Patrick: Abortion Protest Sat-11/06/2010

[PLifeConsAtheist]

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[bigisrick]

wow i wish all of these people in this video where aborted. fucking zealots ill be sure to egg these worthless pieces of shit next time i drive by here

[8692brent]

People that are against killing un-born babies need help?

Or people that like to kill un-born babies need help.

What sounds worse? I think #2

[nauris706]

ughh, these people need help and a life

[ConservativeAtheist]

@nauris706: Interesting how you think people donating their valuable time and effort to stand up for what they believe in and against what they consider to be a horrible social injustice as a waste of time better spent it truly says volumes about your character and how sad for you and anyone that has the misfortune of knowing you if even for a brief moment…

[BornAgain192]

I'm sure you have heard all about Jesus Christ by now but I just want to bring praise to His name one more time and say that He is Savior. He died for my sin. I was an alcoholic, addicted to cigarettes, partying among other things but i could only smile when drunk, i could only feel whole when someone was loving me....now Jesus is my all in all and there is no emptiness. I have joy even in sorrow. I only tell you this because I care and I am truely going to be praying for your soul. God bless

[bb0888]

@BornAgain192 your happy because you had gathered a scape goat, someone to blame your problems and ask for forgiveness for your selfish needs. congratulations

[BornAgain192]

May God bless you with a heart of belief. I have respect for you because you are doing what many christians are afraid to do. Thank you for taking a stand!

[ConservativeAtheist]

@BornAgain192: Thank you for the support I figure I only have one life to live and I have to get it right the first time.

I wish you well and I support you and your beliefs.

[bb0888]

@BornAgain192 It's not that Christians are afraid to do it, in my opinion it's because some people have enough common sense to get with the times.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@bricktrevor: Ok now this is the 3rd time I have had to answer this exact same post and if there is a 4th I will erase and ban you for Spam!

I don't care what God supposedly wants or says because I am an Atheist and I don't believe in God.

Secondly according to your logic we should allow Rape and Murder because everything is all part of Gods plan.

You are a Dope!…lol

[VoiceOfModeration]

Way to go Pat! Good work!

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

this is so funny, their bible and god supports abortion by not stopping one.

read the NIV's footnote of numbers 5:11-31 that said " to cause a miscarrying womb and barrenness" to cause a womb to miscarry is abortion and that abortion was done by a man of god, in his name....and these retarded fools who doesn't read the bible are talking praying to end abortion.

irony at it's finest.

they should use their useless prayers to stop children from dying in africa.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: No one can stop Children dying in Africa they are Barbarians that Rape, Murder, and starve eachother.

In fact there are gangs of grown Men Raping little Girls because they think they can cure themselves of AIDS by giving it to a virgin.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@ConservativeAtheist

no, if you truly wanted to save children, you can easily do it by working for the red cross, starting donations to help prevent them from dying of diseases, starvation...etc, or help make homeless shelters or save them from religion.

watch what one man did for some Africa's children labeled as witches by stupid Christians: veoh com/browse/videos/category/act­ivism_non_profit/watch/v196340­339cSNnb35

Part 1 2010 Update: Saving Africa's Witch Children (Falsely Accused)

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: I don't know what you mean by saving the Children from the crazy Christians because it's actually the Christians Charities that have both Fed and Clothed the starving people of Africa both Adults and Children alike more than any other Organization and to my admitted disappointment there are no Atheist Charities helping anyone. In fect I only found a few and they were just names without any real charitable org behind them.

BlackAfricans are Barbarians Christian or otherwise!

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@ConservativeAtheist

really? prove it, because i thought the main money going to Africa is from governments...funny, if those damn christians truly cared about saving real children from danger, they should donate their money....but they don't, do they?

"Why would I worry about starving Children in Africa before I worried about poor starving people in America?"

LOL, compartmentalization, much? ppl are ppl...so that's proves you don't give fuck or too scared/too poor to actually help.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: So the lives of your own Family means no more to you than some person you don't know in Africa? WOW! You are one twisted freak!

Christians donate a ton of money actually through the countless National and Global Christian Charities.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@C how does " i don't rationalize anything that violates the civil and constitutional rights of others." ="So the lives of your own Family means no more to you than some person you don't know in Africa?"

