Mapex Pro M Sound Check and Solos

[BobbyLikesDrums]

those are such small cymbals. what size is that ride!?

[touravanhable]

im getting this set used, with hardware, and sabian b8 pro sabians

[XDrUmErBoY512X]

how do you practice/ get to speed on that lick you did at :25 to :29

[TheLittleNoRMO]

I have the Mapex pro M classic plus and I love it! Big fat rock sound! Maple shells sing! and the 22 kick is got some super bottom end.

[markt360]

toms sound like coffee cans

[RJdrumguy]

Thats funny- 0:55-1:07 sounds like a peice from the new grade 8 trinity guildhall book!

[c3laya]

such great drums!!  such bad tuning

[TheSPARTANn]

Toms sound horrible...Tune!

[drumsticks135]

What do you have to say about the hhx stage ride? I'm thinking about getting it

[Tyler2908KU]

are you using a metronome app on your phone? if so is yours consistent. I had one for the droid 1st gen and it lagged a lot.

[LUCELAN]

retarded

[sketchbager]

deftones are great.

[butterknhf]

they sound awesome you use any muffling for the bass

[DrumCoalitionWithWar]

yeah man you need to tune the toms, they sound like shit

[dw9906]

I'm pretty impressed. Nice crack on the snare and pretty boomy kick. Bet those would sound phenomenol mic'd. And Deftones have gotta be my favorite band right now...you hear any of the new album?

[dragonman0000001]

DRUMMERS! I have a decision that I need help with. I have a choice between Sonor Force 3007's and Mapex Pro M's. Both are maple, the mapex costs a couple hundred more AND the Sonor comes with hardware. Which would be the better (and longer lasting) choice? Please respond, I really need help choosing.

[ironcobra8]

@dragonman0000001 Not sure if you know this, but Sonor's Force drums are built in the same factory as Mapex (known as KHS). They use a lot of the same manufacturing processes and tools, but yield more or less the same sound. (When comparing the 3007 to a Pro M). I'd say go for the Sonor, since some people argue the quality is a bit better, it comes with hardware, and it's cheaper.

[METALFREAK03]

@dragonman0000001 sonar is much better than mapex. better for travelling, movement, rythmetric and bounce. mapex is expensive and just makes you look good on presentation nothing more.

[readme60]

@dragonman0000001 sonor

[nazzare79]

@dragonman0000001 MAPEX SATURN is the right choice...

[SixStringBen]

That's a lovely kit :D

[mayoazzzza]

would you recommend sabian aax over zildjian a customs and z3 and paiste alphas

[Hammerfall2008]

not bad! :)

i like the sound of the crash on the left side ;)

[blanker666]

great tom tom sound - kick drum sounds nice too... i have the same drumkit... cheers from Poland !!!

[100DRUMMER001]

yeah man. too loose on them tom heads.. bass and snare sound fine Love the sound of that A custom of course. play with a little more conviction overall. good to make it a habit even if your not with a buncha loud band mates--no more feather playing!

[ariesram74]

get one of those handy stereo recorders by roland or zoom.

[obaterista4]

Haha of course this video was made to display your playing! How can I tell? You do the same fills that every other drummer tries to do, and that simply bore everyone, the hole shuffle beat and double bass drum licks with the toms. But don't worry, it's human nature that we try to show ourselves off a lot, in this case, in a poor way.

[blanker666]

this soound of mapex pro M - rules. NIce power...

[aditwi]

great job man good playing

[jackdrum9]

good.

[soulformusic4020]

that was ment for disgustopated, u dick

[soulformusic4020]

great job dude!!!

[disgustopated]

you suck, horribly.

spend all your time on singles hand/feet alternations, can't roll, dirty as fuck, can't tune for shit.

[ironcobra8]

this video wasn't made to display my playing, it is a demo of how the Pro M sounds. I admit they sound nasty here, but I was using stock heads and a shitty camera microphone. Chill out bro... why don't you post a video if you can do better?

[disgustopated]

so youre trying to convince me that since you were using stock heads you don't play like that? good joke.

you still suck.

i don't have a camera.

[TheFaction77]

stfu dude this guy is a great drummer

No videos, no comments

[soulformusic4020]

@disgustopated hes not that bad ibe seen worse. allot worse. hell hes actually trying, how can you diss on that

[soulformusic4020]

ur a dick

[disgustopated]

very much so, but i don't just come on here to tell people they suck. if they're good, ill give them alllll props for it.

you are not one of those people, you go in "sucks real bad" bin.

