That's the only way we ever get closer to the truth. Unfortunately, there's a whole lot we don't know, especially when it comes to the nervous system. "Science" will also tell you that Vioxx is an NSAID used to treat pain. That was "proven", only to be taken off the shelf d/t an increase in myocardial infarction. Still believe in proof?
wuzio 2 years ago
Montel Williams... Not Tupac HAHAHAHAHA
wkbrummer 3 years ago
Tupac... hHAHAHAHAH!!
mjaauu 3 years ago
Yes it can help with other people out there i know of other upper cervical techniques that can be of benefit. contact me. go right now before you have symptoms. Infants can be adjusted. Up c spine has a list of practitioners in various states.
kobidobidog 3 years ago 2
DO NOT take infants for chiropractic adjustments...geez.
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124able Not to a diversified or a full spine chiropractor,Those are bad. upper cervical specific. can do wonders when it is needed. listen to mucc us/, Having an U,C,S, there to check to see if the infant needs their care is a good thing.
Read upcspine to learn more.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
Your abbreviations have left me in the dark Im afraid. A vague post at best. I repeat...do NOT take infants to chiropractors.
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124able. You are thinking about bad chiropractors that practice cavitation. Life long problems can begin at birth. Whoever be wise, have an upper cervical specific with his scientific objective instrumentation to determine if the infant has an atlas that needs to be repositioned so the nerves are not constricted in the neck region. Lack of early treatment, maintenance is why humans get contorted latter in life. Contorted bodies causing problems that need not to occur, prevention is best.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@jns124able Mucc us/ is a web page about humans giving testimony about U, C, S, which is upper cervical specific. A technique name that is far an away better than full spine or diversified chiropractic;. Sherman Collage teaches this. Atlas orthogonal is one of the good techniques, Duff Method a way of measuring changes. Everyone in the world needs to be checked evaluated treated maintained by one. Spines will be in different stages of deterioration by neglecting to see one be treated by one.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog this is what concerns me about chiropractic in general. The level of evidence called upon to support it (google, utube, and even consumer reviews and testimonials). These are to any rational scientist, exceedingly poor forms of evidence. I would hope youd agree at least thus far...but higher quality study designs are problematic in chiro (double blinded clinical trials etc).
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124able A human can wait to long to get help by an upper cervical specific because to much damage has been done to the spinal disks. if there was a double blind study that did not have results the ones they had were a counterfeit of upper cervical specific called diversified chiropractors. They only pop the condyles of the axis, atlas vertebra, pop the joints which does nothing. I know the difference between what is good, what is bad. The world would be wise to consider what I am saying.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@jns124able humans trying to convince humans that health comes from a chemistry laboratory are murderous criminals that should be brought to justice. Drug after drug has been pulled from the market. Upper cervical specific has helped many all without any drugs. Pharmaceutical company's are the biggest drug cartel in the world, and they are poisoning everyone who is stupid enough to take them for doctor named ailments, Antibiotics, anesthesia, necessary for surgery, Anti venom not much more.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@kobidobidog ah, this is where you lost me. Pharmaceutical companies have produced many drugs such as insulin and countless others that are currently keeping ether you or someone you care about alive. You dont understand the first thing about medicine. Conversation over.
jns124able 2 years ago
@jns124able when the nervous system is not working symmetrically in the body all kinds of things go wrong in the body. One of the signs of an obvious problem is structural abnormalities in the structure of the body. By the time you see this, an immense amount of damage has already occurred to the disks, body, brain of the individual. My intent is to prevent all of this from happening. What can possibly be wrong with me wanting to do that and direct humans to the kind of care that can do that?
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@jns124able When 5the nervious syustom is not working whreere ever it is noit working will cause the body to not work properly. ner4ves are vital for the body to opperate to its optimume.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
@jns124able Having milk thistle, it is in the form of a tincture. to help to detoxify the body of after having anesthetics, anesthesia, other pain medications is a very good idea.. Morphine is very toxic to the liver.
kobidobidog 2 years ago
Please ,please go to an upper cervical specific doctor before you feel pain or symtomes.contact me I can guide you in your choices this is good
kobidobidog 3 years ago 2
!This is good.others techneqies too.
Upper cervical specific doctors that do scientific instrumentation and x-rays,
Sagittal atlantoaxial region., This is no plasebo efect!
You can be steadily getting worse even while experiencing no pain.get adjusted by an upper cervical specific doctor montel is telling you the truth.
.upcspine) has a list of some of the upper cervical specific cervical doctors in your area. I can interview him --her.
Unhealthy nervous system = unhealthy brain..
kobidobidog 3 years ago
If the 'patient doesn't feel it' how on Earth is there going to be enough pressure to cause a change in his atlas position??? Please... talk about placebo effect.
Medic88888 3 years ago
It's simple. The procedure is bullshit.
bolexdude 3 years ago
A little long, but there are some inspiring stories here. I would have put the one of regained vision first, rather than last, because it grabs attention. Truth is, we can't explain or predict why or for whom these kinds of results occur. When my patient got up out of his wheel chair after I adjusted him, I wasn't surprised, just filled with gratitude for the gift of healing that can be transferred from one to another. Great stuff.
BackCarePlus 4 years ago