"Christians donate a ton of money actually through the countless National and Global Christian Charities." yeah....point is? how much of that money is going to the ppl?

wrong, because all decisions are based on the constitution, duh= constitutional rights.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: I asked why would I worry about people in Africa before I worry about people in America and you responded that people are people meaning people in Africa should have the same priority as people in America to me and I asked you so does a stranger in Africa mean as much to you as your own family members? If you can't understand I don't know what to do to help you.

US Supreme Court decisions can be changed but the Constitution actually takes an Amendment perhaps a Gov Class?

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@C

first of all, this " I asked you so does a stranger in Africa mean as much to you as your own family members?" you never asked me about my family...this is your original question " Why would I worry about starving Children in Africa before I worried about poor starving people in America?"...then this" So the lives of your own Family means no more to you than some person you don't know in Africa? WOW! You are one twisted freak!"

where did my family come into stupid debate? read comments

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@C

"US Supreme Court decisions can be changed but the Constitution actually takes an Amendment perhaps a Gov Class?"

actually, U need the class more than i do and you need to stop changing the subject because no one said that a supreme court decision can't be changed, and i didn't bring that anything about amendments...i already told you "nothing in the constitution is against abortion."

common theme with you pro-life fascists, twist subjects and pull shit out of your ass for no reason.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: There is nothing in the Constitution against Rape either that doesn't mean that you can't make laws against it.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@ConservativeAtheist

13th and 14th amendment ... lol!

and you can't violate someone else's rights.

[VoiceOfModeration]

@FREEAMERICANOW69  our thoughts exactly! you can't violate someone's right to life

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@VoiceOfModeration

not really, but you do have a nice fallacy there, no wonder why abortion been constitutional for 37 years now and will be so in the future with your failed logic. a fetus doesn't have any rights. why? because if it had rights then those would violate the woman's rights to her body given to her by her birth, like the 13th amendment.

birth= rights.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: I have the right to go where ever I want but that doesn't mean that if someone is standing in front of my car I can drive over top of them and kill them. If my excising my rights kills someone then I can't do it. Laws change as will this one.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@ConservativeAtheist

you don't know HOW change it.

response back, once you figure it out because i already told you once.

p.s. while you are bitching about abortion that you are legally powerless to stop or prevent w/o the woman's permission, actual children are dying around the world from poverty, dehydration, starvation, and war, and they need your help.

hey, it's easy for you NOT to help real children but video tape a protest outside an abortion clinic.

[VoiceOfModeration]

@FREEAMERICANOW69 You don't get what I'm saying. And making fun of my intelligence isn't nice and it doesn't help your argument. It's just simply rude. Don't you understand that the reason why it's such a controversial debate in the first place is because it's seen as a conflict of rights? Don't you understand that the reason why it's such a controversial debate is because both sides think they're on the side of the victim? Like it's pretty straight-forward, this is a hot topic for good reason.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@V

i do understand your non-legal and unconstitutional fallacy, U R not an american.

abortion is NOT a conflict of rights or legally seen as that way....a fetus doesn't have a right to life, period!

ppl been tricked to see that because Christians like any other movement needs enemy to keep it going and their leaders know that CHRISTIANS DON'T READ THEIR BIBLES BECAUSE IT SUPPORTS ABORTION.

ppl like CA are too lazy/fearful to help actual children in danger & have a twisted sense of morality

[VoiceOfModeration]

@FREEAMERICANOW69 Once again, you're being too dichotomous/arrogant (black-and-white). I'm not a Christian. I'm not religious at all. Neither is the gentleman who put this video up (notice the name of the channel?) What I'm saying is not unconstitutional, the constitution is silent on the matter though you twist part of it. I've seen it just as easily twisted the other way, for example when pro-lifers say "the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@a

"you're being too dichotomous/arrogant" please, prove the first time because i was very logical.

when did i say you was a christian?

prove that abortion is not constitutional in america...roe vs wade was back by rights to privacy, which are based off constitutional amendments.

law umkc edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/c­onlaw/rightofprivacy

"the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" is not IN the US constitution and declaration of independence is NOT a legal document.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@VoiceOfModeration: If any of my arguments seem odd simply ignore them they were meant for the other guy accidentally responded to you by mistake.