[wendrummer]

what sound where you checking 4?

[tutuyin]

hey! i know you!! you're my neighbour! keep it quiet man!

[mcufre]

the emad sounds great but those stock heads sound totally like stock heads arghhh get some g2´s or ec2´s and u´ll be good.

[disgustopated]

he wont be good, his toms will just sound better

[Pandanobear]

*crying* the ice bell makes me wnna cry more because of its beauty :'(

[SpaceCowboy617]

Not too loud u have neibours!

[jennafan14]

dudeeee your kick is amazing

[McSweet22]

Wife put you in the garage? Lol.

[kylewod]

What Crash symbal do you have above the hi-hat?

[njnetsfan524]

how do you like your aax dark crash?

[porksodalight5000]

you're playing Deftones- Rx queen at 0:48 right?

[ironcobra8]

yes sir...one of my favorite grooves. Deftones for life!

[imabitch4u]

hey dude! im looking for a new drum set.. and i found this kit .. please tell me.. is this a good kit for the price? thankx alot :) i will apreciate your opinion

[DazzleStar94]

Nice kit. I was just wondering what the size of the Ice Bell is, it sounds sweet!

[ironcobra8]

You know, I don't know the exact size. Right now it is packed away. But LP only offered Ice Bells in two sizes. It is the smaller one. 6 or 6.5 maybe. Glad you like it. Did you see my video of the bell I made from the cracked cymbal?

[DazzleStar94]

I haven't actually, but I will be sure to have a look! =)

[brinleyhall]

i thought they got discontinued and replace by meridian?

[azzel7]

yea!!!

i just got a pro m kit in bermuda sparkle!

i only got a 4pc though...with an 18inch kick drum

These kits friggin ROCK!

[TheDukesofRB]

Buy new heads for that :D

And the snare sounds really bad in my opinion

[ironcobra8]

yeah i know the stock heads suck. But I sold this kit a while back. I never got a chance to re-head it. Oh well. As far as the snare, everybody has their own tastes. Most people crank the hell out of their snares. I liked having this one tuned down a little. It had great sensitivity and that's what I was trying to display in this video.

[Triviumisi]

if i got ur money^^

[wilsononthedrums]

please learn to tune before you represent a pro m... i've been a proud owner for 7 years now and am quite ashamed

[haydondres]

read the description.

[ironcobra8]

thank you

[frietjericcardo]

you should tune your toms better..

[flaze15]

i like that metronome you have, that's actually smart hahaha i like your kit, but i like pearl more, just because this kit sounds like a studio kit, and it's not really loud!

[CRE8IVEST1S]

Im getting a mapex pro M kit soon =) And the bass drum WITH stock heads is actually extremely loud hahaha. Can't wait to get the kit though!!!!

[218drum]

rx queen!!! yes! ultimate sound check for drums.

[thatwaspoor]

evans e rings are good i got them on my kit :)

[2468DDT]

Tune those bad boys!

[ItsShredTime]

What was the depth of the bass drum? Cause I'm looking to get a Pro M classic four piece. The one I'm looking at is I think 22" wide and 20" deep. I love a long, booming bass drum. And those stock heads sound better than I expected. Except the snare..

[ironcobra8]

The bass is indeed 22" wide and 20" deep, but the extra depth really doesn't show once you muffle it (which most people, myself included, prefer) I've played bass drum that are only 14" deep that will shake the walls.

[ItsShredTime]

Well, I usually just use a Remo Muff'l ring that you put under the head on the bearing edge.. I've noticed a big difference in the longer bass drums, but the only ones I played weren't muffled, so I'm sure you're right. But I also love the look of the long bass drum.

[AkiThePirate]

If you like a booming bass drum I'd suggest looking into some 24" models. I'm playing a Kirchhoff 24" x 20" acrylic one, and I love it. Lots of attack, and plenty of sustain if you want it. If not, a t shirt on each head fixes it.

[billyunder1]

sound great play for us

[AdamScadAdam]

erm... are they stock heads? they sound really papery.

You may want to change the snares aswell, I upgeraded to puresounds.... they sound great and are really adaptable for different styles.

