IS EVOLUTION RIGHT OR WRONG? Let's see what the chromozones say......

[pbodymathis]

God said He made man in His own image. Does it mean that we look like Him or, we look like what He imagined? This is irrelevant however, the number of chromosomes is not. Man has one less cause two are combined into one. Does it make a difference? Now the question is how did they fuse and by what means. If I wanted to make a case for God the Creator, here it is! For evolution, I do not know. If this happened because of E, then there should be countless examples in other animals.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis first of all you need to prove that GOD SAID he made us in his image and not just BRONZE AGE man that wrote the ancient jewish texts you refer to.The Chromozones fuzed show that the ancestors we share with the current modern apes were apes and it is actual evidnce that we are evolved. There are many random mutations that occur but only the ones that allow the animal to survive survive with the animals genes, i.e they have children. That is evolution.

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 You will never see God nor accept any proof as I have given you before in our discussions. So, lets talk about the fused gene. If an ape has an offspring with this fused gene, then the baby must be human and not ape. For man to survive then many apes must have babies with the same fused gene so when they are mature, they can multiply and start the new species. Mathematical impossible is all I can say.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis God will judge me not you . So let's talk genetic mutatuion.Firstly man is an APE . Look it up. Yes if an ape had a fuzed chromozone it would be a man because the very function of those fuzed chromozones would be to create the changes within the GENETIC commands.i.e the building of the materials commanded by the gene. The ancestors of both curreent chimps and us shared the fuzed. oh why Am i bothering? Watch the video again or shut up. You're the one in denial.

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 Every person born will someday face the judgement seat of Christ! Our difference is not pertaining to the fused gene, it is what made it fuse. Random mutation you say and I say mathematical impossible. I say God and you say He does not exist. I say Creation you say evolution. The evidence you believe are all theories and inferences created by man just like the hypothesis in this video, "if there is a fused gene, then it must be proof of evolution!" I believe in a promise...

[pbodymathis]

@pbodymathis cont.... that Jesus Christ made to all who would follow Him and this is the promise, "who ever believes in Me and though he may die, will live again!" Deception is satan's biggest weapon to keep people from God, have you been deceived?

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis I think you are suggesting that evolution may be driven forward by a GOD LIKE WISDOM is that correct? However evolution is simply the survival of random mutations through the arms race that is the competative and gruesome nature of NATURE> i/.e you will be killed unless your mutated genes are ones that benefit you with attributes that aid survival. Look at the evolution of the sealion as an example 

[hairdie96]

links please

[hairdie96]

THIS VIDEO IS MISLEADING fact why doesnt it show at least 3 other animals chormosomes fact there are others also with very close matches

[callindisciple]

the bible is not a science book with everything god created lol end the bible has facts in it, the bible says he would turn rivers and lakes blood red and he has dry up lakes when he mad and they have been drying up can you explain that?And god gave noah rainbow after every time it would rain for a promise that he would never flood the earth again why is it that only after it rains do you ever see them can you explain that.And i experience jesus through out my day and when i pray.

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple What facts does the Bible have in it? Are you claiming that Rainbows obnly appear during rain and sun? erm i am begining to think you may be trolling me, surely you understand how a rainbow is created? You say yuo experience JESUS can you explain how you do? please

[callindisciple]

@thomasbryn1 well I have faith all of it is fact there people who have studied this for hundred of years and the best one i can give you is the holy ghost, in the book of acts it talks about how it fell on the people and that it is Gods gift and well it happends people get slain in the spirit drunk in the spirit you say its fake but its not, whats trolling? and how do you mean exprience?were you ever baptized in jesus name?and i dont know how a rainbow is created but god said it was his promise

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple Who are the people that have studied this for hundreds of years exactly? I was baptized and studied to be a minister. How are you certain that evolution is NOT TRUE

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple How are you sure God said a RAINBOW was his Promise

[hairdie96]

@callindisciple common ancestry or common designer all this prooves is common SOMETHING

[hairdie96]

@callindisciple EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT ALL THESE SCIENTIST ARE PAID TO FIND THE EVIDENCE HARDLY WHAT YOU WOULD CALL UNBIASED

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 That is an absurd claim and does not address the evidnce in any way. Your response needs to address the fuzed chromozones and how you explain them in any way other than evolution. BEsides , i would seuggest that the creationists make more money from their weak minded christian followers who simply send money in FAITH , without nay need for facts. I am happy to hear your explanation for why evolution isn't a fact, or your proof that God did it by magic.

