How many fat people eat meat... how many fat people don't eat meat. Work that maths out. Second: How many people get cancer who are vegan who don't smoke or live in a high radiation or chemical environment? and how many get cancer who eat meat who don't smoke or live in a high radiation or chemical environment? lot more then the average of vegans to meat eaters.
@TheaDragonSpirit Nice try. I was a fat vegetarian and have met many ex-vegetarians who gained weight on a meatless diet. As for how many vegans get cancer ... let's see .. Do Linda McCartney and Steve Jobs sound familiar? The fact that vegans have a lower overall cancer rate is due to the fact that vegans are also less likely to smoke or consume sodas and other junk. The fat people who eat meat also eat sugar and flour.
@TheaDragonSpirit I have. I've also met vegans with bone loss in the jaw or spine (requiring surgery in one case), frequent infections, and chronic depression.
@FatHeadMovie - That is true I agree that process foods do create a lot of problems. It is a big problem. But if you cook meat... then isn't it processed. Ha.
I don't know where or what substances that they was eating... there is a lot of other things that cause cancer. Not just meat, but add up all the little bits you can remove the cancer causing problems. A lot of oils... and fiber less food causes problems in people as well.
@TheaDragonSpirit Meat doesn't cause cancer. I've looked at the data, and it's wildly inconsistent. In some studies, meat-eaters had lower rates of cancer and the more meat they ate, the LOWER the cancer rate.
The idea that fiber prevents cancer has been thoroughly disproved in clinical research.
@tanit This year's (in May) is the best lineup yet ... Chris Masterjohn, Dr. William ("wheat belly") Davis, Dr. Eric Westman, many more. Google 'low carb cruise' and you'll get the the right page.
@FatHeadMovie Tom: thanks for your movie and efforts in promoting reasonable nutrition. How much does the cruise cost? It says in the FAQ to check out a certain page, which does not list the price. I'm sure I could not go, just finished grad school and i'm poor - but am curious. Keep fighting the good fight. Recently discovered your blog and subscribed.
I watched the film last night, excellent stuff. I never realised the lipid hypothesis was build upon such shoddy analysis :- / this all reminds me of the man made global warming scare, most people just take for granted that it's all true, "everyone knows fat makes you fat".
P.S Anyone ever told you you sound like Troy McCLure from the simpsons ? :- D I keep waiting for you to say "hi my names Tom Naughton..... you might know me from such lectures as".
@carultch Dr. Fox works with patients to fix their health issues through diet whenever possible. If his goal was to sell them drugs, he wouldn't do that. Unfortunately, diet won't replace the estrogen women stop making after menopause.
I loved this presentation! He makes a strong point for reading the actual studies and drawing your own conclusions, instead of depending on reporters to summarize studies with catchy titles.
I loved this presentation! He makes a strong point for reading the actual studies and drawing your own conclusions, instead of depending on reporters to summarize studies with catchy titles.
I loved this presentation! He makes a strong point for reading the actual studies and drawing your own conclusions, instead of depending on reporters to summarize studies with catchy titles.
U know Tom at the weekend i've been "told off" by a cashier at the supermaket for buying beef dripping(he didnt know what is was even!!) and he added ghee and dripping give u heart disease.. lol!! couldnt hold back and told him to home and do his own research and not belive goverment agencies.. he was speachless!!
I absolutely love love love this video and this guy. I think it's one of the most important videos on YouTube. I have a few little problems though.
Some of the people he pokes fun at have done tons of clinical experiments, like Dr. Ornish, for example. Another thing is that the politics of science and research and approval is awful for finding things that do actually work. Things that are breakthroughs can be hidden for decades because it costs too much to test them, or because scientists lie.
@haterdrinkinhaterade I didn't mention Ornish in the speech, although I do have a problem with how he conducts research. He has people give up smoking, start exercising, undergo stress management, stop consuming refined carbohydrates, stop eating meat. Then when their hearts become healthier, he concludes that this proves meat causes heart disease. Tons of research or not, that's not a legitimate conclusion from an experiment that involved multiple variables.