[ironcobra8]

yes they are stock heads. I didn't keep this kit for very long so I never got a chance to swap the heads out.

I am going to do the puresounds though, as soon as I get the cash/time.

[Str8Faced]

I have a pro-m kit and I'm using aquarian preformance 2 heads and I cannot get a good floor tom sound. I love too many overtones, even with the built in dampener on the head.

[JerichoFrost]

What size is you floor tom? I use Performance II's on my 16 and it sounds GREAT even with a stock reso head, but I will admit my 18 can sound shaky at times. Try putting a dapender ring on top of the head, like remo rings... aquarian offers rings too, I use those on all my toms.

[lettocarletto]

The sounds are good, but is better to stop them with the remo rings...there are too armonics in my opinion...

[ironcobra8]

Thanks. The Pro M shell pack was only $780 for all the drums you see. The cymbals and hardware are from previous kits and have been acquired over the years. I guess the total for everything to see here is around $2700.

[ShaxDr87]

Do you like this kit?

[ironcobra8]

I do. This kit was an experiment for me. I had never owned/played a Mapex kit before this. Also the sizes were new to me, I had never played a 20x22 kick or 16x18 floor tom. The quality of the Pro M kits was top-notch. Great maple shells. I loved the finish. It came with a bonus Black Panther snare drum. The only thing I didn't like was the factory heads, but that is the case with a lot of kits in the intermediate price range.

[Alcaron777]

How many kits you have? O.o

[ironcobra8]

as of right now....I have zero kits. All I own are snares, cymbals, and hardware at this point.

[nightfoxteam]

do the aax celerators hats sound better in real life?

[ironcobra8]

the aax celerators sound pretty accurate on the video, but of course being right next the them behind the kit, they sound very lively.

[notespell]

nice kit man

[JackDanielsCOB]

I think your using double pedals?

their fun,but fuck too many drummers use them now and think thats all you need to be a good drummer

im not saying your one of them though,your better than me,ive ben drumming for like,2 years,havnt had a drumkit in one year though,in a band now

if you read this,send me some tabs for some of those beats you were doing,havnt learnt anything like that

[duffman13045]

i love the sound of that black panther

[matahimdef]

0:49 to 1:10 that was a Deftones song wasn't it???...RX queen i think

[fweyd]

can you explain what you were doing in 1:35 area? With the kick going off beat with the snare? sounds like a good exercise.

[ironcobra8]

basically I'm playing a repeating 5 note phrase. Flam, kick, right, left, kick. When I take it over to the toms I (tired to) invert some of the accents, then I switched to a triplet pattern of right, left, kick.

[TimeWillKill]

48 seconds from yesterday by 30 seconds to mars

[ironcobra8]

I'm actually playing Rx Queen by the Deftones. The drummer from 30 seconds to mars must have "lifted" the drum beat to use in their song.

[ironcobra8]

i gotcha...it's just a normal 2 up 2 down setup, but the camera angle fucks it up.

[ironcobra8]

Actually I switch between Iron Cobras and Pearl Eliminators, depending on my mood.

What is so goofy about my setup?

[pulse06]

Are the AAX celerators in brilliant finish? or traditional. I wanna get them in brilliant but any thoughts on the traditional?

[ironcobra8]

traditional finish. I haven't seen them offered in brilliant finish, but then again they might be a special order item. I love mine, but I would like a set of Zildjian A Custom Mastersounds too...

[drummerboy768]

man they GRROOWWL!! im liking it!!!

[Ryl629]

Great! sounds pretty beast for an intermediate kit with stock heads wow :)

[dannyboy000]

Nice playing man, are you using the mic on your camera? or do you have some offscreen overheads or something?

This is yeeboy000 from the pdf.

[ironcobra8]

hey thanks. This is just with the camera microphone but I'm playing in the garage so it helps with the acoustics.

[Ramen1020]

ha, you guys are on the PDF?

i keep tryin to register but it wont work

[ironcobra8]

yeah my PDF screen name is Genuis Switch

[andrietube]

Is this Maple or Birch ?

[ironcobra8]

Pro M is all maple. The birch series was called M Birch. Now Mapex offers the Meridian Series in both maple and birch.

[Masakerr]

I agree you aren't having fun, maybe it's cause you have to keep count with your snare, instead of enhancing with your snare. Sounds very generic. and human.

