WadoRyu Kata: Wanshu

[bushidobonce]

Its a good version which ever school you come from and yes this is Wado, from my years of Wado I know that there is a lot of leeway with how you perform Kata after Chinto. ... Lets face it for competition all Kata is made to look more dynamic, its the only way Wado stands a chance against other styles. I posed that question to the EKF Chief Kata ref and he is Wado but when he used to compete he did Shotokan Kata just so he stood a chance, its the way it is,

[PLAYER1NYC]

Shotokan empi

[billybobongames]

@eehFoerFan Karate is Japanese is it not?

[billybobongames]

His stance is really long he could get swiped easily :D

[AcornsAndAntlers]

@billybobongames not really.

his stance is comfortable for him.

[KATHANACHARYA2008]

Hey guys this is Defiantly wado i m a wado practitioner 3rd dan...there r 3 type of wadoryu available , WADO KAI , KYU KISHIN WADO AND WADO INTERNATIONAL KARATE FADRATION (WIKF) and this is WADO KAI....

[AnbusKitsune]

Might not be a perfect Kata, I'm not sure, since I'm not a Wado-Ryu stylist, but he has really good stances and intensity.

[Toudiyama]

this kata has been altered so it can score higher at WKF and jkf compettions, otherwise Wado people have no chance of winning, because the techniques are too subtle for most judges to understand

[jamesvdave]

@Toudiyama you are right here. there is a great difficultiy when it comes to open competitions with wado-ryu scoring high, and i know this from personal experience. so i find myself doing one way when competing with a kata, then another way when teaching it. i know it should not be done like this for my sensei has mentioned from time to time for it not to be altered for comps but to get the points i know i must. kind of a dilema relly. but this is still a great kata.

[lovesprofessorgreen]

thats not a wado ryu kata, deffoooo not! and its nice to see he finished all moves and stances, most people doing this or any other kata in fact at that speed tend to not complete the moves and stances and rush onto the next one

[jamesvdave]

@lovesprofessorgreen this is 100000000% wado ryu, it is the current kata i am learning for 3rd dan. and yes commenting on the kata i really liked seeing the jump and land to hold. alot of people i have seen perform this as soon as landing, in a bad stance i may add, quickly rush to the last block. so great to see it done so well.

[bobmooney]

Opening technique is incorrect...note the the chudan hikite on last move...also in the wrong position...appears to not understand Wado techniques.

[bobmooney]

Yes this Wado.

[splodgenessabounds]

looks more like shotokan enpi than wado wanshu

[Alcatrac]

It is Wanshu, however very competition-focused. You must also remember that there are different 'styles' within Wado, not just the single way you might practice. Some punch in the beginning, some block, some kick after the reverse punch, some just step forwards.

[manlykperry]

@Alcatrac shut up twat

[vW666r]

I'm not realy sure that this kata is the wado wanshu...I learnd the kata from Shingo Ogami sensei, an 8 dan graduated grandmaster from the wado karate Japan....and this is definitly not wado...

[kenzenjapan]

Yes, this is definitely Wado.

[vW666r]

Hey, he use moves which aren't important...and the wado philosophi is not to use any moves, which arent important...here there are a lot of them. the first move is not the correct move...in this video its a punch, but the move is to avoid the attack, and the arm is just here if you don't get away enough...

[manlykperry]

@kenzenjapan yea its wado but its not wanshu lol its empi

[AcornsAndAntlers]

@manlykperry no this is for sure wanshu.

both my 4th dan instructors do it all of the time

[godag45]

@kenzenjapan I do Wado Kai, it's almost the same, there are only some slight changes, but this is how i've learned the kata too.

[TheMonkRS]

@kenzenjapan It is Wado, but have some diferences, and some techniques are really not accurate...

[UltraRebels]

@vW666r Då har vi tränat i samma klubb :)

[memenome]

it's not a double punch, in the way i learn, i have been taught it's a grab not a punch, but each to their own

[lairdofgarscaddon]

moves really weird.

[kasakii]

Is it a double punch or grabbing with both hands open just prior jumping ?

[kasakii]

seems to maneuver the kata with tensed shoulders. Also switch of the legs in those mahanmi nekoashi stances takes place very slowly instead of fast as I have learned it

[vW666r]

Hm his good, but for my experience it looks more like shotokan wadoryu. For expl. His "Jooi" stand ist typical shotokan. I know that because i did it like him, then came Sensei Kohata and Oghami and told me that this isnt wadoryu. His stand is very low, like in shotokan, and some tehniques are very strange, not like i know them. His very good, but some of this points would, cost him the graduation, if he would do them in front of the big senseis.

[astralkarate]

if you noticed on his junzuki stances his back leg was never fully locked straight and he was slightly arched forward at times and he missed the KIA out just before the last move , very poor kata i have taught and seen 9 10 and 11 year old students perform better than that

[EatMyBible]

In my opinion, his pauses is slightly off, too. But if you've seen 9, 10 and 11 year old people do better than that, then they must be VERY talented for their age.

[colinkeating1]

I thought his performance of Chinto was far better.

[godspenguin]

Odd back stances at .45 & 1.19 (kokutso dachi ?) - cant be an error at this level of competition, but I dont quite understand the stance.

Perhaps somebody can enlighten 'cos Its not a stance I've ever seen done like this in European Wado karate (or Shotokan)?

Cheers!

[Agnostagan]

Might be so he's better balanced/looks more centred. Competition does wierd things to a kata, I find. Makes it different.

[kasakii]

you must refer to nekoashi stances ? right mahanmi nekoashi is "wide" cat stance and mashomen no nekoashi is short cat stance. Both are present in this kata.