@MrKMPT Well, Mr Personality aside, I have seen and heard Dr OZ give bad/false information on health, so his liking or disliking a video is a moot point
@MissXMarlboro It's an annual thing. Next year's speakers include Chris Masterjohn, Gary Taubes, Eric Westman and Denise Minger. Google 'low carb cruise' and you'll find the official website.
@saxelisax Wiki: Popular levels of significance are 10% (0.1), 5% (0.05), 1% (0.01) and 0.1% (0.001). Such results are informally referred to as 'statistically significant'. For example, if someone argues that "there's only one chance in a thousand this could have happened by coincidence," a 0.001 level of statistical significance is being implied ... for many applications, a level of 5% is chosen, for no better reason than that it is conventional.
@saxelisax Online dictionary: Set of data large enough to represent the phenomenon or population being studied. By convention, a finding is called statistically significant if the probability of its occurrence purely by chance is less than 1 in 20 (five percent).
@DonCaxiJuanAlejandro Wrong. We understand the mechanism. Do some Googling about the greenhouse effect, and try to be unbiased while you're researching (even though I'm sure you know that's impossible). Good luck.
I am so sad that I just now found out about you and the Fat head movie. Pre-baby I never paid attention to any diet since I didn't need to lose weight. After about a year my baby was born I only needed to lose the last 10 lbs. Unfortunately that was when I started "watching" what I ate based on "studies" well meaning friends and families have been "informing" me about... the end result? I gained 12 lbs in 3 months!! I'm forcing family members and friends to come over tonight so we can all watch.
@FatHeadMovie i realize that fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds contain fiber. the problem is as someone who has had to eat up to 6500 calories a day just to maintain bw, how do you keep your fiber in ratio? at 2000 calories a day you need 35 grams, at 6500 you need over 120 grams. it is a lot easier to throw another steak on the grill than it is to carry a bushel of apples to school/work with you. really what i meant was, how did you get enough fiber during the movie fat head? eating just fastfood
@memthrows I don't believe we need a lot of fiber. If it's to keep the digestion working, I find eating enough fat does the trick. If it's to avoid colon cancer, the research shows that eating fiber makes little difference.
@memthrows The cure for irregularity back in the day was oil, not fiber. If you're eating enough greens and vegetables, not over-doing it on cheeses, getting enough fat in your diet, that should do it. If not, some combination of psyllium husk tablets, more water, more salt, magnesium supplements, MCT oil, or probiotics should do the trick.
the actual video was wonderful, the part at the end with estrogen was a little more questionable. would a reproductive endocrinologist ever suggest to not take hormones?
@nmope Dr. Fox goes against convention wisdom in a number of areas, including diet, knowing full well (as he mentioned in his speech) that doctors who go against convention wisdom are risking lawsuits if a patient dies. So if he recommends hormones, it's certainly not simply because that's the usual protocol.
@FatHeadMovie@FatHeadMovie yes, post menopausal hormones other than for atrophic vaginitis goes against many well done studies. i know you are not dr. fox, i'm just curious as to studies that dr. fox refers to with topical estrogen. just thinking critically :D
Just so I understand, any kind of carb (be it whole grain, white flour, sugar, etc.) taken in large amounts (i.e. 80% of daily intake) for long periods of time (like a few months) is bad for the body.
White flour (in bread, pastas, etc) has lost 97% of the original dietary fiber. It is bleached, preserved & aged with chlorine dioxide. It is further whitened by adding chalk, alum & ammonium carbonate to improve look & texture. An anti-salting agent called sorbitan mono-saturate is added in the final stage. It's a filler and has very little nutritional value, but tons of carbs.
@GrowTheTruth there is no healthy bread. they all contain anti-nutrients which block the absorption of the folate and what-not contained in whole wheat. eating it is pointless.
