@sirach FUCKING MABUHAY!! lol :o) I can relate 100% to that statement.. for my own country Greece,having been colonized by the barbaric Turks for 400 plus years,we have lost many of our day to day words,customs cuisine and some musical elements and dances..the when the Romans Christianized us by force that was it..(as we were originally pagans and the country was comprised of different regions with different rulers,gods etc) thats why I love the Philippines so much..we share a common burden :o(
Yo creo que los norteamericanos nos tenían envidia por haber conquistado tantísimos territorios del mundo. Nos derrotaron en Filipinas pero nuestra cultura los va cambiando gracias a los hispanos en E.E.U.U.
On January 16, 1899, Sumner addressed an overflow crowd brimming with patriotic pride. With studied irony, Sumner titled his talk "The Conquest of the United States by Spain."
Sumner threw down the gauntlet:
"We have beaten Spain in a military conflict, but we are submitting to be conquered by her on the field of ideas and policies. Expansionism and imperialism are nothing but the old philosophies of national prosperity which have brought Spain to where she is now."
@sirach Oh and one more thing you forgot, we were also polytheistic, belief in more than one god, why do you think there was a title for the kingdoms of luzon back then called "lakan"? It means "descendant of the gods".
@sirach And "Purist" is very inaccurate, more so Im just being culutrally aware of my people, answer this question, do you think everyone of our ancestors were tribal folk? If you do, you need more research and shouldn't even be arguing with me to begin with. If you don't want to see the beauty of your own people's culture, then go ahead and be something else, if you are doing this for religious reasons, then you are stupid, you don't have to connect culture and religion.
@sirach hmm, compare the different languages in the Philippines, you will see an extreme similarity, but being tons different as well. The archipelago was separated by who was ruling, but the people, not so different, just in cultures because not everyone was influenced the exact same way. Oh and just so you know, christianity isn't solely spanish, if the spanish weren't here the portuguese would continue to teach us, like they did the Japanese. Fail arguement.
@fragaboveyou Oh, you do not know how much filipinos there are that hate America, I would gladly piss on the graves of Ferdinand Magellan, Legazpi, and President Mckinley(the person who assassinated him is my hero). I would see a public basterdization and beating of Legazpi's statue. But those do not help us recover, perhaps when the mother-country regains the wealth of our ancestors(funny thing is they were richer and more prosperous than us in their kingdoms), we will realize.
@ThtOnePinoy to use the words of my tatay.. "I have only been once,and seen just a little but..the Philippines is and always will be,naturally a very rich country and with a people who are more civilized than our own - the Greeks of today"
@sirach freeing us from the hispanic culture to give us a chance to recognize the beauty of our own ten-fold I would prefer than living in a culture that I know is not my own, but killing innocents and doing just the same as the previous country had, forcing your culture on someone else's, there wasn't really any change, or liberation, just change in who's shoving what down our throats.
@HinataHyugaByakuganK I don't think so, I haven't heard much of british atrocities, I think they were the least meanest, but wasn't around as much as the Americans so you can't be too sure whoever's intentions would be at that point
All of you who think that the Americans killed more Filipinos than the Japs or Spanish is a idiot. Blaming all your troubles on the U.S. is also stupid. We occupied your country for less than 50 years, gave you your freedom and left 10's of thousands of graves in your country. After 333 years of Spanish plunder only Manila Bay had any importance to anyone. When America invaded the full blooded Filipinos were still shitting through cracks in your bamboo floors. Viva Espana?????
Like the Spanish American War both sides in the Phillipinne American war flooded the newstands with so much yellow journalism and propaganda the truth about what actually happened will never be known, all that is certain is that tensions between US and Fillipino Forces were at the breaking point in the aftermath of the spanish-american war owing to the debate in Washington about what to do with the Phillippines since the victory there was a surprise, and a confrontation was inevitable
all the people arguing in the comments, this gets us no where. saying you hate a nation and all its people because of something they weren't around for is just dumb. move forward, think ahead, but dont forget the past but dont use it to attack people. Use the past as learning how to be better.
@ThtOnePinoy what u said here is idneed completely true and fair..so ultimately what SHOULD have happened,was for the Spanish not to have invaded/colonized at all.because they are as much to blame anyone else,and its no secret how barbaric they are,as any other western civilization. but to summarize,just like the Americans and other consider the Asian and Negros to be an inferior race,simply because they are not FUCKING WHITE.. I personally consider Asians and Negros to be the ONLY civilized and
peaceful HUMANS who are nice and simple,close to mother earth with grand philosophy,culture,history and indeed cuisine.. :o) as for my username..dont take it TOO seriously,but as sad as it is..with whats going on now in iraq and other non western nations..its either them,or the non whites..and I just said that to piss off some typical cowboy freaks who have names like "Filipino hater" "Filipinos suck shit" with their foul racist rants,which anger me.I am white & ashamed to be!
tats why i like Filipinas, they would gladly forgive anyone who do atrocities to them especially white ppl, and would readily offer their ass to b fuck by them also, since nearly all of them had lost their original names, culture and religion( most have spanish names) bunch of cocksuckers
Poor Filipinos, wanted independance and got it. Only to be ruled by what? there biggest export is their overseas workers who send money back to family, damn Spanish, American, Japanese , then themselves. yes if all the asian markets had stuck together how powerful they would have been instead of the wheelin and dealin western markets, something to really think about
@churdude Our ancestors time it was sort of like that actually, except we surpassed in the markets, and our ancestors kingdoms(not the tribes) in what is now known as luzon flourished and prospered as a result, today? We're the exact opposite, poorer than our ancestors, culturally, mentally, and as a people...
@ThtOnePinoy w0w thanks for that , I had no idea. Though being in the asian trade, yes I can see how rich it was. Was is a sad word to use. I look forward to visting this beautiful country very soon, so many cultures to see!.
@ThtOnePinoy I like a person who is patriotic more than anything else I may like. (especially one who is not bias enough to ignore possible flaws of their nation) wanna know what corruption and betrayal is really like? ask me about my native Greece lol. seriously,we have been governed so many decades by traitors,plunderers and all by foreign control. if there IS any poverty from a cultural,intellectual or social in the Philippines..it's only because of white aggression&of foreign based religion
censorship solves nothing. it just makes sure that people don't learn from the past.
think about it, if the american people knew in depth all the atrocities committed by their government and armed forces in the Philippines, how would Vietnam have turned out? or Iraq? or perhaps, going backward, if they understood as a nation how they sealed the fate of the Native American people, would they have ever gone into conquests of imperialism in the first place?
@geosistemas exactly..and the only reason the Japanese scum invaded and commited killings was simply because this poor beautiful pure nation was at the time under American rule - the Japs and Yanks were fighting - so the Japs like immature kids,decided to take it from the yanks,just like THEY did from the spanish
captured and killed.. the cowboys burn the ENTIRE island of Samar,where my wife comes from,and at least not just fighters,but women and children too!! disgusting!!
i know the Yanks have done some bad in this war but we Asians never forget that Japanese have done more harm than America did in this war. we asians should stick together like rice, not see oneself as 'superior' like the Japanese. In the Philippines-American war, The US killed over 1 million Filipinos. The Japanese murdered around 6 million Filipinos. Japanese went around killing civilians for fun where they throw babies up the air and caught with bayonet. At least US don't behave like that.
@publicmario17 You are wrong. The USA killed near 3 million civilians in the Philippines in the worst way you can imagine. 600.000 in Batangas province alone. I have good sources. I´ve heard about Japanese atrocities during SWW too, but i seriously don´t think that the japanese number of kills and the consistency of them are even near to those the Americans did in a couple of years (1898-1900).
@publicmario17 Just like hating the Spanish or Americans, hating the Japanese does no good, I hope you are not trying to imply that, however if you were trying to say that ALL of us asians should stick together, then yes I agree with you 100%, it was said that the Japanese was looking for Pan-Asianism, but the way WWII turned out, I think everyone turned into their more primal instincts at that time. Today, we should find towards a true Pan-Asianism, such as groups like ASEAN, but more.
