best application ever. can't believe it fell through. well, i suppose this world is not yet ready for wave's greatness.... oh well, we'll see it re-emerge in one form or the other in 5 years time. if parents are too stupid to get how this app works, then their children will enjoy it :)
@nickelbird69 Lol, I can see you haven't tried google wave as they way you say you could replace it, google wave is real time, facebook isn't, google wave can be ordered as the participants want, that means multiple trees, facebook can't, Google wave has controlled gadgets, facebook has apps and they can't have a way to communicate with the people that uses them with you... first look what google wave is, later on write your critics
@quicksite your argument = "I don't want to learn new words". Also, while you claim you understand the need for short catchy words for marketing, it has no effect on your opinion? There's money in a name, why do you think branding is such a big deal? And yeah, maybe its not the most innovative thing ever, but I'm guessing you got mad when they put ricotta on a stromboli and called it a calzone?
Since everyone on the web has an opinion, i do too. I'm a UX designer - stands for User Experience Design - a newish buzz word category which covers OLD SCHOOL range of web design elements such as usability design, information architecture, navigation design, transaction design, interaction design, information design, nomenclature (terminology) design -- all the elements that specify what the thing is, how it is used, but especially how it is predicted to be seen through the eyes of a user (2)
@quicksite (2) contd: through the eyes of an end user -- particularly upon encountering a first look at the whole new website for first time -- and figuring out -- WHAT IS THIS THING? -- what does it do? -- how does it benefit me? -- what are its features? -- how do I get started? -- what can I expect it to accomplish for me? ...
The biggest problem I had as a beta user of Google Wave last year was: "NOMENCLATURE" .. A new real-time collaborative tool for groups or brainstorming in the (3)
@quicksite (3) contd -- in the somewhat familiar body of and visual format of email? OKAY -- not a bad idea at all. Use of an INBOX? Excellent! These are conventions I am already familiar with.
So why is it that the product developers here thought it was crucial to the success of a new collaborative tool to have to give INCOMING MESSAGES or THREADS a whole new name -- now -- what is it? In your inbox, there is a WAVE? What, I asked I colleague. "A wave." What's a wave?" ... Well it's a (4)
@quicksite (4) CONTD -- it's a group collaborative thread where anyone can edit in real time. ME: Oh. Well that was simple. Why don't they just stick with MESSAGE or thread in the inbox? And allow people to grasp it as an ENHANCED MESSAGE with real-time collaboration? They can BRAND it as the product name, but do we need the FUNCTIONAL ITEM to be called a "wave"? No. That was its biggest mistake that kept hundreds of thousands of people from "getting" it right out the gate. There is an (5)
@quicksite (5) underlying arrogance -- unspoken and unintentional -- when everyone needs to completely REINVENT everything -- and the fact is, this was not a reinvention of everything. But "WAVE" isn't the first "sinner" in this category of "Let's invent a new word for our baby's function!". One of the biggest reasons WIKIS have failed to be adopted by mainstream - as tools they use to BUILD collaborative knowledge-bases - is due to the stupid cutesy name an engineer thought had great homage
@quicksite to the Hawaiian word wiki-wiki for "Hurry." ... What relevance does that have to a real-time collaborative, editable, knowledge base that maintains all prior iterations, you ask? NONE. And thus most of the world are consumers of wikipedia., not contributers. THANKS for that great name of the functional thing, engineers! The irony is, in THIS regardm Google got it right. Though they are reinventing the wheel with their own product, knol -- the name DOES sound congruent with what (6)
@quicksite (6) CONTD -- they say it means "a unit of knowledge" -- That is actually beautiful & eloquent & perfect. A "wave"? No. A wiki? No. A BLOG? No. But we've gotten used to that one. But it took years before it penetrated mainstream. It took the Presidential campaign run of Howard Dean to break that into the mainstream because 1001 media outlets ALL had to do their repetitive story on "what makes the Dean campaign unique?There's this thing called a Meetup, & something called a BLOG"..