[VoiceOfModeration]

@FREEAMERICANOW69 2) Ron Paul for example said, "A popular academic argument for abortion demands that we think of the child in the womb as a parasite.but the same argument justifies infanticide, since it applies just as well to an infant outside the womb.newborns require even more attention & care.

People ask an expectant mother how her baby is doing. They do not ask how her fetus is doing, or her blob of tissue, or her parasite." What about my CHOICE for where my tax dollars go?

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@V

"popular academic argument for abortion demands that we think of the child in the womb as a parasite"

that's because a fetus IS biologically a parasite, it fits the definition: "an animal or plant that lives in or on another (the host) from which it obtains nourishment. The host does not benefit from the association and is often harmed by it"

and wiki proves it: wiki/Immune_tolerance_in_pregn­ancy, read the first dot.

so no, it's doesn't justify infanticide unless you are fucking stupid.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: You claim it's a parasite and that there is no clear benefit to the host which is untrue in this case the child is a direct result of actions that exist for the very purpose of creating it and the obvious benefit is reproduction of the species. A true parasite attaches on it's own and serves no purpose with a few exceptions which is quite different than offspring of that species.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@C

you do know that consensual sex w/ a man=/= wanting a unwanted fetus inside your body?

you do know what RAPE is? consensual sex and rape produces the same result.

IF pregnancy is totally a biological benefit to woman, then there would be no need for abortion to exists, duh! LOL, facepalm!

benefit to the "species" is wrong, dude because symbiosis is on individual level,duh!

your side on want live fetuses, you don't care about the well-being/child rearing of children or women.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: Something I am starting to think you have had based on your Gay duh and face palm comments and overall style of conversation.

It's called the reproductive system for a reason whether it can and often is misused in the case of Rape doesn't change it's primary function.

Again Parasites are never the same species and for the most part are due to no actions of the host and serve no purpose but their own unlike offspring produced by the parent in order to continue the species.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@ConservativeAtheist

"your Gay duh and face palm comments and overall style of conversation." then maybe you should look at the intellectual dishonesty and lack of the scientific logic in your pro-life fascist argument.

for the past months now, i destroyed your little fallacies and i'm of average intelligence, so what does that say about YOU and your argument.

i know what the reproduction system is, you said the reproduction was a biological benefit to a woman but you forgot about rape.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: Sadly this is a problem I face when I argue with simpletons who spend their lives making asinine arguments on the worlds biggest lunatic assylum the net you can't best them because no matter how ludicris their arguments are and how thoroughly defeated they never recognize it no matter how plain to see.

Reproduction is a benefit to everyone Male and Female and Rape doesn't change that. Anything can be perverted and used differently than it's intended purpose.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@C

you mean it's sad that you have no logical argument against abortion and don't know anything about symbiosis-- if i was the dummy in this debate, you would of WON a long time ago and you have not.

each and very argument you brought up against me was destroyed, even when U red herring the argument from a fetus being a parasite to reproduction aka SEX.

"but to the species it absolutely is a benefit" that called an opinion because abortion exists & it has nothing to w/ the parasitic fetus"

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: Actually you have been made look foolish from the start and outed as well. As far as Abortion existing that just goes to show how twisted human beings have become.

Saying the existance of Abortion justifies it is like saying Pedophilia exists and so it's justified.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@ConservativeAtheist

yeah, prove your bullshit claim because i have credible links proving mine, and U still don't.

"As far as Abortion existing that just goes to show how twisted human beings have become.

Saying the existance of Abortion justifies it is like saying Pedophilia exists and so it's justified."

that's called an opinion and i'm looking for FACTS.

Knowledge or information based on real occurrences: an account based on fact; a blur of fact and fancy.

answers com FACT

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69:  Again you have been exposed as a homosexual fool so what else is there to say?

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@ConservativeAtheist

wow,is that the best you got? i'm straight but please, prove that i'm a fool- because you haven't proved me wrong once or STOP WASTING MY TIME.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@C

"Again Parasites are never the same species" WRONG, " Craniopagus parasiticus is a general term for a parasitic head attached to the head of a more fully developed fetus or infant.[1]" WIKI

"It is also possible for a symbiotic relationship to exist between two organisms of the same species."