@ThtOnePinoy thats the WISEST most sensible and patriotic thing I've ehard.. and I am not Filipino (as much as i wish I was) or Asian in General.. (again,which I was) but I am greek,and I always have said from a long time..Asia should stop arguing for silly petty things and just respect each other and be united,together.. the REAL enimies are the Americans,specially for the Philippines,and every other poorer country which is slowly gaining strength..MABUHAY PILIPINAS AT KAMATAYAN PARA SA AMERIKA
@killerOfAmericans If Philippines was not under control of the United States at the time, it would either have resulted in a victory for the Katipunan(revolutionary army), or would still be under Spain, and if it were still under Spain, the Japanese would still invade, because we would still be under colonization by westerners. Even then, there's no telling what would've happened if the Katipunan won, but there were a lot in there with the "Asia for the asians" in mind.
@killerOfAmericans (continued) and even so, I don't see killing America as a solution, I simply want an Asia that has it's people coexisting in harmony, and co-prosperity.
Philippines is, and forever will be more closer to it's neighbors than the Latin world...
@publicmario17 but we must remember..the only reason the Japanese scum invaded and commited killings was simply because this poor beautiful pure nation was at the time under American rule - the Japs and Yanks were fighting - so the Japs like immature kids,decided to take it from the yanks,just like THEY did from the Spanish..most likely had Pilipinas not been under American rule at the time,the Japs wouldn't give a fuck probably. and for ONE SINGLE American soldier who Pilipino revolutionaries-
I've been there in the Philippines twice. (dos veces) I had a fantastic time meeting with local people including at the Aklan Kalibo festival in Mindoro in '96. I would always like to return there and visit Borakai, Iloillo and Palawan! My girlfriend in Hong-Kong, i don't forget her ever ! I wish Filipinos my hearty regards.
It's not really fair to make any personal judgement about the Spanish and American occupation of the Philippines because our country was not united nor developed then. I think, the Spanish and Americans helped all Filipino's attain this conscious thought of being a nation. In any nation-building, there is great trails and sufferings. In the end, I think we can lift our heads up high and say we are Filipino's. We conquered all and we now have, at least some control, over our own destiny.
@AccordGTR Actually, if you study the sultanate in what is now known as Mindanao and ESPECIALLY the several kingdoms in what is now known as Luzon, you will find that many of our ancestors had been developed and more advanced than their indigenous neighbors, Kingdom of Tondo was already making gun-powder related weapons, why was the 16th century luzon blacksmith called Panday Pilak(Silversmith), and not Panday Bakal(Blacksmith)? Because of manufacturing of guns and cannons to SE and Japan
This documentary does not "hold that the USA commited genocide against the filipinos," and no serious historian of that conflict holds that view. The war was often brutal, to be sure, but there's absolutely no evidence it was "genocide."
It was a ridiculous war, like all wars. Since 1700, the rulers of Spain were authoritarian and a disaster. Spain was a country with many problems. Its rulers have made Spain a backward and poor country. USA knew this and took advantage of it. Spain knew that the war was lost before it starts, just trying to defend his honor. The victims were the people and the spanish soldiers, inexperienced farmers forced to take a rifle.
The Philippines was one of the most advanced countries in Asia with the first public school system, the oldest universities, hospitals, churches, a civil code and a centralized government, not to mention a roads, ports, a railway system and electricity. So your comment about Spain's rule being a "disaster" is kind of wrong.
@jcrbaztan The Spanish influence in the Philippines was localized to small areas, practiced by some religious and soldiers. Spain had not hat the infrastructure to control an archipelago consisting of over 7000 islands and it was ruined. If the influence is greater in the Philippines would follow up speaking Spanish. Look Puerto Rico, 112 years under american influence and they speak Spanish today.
@CnoVoC We can talk about personal opinions or we can talk about historical facts. Spain ruled the Philippines for over 3 centuries, so it must hace exercised some "control". The Philippine Revolution was in Spanish (see works of Rizal, Lopez Jaena and Aguinaldo). The official language of the Philippine Republic of 1899 was Spanish. Philippine classical literature is in Spanish (see Apostol, Balmori, Rizal etc). The Philippines no longer speaks Spanish 'cause US rulers (1903-1946) eliminated it.
I have to let you know that putting the national language of that time in my country as "SPanish" was due to the fact that it's one way of showing control by the Spaniards. But you also have to know that many Filipinos have no knowledge of Spanish especially the LAYMEN, because Spanish is taught mostly to Spanish-blood Filipinos and they're the ones who cna achieve higher educational level. The others, are lucky only to be educated below their level.
Spain was a complete disaster in many ways during the 19th century. Spain was a repressive and oppressive country, and it was in Spain and overseas. The blame for their inept politicians and absolutists, who made disastrous policies for all.
@CnoVoC Your clichés prevent you from looking at history objectively. Spain had serious internal problems in the 19th century, specially due to French occupation in 1807. But Spain put the Philippines at the vanguard of Asia by decreeing the first public education system in Asia (1863). Spain's "Cadiz Constitution" of 1812 gave Filipinos Spanish citizenship and representation in Parliament. Spain built ports, hospitals, railways and introduced electricity in the Philippines. This you ignore.
But yes, Spain had given the Philippines a rich culture and infrastructures, but that doesnt change the fact that we were treated for SLAVERY by most of them. The Laymen especially were discriminated and they call us "brown" meaning the un-educated/brainless ones. They made my ancestors recite in Spanish church hymns and it was one of ways for the deprived children and poor people to learn Spanish on their own.
@Shadelassy You are correct except for the culture part, WE HAD a richer culture, but now it is a culture that is mucked up. If you think our ancestors were primitive, you are dead wrong, the kingdoms in luzon were pretty advanced, and even the indigenous were pretty advanced themselves, pekiti tirsia form of Kali is a clear evidence of this.
@rangergxi amazing, or very risky. In a sense it would make them seem that they would've been the ones to be colonized and had to deal with things more than us.
And if they didn't have the dishonorable "Germ" part, they would not have been able to colonize the americas.
@ThtOnePinoy Europe is perfect for agriculture, The many seaways allow connection to many different cultures and powerful trade, Europeans also earned their immunity after centuries of surviving desease outbreaks from Asia.
The Philippines was a Jungle Island isolated from the world.
@rangergxi It seems you do not know how far we have traded with the rest of Asia, geographically, we were isolated. Politically and in trade? Far from isolated, our kingdoms established diplomatic relations with the Ming Dynasty, and had many trade and relations with Japan, Malaysia, Brunei, etc.
Don't judge something that you obviously don't know much of. If we were more allied towards one another, Spain would've never been able to touch us, and they knew that.
@rangergxi Surviving disease outbreaks from Asia... lol I think you need to learn some history europeans in midevil times thought taking baths were evil and being clean was not important until the muslims educated them. A lot of the plagues are because of european living conditions and living with animals please educate yourself.
@jcrbaztan Not sure about public education, as it may have been very different way for our ancestors back then, but we were the most prominent of Asia long before the rule of Spain, actually,it started to very slowly dwindle with Spain's rule,especially in our culture.
If you think you're looking at history objectively, you are completely wrong, the fact that you don't even know that the riches you refer to where there before Spanish rule makes that clear.Stop hyperboling their rule, it was bad
@CnoVoC USA commited a huge physichal and cultural genocide in the Phillipines for the whole XX century. Any comparison to Spain´s activities in the Phillipines would make the Spaniards look like angels. Period.
@CnoVoC exactly! If the US felt that Spain had a single ounce of its golden years left, the US would not have been eager to pick a fight and INVADE Cuba, Puerto Rico and Filipinas.
They had over 20% of their population massacred and all their historical identity repressed in just a few years. And when they started to recover WWII came along. And now, they are trying to deal with overpopulation, almost 80 million more in just a century.