[ironcobra8]

...and your playing sounds very horrible. and retarded. Maybe if I turned my cymbals upside down I could be as good as you.

[zildjian5o5]

i agree 100% that guy sucked! why he has put them videos on youtube i don't know. you'de own him anyway lol

[DoodleDandy921]

I agree

[blinderchains]

amsaker you suck xDD

[Ramen1020]

dude, masakerr, shut up

[ironcobra8]

LOL yeah i'm too human for masakerr....

[Spazzatroid]

Wow ur a great drummer, but man u don't look like ur having much fun. The whole point of the drums was to have an awesome beat and have the most fun while making it. ROCK ON MAN!!!!!

[TubasherTim]

how much is the Stage bell??

[ironcobra8]

If you mean the Ice Bell mounted ontop of the ride...it was free to me. I think they sell for around $40 normally. If you are talking about the HHX Stage Ride it was about $180.

[mikeandadria]

Nice grooves. Thanks for responding back. I will be picking up those hats. Love them. Mike

[NERDZKANDY]

hey man can you do a video of your hi hats, just a video of you just grooving with your hi hats?

[NERDZKANDY]

you kinda look like vin diesal on the side

[pulse06]

How are the Celerators? I'm stuck between them and the A Custom Mastersounds! Could you make a vid of the celerators?

[ironcobra8]

I like them since they are dark and focused. The A Custom Mastersounds are brighter, smoother but still focused.

I actually plan to do videos for all my cymbals because I get so many questions. Stay Tuned.

[dannyboi9891]

heard a bit of deftones at 0:49

[ironcobra8]

yeah but don't tell Warner Bros. about that :P

[dannyboi9891]

hahahahahahahahaha good call

[777EZekiel]

You will so heart your ears .. please get earphones .. it hurts just watching you :S .. very tasty sounding kit btw!!!

[Wawasaki]

hey man you should try using studio rings in your toms and snare, they really helpful, specially when recording a video like this

[ironcobra8]

I have never liked "studio rings". The farthest I will go is some moongel. Studio Rings take away far too much tone and liveliness. Thanks for the tip though.

[maryted]

How versatile is their tuning range? I like the way your drums sound but can they sound as good higher or lower?

[ironcobra8]

these are big sizes so the natural tuning range is lower than most standard size drum sets, this is about as low as I would go with them. But I did crank the reso heads up a notch or two with pleasing results. I should say I prefer an open, boomy sound rather than a tighter sound with less sustain, but you can tune that way if you choose.

[maryted]

I am getting a set of these in a 10,12,14floor,16 floor combo and switch between a low rumble tuning for rock and then work up to a swing/bonham style tuning which is higher. I read this evening a review of the Meridian series which is replacing the Pro-m in Modern Drummer and they said it favored only one style of tuning. The guy didn't change the heads to really put the drums through the paces.

[istmap]

Reaaaally nice kit and cymbal set up, nice chops and - I cannot emphasize enough - what a fine natural sound!!! Greetings!

[UTTERKAOS1994]

do you like your hi hats I'm thinking of buying some and I play in a church band so will they be too quiet, too loud, and what type of music do you find them most useful for?

[ironcobra8]

I do like them. They aren't a bad cymbal at all and they were a HUGE upgrade from my old B8 Pros. They are darker sounding, They aren't the loundest I've played but they work well in any style.

[UTTERKAOS1994]

thanks

[NERDZKANDY]

Chad smith uses those hi hats, and he plays hard rock/funk

[craggmire]

im seriously considering a mapex m-birch kit, would you put the extra money and get one of these, a pro m or stick with the m birch?

[ironcobra8]

I've tried both side by side and the Pro M had more of what I wanted in a drum. That being said the M-birch is a great sounding kit too with excellent finish. But the deal I got was so crazy I simply couldn't pass the Pro M up.

Be aware. Both the M-Birch and Pro M are discontinued as of this year. Now Mapex has the Meridian series. This time the Meridian birch has the same hoops as the Meridian Maple which plays a big part in the sound. Plus new finishes.

[kortedfranela]

what hi-hat do you have?

[ironcobra8]

the hi-hat is a 14" Sabian AAX-celerator. Complete setup details of all the cymbals and drums are in the description.

[kortedfranela]

are the aax.celerator worth it?