Tom, yours was one of my favourite presentations. I really enjoyed meeting and hanging out with you and Chareva a bit. Thanks for being you and continuing to enlighten people on health and science for smart people :) Your friend, Laurie :)
How many fat people eat meat... how many fat people don't eat meat. Work that maths out. Second: How many people get cancer who are vegan who don't smoke or live in a high radiation or chemical environment? and how many get cancer who eat meat who don't smoke or live in a high radiation or chemical environment? lot more then the average of vegans to meat eaters.
TheaDragonSpirit 14 hours ago
@TheaDragonSpirit Nice try. I was a fat vegetarian and have met many ex-vegetarians who gained weight on a meatless diet. As for how many vegans get cancer ... let's see .. Do Linda McCartney and Steve Jobs sound familiar? The fact that vegans have a lower overall cancer rate is due to the fact that vegans are also less likely to smoke or consume sodas and other junk. The fat people who eat meat also eat sugar and flour.
FatHeadMovie 14 hours ago
@FatHeadMovie - Never meet a fat vegan who was vegan at least a year. :-)
TheaDragonSpirit 13 hours ago
@TheaDragonSpirit I have. I've also met vegans with bone loss in the jaw or spine (requiring surgery in one case), frequent infections, and chronic depression.
FatHeadMovie 54 minutes ago
@FatHeadMovie - That is true I agree that process foods do create a lot of problems. It is a big problem. But if you cook meat... then isn't it processed. Ha.
I don't know where or what substances that they was eating... there is a lot of other things that cause cancer. Not just meat, but add up all the little bits you can remove the cancer causing problems. A lot of oils... and fiber less food causes problems in people as well.
TheaDragonSpirit 13 hours ago
@TheaDragonSpirit Meat doesn't cause cancer. I've looked at the data, and it's wildly inconsistent. In some studies, meat-eaters had lower rates of cancer and the more meat they ate, the LOWER the cancer rate.
The idea that fiber prevents cancer has been thoroughly disproved in clinical research.
FatHeadMovie 52 minutes ago
How does one go on this so-called "low carb cruise" - sounds epic.
tanit 1 week ago
@tanit This year's (in May) is the best lineup yet ... Chris Masterjohn, Dr. William ("wheat belly") Davis, Dr. Eric Westman, many more. Google 'low carb cruise' and you'll get the the right page.
FatHeadMovie 1 week ago
@FatHeadMovie Tom: thanks for your movie and efforts in promoting reasonable nutrition. How much does the cruise cost? It says in the FAQ to check out a certain page, which does not list the price. I'm sure I could not go, just finished grad school and i'm poor - but am curious. Keep fighting the good fight. Recently discovered your blog and subscribed.
tanit 6 days ago
@tanit I'm not sure ... somewhere in the area of $1,000 per person, I believe.
FatHeadMovie 6 days ago
AWESOME...!!
stinky125 1 week ago in playlist MP3 Stuff
Enlightening. And funny!
davebenz 1 month ago
Great video, there's hope for this world :)
wigglezwow 2 months ago
Tom you are a legend, totally pointed us all in the right direction!
MrTristam 2 months ago
I watched the film last night, excellent stuff. I never realised the lipid hypothesis was build upon such shoddy analysis :- / this all reminds me of the man made global warming scare, most people just take for granted that it's all true, "everyone knows fat makes you fat".
P.S Anyone ever told you you sound like Troy McCLure from the simpsons ? :- D I keep waiting for you to say "hi my names Tom Naughton..... you might know me from such lectures as".
HuxleyWasRight 3 months ago 3
Tom....I am new to eating this way....I just freak out ill have medical complications...can you clear that up?
btownshreds1 3 months ago
@jisakuj your an idiot.
btownshreds1 3 months ago
How do I know that that guy at the end of the movie isn't just trying to pad his pockets with profits from estrogen drug sales?
carultch 4 months ago
@carultch Dr. Fox works with patients to fix their health issues through diet whenever possible. If his goal was to sell them drugs, he wouldn't do that. Unfortunately, diet won't replace the estrogen women stop making after menopause.