The real problem is the lack of information and that they are being grotesquely lied about their real roots. But today, with the Internet, those lies just can't hold any longer.
Philippines during the Spanish times was one of the richest places in Asia, the Pearl of the Orient was called. Look at it now, after the American invasion.
Also, during those 50 years the Americans took over, they killed 10 times more Filipinos than the Spaniards ever did.
I'm sorry to hear that. Mine didn't. Nobody in my family ever went to America.
Anyway, don't worry, I believe that criminal instincts are not genetically transmitted.
In any case, we are talking Philippines here, where American troops were ordered to "Kill everyone over ten" . The Spanish never did anything even remotely as despicable as that, in the Philippines, in America or anywhere else.
Oh sorry, I thought for a moment that I was being accused once again of some hideous crimes by the very same people whose family committed them. It's kind of odd, you know, to have people whose ancestors actually perpetrated those allegedly ignominious actions, blaming you directly for them.
By the way, are you by any chance, a relative of those "brave" soldiers who "fought" and killed 10-year-olds in the Philippines?
@pelotillo HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....i love your comment....but hey...the native Americans had civilization and prosperity on their own BEFORE Christopher Columbus found it...Please review the world history and also take note on meaning of "civilization" and research on what do they really meant of the word "civilization" and how europe manipulated the use of this word to colonize other countries.
and he was also behind the assassination of heneral Luna and Bonifacio... Luna was the most abled filipino general that time... i dont know why they still put aguinaldo in the list of filipino heroes
America has no native group other then the native americans, all the rest are just decedents of immigrants...Americas are nothing more than euro mutts...that's why you are all so ugly...
I'm Spanish, and in Spain this war is known as "The War with Cuba" not "Spanish/American" Americans put it to hide the fact that they simply stuck their noses in our business. Btw, i'm half American as well, so don't use the biased card.
At the time of the war, USA had a lot of economical interests in Cuba. Most of the Cuban commerce was with USA rather than Spain. So really, USA did not stuck their noses in Spain business. The business were mostly American.
Cuba was under Spanish Rule, hence anything USA did with Cuba they did with Spain, because before any independence took place "Cuba" was not an independent country.
Another big problem was the poor acts of the press. The ship that blew up that led to the war was most likely blown up due to an accident. But the press claimed Spain attacked us and before the government could figure out what really happened the public was calling for war.
Also, this is the first time I've ever heard the term half-American....
Good point. As for the half-american. I was born in the US to Spanish parents have lived in both countries hold dual-citizenship/nationality. I don't know how else to put it?
You were only granted US citizenship due to a fluke in our constitution. your parents are Spanish. As far as i am concerned, that portion of the constitution, known as birthright citizenship, should be revoked. nothing personal. It has led to a flood of illegals who stream over here to drop babies and gain a toe-hold. unless at least one parent is a citizen, I believe the children should not be grant it.
well my father did already have american citizenship as well but yes I agree with what you're saying. In Spain, they do not allow citizenship just because you were born in the country, the blood has to run through your veins for you to have that right. This has helped the great illegal immigration problem they have over there and the US should most definatly establish it, imo.
Ok lol Spain is a 1st world country, and its part of the Europeans Union and uses the Euro...which is worth more than the dollar by the way...Spaniards don't need to immigrate to the US or any other country, and when they do it's usually to another Europeans country, and it's not long term...Europeans don't need American for anything...we've got better healthcare and our currency is worth more...
Americans did horrible things to Filipinos in the philippine-American war.....Very sad....Being Jap/American, I I know we did bad stuff in WW2....but America is known for sticking their fat red white and blue cocks up every nations arsehole. Im ashamed to be born here, at least after 2 atom bombs Japan is doing fine, US has Economical problems, not to mention being hated by the rest of the world aside from N. Korea.
killing millions of innocent Filipinos in such brutality,beheading children,Baynoteng pregnant women and cuttign there throats and beheading priests,filpino-american soldiers.
Thats the worse sort of brutal atrocity ever since.
This goes to show that the land of the free and equality only works if your white. The yankee has never respected the filipino people and it's culture. They betrayed and denied the filipino people of their independance from spain and instead wage a war against my people boardering genocide. I use to be an admire of the american ideal.....but knowing now what they did to my people and my country shows they are no different from there european counterparts! MABUHAY PHILIPPINES!!
Most people don't realize that the Philippines were about to gain independence from Spain with the First Philippine Republic (1899) with Aguinaldo as President. However, General Dewey and his forces betrayed Aguinaldo and occupied the islands by force. Dewey broke his promise of independence to the trusting Filipino gentlemen and behaved like a common liar and cheat, showing he knew nothing of honor and dignity.
This led to the Philippine-American War in which 1 million Filipinos perished.
Spain did not blow up the Maine in Cuba. It was the US that did it, to create an excuse to declare war on Spain, and take over its overseas territories: Cuba, Guam, Mariana Islands and the Philippines, of course.
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the spanish did next to nothing in the american revolution. all they did was to agree not to side with the british for the greater part of the war, when they did declare war on the british the war had already been pretty much decided in the american's favor.
spain, the sick man of western europe from the 1680's on, late to the party as usual.
United States history textbooks seldom mention the important contributions by our "forgotten allies," Spain and Hispanic America, during the American Revolution. They also forget that they helped in the establishment and growth of the first democracy in the modern world.
The neglect in reporting Hispanic contributions extends to all periods of American history. Textbooks also fail to mention the role of 10,000 Hispanic soldiers who fought on both sides of the Civil War.
You're a perfect example of what the american education system wants people think. Actually I'm studying History in an austrian university, and I have learned how important were Spain and France in the American Revolution, because France sent an army from Europe and Spain did it too from their american colonies.
@Fricobi there where no actual spanish troops taking part in any battle of the revolutionary war. they did not fight side by side with us as the french did. all they did was harrass british shipping in the caribbean...sure they got an army together to invade jamaica, but they never actually did, and that was outside the scope of the war as it was waged on the north american continent anyways.
Even if there were no Spanish units fighting side by side with the Revolutionaires, Spanish Army fought the British in Pensacola and many other battles, as well as helping the Rebels with weapons, ammunition and money.
for all your bitching about "americans killed so and so and raped so and so" the philippines remain the most pro american country in asia by a wide margin. that probably wouldent be the case if we had treated the pinoys/pinays as badly as people in this thread infer.
The Philippines is pro-American because the US administration in the Philippines fed young Filipinos a lot of American propaganda through the education system. History books were rewritten with myths like "Americans liberated the Philippines" and "America brought peace, democracy and education to the Philippines". Twisted history books also ignored the biggest genocide in the country's history: the Phil-American War, when more Filipinos died than in the entire 300-year Spanish colonial period.
Americans came in the right timing for us Filipinos. The Spaniards dun treat us right. They can barely teach us Spanish because that language they said, is not for the "brown skinned people", meaning at that time, slaves, ignorant, "bobo" or brainless, and uncivilized. SO it's the Spaniards fault for not treating us WELL in the first place.
@Shadelassy mexico, peru, bolivia, etc are full of brown skinned people. i disagree about the thought of them not wanting to teach us. if they did not teach us properly, there would have been a deeper reason than that
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i must point out that the spanish started this war by blowing up the maine. we just finished it by amputating what was left of spain's latin american colonial empire.
I couldnt agree with you anymore. Save the good and let the rest kill eachother. Thats what I try to do. Take care of your love ones and try to enjoy life. Just try, because like you said, theres nothing to do but accept the human way.
Yes, I very much agree. Thats why my girlfriend now is Chinese, race does not make a person, besides the 1 race is Human, we just tend to look and act a little different, but we are the same. No one in the world is right for causing pain to another. You are only right when you unite and bring together people for peace and fighting the real battles in this world such as disease, famine, criminals and other natural enemies.
