The bible says a woman is to marr her rapist part1

[terabrat]

You are 100% wrong. I'm Jewish and I'll explain it to you. The man has to marry her if she wants him. She cannot be forced to marry him if she doesn't want him. Christians are IGNORANT!!!!

[wolfwing1]

@terabrat can you show me where in the text it says anything about her choice?

[terabrat]

@wolfwing1 Can you read Hebrew?

[wearestarstuffsagan]

@terabrat i agree with wolfwing1 , can you show the scripture to support this? i can certainly show the scripture to support the opposite

[terabrat]

@wearestarstuffsagan Can you read Hebrew?

[13Zeroither]

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all share the same god, but they all say his name in different languages. Judaism came first, then Christianity, then Islam in their creation (Buddhism came before ALL three of them) All three of them also share another guy: Abraham.

Either way, fuck religion. I'm done with this crap. I'm done of people killing other people due to religious reasons. (to be continued....)

[5pecular]

whats the verses?

My feeling is if this was seriously what the bible says then you should burn just those verses that say this before giving it to your children to read.

The mere suggestion that the bible or any other book says this is disgusting

[wolfwing1]

@5pecular Deutoronomy 22:28-29

[ZebrasFirst]

@wolfwing1, In Deuteronomy 22:25, a rapist is to be put to death.

[wolfwing1]

@ZebrasFirst Might want to reread that, it's only in narrow circumstances, A) if it is done in the country and B) she is betrothed, in the city they are both killed for her being rapped. If she isn't bethroed or married, she marries her rapist.

[ZebrasFirst]

@wolfwing1, "Both killed for being rapist and victim?!!" Goodness, no, she is only killed, too, if she consented (she gets Death Penalty because she was already married).

Duet. 22:28-29 is fornication (they both consented, which is why they must marry).

Dang...now I have to fish out the old KJV, the newer versions can be tricky.

[wolfwing1]

@ZebrasFirst scholars seem to be rather split on that, even jewish ones will say it was rape, so it's not quiet so conclusive.

[ZebrasFirst]

@wolfwing1, When you read it from a new version, it's definitely and clearly rape. However, going by the KJV, it's not a victim having to marry her attacker, it's fornication.

Having to marry your rapist is sick and twisted, no wonder atheists love that verse and mock Christians.

[no2religions]

Is this why western governments invaded Afghanistan?

[DreamsOfCottages]

...taken care of appropriately. For example let's say a child that was born out of wedlock would be an enormous burden on a family and there would be no one to support it and the woman, etc....it was a way to keep both parties responsible for their actions. I can cite verses that show that a rapist (an actual one that takes it by force) is to be stoned to death and also historically prove that in those days Jewish tradition/law was for the rape victim to inherit the man's estate.

[wolfwing1]

@DreamsOfCottages Actually, those only refer to if she's bethroed, and the woman is stonned too BTW if she doesn't cry out in the city. And this verse is only if she's a unbethroed virgin.

[DreamsOfCottages]

@wolfwing1 It still applied historically. At least that is what secular historians believe. Im gonna go off those records more than a few sentences out of the Bible. Which would you prefer to go off of? ;) EVEN IF, let's say you were right and the Torah was saying that it was law to just stone or force her to marry....it was Jewish law not God's Law. This was customary traditions of those people. If you read other accounts for non Judah tribes, they aren't held to the same laws....

[DreamsOfCottages]

@DreamsOfCottages ....but they still worshipped the same God.

[DreamsOfCottages]

The verses you are referring to are extremely easy to refute in the way you are interpreting it. Firstly and most importantly the term "rape" is used because it is out of wedlock. It is used loosely as in the man did her a disservice by using her this way (consentingly but still) out of being married. The verses clearly are intimating that the sex was consentual. It was custom in those days in the Torah-Jewish/law/customs/tradi­tion (ie. not God's words), to make sure property and such was...

[jmm1233]

i know your focusing on the bible here but same could be said for the exact topic of rapist marrying victim when it comes to the quran as well