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 lol all this prooves i

.evolution cant be proven wrong with chromosomes

or

god uses the same kinds of chromosomes that he uses for primates

and

this fused chromosomes is at makes us so special and better than apes

IT DOES NOT PROOVE EVOLUTION IS TRUE

did you notice that he did not say that it was interesting that this proves evolution right????

no he said it proves evolution cant be proven wrong with this

so are we any nearer an answer ?? no

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 secondly is does anyone else think its weird that he keeps claiming that all the chromosomes are primate chromosomes .. This arguement is flawed

those chromosomes can be found in many other animals so to suggest that they somehow BELONG to primates is BAD SCIENCE .

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 Oh one last thing this scientist is actually proud of the fact at how they can look at chromosomes ??

BIG DEAL

thats like say saying a person has a problem with is pc . i can look into a pc and say i know what all the parts are called and what they do . a friend asks can you build a pc .. make the parts ..errr no.can you even throw one together and make it work .no so why should i take your advice then .

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 In thispoint you have missed the purpose of the discovery. if you watch the video again it may explain it further for you. Look into LEAKEY's Hominid fossil record for the Caanine teeth fossil record. Evolution is a fact i'm afarid until you can offer an alternative with proof. At the moment you can walk into any museum or even a zoo and ask some more facts if it helps you. unless you live in the deep south of the states where FACTS are ignored

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 lol evidence proof they have none of that

the fossil record backs up creation and shows all life forms in the finnished states has they are now (apart from the dead one :P) when they try to link them with lines they are nothing short of fantasy

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 Give me an example please of where the fossil record BACKSUP ( ahem ) Creation

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 looking at chromosomes and perhaps knowing what they do does not inspire my confidence in is not so in depth knowledge

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1

oh and it proves that evolutionist scientist take something thats within 15 bases (thats close i admit) and take it has cast iron proof (thats not science thats desperation to find proof)

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 I'm sorry , you'll need to address the facts explained in the video before you can be taken seriously. What is your point that makes the fuzed chromozone not evidnce of evolution. I would also ask what you think of the fossil evidnce for the caanine teeth and the coccyx if you would care to addres those issues as well. Happy to chat and edbate with you if you wish to addresss the specifics. The fuzed chromozones mentioned in the video first please.

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 did you not read all my comments all this does is prove common something now that may could just has easily be designer or evolution (to a person who is undecided me me its desinger for you its evolution ..whats this video on canine teeth?

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 So you are suggesting a designer has made the Chromozones of man 'look as if ' the chromozones have fuzed, to make it appear that they are the source and irigin . i'm not sure what you mean.?The Chromozones are fuzed , they are living archeology in our DNA. You have manty more within your DNA for all other past ancestors.We are all related to each other in DNA as we are all descended from a single living ancestor. To confirm , your rebuttal of the fuzed chromozone is what?

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 im not suggesting any of that im questioning your bias of the facts all it proofs is nothing only what evolutionists want it to

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 Evidnce proves things ...and there is an abundance of evidnce for EVOLUTION . I have mentioned a few already and you have ignored them. The fuzed x chromozones, the caanine teeth fossil record, the coccyx ...please address them or this debate moves no further , does it?

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 have you ever studied the bible?

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 Yes. I have studeied the Bible thoroughly. i trained to be a minister.

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 there understanding of life and how it works is laughable the scientist know NOTHING .the more they figure out the more they realise they understand nothing.

has a scientist actually made any form of life from scratch .and no i dont mean sticking parts together .thats like me building a pc i didnt really make it

[thomasbryn1]

The fact that the early fossil record shows simple life and the later strata show more complex life certainly is true.As for whether a GOD did it, well he would have to be a cruel god, wishing to watch millions of generations kill themselves until only the fittest survive.NATURE is CRUEL and UNCARING.Your own Cannine teeth are proof of your evolution. Why would a GOD allow for so many variations to be observable in the fossil record? Is he trying to make it look like evolution? Is he?