España y Filipinas son como hermanos. somos orgullosos de nuestra herencia española. la cultura española es mayores partes de cultura filipina. los filipinos deben aprender hablar español otra vez tan bien como inglés.
Filipinos are Asians no doubt about that. Their culture and history however are heavily influenced by Spain. And Spain was in the Philippines longer than many countries in Latin America.
Some Filipinos have Spanish/Hispanic blood although they are in the minority. There's nothing wrong with looking back into one's history and investigating one's culture. You need to travel and find out for yourself.....
Listen, my point is that no matter how bad the US had been for your country,Spain is not any better. Many Filipinos think that the Spanish colony is way better than the american, and they feel proud of their spanish influence. but the cold and ugly thuth, is that a lot of spaniards(not all) dont give a shit about the Filipines, or any other ex colony. Just say "Viva Filipinas" and forget Spain. is sad to say, but in Spain, filipinos,cubans,colombians, are viewed as second class citizens.
Also in your original post you pointed out that Filipinos are Asians not Spaniards. Most Filipinos are intelligent enough to realize that so you don't have to tell them about that.
Regarding Spain, there are good and bad in every country. My brothers have been to Spain and one of them stayed for more than a year and has never experienced being a "second class citizen."
I don't know about your experiences but I respect your opinion just as surely you respect mine.
I'm spanish and I'm glad to feel some kind of connection, cultural or somehow, with filipinos, cubanos, argentinos, mejicanos... when I talk with them in the university =)
if they're legal then yes, if not they're destroying Spain's roots and purity. And believe me when you're on the outside looking in you realize the mentality they have towards Spaniards. My best friend is mexican and I love him, in fact pretty much all my friends that are not from Spain are from South America. But the people that invade Spain ilegally to lay babies and that cause violence and then even rebel against true spaniards in my opinion deserve the term "Sudacas". Salu2 ;)
¿Y qué inconveniente tiene el ser asiático? Un español es europeo, un chileno americano, un filipino asiático y un guineano africano; y no por ello va a dejar de hablar español alguno de ellos... Si un filipino quiere hablar español, ¿por qué no?
@Fricobi lo siento pero no habla español muy bueno. we use a lot spanish words in our dialects here, its just not being taught anymore. the president back in the 80s stopped it from being taught in school. spain tried to teach people spanish here, but then the yanks stopped it from being taught as well. some souther parts of the philippines habla chavacano. Chavacano es español mezclado con visaya.
what were the spanish and the US doing in the Philippines? looking for terrorists? bringing freedom? bringing democracy? again? no, robbing land and rescources
@lunafringe10 that's it! plain and simple..no need for much analysis or bullshit.. it has natural resources? its vulnerable to server and brutal innovation and conquest.
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@sirach FUCKING MABUHAY!! lol :o) I can relate 100% to that statement.. for my own country Greece,having been colonized by the barbaric Turks for 400 plus years,we have lost many of our day to day words,customs cuisine and some musical elements and dances..the when the Romans Christianized us by force that was it..(as we were originally pagans and the country was comprised of different regions with different rulers,gods etc) thats why I love the Philippines so much..we share a common burden :o(
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Im Pinoy,you can't change what happens we try and live with it..Fuck your conspiracy bull shit dirty minds its 2011 Mabuhay!!!!
hatechinaandbuda 4 months ago
@sirach don't forget islam!
copypacercopypacer 6 months ago
Yo creo que los norteamericanos nos tenían envidia por haber conquistado tantísimos territorios del mundo. Nos derrotaron en Filipinas pero nuestra cultura los va cambiando gracias a los hispanos en E.E.U.U.
cristobalito1966 6 months ago
what documentary is this?
tsalazarrubio 7 months ago
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On January 16, 1899, Sumner addressed an overflow crowd brimming with patriotic pride. With studied irony, Sumner titled his talk "The Conquest of the United States by Spain."
Sumner threw down the gauntlet:
"We have beaten Spain in a military conflict, but we are submitting to be conquered by her on the field of ideas and policies. Expansionism and imperialism are nothing but the old philosophies of national prosperity which have brought Spain to where she is now."
PROPHETIC
PoetsLight 8 months ago
@sirach Oh and one more thing you forgot, we were also polytheistic, belief in more than one god, why do you think there was a title for the kingdoms of luzon back then called "lakan"? It means "descendant of the gods".
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@sirach And "Purist" is very inaccurate, more so Im just being culutrally aware of my people, answer this question, do you think everyone of our ancestors were tribal folk? If you do, you need more research and shouldn't even be arguing with me to begin with. If you don't want to see the beauty of your own people's culture, then go ahead and be something else, if you are doing this for religious reasons, then you are stupid, you don't have to connect culture and religion.
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@sirach hmm, compare the different languages in the Philippines, you will see an extreme similarity, but being tons different as well. The archipelago was separated by who was ruling, but the people, not so different, just in cultures because not everyone was influenced the exact same way. Oh and just so you know, christianity isn't solely spanish, if the spanish weren't here the portuguese would continue to teach us, like they did the Japanese. Fail arguement.
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@fragaboveyou Oh, you do not know how much filipinos there are that hate America, I would gladly piss on the graves of Ferdinand Magellan, Legazpi, and President Mckinley(the person who assassinated him is my hero). I would see a public basterdization and beating of Legazpi's statue. But those do not help us recover, perhaps when the mother-country regains the wealth of our ancestors(funny thing is they were richer and more prosperous than us in their kingdoms), we will realize.
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy to use the words of my tatay.. "I have only been once,and seen just a little but..the Philippines is and always will be,naturally a very rich country and with a people who are more civilized than our own - the Greeks of today"
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
@sirach freeing us from the hispanic culture to give us a chance to recognize the beauty of our own ten-fold I would prefer than living in a culture that I know is not my own, but killing innocents and doing just the same as the previous country had, forcing your culture on someone else's, there wasn't really any change, or liberation, just change in who's shoving what down our throats.
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@HinataHyugaByakuganK I don't think so, I haven't heard much of british atrocities, I think they were the least meanest, but wasn't around as much as the Americans so you can't be too sure whoever's intentions would be at that point
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
bahaha now Spain is some borderline communist hellhole
unseenxxx 9 months ago
@1521HernanCortes
Be quiet you pathetic Moorish-Gypsy Spaniard!
DixieRulez 9 months ago
All of you who think that the Americans killed more Filipinos than the Japs or Spanish is a idiot. Blaming all your troubles on the U.S. is also stupid. We occupied your country for less than 50 years, gave you your freedom and left 10's of thousands of graves in your country. After 333 years of Spanish plunder only Manila Bay had any importance to anyone. When America invaded the full blooded Filipinos were still shitting through cracks in your bamboo floors. Viva Espana?????
apacogon 10 months ago
Like the Spanish American War both sides in the Phillipinne American war flooded the newstands with so much yellow journalism and propaganda the truth about what actually happened will never be known, all that is certain is that tensions between US and Fillipino Forces were at the breaking point in the aftermath of the spanish-american war owing to the debate in Washington about what to do with the Phillippines since the victory there was a surprise, and a confrontation was inevitable
snakes3425 10 months ago
all the people arguing in the comments, this gets us no where. saying you hate a nation and all its people because of something they weren't around for is just dumb. move forward, think ahead, but dont forget the past but dont use it to attack people. Use the past as learning how to be better.
Logicfray 11 months ago
@Logicfray Probably one of the few sensible comments on this comment thread, thanks so much...
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy what u said here is idneed completely true and fair..so ultimately what SHOULD have happened,was for the Spanish not to have invaded/colonized at all.because they are as much to blame anyone else,and its no secret how barbaric they are,as any other western civilization. but to summarize,just like the Americans and other consider the Asian and Negros to be an inferior race,simply because they are not FUCKING WHITE.. I personally consider Asians and Negros to be the ONLY civilized and
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
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killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
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peaceful HUMANS who are nice and simple,close to mother earth with grand philosophy,culture,history and indeed cuisine.. :o) as for my username..dont take it TOO seriously,but as sad as it is..with whats going on now in iraq and other non western nations..its either them,or the non whites..and I just said that to piss off some typical cowboy freaks who have names like "Filipino hater" "Filipinos suck shit" with their foul racist rants,which anger me.I am white & ashamed to be!