@quicksite (6) CONT'D -- but prior to that? NO ONE knew, other than bloggers and sycophants, WTF is a blog? And even if you spelled out its originating name: Web Log, it really doesn't accurately describe what a blog is. ... I've spent years in advertising, design, marketing and branding, so I fully understand the need for short, catchy words on which to hook a concept. But that's just it: Advertising, by its very nature, could succeed at taking a previously unknown sound, and turn it into
@quicksite (7) CONT'D -- a household term, eventually understood by all through constant repetition on TV, in magazines, on billboards, etc. We know what a POST-IT note is because of advertising. We never knew what a VERIZON is until advertising slammed into our heads as a made-up word that was brand name. WIKI? There is no ad campaign to explain that word. BLOG? There were no ad dollars. WAVE? what is a "wave" in terms of the family of email, forums, wikis, etc? AN INVENTED TERM. We had no
@quicksite (8) CONT'D -- reference for "what is a wave" -- other than -- we know a ocean wave, we know a wave in a stadium, we know a "hello" wave, but the big mistake of these product developers was, unknowingly, having the arrogance to think their thingamajig qualified for a whole new category of functional term. It didn't. And for me, when I finally discovered after my first day of using it with a bunch of folks - "wait a minute - THAT's all this is? I thought there would be annotatable
@quicksite (9) CONT'D -- I thought there would be annotatable videos and drawing right on top of videos, and all of those kind of real-time shared whiteboarding tools - which had themselves been around for over 15 years in various products that had come and gone. So to me? To see that right hand pane -- and the big DEAL was inserting real-time comments from a group of people? THIS was worthy of a NEW FUNCTIONAL CATEGORY? No way. Had the inbox "thing" been a thread? That would've made sense. end
But the problem is that no-one is using it, and there's no way (that I know of) to get your existing emails, chats, FB friends on to Wave.
There's no way (that I know of) to get your data out Wave.
And lastly, there's too much stuff available dumped onto the users all at once.
An incremental release of the various features (you know, as soon as people stops getting excited about chat enable the next one) would have also helped.
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galloway62042009 4 days ago
people are too dumb to use it -,-
ryutaro2104 1 week ago
Google Mssg Board. I mean Wave.
gaBehcuoDsuoitneterP 1 year ago
best application ever. can't believe it fell through. well, i suppose this world is not yet ready for wave's greatness.... oh well, we'll see it re-emerge in one form or the other in 5 years time. if parents are too stupid to get how this app works, then their children will enjoy it :)
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@nickelbird69 Lol, I can see you haven't tried google wave as they way you say you could replace it, google wave is real time, facebook isn't, google wave can be ordered as the participants want, that means multiple trees, facebook can't, Google wave has controlled gadgets, facebook has apps and they can't have a way to communicate with the people that uses them with you... first look what google wave is, later on write your critics
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quepp42 1 year ago
@quicksite your argument = "I don't want to learn new words". Also, while you claim you understand the need for short catchy words for marketing, it has no effect on your opinion? There's money in a name, why do you think branding is such a big deal? And yeah, maybe its not the most innovative thing ever, but I'm guessing you got mad when they put ricotta on a stromboli and called it a calzone?
quepp42 1 year ago
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rootNoby 1 year ago
Since everyone on the web has an opinion, i do too. I'm a UX designer - stands for User Experience Design - a newish buzz word category which covers OLD SCHOOL range of web design elements such as usability design, information architecture, navigation design, transaction design, interaction design, information design, nomenclature (terminology) design -- all the elements that specify what the thing is, how it is used, but especially how it is predicted to be seen through the eyes of a user (2)
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (2) contd: through the eyes of an end user -- particularly upon encountering a first look at the whole new website for first time -- and figuring out -- WHAT IS THIS THING? -- what does it do? -- how does it benefit me? -- what are its features? -- how do I get started? -- what can I expect it to accomplish for me? ...
The biggest problem I had as a beta user of Google Wave last year was: "NOMENCLATURE" .. A new real-time collaborative tool for groups or brainstorming in the (3)
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (3) contd -- in the somewhat familiar body of and visual format of email? OKAY -- not a bad idea at all. Use of an INBOX? Excellent! These are conventions I am already familiar with.