FatHeadMovie 4 months ago
im 14....my dad showed me this because he thought i would appreciate it. Not all teenagers are teen barbie
ficusali 4 months ago
I loved this presentation! He makes a strong point for reading the actual studies and drawing your own conclusions, instead of depending on reporters to summarize studies with catchy titles.
drt3d3d 4 months ago 3
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I loved this presentation! He makes a strong point for reading the actual studies and drawing your own conclusions, instead of depending on reporters to summarize studies with catchy titles.
drt3d3d 4 months ago
I loved this presentation! He makes a strong point for reading the actual studies and drawing your own conclusions, instead of depending on reporters to summarize studies with catchy titles.
drt3d3d 4 months ago
good video... I'm sorry for my question but i'm not a native speaker and i did not understand.. it's better to take estrogen oral or not??
sisss7 4 months ago
@sisss7 Dr. Fox says the other forms of estrogen are better.
FatHeadMovie 4 months ago
@FatHeadMovie thank you..
sisss7 4 months ago
i watched this because justinbiebervevo lolz
KnewingFun 4 months ago
Great lecture Tom, this and Fathead the movie are a must see for everyone.
Davidh520 4 months ago
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You're going to die at the age of 30 from a heart attack.
JisakuJ 5 months ago
@JisakuJ That would be a quite a trick, considering that I'm 52 now.
FatHeadMovie 5 months ago 31
@FatHeadMovie and still lookin well! thought u were in your 40s! haha high 5 from dublin ireland!
thickpooxbox360 2 months ago
@thickpooxbox360 Ha, thanks. Just turned 53 last week.
FatHeadMovie 2 months ago
Some scientists are nothing more than propaganda agents for the Government.
elbuggo 5 months ago
The audience seems to have eaten too many carbs...
jonesey5168 5 months ago
"Well we're not *cheering* for them to get cancer..." lol. Excellent vid, favorited.
bigglyguy 5 months ago
21:30
Entropy56 6 months ago
U know Tom at the weekend i've been "told off" by a cashier at the supermaket for buying beef dripping(he didnt know what is was even!!) and he added ghee and dripping give u heart disease.. lol!! couldnt hold back and told him to home and do his own research and not belive goverment agencies.. he was speachless!!
mokugin81 6 months ago
welldone Tom!! great video!!
mokugin81 6 months ago
Thank you for posting this video!
logarithmic7 7 months ago
man the audience is so fucking annoying in this video
zizou1311 8 months ago 2
I absolutely love love love this video and this guy. I think it's one of the most important videos on YouTube. I have a few little problems though.
Some of the people he pokes fun at have done tons of clinical experiments, like Dr. Ornish, for example. Another thing is that the politics of science and research and approval is awful for finding things that do actually work. Things that are breakthroughs can be hidden for decades because it costs too much to test them, or because scientists lie.
haterdrinkinhaterade 8 months ago 9
@haterdrinkinhaterade I didn't mention Ornish in the speech, although I do have a problem with how he conducts research. He has people give up smoking, start exercising, undergo stress management, stop consuming refined carbohydrates, stop eating meat. Then when their hearts become healthier, he concludes that this proves meat causes heart disease. Tons of research or not, that's not a legitimate conclusion from an experiment that involved multiple variables.
FatHeadMovie 8 months ago 9
Dr. Oz "Disliked" this video
MrKMPT 8 months ago 3
@MrKMPT Well, Mr Personality aside, I have seen and heard Dr OZ give bad/false information on health, so his liking or disliking a video is a moot point
onlinemediamarketing 6 months ago
There's a LOW CARB CRUISE?? I can't believe I never knew about this. It's like a dream come true. And I missed it :(
MissXMarlboro 8 months ago
@MissXMarlboro It's an annual thing. Next year's speakers include Chris Masterjohn, Gary Taubes, Eric Westman and Denise Minger. Google 'low carb cruise' and you'll find the official website.
