@Iganinja375 I'm not asking you to stop. I'm asking you to redirect your target to the real people who are doing the damage. Don't get innocent people into this. Thank you. I also believe kendo is kendo. I know some very skilled Korean kendo sensei's refer kendo as japanese kendo. Some of them refer kendo as kumdo, but not as a separate art... But as the real Japanese kendo. It's just a name change for some of them. Thank you.
"Many Koreans...practice kumdo claiming that its origins and that of koryu kenjutsu, the forerunner of modern Japanese kendo, lie in ancient Korea. Others concede that Japan developed the equipment and rules for modern practice, but consider kumdo part of traditional Korean culture, thus claiming kumdo to be as much of a birthright for Koreans as kendo is for Japanese."
Boys, Boys! We have too much fighting going on right now to add to it. Suffice it to say that everyone has taken the better parts from each other and made it their own. That said, I would hope that for the sake of safety when the two men were drawing on each other the edges were not actual working edges.
WE ARE ALL ASIANS. CHINESE, JAPANESE, KOREAN....... etcetcetc... been fighting for thousands of years. Now shut up and make love, our former colonial masters need us to pull their shitty economy back up
The Origins of Hwando (from Kingdom Fighter Forum, 10-25-2006)
"During the Choson Dynasty, long swords with single-edged blades were generally referred to as hwando [“curved saber”; the term “saber” will be used interchangeably with “hwando”]. "
If this forum post is correct, hwando is a single-edge curved sword from the Choson Dynasty, not from the Three Kingdom era.
@BeanieNinjay0 You seem to be saying that you gave tiny "seeds" of cultures to Japanese in ancient times (which I seriously doubt particulary about the sword cultures. Sword smiths? LOL). As I said before, you've never sowed the seeds in your own soil and tended them into big trees of sword cultures by yourselves. Nevertheless, you say you are entitled to call Kendo by your own name, Kumdo, as if it is something independent of Kendo, while using all the Kendo outfits and training tools.
The fact that you're generalizing an entire population leads me to believe you're quite ignorant. I am Korean/Irish. I have lived in Korea. My kendo teach is Korean. Kendo is vastly recognized as a Japanese art in Korea. So don't get your panties in a bunch. The irritation from you japanese comes the fact that you think your culture is derived from strictly Japanese influence. That is absolutely false. Kumdo vs kendo is like karate vs Kung Fu. Sorry, karate did not come out of thin air, and eas
Do all you Japanese manga fags like to bicker about what you think is stolen culture? How about we look at the fact that samurai look awfully similar to warriors of the tarakata. Or that swords preexisted before katanas during the imperial age. How about the portrayal of Caucasian characters in your anime?-- probably cause y'all too ugly. Loljk. Seriously, Japanese are the only people I see bicker about having culture stolen. Mist likely the result of being stuck on a small island lol
>Japanese are the only people I see bicker about having culture stolen.
No, Koreans are the only people who call Kendo by their own name (Kumdo) OUTSIDE their own country. On top of that, they claim that Kendo originated in Korea. This is giving people abroad an impression that Kumdo is something different from Kendo with different origin. It's no good because you are cheating people in the name of a martial art.
No nations other than Koreans venture to do this sort of thing. Even Chinese and Taiwanese call it "Kendo" instead of its Chinese name and credit its origin with Japanese.
raabrashi says, "you should try to focus your energies towards training and becoming a better person." I agree. I'd say you put more energies in ethical training and become a better person.
@raabrashi It doesn't matter what this guy is showing - Kendo, Iaido or old-school Kenjutsu. He's selling the fruits he took from his neighbor's orchard.
It's sad to see all the racism on this thread. Refined skill, good spirit, and a good soul don't have racial boundaries. Perhaps you should try to focus your energies towards training and becoming a better person, rather than being a troll with destructive criticisms.
@raabrashi Koreans are just like orchard thieves. They steal the fruits of cultures from the trees they never tended and watered. They say they gave Japanese some tiny "seeds" of cultures in ancient times. You know what I mean. We know most of those claims are untrue because they never sowed the seeds in their own soil and tended them into big trees. Cultures are fruits, not seeds. Give us fruits!
@raabrashi But when the trees the Japanese tended have grown tall and born lots of fruits that look tasty, they suddenly come and claim these fruits are also theirs because they gave Japanese the seeds in ancient times. They steal the fruits and sell them to foreigners, tauting they harvested them from their own trees.
@raabrashi What the Kumdo master or something is showing in this video is exactly this. But nevertheless, they claim on their home page like this: "What is Kumdo? Kumdo is an ancient form of martial art with its origins in Korea."