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
Americans are s@#@# they murdered and rape filipino people even a 10 year old treated them no mercy!
Archraveful 11 months ago
@Archraveful american IS NOT nation THE WHITE americans ARE ETHNIC GERMANS
unfukkkmee 10 months ago
tats why i like Filipinas, they would gladly forgive anyone who do atrocities to them especially white ppl, and would readily offer their ass to b fuck by them also, since nearly all of them had lost their original names, culture and religion( most have spanish names) bunch of cocksuckers
zayyad31 11 months ago
¡Un saludo amigos! Desde el @ Canal de Filipinas en idioma español.
RepublicadeFilipinas 11 months ago
Poor Filipinos, wanted independance and got it. Only to be ruled by what? there biggest export is their overseas workers who send money back to family, damn Spanish, American, Japanese , then themselves. yes if all the asian markets had stuck together how powerful they would have been instead of the wheelin and dealin western markets, something to really think about
churdude 1 year ago 3
@churdude Our ancestors time it was sort of like that actually, except we surpassed in the markets, and our ancestors kingdoms(not the tribes) in what is now known as luzon flourished and prospered as a result, today? We're the exact opposite, poorer than our ancestors, culturally, mentally, and as a people...
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy w0w thanks for that , I had no idea. Though being in the asian trade, yes I can see how rich it was. Was is a sad word to use. I look forward to visting this beautiful country very soon, so many cultures to see!.
churdude 8 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy I like a person who is patriotic more than anything else I may like. (especially one who is not bias enough to ignore possible flaws of their nation) wanna know what corruption and betrayal is really like? ask me about my native Greece lol. seriously,we have been governed so many decades by traitors,plunderers and all by foreign control. if there IS any poverty from a cultural,intellectual or social in the Philippines..it's only because of white aggression&of foreign based religion
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
censorship solves nothing. it just makes sure that people don't learn from the past.
think about it, if the american people knew in depth all the atrocities committed by their government and armed forces in the Philippines, how would Vietnam have turned out? or Iraq? or perhaps, going backward, if they understood as a nation how they sealed the fate of the Native American people, would they have ever gone into conquests of imperialism in the first place?
RunningPen 1 year ago
The only country that committed genocide there was the USA
geosistemas 1 year ago 3
@geosistemas exactly..and the only reason the Japanese scum invaded and commited killings was simply because this poor beautiful pure nation was at the time under American rule - the Japs and Yanks were fighting - so the Japs like immature kids,decided to take it from the yanks,just like THEY did from the spanish
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
captured and killed.. the cowboys burn the ENTIRE island of Samar,where my wife comes from,and at least not just fighters,but women and children too!! disgusting!!
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
i know the Yanks have done some bad in this war but we Asians never forget that Japanese have done more harm than America did in this war. we asians should stick together like rice, not see oneself as 'superior' like the Japanese. In the Philippines-American war, The US killed over 1 million Filipinos. The Japanese murdered around 6 million Filipinos. Japanese went around killing civilians for fun where they throw babies up the air and caught with bayonet. At least US don't behave like that.
publicmario17 1 year ago
@publicmario17 You are wrong. The USA killed near 3 million civilians in the Philippines in the worst way you can imagine. 600.000 in Batangas province alone. I have good sources. I´ve heard about Japanese atrocities during SWW too, but i seriously don´t think that the japanese number of kills and the consistency of them are even near to those the Americans did in a couple of years (1898-1900).
vborneo 11 months ago
@publicmario17 Just like hating the Spanish or Americans, hating the Japanese does no good, I hope you are not trying to imply that, however if you were trying to say that ALL of us asians should stick together, then yes I agree with you 100%, it was said that the Japanese was looking for Pan-Asianism, but the way WWII turned out, I think everyone turned into their more primal instincts at that time. Today, we should find towards a true Pan-Asianism, such as groups like ASEAN, but more.
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy thats the WISEST most sensible and patriotic thing I've ehard.. and I am not Filipino (as much as i wish I was) or Asian in General.. (again,which I was) but I am greek,and I always have said from a long time..Asia should stop arguing for silly petty things and just respect each other and be united,together.. the REAL enimies are the Americans,specially for the Philippines,and every other poorer country which is slowly gaining strength..MABUHAY PILIPINAS AT KAMATAYAN PARA SA AMERIKA
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
@killerOfAmericans If Philippines was not under control of the United States at the time, it would either have resulted in a victory for the Katipunan(revolutionary army), or would still be under Spain, and if it were still under Spain, the Japanese would still invade, because we would still be under colonization by westerners. Even then, there's no telling what would've happened if the Katipunan won, but there were a lot in there with the "Asia for the asians" in mind.
ThtOnePinoy 2 months ago
@killerOfAmericans (continued) and even so, I don't see killing America as a solution, I simply want an Asia that has it's people coexisting in harmony, and co-prosperity.
Philippines is, and forever will be more closer to it's neighbors than the Latin world...
ThtOnePinoy 2 months ago
@publicmario17 but we must remember..the only reason the Japanese scum invaded and commited killings was simply because this poor beautiful pure nation was at the time under American rule - the Japs and Yanks were fighting - so the Japs like immature kids,decided to take it from the yanks,just like THEY did from the Spanish..most likely had Pilipinas not been under American rule at the time,the Japs wouldn't give a fuck probably. and for ONE SINGLE American soldier who Pilipino revolutionaries-
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago
merry christmas and a happy new year to all nations of the world! stop tears and pain, thumbs up for me please!~
joey143anna 1 year ago
@fragaboveyou true that!
bugilator 1 year ago
I've been there in the Philippines twice. (dos veces) I had a fantastic time meeting with local people including at the Aklan Kalibo festival in Mindoro in '96. I would always like to return there and visit Borakai, Iloillo and Palawan! My girlfriend in Hong-Kong, i don't forget her ever ! I wish Filipinos my hearty regards.
jimbowie09 1 year ago
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what is the name of this documentary?
Death6437 1 year ago
what is the name of this documentary?
Death6437 1 year ago
Filipinos are the nicest human beings in the world..warm,modest. full of smiles, hospitable and humble
deathscythekim729 1 year ago
It's not really fair to make any personal judgement about the Spanish and American occupation of the Philippines because our country was not united nor developed then. I think, the Spanish and Americans helped all Filipino's attain this conscious thought of being a nation. In any nation-building, there is great trails and sufferings. In the end, I think we can lift our heads up high and say we are Filipino's. We conquered all and we now have, at least some control, over our own destiny.
AccordGTR 1 year ago
@AccordGTR Actually, if you study the sultanate in what is now known as Mindanao and ESPECIALLY the several kingdoms in what is now known as Luzon, you will find that many of our ancestors had been developed and more advanced than their indigenous neighbors, Kingdom of Tondo was already making gun-powder related weapons, why was the 16th century luzon blacksmith called Panday Pilak(Silversmith), and not Panday Bakal(Blacksmith)? Because of manufacturing of guns and cannons to SE and Japan
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@AccordGTR in exchange for silver
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
i get more info reading comments than the video itself. hahaha thanks!
nnniiaa 1 year ago
USA blitzkrieg Spain.
JosephStalin11 1 year ago
the irony is theres plenty of pinoys in southern Cali, mainly in Carson.
mango7272 1 year ago
Was that a submarine at 0:30?
Batamon1997 1 year ago
My great great grandfather fought in this war.
iceboxlabradors 1 year ago
I never, never said so. On the contrary. What I say, and this documentary holds, is that the USA commited genocide against the filipinos.
tierraboricua 1 year ago 11
@tierraboricua
This documentary does not "hold that the USA commited genocide against the filipinos," and no serious historian of that conflict holds that view. The war was often brutal, to be sure, but there's absolutely no evidence it was "genocide."