FatHeadMovie 8 months ago 3
Woah, youtube f-ed me. Sorry for triple post
saxelisax 8 months ago
At 34 minutes into the presentation you start talking about significance of results.
">95% not due to chance"
Are you purposely misleading?
Google confidence interval and normal distribution.
saxelisax 8 months ago
@saxelisax Wiki: Popular levels of significance are 10% (0.1), 5% (0.05), 1% (0.01) and 0.1% (0.001). Such results are informally referred to as 'statistically significant'. For example, if someone argues that "there's only one chance in a thousand this could have happened by coincidence," a 0.001 level of statistical significance is being implied ... for many applications, a level of 5% is chosen, for no better reason than that it is conventional.
What am I missing here?
FatHeadMovie 8 months ago
@saxelisax Online dictionary: Set of data large enough to represent the phenomenon or population being studied. By convention, a finding is called statistically significant if the probability of its occurrence purely by chance is less than 1 in 20 (five percent).
FatHeadMovie 8 months ago
This is Thrand!!!
Awesome informative and most of all the pure truth as always :P
ThegnThrand 8 months ago
Great presentation! Fat Head was so informative. I tell everyone I can to check it out! Thanks.
ryannis111111 8 months ago
great presentation
but this phenomenon is not limited to nutrition science
The "correlation does not prove causation" thing is exactly what counts for the "CO2-warm-temperature" thing for instance
DonCaxiJuanAlejandro 8 months ago 2
@DonCaxiJuanAlejandro I'm afraid it's rampant in many sciences.
FatHeadMovie 8 months ago
@DonCaxiJuanAlejandro Wrong. We understand the mechanism. Do some Googling about the greenhouse effect, and try to be unbiased while you're researching (even though I'm sure you know that's impossible). Good luck.
MMAharaja 8 months ago
hooray for good science!
ORTprod 8 months ago
you have a blog
lemkelegion 9 months ago
@lemkelegion Yes, but I can't post a link here. It's Fathead-movie with the dot and com thing.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago
I am so sad that I just now found out about you and the Fat head movie. Pre-baby I never paid attention to any diet since I didn't need to lose weight. After about a year my baby was born I only needed to lose the last 10 lbs. Unfortunately that was when I started "watching" what I ate based on "studies" well meaning friends and families have been "informing" me about... the end result? I gained 12 lbs in 3 months!! I'm forcing family members and friends to come over tonight so we can all watch.
cutedevgirl 9 months ago
@cutedevgirl I feel ya. It's frustrating to gain weight while sticking to what you're told is a good diet.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago 2
I know this equation at 4:00.
bomberfun1 9 months ago
i get that the high glycemic carbs are bad for you. when you cut out grains and switch to more fat/protein, how do you get enough fiber in your diet?
memthrows 9 months ago
@memthrows Vegetables, whole fruits and nuts have fiber.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago
@FatHeadMovie i realize that fruits, veggies, nuts and seeds contain fiber. the problem is as someone who has had to eat up to 6500 calories a day just to maintain bw, how do you keep your fiber in ratio? at 2000 calories a day you need 35 grams, at 6500 you need over 120 grams. it is a lot easier to throw another steak on the grill than it is to carry a bushel of apples to school/work with you. really what i meant was, how did you get enough fiber during the movie fat head? eating just fastfood
memthrows 9 months ago
@memthrows I don't believe we need a lot of fiber. If it's to keep the digestion working, I find eating enough fat does the trick. If it's to avoid colon cancer, the research shows that eating fiber makes little difference.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago
@FatHeadMovie what about staying regular and not forcing elimination?
memthrows 9 months ago
@memthrows The cure for irregularity back in the day was oil, not fiber. If you're eating enough greens and vegetables, not over-doing it on cheeses, getting enough fat in your diet, that should do it. If not, some combination of psyllium husk tablets, more water, more salt, magnesium supplements, MCT oil, or probiotics should do the trick.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago
First time I've enjoyed a lecture
ducktape775 9 months ago
Great presentation. Tom makes learning about science fun! Now if the scientists would just listen to it :)
oz4caster 9 months ago
@oz4caster Thank you.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago
Thanks for putting up this presentation. I like how you've provided several new points which compliment your documentary.
