Actually 88/14, note the welded, rather than screwed in clip guides. Cover on magazine opening dates 1915, S stamp indicates bored for JS bullet, (.323) good crescent indicating usage by Turkey at one time. Watch ammo selection, action and barrel barely stable for standard round. Barrel should misleading since actual barrel inside much thinner.
@diasirea it is actually an 88/05, the stripper guides were never screwed on these guns. they were either riveted on the 88/05 (this rifle) or welded on the 88/14. I have collected these commission rifles extensively and have over 60 examples. there are only two known surviving 88/14, and they look very different.
@Bruceman10 Reference pages 75 and 76 of April 1973 American Rifleman that uses "Die Handwaffen des brandenburgisch-preussisch-duetschen Heeres" by Eckardt-Moraweitz, describing the three common modifications of Commission 88, the 88S, the 88/05 and the 88/14. Clearly stated that the 88/05 clip plates are screwed on while the 88/14 are brazed. Site variations also described. Scarlata's 2007 book notes a crude modification described as an 88/14. I must defer to German book. I've owned many 88s
@Bruceman10 Also had a chance to handle several dozen of those boltless rifles that they were selling for $10-15.00 about 5 years ago. Sad they were in such bad shape. Supposedly came out of Central America all were straight, unmodified 88s. I have an odd Chinese variation with out clip guides but with cartridge retention bar in magazine like later variants, I guess rounds loaded singly, rather than charges clip. Had one parts gun that had barrel spit under jacket. (Judenflinte?)
thanks, im going to try to eventually make a video like this for each of the 40 or so guns in my collection. just need to wait till have money for ammo, its not cheap anymore
Actually 88/14, note the welded, rather than screwed in clip guides. Cover on magazine opening dates 1915, S stamp indicates bored for JS bullet, (.323) good crescent indicating usage by Turkey at one time. Watch ammo selection, action and barrel barely stable for standard round. Barrel should misleading since actual barrel inside much thinner.
diasirea 3 weeks ago
@diasirea it is actually an 88/05, the stripper guides were never screwed on these guns. they were either riveted on the 88/05 (this rifle) or welded on the 88/14. I have collected these commission rifles extensively and have over 60 examples. there are only two known surviving 88/14, and they look very different.
Bruceman10 3 weeks ago
@Bruceman10 Reference pages 75 and 76 of April 1973 American Rifleman that uses "Die Handwaffen des brandenburgisch-preussisch-duetschen Heeres" by Eckardt-Moraweitz, describing the three common modifications of Commission 88, the 88S, the 88/05 and the 88/14. Clearly stated that the 88/05 clip plates are screwed on while the 88/14 are brazed. Site variations also described. Scarlata's 2007 book notes a crude modification described as an 88/14. I must defer to German book. I've owned many 88s
diasirea 3 weeks ago
@Bruceman10 Also had a chance to handle several dozen of those boltless rifles that they were selling for $10-15.00 about 5 years ago. Sad they were in such bad shape. Supposedly came out of Central America all were straight, unmodified 88s. I have an odd Chinese variation with out clip guides but with cartridge retention bar in magazine like later variants, I guess rounds loaded singly, rather than charges clip. Had one parts gun that had barrel spit under jacket. (Judenflinte?)
diasirea 3 weeks ago
nice gun, good photos
romansamu 2 months ago
Lovely old rifle. Nice "S" stamp.
HugeJasFilms 1 year ago
a nice ww 1 rifle
sdkfz162kingtiger 1 year ago
thanks, im going to try to eventually make a video like this for each of the 40 or so guns in my collection. just need to wait till have money for ammo, its not cheap anymore
Bruceman10 2 years ago
Well done! I like the period photos at the end.
Fergus1922 2 years ago