KonradAdenauerJr 6 months ago
It was a ridiculous war, like all wars. Since 1700, the rulers of Spain were authoritarian and a disaster. Spain was a country with many problems. Its rulers have made Spain a backward and poor country. USA knew this and took advantage of it. Spain knew that the war was lost before it starts, just trying to defend his honor. The victims were the people and the spanish soldiers, inexperienced farmers forced to take a rifle.
CnoVoC 1 year ago 15
@CnoVoC One of the best comment. Uno de los mejores comentarios. You know very well Spain's history. Conoces muy bien la historia de España.
tierraboricua 1 year ago 2
@CnoVoC
The Philippines was one of the most advanced countries in Asia with the first public school system, the oldest universities, hospitals, churches, a civil code and a centralized government, not to mention a roads, ports, a railway system and electricity. So your comment about Spain's rule being a "disaster" is kind of wrong.
jcrbaztan 1 year ago
@jcrbaztan The Spanish influence in the Philippines was localized to small areas, practiced by some religious and soldiers. Spain had not hat the infrastructure to control an archipelago consisting of over 7000 islands and it was ruined. If the influence is greater in the Philippines would follow up speaking Spanish. Look Puerto Rico, 112 years under american influence and they speak Spanish today.
CnoVoC 1 year ago 6
@CnoVoC We can talk about personal opinions or we can talk about historical facts. Spain ruled the Philippines for over 3 centuries, so it must hace exercised some "control". The Philippine Revolution was in Spanish (see works of Rizal, Lopez Jaena and Aguinaldo). The official language of the Philippine Republic of 1899 was Spanish. Philippine classical literature is in Spanish (see Apostol, Balmori, Rizal etc). The Philippines no longer speaks Spanish 'cause US rulers (1903-1946) eliminated it.
jcrbaztan 1 year ago
@jcrbaztan
I have to let you know that putting the national language of that time in my country as "SPanish" was due to the fact that it's one way of showing control by the Spaniards. But you also have to know that many Filipinos have no knowledge of Spanish especially the LAYMEN, because Spanish is taught mostly to Spanish-blood Filipinos and they're the ones who cna achieve higher educational level. The others, are lucky only to be educated below their level.
Shadelassy 1 year ago
@jcrbaztan
Isn't today Philippines language Filipino and Spanish?
OlderG0ds 1 year ago
@jcrbaztan
Spain was a complete disaster in many ways during the 19th century. Spain was a repressive and oppressive country, and it was in Spain and overseas. The blame for their inept politicians and absolutists, who made disastrous policies for all.
CnoVoC 1 year ago
@CnoVoC Your clichés prevent you from looking at history objectively. Spain had serious internal problems in the 19th century, specially due to French occupation in 1807. But Spain put the Philippines at the vanguard of Asia by decreeing the first public education system in Asia (1863). Spain's "Cadiz Constitution" of 1812 gave Filipinos Spanish citizenship and representation in Parliament. Spain built ports, hospitals, railways and introduced electricity in the Philippines. This you ignore.
jcrbaztan 1 year ago
@jcrbaztan
But yes, Spain had given the Philippines a rich culture and infrastructures, but that doesnt change the fact that we were treated for SLAVERY by most of them. The Laymen especially were discriminated and they call us "brown" meaning the un-educated/brainless ones. They made my ancestors recite in Spanish church hymns and it was one of ways for the deprived children and poor people to learn Spanish on their own.
Shadelassy 1 year ago
@Shadelassy You are correct except for the culture part, WE HAD a richer culture, but now it is a culture that is mucked up. If you think our ancestors were primitive, you are dead wrong, the kingdoms in luzon were pretty advanced, and even the indigenous were pretty advanced themselves, pekiti tirsia form of Kali is a clear evidence of this.
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Europeans were only awesome because of their amazing position on the Globe.
Guns, Germs and Steel
rangergxi 6 months ago in playlist history 1301
@rangergxi amazing, or very risky. In a sense it would make them seem that they would've been the ones to be colonized and had to deal with things more than us.
And if they didn't have the dishonorable "Germ" part, they would not have been able to colonize the americas.
ThtOnePinoy 6 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy Europe is perfect for agriculture, The many seaways allow connection to many different cultures and powerful trade, Europeans also earned their immunity after centuries of surviving desease outbreaks from Asia.
The Philippines was a Jungle Island isolated from the world.
rangergxi 6 months ago
@rangergxi It seems you do not know how far we have traded with the rest of Asia, geographically, we were isolated. Politically and in trade? Far from isolated, our kingdoms established diplomatic relations with the Ming Dynasty, and had many trade and relations with Japan, Malaysia, Brunei, etc.
Don't judge something that you obviously don't know much of. If we were more allied towards one another, Spain would've never been able to touch us, and they knew that.
ThtOnePinoy 6 months ago
@rangergxi ur comment made me loled. this just shows how much of a dumbass you are
copypacercopypacer 6 months ago
@rangergxi Surviving disease outbreaks from Asia... lol I think you need to learn some history europeans in midevil times thought taking baths were evil and being clean was not important until the muslims educated them. A lot of the plagues are because of european living conditions and living with animals please educate yourself.
RalphyGreene 4 months ago
@jcrbaztan Not sure about public education, as it may have been very different way for our ancestors back then, but we were the most prominent of Asia long before the rule of Spain, actually,it started to very slowly dwindle with Spain's rule,especially in our culture.
If you think you're looking at history objectively, you are completely wrong, the fact that you don't even know that the riches you refer to where there before Spanish rule makes that clear.Stop hyperboling their rule, it was bad
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vborneo 11 months ago
@CnoVoC USA commited a huge physichal and cultural genocide in the Phillipines for the whole XX century. Any comparison to Spain´s activities in the Phillipines would make the Spaniards look like angels. Period.
vborneo 11 months ago
@vborneo INDEED MY HELLENIC BROTHER. THE spanish HELPED THE FILIPPINOS
unfukkkmee 10 months ago
@unfukkkmee correction, THEY FUCKED US UP, spain did more bad than good, facts are facts, go research what is so obvious.
ThtOnePinoy 8 months ago
@ThtOnePinoy spain OR usa ?
unfukkkmee 8 months ago
@CnoVoC exactly! If the US felt that Spain had a single ounce of its golden years left, the US would not have been eager to pick a fight and INVADE Cuba, Puerto Rico and Filipinas.
Spanishfutbol2010 7 months ago
fucking spanish not filipino
rasenga042 1 year ago
Both of you Spaniards and Americans get away from our land!
ijij123 1 year ago 3
You cannot really blame them for that.
They had over 20% of their population massacred and all their historical identity repressed in just a few years. And when they started to recover WWII came along. And now, they are trying to deal with overpopulation, almost 80 million more in just a century.
The real problem is the lack of information and that they are being grotesquely lied about their real roots. But today, with the Internet, those lies just can't hold any longer.
RafaelMinuesa 1 year ago
Philippines during the Spanish times was one of the richest places in Asia, the Pearl of the Orient was called. Look at it now, after the American invasion.
Also, during those 50 years the Americans took over, they killed 10 times more Filipinos than the Spaniards ever did.
That makes them at least 60 times worse, right?
Just Google: "Kill everyone over ten"
RafaelMinuesa 1 year ago
@RafaelMinuesa have you ever heard when th spanish came to the new world and killed almost all the indians there just for gold
mangokiller111 1 year ago
You mean your ancestors?
I'm sorry to hear that. Mine didn't. Nobody in my family ever went to America.
Anyway, don't worry, I believe that criminal instincts are not genetically transmitted.
In any case, we are talking Philippines here, where American troops were ordered to "Kill everyone over ten" . The Spanish never did anything even remotely as despicable as that, in the Philippines, in America or anywhere else.