By the way, you are pretty funny!
KanineKruizer 9 months ago
@KanineKruizer Thank you.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago
This guy is hysterical.
kimchidressagemama 9 months ago
the actual video was wonderful, the part at the end with estrogen was a little more questionable. would a reproductive endocrinologist ever suggest to not take hormones?
nmope 9 months ago
@nmope Dr. Fox goes against convention wisdom in a number of areas, including diet, knowing full well (as he mentioned in his speech) that doctors who go against convention wisdom are risking lawsuits if a patient dies. So if he recommends hormones, it's certainly not simply because that's the usual protocol.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago
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nmope 9 months ago
@FatHeadMovie @FatHeadMovie yes, post menopausal hormones other than for atrophic vaginitis goes against many well done studies. i know you are not dr. fox, i'm just curious as to studies that dr. fox refers to with topical estrogen. just thinking critically :D
nmope 9 months ago
Thank you for sharing this with us who did not go with the LC cruise! :) Sweden is too far away, haha....
ShadyMia 9 months ago
Fantastic dude :D
ayadew 9 months ago
Tom,
Your presentation was an awesome way to wake up that day.
Keep the comedy & science coming.
DeniseTra1 9 months ago
elli...the examples that you gave ARE bad, but not all carbs are bad.
Vegetables with low GI (broccoli, cauliflower, ect) have carbs and are very very good.
DeniseTra1 9 months ago
This is a great introduction.
fringeelements 9 months ago 10
Just so I understand, any kind of carb (be it whole grain, white flour, sugar, etc.) taken in large amounts (i.e. 80% of daily intake) for long periods of time (like a few months) is bad for the body.
ellifeedn 9 months ago
White flour (in bread, pastas, etc) has lost 97% of the original dietary fiber. It is bleached, preserved & aged with chlorine dioxide. It is further whitened by adding chalk, alum & ammonium carbonate to improve look & texture. An anti-salting agent called sorbitan mono-saturate is added in the final stage. It's a filler and has very little nutritional value, but tons of carbs.
Gross...
GrowTheTruth 9 months ago 16
@GrowTheTruth i eat lots of bread when I work out cause the carbs help XD
ANBUspecialBlackops 8 months ago
@ANBUspecialBlackops Carbs actually make you sleepy. You'd want to eat some protein to help you with exercise. That generates energy. :)
GrowTheTruth 8 months ago
@GrowTheTruth but its all converted to a simple sugar i dont want to bulk up, thats what protein does as well
ANBUspecialBlackops 8 months ago
@GrowTheTruth there is no healthy bread. they all contain anti-nutrients which block the absorption of the folate and what-not contained in whole wheat. eating it is pointless.
mazdaishpahan 2 months ago
Excellent!!! Thanks for posting this Tom!!!!
lcdrpeterson 9 months ago
Tom, yours was one of my favourite presentations. I really enjoyed meeting and hanging out with you and Chareva a bit. Thanks for being you and continuing to enlighten people on health and science for smart people :) Your friend, Laurie :)
skigirlred1 9 months ago
@skigirlred1 Thank you, Laurie. And I'm going to get you up on the karaoke stage next year.
FatHeadMovie 9 months ago
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GREAT! MUST BE SHARED
Meni69 9 months ago
thanks tom!
PhillyCards 9 months ago
Tom!!!! This was hilarious!!! Man, I HATE artery-clogging bananas!!
CharlieShaughnessy 9 months ago
Tom, awesome! Thanks for posting!
PWDPeeps 9 months ago
It was one of the highlights of the cruise! THANKS Tom!
livinlowcarbman 9 months ago
thanks tom for sharing this video with us! I love your fat head movie, so i'm happy to find this. Great video!!!!
carthagecomet88 9 months ago