[ironcobra8]

depends on what you sound you like. These are geared more towards louder rock/funk styles. Being a pro level series, they are definetly worth it. Sabian tends to be the cheaper of the big three.

[kortedfranela]

i've read comments about the aax-celerator saying that it sounds bad when its closed.

is this true?

[ironcobra8]

listen for yourself....don't pay attention to what other dudess say.

[patricebrisebois19]

Lol cool metronome style...tucked in the hat

Nice kit and great playing, just lose the double kick :P

[drummerliger678]

yo for the snare (not the panther) was that the 7"by14" snare and the mapex pro m classic, cause when i look on google for the mapex pro m classic it shows a 4-piece, i was just wondering if you added another rack tom? don't mean to sound stupid, i am just really curious and that snare sounds amazing!

[ironcobra8]

Thanks. You don't sound stupid that's why I'm here is for others to see and hear what I'm using and ask about it. The kit is called the Pro M Classic Plus configuration. It includes 12 and 13 inch rack toms, 16 and 18 inch floor toms, the 20x22 virgin kick, and a 7x14 snare. Plus the Panther.

Starting this year the Pro M series is discontinued and replaced by the Meridian Maple which has the same shells but with new lugs and ITS mounts.

[drummerliger678]

ok, thanks, i am trying to find a drumkit with one rack tom, 2 floor toms, a nice deep snare and a short bass, do you know of any brands that have that presently?

[ironcobra8]

ddrum offers the 1 up 2 down and deep snare but with a 20x22 kick. You can get the 1 up 2 down from anybody really...you'll probaby have to get a deeper snare down the road.

[drummerliger678]

ok thanks for the info man!...

[ManicStreetPeaches]

Oo nice :) Did i hear a bit of From Yesterday in there?

[ironcobra8]

thanks...it's actually a deftones song called Rx Queen. The drum beat to From Yesterday is nearly identical....maybe their drummer ripped it off of Abe.

[Benjomatic]

Was that a bit of Deftones i heard in there?

[ironcobra8]

'twas

deftones 4 life

[F1CO]

tune up your toms mate, anyway, nice drumming!

[ironcobra8]

Thanks...I actually sold that kit about a month back. But you're right the toms needed new heads. I wasn't use the big sizes on this kit but oh well. Hey I checked your videos...Placebo is the shizzz. And I saw you favorited a Jay Dickson video...he is nuts. I wish he still had his older videos on youtube. Peace and Merry Christmas.

[F1CO]

Oh you've sold them? how come?

And yeah, by your nick i can tell your an iron cobra fan, they are no longer being produced from 1.1. .. atleast i heard that

p.s. all the best you too man!

[ironcobra8]

Yeah I needed some fast cash and this kit had to go. I kept the black panther snare though. I can't believe Tama isn't going to make them anymore...they must have something rediculously good to go in its place.

[daveysindaclub]

You mean Mapex.

[clitlicjon]

nice kit...u should get some studio ring's, they just sit on the toms and snare and take away the vibration and eco... i recomend them!

[ironcobra8]

Thanks but no thanks. I never did like to use the sound rings because they take away tooooo much echo and vibration. They make the kit sound cheap. However I do use Moongel to get some of those overtones under control...just not in thise video.

[RegisseurFilm]

cést genial :]

nice drumset

[BoomTaBoom4drums]

nice

[DrummerMatt93]

nice vid man. do u like your 14" x celerator hi hat because im looking into getting one but i have not tried one out at a local store. any feedback?

[craycpanda]

I love the crack of the snare! :) Great sounding kit.

[drumsticks135]

what exactly are you playing starting at 0:49 ?

[ironcobra8]

It's a linear beat taken from the Deftones song called "RX Queen." It also closely resembles the drums to "From Yesterday" by 30 Seconds to Mars.

[religiousMurder]

hey man whats up are those the pro birch or the maple...they sound "huge"

[ironcobra8]

thanks....The Pro M is maple.

[EMBERSxLEFTxBURNING]

i dont know why but i liked the sound of your old kit better

[ironcobra8]

me too :) I would never expect them to sound as good as a Masters....also the Pro M sizes were too big for my style. Both are great kits though.

[EMBERSxLEFTxBURNING]

why did you get mapex then? not to say that mapex is bad in any way

[ironcobra8]

I wanted something different...plus I got them for more than 50% off.

[phxdrummer16]

How?