Gale's Science of Everyday Things answers com symbiosis

again, continuing the species is not a biological benefit to the individual, duh! and not benefit at all, if the pregnancy is unwanted.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: Individual perhaps not in every case but to the species it absolutely is a benefit and the purpose of the reproductive system. The name says it all.

All of your examples have nothing to do with reproduction.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@V

"People ask an expectant mother how her baby is doing." that's because they're being nice...a fetus is not a biologically a baby.

"What about my CHOICE for where my tax dollars go?" depending of your state, your little 1/2 a cent may not going to towards abortion, if it is bitch to your congressman or MOVE.

wikipedia org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment

aren't you Canadian, SOCK ACCOUNT?

[ConservativeAtheist]

@VoiceOfModeration: Of course my side doesn't want the death of your side but the preservation of both mother and infant.

You claim it's a parasite and that there is no clear benefit to the host which is untrue in this case the child is a direct result of actions that exist for the very purpose of creating it and the obvious benefit is reproduction of the species. A true parasite attaches on it's own and serves no purpose with a few exceptions which is quite different than offspring.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: Continued:

Why would I worry about starving Children in Africa before I worried about poor starving people in America?

Also why can't I worry about Children being Murdered through Abortion and Starving Children? That's like saying don't worry about Rape because Murder is worse why not worry about them both?

I have a feeling you have done anything for anybody besides run your mouth on YouTube.

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@C

Also why can't I worry about Children being Murdered through Abortion and Starving Children?

this is how you ppl get trouble because you ppl refuse to live in reality and twist logic for your failed argument.

"Biologically, a child is generally a human between the stages of conception and puberty." wiki

abortion is a civil and constitutional right, murder is the unlawful killing w/ intent...so abortion is not murder.

so how is child being murder through abortion? it's not true, liar.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: You can try and rationalize all you like by way of using a strict legal definition of Murder but under a more practical common usage it fits perfectly and you know this or atleast you should.

Abortion of course is not a Civil or Constitutional Right for that to be the case there would have to be a Constitutional Amendment and that hasn't happened. Slavery use to be Legal so was Marital Rape so Legality doesn't equal Morality.

If put to a Vote = (Rape/Incest/Mothers Life).

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

@ConservativeAtheist

i don't rationalize anything that violates the civil and constitutional rights of others...so you either have a point or not.

abortion is a constitutional right because roe vs wade....nothing in the constitution is against abortion, and it's a civil right because every state's allows abortion.

"Slavery use to be Legal so was Marital Rape so Legality doesn't equal Morality."

that's called a strawman and morality has nothing to do with "rights".

[ConservativeAtheist]

@FREEAMERICANOW69: A Supreme Court Decision doesn't make something a Constitutionally protected Right a Constitutional Amendment does that's why the Constitution was Amended in the late 60s.

[searchPersonhoodTV]

Great content, it will be on Personhood TV. google - Personhood justin tv. God bless.

[ConservativeAtheist]

@searchPersonhoodTV: I know there is an App called (Justin TV) I wonder if that's the same as you are talking about?

[searchPersonhoodTV]

@ConservativeAtheist Yes, there are APPs for iPhone and Android at JustinDotTvDotCom

[ConservativeAtheist]

@searchPersonhoodTV: Yes I just downloaded the App and watched some of your stuff keep up the great work!

[ConservativeTimes]

Thanks for going out and shooting the video. Im glad people are out protesting. If you can make just one person think twice about having an abortion its worth the effort. By the way, very nice image quality, you must have a good camera...

[ConservativeAtheist]

@ConservativeTimes: Thanks I appreciate your support and I completely agree! It's the (iPhone-4) it records in High definition.

[ConservativeTimes]

@ConservativeAtheist Man, that iphone takes great video.  I have the EVO, i really havent messed with the video yet, it probably doesnt do as great a job as that, that's really impressive...

[ConservativeAtheist]

@ConservativeTimes: Yea I really love the (iPhone) and this newest one having the added ability to take HD Pictures and Video is awesome!

When I think back to my teen years in the 1980s and how when they came out with CDs & DVDs I remember saying to myself what could they possibly come out with now I think they have went as far as they can go with Music & Movies man I had no idea!

Yesterday I was a Video call with a friend of mine for free over something called (FaceTime). It's like SciFi!