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 The fossil record only shows a small fraction of species that were living during that time. If evolution is the results of "mutant" random changes in the DNA, why are there so many species found in the FR still living unchanged today? God provided us with a look at His handy work in fossils, man dreamed up evolution so in his little mind, there would be no accountability when he died after a sinful life.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis Interesting idea, what are your explanations for the LIZARD JAW to the inner ear fossil record as previously mentioned . I am going to send you some TRANSITIONAL FOSSIL RECORDS via personal messaging. Please comment on their authenticity as you seem fit. Are you qualified to do so? What are your Biological/ geological qulifications. By the way did I mention..EVOLUTION IS A FACT

[callindisciple]

@thomasbryn1 if the evolution is fact where are the fossils of us being in the process of changing from monkey to human??there are none thats why evolution is FALSE

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple We did not come from MONKEYS ..monkeys are still around today and are modern animals. We came from HOMINIDS. Try googling it if you can't be arsed to even look into the science in case it shatters your ludicrous FAITH based nonsense which has NO EVIDNCE AT ALL. Unless you can tell me how you KNOW jesus is alive?

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 explain why humans have a locking knee joint and how monkeys gradually stood up with out one

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 Which monkeys are you talking about . We are descended from HOMINIDS. not monkeys , monkeys are around today , and therefore cannot be descended from them, we share ancestors with them but are NOT descended from them. however there is a perrfect fossilr record from the hominids which shows all the bone changes . look it up , you will be pleasantly surprised.

[callindisciple]

@hairdie96 are you a christian?and well there are lots of scriptures that say so but you got to understand that the holy spirit, the father and the son are one not three.jesus is god manifested in the flesh 1 timothy 3:16 colossians 1:15-18 ...john 8:58 which is refrence to exodus 3:14 read those first and then ill tell you more cause there is to many to write at once

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple In this reply you do not address the issue raised in the video that the chromozone fuzed shows the evdicence for evolution.. Try and address the point of the video

[callindisciple]

@thomasbryn1 jesus is god he is a spirit lol dont you get it? try an call on any other name and see it does nothing for you.and how do you know that they are right about the chromozone if the bible is fake then so is evolution, what does evolution do for you, NOTHING, it does not deliver you from sin it does not make you humble or make you feel like a million bucks how i feel every sunday and wedensday how do you know man is right about this you make no sense

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple Is MOHAMMED GOD?

[callindisciple]

@thomasbryn1 I dont know much about the muslim belief system but I do have alot of muslim friends and the same books that I asked about like the book of job and some other books are in the qoran and they believe also that jesus is alive still, well my friend I asked any how i cant speek for all of them but he is a very obedient muslim,jesus is god and there is an evangelist who is indian and can tell you jesus is god from the qoran are upc has under ground apostolic churches in the middle east

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple How do you experince JESUS every day?

[hairdie96]

@callindisciple sorry mate but Jesus is NOT God

[callindisciple]

@hairdie96 are u serious lol jesus is not god and what makes u say that? are u a christian or you believe in evolution?if u want truth ill let u know about the truth other wise dont waste my time like thomas does not even know what he is talking about he never studied the bible

[hairdie96]

@callindisciple RUBBISH DOT TRASH TALK SHOW ME THE SCRIPTURES

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple erm yes I did ....Look into john Mills translation of 1707 for the original documents and the lost Q document as i stated to you before

[callindisciple]

@thomasbryn1 and where did the hominds come from? where are those fossils where is the evidence besides a slide show with numbers

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple Are you serious. You need to look into a man called LEAKEY that has sourced the Hominid fossils. And then when you have done that , run your tongue over the teeth in your jaws AND FIND THE ONES WITH A SHARP EDGE that we call the Caanine teeth ( i.e the fangs ). Then look into the fossil record for where those teeth evolved from. Many many people have studied just the fossils of those teeth and you know nothing about it and yet claim to know god. WHY?