RafaelMinuesa 1 year ago
@RafaelMinuesa what are you talking about my ancestors
mangokiller111 1 year ago
Oh sorry, I thought for a moment that I was being accused once again of some hideous crimes by the very same people whose family committed them. It's kind of odd, you know, to have people whose ancestors actually perpetrated those allegedly ignominious actions, blaming you directly for them.
By the way, are you by any chance, a relative of those "brave" soldiers who "fought" and killed 10-year-olds in the Philippines?
RafaelMinuesa 1 year ago
@mangokiller111 You are an ignorant. Spain brought civilization and prosperity to America as the Romans did to Europe 2000 years ago.
pelotillo 1 year ago
@pelotillo yeah and doing do so killed most of the natives in these times there are more European decedents than the native american population
mangokiller111 1 year ago
@pelotillo HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....i love your comment....but hey...the native Americans had civilization and prosperity on their own BEFORE Christopher Columbus found it...Please review the world history and also take note on meaning of "civilization" and research on what do they really meant of the word "civilization" and how europe manipulated the use of this word to colonize other countries.
aprilshower7799 1 year ago
im a filipino and i love the americans! thank u!
Lugiarulz233 1 year ago
aguinaldo was a greedy man.... f*ck aguinaldo...
KheMJoH 1 year ago
You're right. He signed the Treaty of Biac Na Bató with the Spanish Crown but afterwards broke his given word by allying with the US Army.
pinquifrustri 1 year ago
and he was also behind the assassination of heneral Luna and Bonifacio... Luna was the most abled filipino general that time... i dont know why they still put aguinaldo in the list of filipino heroes
KheMJoH 1 year ago
America and the Philipines are allies.
CaptainWildFire 2 years ago 3
Amigo Fricobi, aquí llegan los refuerzos.
hadock2004 2 years ago
The narrator is the guy who played Commander Adama in Battlestar Galactica.
mabutoo 2 years ago
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philippines WON!filippinos are sooooo kind to americans since the americans helped the filippinos win the war!im a filippino so we won!woooooooo!!!
labsy09 2 years ago
actually I'am Filipino but I think we dont hate anyone..
xDaheartlessangelx 2 years ago 21
you will hate the americans if u read the history
Carlocute99 2 years ago
@xDaheartlessangelx yeh....they are still here fucking filipino women....they enjoy it a lot...LOL but true
aprilshower7799 1 year ago
America has no native group other then the native americans, all the rest are just decedents of immigrants...Americas are nothing more than euro mutts...that's why you are all so ugly...
thekingofmoney2000 2 years ago
arent u talking about yourself since your
from the United Kindom where Americans
descendad from?
JD55000 2 years ago
Remember the Maine and the beginning of the war,266 US soldier assassinates by USA.
Tamaran39 2 years ago 2
weren't they assassinated by Cuba?
Pathagarus 2 years ago
Anyone know where to find a full length documentary about the Spanish American War? Send me a msg please!
CrazyNick1369 2 years ago
There are at lest two. One is from Public Broadcasting System and another from The History Channel.
Tierraboricua
tierraboricua 2 years ago
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I'm Spanish, and in Spain this war is known as "The War with Cuba" not "Spanish/American" Americans put it to hide the fact that they simply stuck their noses in our business. Btw, i'm half American as well, so don't use the biased card.
aeroedge91 2 years ago
At the time of the war, USA had a lot of economical interests in Cuba. Most of the Cuban commerce was with USA rather than Spain. So really, USA did not stuck their noses in Spain business. The business were mostly American.
tierraboricua 2 years ago 3
Cuba was under Spanish Rule, hence anything USA did with Cuba they did with Spain, because before any independence took place "Cuba" was not an independent country.
evanluke 2 years ago
u guys are a bunch of pussies
defensorfortis2009 2 years ago
@tierraboricua Are you saying the USA has the right to wage war wherever they have commercial interests?
LSDNY 1 year ago
Another big problem was the poor acts of the press. The ship that blew up that led to the war was most likely blown up due to an accident. But the press claimed Spain attacked us and before the government could figure out what really happened the public was calling for war.
Also, this is the first time I've ever heard the term half-American....
TombaFanatic 2 years ago
Good point. As for the half-american. I was born in the US to Spanish parents have lived in both countries hold dual-citizenship/nationality. I don't know how else to put it?
aeroedge91 2 years ago
You were only granted US citizenship due to a fluke in our constitution. your parents are Spanish. As far as i am concerned, that portion of the constitution, known as birthright citizenship, should be revoked. nothing personal. It has led to a flood of illegals who stream over here to drop babies and gain a toe-hold. unless at least one parent is a citizen, I believe the children should not be grant it.
aardvark1956 2 years ago
well my father did already have american citizenship as well but yes I agree with what you're saying. In Spain, they do not allow citizenship just because you were born in the country, the blood has to run through your veins for you to have that right. This has helped the great illegal immigration problem they have over there and the US should most definatly establish it, imo.
aeroedge91 2 years ago
Does change things :) Appreciate civil debate, by the way...
aardvark1956 2 years ago
yes, unfortunately we see and less of it as of late ;)
aeroedge91 2 years ago
Ok lol Spain is a 1st world country, and its part of the Europeans Union and uses the Euro...which is worth more than the dollar by the way...Spaniards don't need to immigrate to the US or any other country, and when they do it's usually to another Europeans country, and it's not long term...Europeans don't need American for anything...we've got better healthcare and our currency is worth more...
thekingofmoney2000 2 years ago
LOL, Spain was one of the strongest colonial powers, Im part spanish by the way.
Pathagarus 2 years ago 4
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um..no it's the Spanish-American war. the war was faught in Cuba,Guam,Puerto Rico.
I'm Also Puerto Rican and happy the USA the Spanish treated the Puerto Ricans very badly
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
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hahaha spanish think they are so good americans kick their ass british kick their ass
mastercheff1216 2 years ago
Americans did horrible things to Filipinos in the philippine-American war.....Very sad....Being Jap/American, I I know we did bad stuff in WW2....but America is known for sticking their fat red white and blue cocks up every nations arsehole. Im ashamed to be born here, at least after 2 atom bombs Japan is doing fine, US has Economical problems, not to mention being hated by the rest of the world aside from N. Korea.
mango7272 2 years ago 2
Well guess what
Filipinos do not hate Americans
infact they love them...
we really hate u JAPS!
killing millions of innocent Filipinos in such brutality,beheading children,Baynoteng pregnant women and cuttign there throats and beheading priests,filpino-american soldiers.
Thats the worse sort of brutal atrocity ever since.
JD55000 2 years ago 6
americans too
Carlocute99 2 years ago
Ok, so let me understand this; you are giving the Americans a pass on their atrocities in the Phillipines and putting it to the Japanese--
RPenta 2 years ago
they didnt do any atrocities
please learn ur history
and never question about passing the japanese on their atrocities
JD55000 2 years ago
@RPenta the americans actually dident kill as many people in the philippines as the japanese did.
agricola 2 years ago
oh, now I understand; that makes everything ok for the Yanks.
RPenta 2 years ago
@JD55000 youre wrong asshole! i hate americans!
bugilator 1 year ago
@bugilator
actually im full filipino
JD55000 1 year ago
This goes to show that the land of the free and equality only works if your white. The yankee has never respected the filipino people and it's culture. They betrayed and denied the filipino people of their independance from spain and instead wage a war against my people boardering genocide. I use to be an admire of the american ideal.....but knowing now what they did to my people and my country shows they are no different from there european counterparts! MABUHAY PHILIPPINES!!
JCaguin 2 years ago 2
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im filipino we kicked spanish and american ass but im also american
Rocafile 2 years ago
Most people don't realize that the Philippines were about to gain independence from Spain with the First Philippine Republic (1899) with Aguinaldo as President. However, General Dewey and his forces betrayed Aguinaldo and occupied the islands by force. Dewey broke his promise of independence to the trusting Filipino gentlemen and behaved like a common liar and cheat, showing he knew nothing of honor and dignity.