So why is it that the product developers here thought it was crucial to the success of a new collaborative tool to have to give INCOMING MESSAGES or THREADS a whole new name -- now -- what is it? In your inbox, there is a WAVE? What, I asked I colleague. "A wave." What's a wave?" ... Well it's a (4)
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (4) CONTD -- it's a group collaborative thread where anyone can edit in real time. ME: Oh. Well that was simple. Why don't they just stick with MESSAGE or thread in the inbox? And allow people to grasp it as an ENHANCED MESSAGE with real-time collaboration? They can BRAND it as the product name, but do we need the FUNCTIONAL ITEM to be called a "wave"? No. That was its biggest mistake that kept hundreds of thousands of people from "getting" it right out the gate. There is an (5)
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (5) underlying arrogance -- unspoken and unintentional -- when everyone needs to completely REINVENT everything -- and the fact is, this was not a reinvention of everything. But "WAVE" isn't the first "sinner" in this category of "Let's invent a new word for our baby's function!". One of the biggest reasons WIKIS have failed to be adopted by mainstream - as tools they use to BUILD collaborative knowledge-bases - is due to the stupid cutesy name an engineer thought had great homage
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite to the Hawaiian word wiki-wiki for "Hurry." ... What relevance does that have to a real-time collaborative, editable, knowledge base that maintains all prior iterations, you ask? NONE. And thus most of the world are consumers of wikipedia., not contributers. THANKS for that great name of the functional thing, engineers! The irony is, in THIS regardm Google got it right. Though they are reinventing the wheel with their own product, knol -- the name DOES sound congruent with what (6)
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (6) CONTD -- they say it means "a unit of knowledge" -- That is actually beautiful & eloquent & perfect. A "wave"? No. A wiki? No. A BLOG? No. But we've gotten used to that one. But it took years before it penetrated mainstream. It took the Presidential campaign run of Howard Dean to break that into the mainstream because 1001 media outlets ALL had to do their repetitive story on "what makes the Dean campaign unique?There's this thing called a Meetup, & something called a BLOG"..
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (6) CONT'D -- but prior to that? NO ONE knew, other than bloggers and sycophants, WTF is a blog? And even if you spelled out its originating name: Web Log, it really doesn't accurately describe what a blog is. ... I've spent years in advertising, design, marketing and branding, so I fully understand the need for short, catchy words on which to hook a concept. But that's just it: Advertising, by its very nature, could succeed at taking a previously unknown sound, and turn it into
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (7) CONT'D -- a household term, eventually understood by all through constant repetition on TV, in magazines, on billboards, etc. We know what a POST-IT note is because of advertising. We never knew what a VERIZON is until advertising slammed into our heads as a made-up word that was brand name. WIKI? There is no ad campaign to explain that word. BLOG? There were no ad dollars. WAVE? what is a "wave" in terms of the family of email, forums, wikis, etc? AN INVENTED TERM. We had no
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (8) CONT'D -- reference for "what is a wave" -- other than -- we know a ocean wave, we know a wave in a stadium, we know a "hello" wave, but the big mistake of these product developers was, unknowingly, having the arrogance to think their thingamajig qualified for a whole new category of functional term. It didn't. And for me, when I finally discovered after my first day of using it with a bunch of folks - "wait a minute - THAT's all this is? I thought there would be annotatable
quicksite 1 year ago
@quicksite (9) CONT'D -- I thought there would be annotatable videos and drawing right on top of videos, and all of those kind of real-time shared whiteboarding tools - which had themselves been around for over 15 years in various products that had come and gone. So to me? To see that right hand pane -- and the big DEAL was inserting real-time comments from a group of people? THIS was worthy of a NEW FUNCTIONAL CATEGORY? No way. Had the inbox "thing" been a thread? That would've made sense. end
quicksite 1 year ago
It would work great if everyone was there.
But the problem is that no-one is using it, and there's no way (that I know of) to get your existing emails, chats, FB friends on to Wave.
There's no way (that I know of) to get your data out Wave.
And lastly, there's too much stuff available dumped onto the users all at once.
An incremental release of the various features (you know, as soon as people stops getting excited about chat enable the next one) would have also helped.
peppeddu 1 year ago
better i use facebook
parnace 1 year ago
@parnace Google pulled the plug on Wave yesterday. LOL!
ZZDaikun 1 year ago
I love the music and the animation. Really fun and dynamic~!
girikeren 1 year ago
Hey Can you please Subscribe to my channel and ill sub back , you wont regret it later on when our amazing videos will be coming up , not like any others its different and were starting so we hope you do , please send a friend invitation if it doesn't bother you , thanks =')
Co27x 1 year ago
wow! another new & great features from google!!
bluelights1019 1 year ago
@bluelights1019 Actually this app created long time ago, but now its goes public
girikeren 1 year ago
Lol I like those sketches xD!!!
Nice feature google :D!
kosmaverick 1 year ago
Awesome
MrNerd243 1 year ago