[thomasbryn1]

@callindisciple Incidentally this video is addresing the FUZED CHROMOZONE evidnce ..not the existence of HOMINIDS ( which of course is FACT) please address the FUZED CHROMOZONE evidence before claiming that evolution is not TRUE ..TRUST ME ..IT IS TRUE..More true than the claim that Jesus alive and floating around listening to you and all the rest of us

[callindisciple]

@thomasbryn1 and are converting muslims to christians and there are millions of people leaving main line churches to come to a pentecostal church people want the real thing, you cant deny the holy ghost I dont want to call you a liar but I know you never got the holy ghost cause you would not have turned your back on GOD and let the devil lie to you.Are you a scientist?how do you know there telling the truth or if they are right?they could be lying to you

[hairdie96]

@callindisciple actually they claim its very difficult to find give them more time but you know what .. id be happy with any missing link between the animals that in good shpae and hasnt been tampered with .but guess what .even though there are billions of life forms on planet they cant find a single missing link between any of them

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 There are millions of fossil records. i will send you a personal message with them . if you ignore it then you are simply foolng your self

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 i would be happy to accept it

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 a.The fossil record shows transitions between species of Phacops (a trilobite; Phacops rana is the Pennsylvania state fossil; Eldredge 1972; 1974; Strapple 1978).

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 a.Planktonic forminifera (Malmgren et al. 1984). This is an example of punctuated gradualism. A ten-million-year foraminifera fossil record shows long periods of stasis and other periods of relatively rapid but still gradual morphologic change.

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 a.The horns of titanotheres (extinct Cenozoic mammals) appear in progressively larger sizes, from nothing to prominence. Other head and neck features also evolved. These features are adaptations for head-on ramming analogous to sheep behavior (Stanley 1974).

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 these are a little old i was thinking more on the lines of something that we know of alive right now

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 I have sent the links to your personal message . i'm afraid it wouldn't let me post links in the comment boxes here on HYout tube. The animals that are alive today are only the animals alive today, their transitional fossils have not been created yet. You may be misunderstanding evolution if you think we evolved from the animals that are alive today . Wew didn't . we evolved form an ancestor we shared, and those are the animals in the fossils.let me know if you get the links.:-)

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 a.Haasiophis terrasanctus is a primitive marine snake with well-developed hind limbs. Although other limbless snakes might be more ancestral, this fossil shows a relationship of snakes with limbed ancestors (Tchernov et al. 2000). Pachyrhachis is another snake with legs that is related to Haasiophis (Caldwell and Lee 1997).

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 a.The Cambrian fossils Halkiera and Wiwaxia have features that connect them with each other and with the modern phyla of Mollusca, Brachiopoda, and Annelida. In particular, one species of halkieriid has brachiopod-like shells on the dorsal side at each end. This is seen also in an immature stage of the living brachiopod species Neocrania. It has setae identical in structure to polychaetes, a group of annelids.

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 i think that pretty much the attitude of evolutionists WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU COS WE STUDIED HARD

WELL IVE GOT NEWS FOR YOU A LOT OF CREATIONISTS HAVE STUDIED HARDER TO PLEASE GOD

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 Evidnce is the thing that is important. not HOW HARD WE STUDY. Evidnce .it's very simple. come up with some for God and Creationism.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis CAn you name an animal living today that is UNCHANGED TODAY. ALL the fossil records are of ANCESTORS ...with many differences......I am not sure what fossil record you are referring to that includes MODERN DAY animals? Please offer an example

[hairdie96]

@pbodymathis well said 

[hairdie96]

@thomasbryn1 fossil evidence is a fantasy you do know every missing lnk of the last 50 years has been a hoax right .thats desperation to the highest degree and it damages peoples confidence in science

[thomasbryn1]

@hairdie96 Have you ever seen the fossil record for the lizard jaw to the inner ear, or the caanine teeth , or the whale fossil record or indeed any fossil record. Have you?