This led to the Philippine-American War in which 1 million Filipinos perished.
TrueHonestHistory 2 years ago 5
Spain did not blow up the Maine in Cuba. It was the US that did it, to create an excuse to declare war on Spain, and take over its overseas territories: Cuba, Guam, Mariana Islands and the Philippines, of course.
TrueHonestHistory 2 years ago
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the spanish did next to nothing in the american revolution. all they did was to agree not to side with the british for the greater part of the war, when they did declare war on the british the war had already been pretty much decided in the american's favor.
spain, the sick man of western europe from the 1680's on, late to the party as usual.
bremenlegation 2 years ago
United States history textbooks seldom mention the important contributions by our "forgotten allies," Spain and Hispanic America, during the American Revolution. They also forget that they helped in the establishment and growth of the first democracy in the modern world.
ruvavi 2 years ago 5
The neglect in reporting Hispanic contributions extends to all periods of American history. Textbooks also fail to mention the role of 10,000 Hispanic soldiers who fought on both sides of the Civil War.
ruvavi 2 years ago 2
You're a perfect example of what the american education system wants people think. Actually I'm studying History in an austrian university, and I have learned how important were Spain and France in the American Revolution, because France sent an army from Europe and Spain did it too from their american colonies.
Fricobi 2 years ago
@Fricobi there where no actual spanish troops taking part in any battle of the revolutionary war. they did not fight side by side with us as the french did. all they did was harrass british shipping in the caribbean...sure they got an army together to invade jamaica, but they never actually did, and that was outside the scope of the war as it was waged on the north american continent anyways.
agricola 2 years ago
Thats not completly true.
If you have an invasion threat you have to reserve a larger garrison force, and those men could be used to better means on the american mainland.
paladinee 1 year ago
Even if there were no Spanish units fighting side by side with the Revolutionaires, Spanish Army fought the British in Pensacola and many other battles, as well as helping the Rebels with weapons, ammunition and money.
pinquifrustri 1 year ago 3
Wrong,
the Spanish were the biggest military allies of the rebels during the American Revolution.
Google Bernardo de Galvez
RafaelMinuesa 1 year ago 3
for all your bitching about "americans killed so and so and raped so and so" the philippines remain the most pro american country in asia by a wide margin. that probably wouldent be the case if we had treated the pinoys/pinays as badly as people in this thread infer.
bremenlegation 2 years ago
The Philippines is pro-American because the US administration in the Philippines fed young Filipinos a lot of American propaganda through the education system. History books were rewritten with myths like "Americans liberated the Philippines" and "America brought peace, democracy and education to the Philippines". Twisted history books also ignored the biggest genocide in the country's history: the Phil-American War, when more Filipinos died than in the entire 300-year Spanish colonial period.
TrueHonestHistory 2 years ago 24
@TrueHonestHistory very very true comment
aprilshower7799 1 year ago
@TrueHonestHistory
Americans came in the right timing for us Filipinos. The Spaniards dun treat us right. They can barely teach us Spanish because that language they said, is not for the "brown skinned people", meaning at that time, slaves, ignorant, "bobo" or brainless, and uncivilized. SO it's the Spaniards fault for not treating us WELL in the first place.
Shadelassy 1 year ago
@Shadelassy mexico, peru, bolivia, etc are full of brown skinned people. i disagree about the thought of them not wanting to teach us. if they did not teach us properly, there would have been a deeper reason than that
bugilator 1 year ago
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i must point out that the spanish started this war by blowing up the maine. we just finished it by amputating what was left of spain's latin american colonial empire.
bremenlegation 2 years ago
Man i think this war is largely forgotten
Benjaminb46 2 years ago 5
I couldnt agree with you anymore. Save the good and let the rest kill eachother. Thats what I try to do. Take care of your love ones and try to enjoy life. Just try, because like you said, theres nothing to do but accept the human way.
CVXQ 2 years ago
Yes, I very much agree. Thats why my girlfriend now is Chinese, race does not make a person, besides the 1 race is Human, we just tend to look and act a little different, but we are the same. No one in the world is right for causing pain to another. You are only right when you unite and bring together people for peace and fighting the real battles in this world such as disease, famine, criminals and other natural enemies.
CVXQ 2 years ago
España y Filipinas son como hermanos. somos orgullosos de nuestra herencia española. la cultura española es mayores partes de cultura filipina. los filipinos deben aprender hablar español otra vez tan bien como inglés.
Viva España!!!
Viva Filipinas!!!
tacotony24 2 years ago
Venga xa. vosotros no sois españoles, sois asiaticos. cada quien en su sitio copon.
leyesysalsa 2 years ago
sure senor thanks for the information
Filipinos are Asians no doubt about that. Their culture and history however are heavily influenced by Spain. And Spain was in the Philippines longer than many countries in Latin America.
Some Filipinos have Spanish/Hispanic blood although they are in the minority. There's nothing wrong with looking back into one's history and investigating one's culture. You need to travel and find out for yourself.....
campaigners 2 years ago
Listen, my point is that no matter how bad the US had been for your country,Spain is not any better. Many Filipinos think that the Spanish colony is way better than the american, and they feel proud of their spanish influence. but the cold and ugly thuth, is that a lot of spaniards(not all) dont give a shit about the Filipines, or any other ex colony. Just say "Viva Filipinas" and forget Spain. is sad to say, but in Spain, filipinos,cubans,colombians, are viewed as second class citizens.
leyesysalsa 2 years ago 3
that's your opinion
Also in your original post you pointed out that Filipinos are Asians not Spaniards. Most Filipinos are intelligent enough to realize that so you don't have to tell them about that.
Regarding Spain, there are good and bad in every country. My brothers have been to Spain and one of them stayed for more than a year and has never experienced being a "second class citizen."
I don't know about your experiences but I respect your opinion just as surely you respect mine.
campaigners 2 years ago 3
agree with you.
leyesysalsa 2 years ago
I'm spanish and I'm glad to feel some kind of connection, cultural or somehow, with filipinos, cubanos, argentinos, mejicanos... when I talk with them in the university =)
Fricobi 2 years ago 4
Sudacas jejeje
aeroedge91 2 years ago
I prefer "sudacas" in Spain to people like you...
Fricobi 2 years ago
if they're legal then yes, if not they're destroying Spain's roots and purity. And believe me when you're on the outside looking in you realize the mentality they have towards Spaniards. My best friend is mexican and I love him, in fact pretty much all my friends that are not from Spain are from South America. But the people that invade Spain ilegally to lay babies and that cause violence and then even rebel against true spaniards in my opinion deserve the term "Sudacas". Salu2 ;)
aeroedge91 2 years ago 2
¿Y qué inconveniente tiene el ser asiático? Un español es europeo, un chileno americano, un filipino asiático y un guineano africano; y no por ello va a dejar de hablar español alguno de ellos... Si un filipino quiere hablar español, ¿por qué no?
Fricobi 2 years ago
@Fricobi lo siento pero no habla español muy bueno. we use a lot spanish words in our dialects here, its just not being taught anymore. the president back in the 80s stopped it from being taught in school. spain tried to teach people spanish here, but then the yanks stopped it from being taught as well. some souther parts of the philippines habla chavacano. Chavacano es español mezclado con visaya.
bugilator 1 year ago
This was a prelude to the Vietnam and Korean War.
jaimesandoval1988 2 years ago
what were the spanish and the US doing in the Philippines? looking for terrorists? bringing freedom? bringing democracy? again? no, robbing land and rescources
lunafringe10 2 years ago 9
@lunafringe10 that's it! plain and simple..no need for much analysis or bullshit.. it has natural resources? its vulnerable to server and brutal innovation and conquest.
killerOfAmericans 2 months ago