The fact you call it a hoax ( referring to one incident I presume you mean the victorian hoax ) As i say , walk into a museum or a zoo and claim it is all a hoax and see the response you will get . no body can take any one seriously if they just ignore the fossil record. please , go and look it up,

[pbodymathis]

In evolution, one would think that the # of chromosomes would increase with the more complex species and man would have more than any other. Since I have been told that evolution is always moving forward to better all species, man should not lose any to the apes. Now listen to this guy. He has made an assumption and a way of proving it, the difference in # of CS. Then he mocks creationist reasoning. You can study the Bible but did you have a relationship with Jesus Christ while studying?.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis I was an EVAGELICAL and had( I believed )a very good relationship with JESUS.I began a christian acting troupe and toured the churches.Anyway.The point being made in the video is that the FUZED chromozones SHOW the relationship directly with our ancestors.It is not an assumption it is an observable example of EVIDENCE for evolution.Why would a GOD make it appear like evolution?Have you seen the fossil record of your CAANINE TEETH.The 2 fangs upper and lower jaw.Check it out.

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 God may have used evolution to create all living forms. Started with the little ones and moved to the most intelligent one as He said He made man last to be over all creation. The fused chromosomes do not point to evolution, they just point that we are two very different species with similar genes. It does not prove at all that we came or evolved from an ape like creature. It is all speculation and there is no proof to verify it to be fact.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis I would also like to address the idea that 'MAN was made last ' as it seems to suggest that man is the ultimate and best of creatures,which is against the evolution evidnce before us.Eagles have far better eyes,Bats have far better ears,Chimps have far better arms,dogs have far better noses,Sharks have better teeth,etc etc.If we are truly made in the eyes of God as he was the perfect template..how come he then went on to create better eyes,ears,noses .Is he NOT PERFECTION?

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 Listen to yourself! All creatures have something that makes them unique in order to survive or adapt to their surroundings. What does man have that all animals do not have? Free will and do not forget higher intelligence... WE were made perfect and not to die. When Adam and Eve sinned, then all bets were off as we were now in control of things. So we now have diseases, we suffer, we all die. We lie, cheat, and steal, and murder, and use greed to further ourselves.

[pbodymathis]

Respond to this video... WE are easily fooled. Maybe God fused them to create a creature above all others. One with the ability to think rationally, creatively, deductively, with the capacity to love beyond all other creatures. May be, just may be, God created us in His image to love HIm in return. God is indeed perfect as His creation was but, man went astray and we have what we have. No future except through Christ.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis I'm sorry , that answer did not address any of the points I raised. The Fuzed chromoznes are EVIDENCE that the previous chromozones of the ancestors ..the hominids ..fuzed. and hence show the evolutionary development forward. Add to this the fact that there are chromozones in us for the creation of all our ancestors, and that the embryo stages of all creatures are exactly the same as each other , and the fact that the amount of bones is the same, would suggest evolution.

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 The only evidence they present is that they are different, fused or created. It is your own understanding that points to something that could be false. Like I stated before. God could have used a process like evolution suggests, and created all living things in order. Take two strands of DNA, form a Zygote and then have the cells divide. What do you get? One cell, splits and somewhere a long the way, it specializes into organ systems. Teeth, hands, etc. Chance or Creation?

[pbodymathis]

@pbodymathis 2.. Nothing or God? Really, that is the question here. Is there a God or not? Man wants to be equal to God so he sets out to disprove God's existence. Evolution is man's only hope of accomplishing this. No God, no accountability, no second death, no worries about eternity. You, my friend have been deceived into believing man's understanding of this world. If you remember, God tells us to put our faith in Him and not into man and his principalities. For man is corrupt.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis The other point you have not addresse was that if God has made us in his image why is he NOT PERFECT...why are lesser creatures ( ones that don't love or have the same cognitive capacity as us ) in possession of better attritubutes than us and GOD..i.e Bats ears, dog's noses , eagles eyes''etc etc. DO you truly believe that CHRIST is alive?

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 God made us in His image. Does that mean we resemble God in looks or in purpose? I do not think God looks like us at all but, that is not important. It is a fact that we can be like God here on earth through strong faith. WE have the capacity to heal the sick, cast out demons, and raise the dead just like Jesus did if we only have the faith the size of a mustard seed! God's creation was perfect, man changed it with his sins. I have read where all animals were plant eaters..

[pbodymathis]

@pbodymathis until after the great flood when God told Noah that it was ok to eat meat. So all killing and diseases are the result of sins. If evolution created everything, then we would have never been sick for why would evolution create animals to destroy other animals? Why would or could evolution create a way for controlling populations of species? How could it reason or understand overpopulating in the first place? There is order in this universe because of the Creator.

[pbodymathis]

@pbodymathis Because of the sinful nature of man, order has been thrown out here on earth!

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis I take it this means you believe in SATAN and the SNAKE talking to EVE. How do you justify this with the modern understanding of how the COSMOS came into existence

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 It is all based on what man thinks. Proven or attempted to be proven by theories made up by man. That is what I think. How God made the universe no one knows. Is today's science close, could be. We will not know until we ask Him ourselves.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis Which flood are you referring to? What evidence do you have for it? Evoloution is not an example of order,it is an example of the fact that things compete( ie eat each other and hence only the strong genes survive) Gazelles that do not hve leaping legs do not live as lions catch them,Lions that do not have sharp claws do not live as they do not catch anything. EVOLUTION is a result of the uncaring and battling world we live in. You seem to think it is not.Why?

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 An animal born with deformities does not live because it cannot defend itself or obtain food. Very simple, those animals that can adapt survive, those that can't, die. Why is it that predators have different reproduction cycles than the prey they are after? Example, Lions and antelope or insects. The reproduction ability of the animals that are food stock for predators is such that there is always an abundance of species to carry on the next generation. Predators multiply ...

[pbodymathis]

@pbodymathis .. at a slower rate and it takes longer to mature. What they need to survive will not affect the general population of their prey. Of course if man stays out of it....

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis Have you seen people be raised from the dead? Or healed , or demons cast out that you think would withstand the scrutiny of proper scientific analysis?

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 No, because man cannot grasp what is not of this world. Raising some one from death or praying for a cure for someone with cancer cannot be explained by man and his knowledge. They just pass it off to mistakes by other men in their diagnosis of the situation. Check out on YT near death experiences. Not one but many of them. Science cannot explain this but are trying to relate it to chemical changes in the brain while dieing but, the fact of the matter is this, the people....

[pbodymathis]

@pbodymathis who have experienced them lead totally different lives after coming back to life. The ones from those who did not go to heaven are on par with what the Bible says about the separation between them and God.  Being alone, cold and lonely, not knowing where they are. Just listen to them with an open mind.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis So are you suggesting that people are healed and rised from the dead by GOD and those that die are NOT, i.e. God decides and hence both results could be seen as being GOD's decision? Or are you suggesting that there is acyual evidnce of a GODLY intervention that shows mircales at work? If so what evidnce do you have for it , other than explaining that GOD lets some die and lets others live. Are there ever any scientific interventions such as doctors involved?

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 Man looks for evidence but there is none that meets his standards. Remember, God is not of this world, He is far and above the physical laws that we know of. God makes fools of men who claim intelligence and superior knowledge by using people of low standings and things that defy mans knowledge and ways. We all die. Does it matter when? If a child is suffering and dies and goes to be with God in heaven, it that wrong? All those who have been healed will die also. Death is

[pbodymathis]

@pbodymathis for all of us and God tells us that all men who live will die, and then face judgement. Man has a problem as to when we should die. God does not. Like I have told you, you look to man's meaning of life. Because of sin, man sees things in a sinful way. To mock God as being cruel and non caring is a sin against God. He loves all sinners the same. John 3:16.

[pbodymathis]

Respond to this video... In all the cases I know of, doctors gave little hope in survival but were dumbfounded when test results showed nothing. Since they were not administering any type of treatment in some instances, then it could not be claimed as a medical miracle. In others, modern medicine was used but the results were much faster to the turn around. When the doctors scratch their heads and say God had his hand in this, then I believe them.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis I would probably not agree with your term a MEDICAL MIRACLE. medicine is a scientific process and accepts the random nature of nature , i.e is a detectable and provable way of trying to assist life in it's constant battle with random illnesses and errors in the gene. To claim a MIRACLE means INTERVENTION from some one and doing SOMETHING..i.e not simply allowing the cancer to either regress or disspate , as one would expect from such a random world, but ACTUAL INTERVENTION.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis In all the cases you know did the poeple involved eventually die from the same disease? If so why ? If God can interven and prevent death , why give us death and tease us with a silly ancient Bronze age solution such as ...I will forgive if something is sacrificed and only then will I allow you to live for ever. YAHWEH is very different to JESUS isn't he??..would you do that to your own children???

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 No, they are still here. I cannot believe that you were a so called Christian and not know the Bible any better. We die because of sin. In order to be forgiven for sins in the OT, people had to sacrifice something with great value to them. Jesus ended all that as He was the last sacrifice for forgiveness of sins. If you know Jesus, then you know the Father who sent Him. They are one the same.

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis If a doctor scratched his head to me and said GOD HAD HIS HAND IN THIS I would know isntantly that I was either in southern states USA or MIDDLE EAST...Anywhere else I would simply ask to be moved to another doctor

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis what do you mean by NOT OF THIS WORLD? What is Not of this world ...getting better with medical assistance?

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis The fuzed chromozones are not SIMILAR as you state .They show emphatically that the 2 previous chromozones have FUZED ..without a doubt..not SIMILAR ...they are traced to be FUZED.....WHy would a GOD do this in SEPARATE UNEVOLVED BEINGS? To TRICK US?

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 That is the difference between you and me. God has His way and plan of creating all things in the universe of which I believe and really do not spend a whole lot of my time worrying about. You, on the other hand believe in man and his ability to understand and explain things in this universe which because of sin, can be far from the truth. The trick lies in the source. God has not changed, man changes his mind all the time. Do you believe in the world or do you believe in God

[thomasbryn1]

@pbodymathis HAsn't Man changed his mind about his GODS as well, are you not aware of the many GODS ( even today ) that man claims to be the creator.......ZEUS , APOLLO , MITHRA, etc etc ....WHat evidnce do you offer that JESUS is ALIVE and RISEN that would make Christianity the TRUTH? Not simply a resuclt of ST PAULS ambition

[pbodymathis]

@thomasbryn1 Got told us how to "test" all things. We do that by seeing what they say or claim comes true, and by scriptures. Man has a need to worship something. If it is not the ONE TRUE GOD then it is something else. Like you, you worship science or men and their scientific method. Everything is proven to be true, real, or correct when they say it is. If they cannot prove it then it is false or meaningless. That is your religion. Jesus is alive and amongst us in spirit.

[geniusjas87]

Hmm ya i get all that monkey stuff.. quick question why is there an EYE in the end/beginning of all these videos? :s

[thomasbryn1]

why do you think??

[geniusjas87]

I was hoping you would tell me

[thomasbryn1]

No reason other than i had an image of an eye to add in there!!!

[geniusjas87]

For all the videos? Its pretty weird that you would randomly choose to use pictures of an eye on all these videos.. or maybe its not random...

[thomasbryn1]

No really , unless you can think of a reason why I might have ...!!!

[middlekid95]

And maybe God did decide to just make us that way. I DON'T KNOW. I'll try to remember to ask him when i die.

[thomasbryn1]

erm..........ok ...that is your response eh??

[middlekid95]

DUDE. I said i don't CARE what the world says. These scientists say these things are true... what if someone was uk LYING about this.... If you REALLY want to know... why not ask the awesome God that made us? God made us from the dust of the earth and then breathed the breath of life into us.

[thomasbryn1]

If you REALLY ant TRUTH stop lying to yourself and spending days waiting for things to happen and talking to aa ceiling. Look for truth by looking at FACTS> DO you really believe GOD made that chromozone look like it had fuzed? Why would he do that?