@bottomOFair dude. its called you got it completely wrong. koreans didnt think samurai was savage. they just thought the way of japanese samurai was savage cuz they are practicing to kill whereas shinra's hwarangs practiced to protect.
@bottomOFair who the hell said that? samurai isnt originated from korea AT ALL. just that koreans (shinra) people taught japanese people how to make swords. them and their practices are totally different things.
I recorded a lot of this same footage off of Korean TV when I lived there more than 10 years ago. I didn't know who Master Seong was then, but I still thought he was amazing. 10 years later of my own training, I still think he's awesome. Just great technique. I'm sorry he's got to deal with a lot of these Japanese Racists on youtube. People should just respect great skill regardless of whose doing because that kind of skill is one in a million to achieve.
@Dorchagraine ......There is no real Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu dojo in California. You may know the kata and such of the art, but I have this very good feeling that you havent done your blood seal. Your Aikido dojo might "teach" it but its not licensed and or recognized by Otake sensei.
i wrote some negative comments to fake Korean Gumdo or Kumdo movies,but this movie is perfect and beautiful to use Katana.
i think Korea has some problem,the organization named Kendo accurately
is legitimacy and study Japanese Iaido or Kendo very well,but some of group create funny style by selfish using Katana swing around like TV show and deceive European people and make money?
@gothicalanima0204 Japanese culture was banned in Korea until 1998, practice of arts like this required giving it a Korean character. Japan has copied and adapted many things from other cultures. We're one globe, and we can grow together or apart.
I have no doubt that that man is an expert when it comes to his art. But the entire first half was not all that impressive. The majority of those scenarios would have ended with one guy having his gut emptied and the other with his head half removed, there was little to no defense in those moves. Now the cutting tests were much more impressive in my opinion.
Master Seong has been my Kumdo instructor during my university years in Korea around 1988-90. He's a very nice guy, excellent swordman and a very good friend.
The last tiem i met him was around 1991 when I went to have a small trip back to Seoul. He told me that he's gong to work in the US.
It's really amazing to see him with great success there. From Art ..your Thai student.
He is REALLY good. I love watching katana fights, whether the master imagines there is an opponent nearby or if there is a real opponent and he is one of the best i have seen...
what is a good weight for a katana ? i have a katana that is damascus steel and i am self taught but it seems like i would never be able to move that fast O_O
@MiPipesAndCigars Depends on the length. Roughly 1100 - 1400 grams is a usual weight. (Assuming we are talking about steel here, a true katana and not a iaii to.
I forgot to mention that I enjoy and respect the art and specially this master, His mind and body are so in tune with present that emotions from past and thoughts from future can not effect his state of mind. His mind commanding every part of his body so perfectly that he probably knows if a single strand of hair from opponent falls, and can read his mindset like a mirror.
Unreal, I am going to make sure I'll never piss this guy off. I'm gonna be buddy buddy. Damn my body hurts from watching this. He would be a good sushi chef too ...
@ninjanewblet Kendo doesn't just teach you how to swing swords, it teaches you how to fight.
Applying the concepts of kendo to bare hand fighting isn't very difficult. My sensei once floored two TKD fighters each half a foot taller than him at the same time with no hand to hand training (maybe a couple of brawls as experience).
And anyway, it's not about fighting, it's about improving one's self through the practice of kendo.
Any fool can take something at face value, face value is worthless.
in china its against the law to carry a real sword so unless this is not in china thats the reason why. The government seem to believe if they had real ones they would rise up against them, just a precaution i suppose.
@m1garand00 i've traveled to china several times to further my studies of the martial arts and i can assure you that this is silly comment. almost no where in the civilized world allows individuals to freely roam around with swords in their hands. also, in my trips there i have purchased 2 straight swords among many other weapons at local shops and carried them back to my dojo with no problems. further more, on any given day there is as many as several 100,000s individuals training with swords.
@m1garand00 1 more point to make is that in china. honor and respect are a big part of the culture and asking a chinese man to give up a sword that may have been in his family for centuries is simply not going to happen, period.
look at 3:24 and 2:25 at the begin and the end of the movement, he´s gaining strenght to the movemente and hit the target, AND end the movement like a baseball player, the entire movement looks like a basebal swing...HORRIPILANTE!
Please, don't be in an error. All these exercices dont match in terms of timing, distances and power.
Only a comment for begginers: when leaving the sword from the scabbard to cut, the left hand must work (it's named 'saya-biki'). There is no image where you can see that.
I don't know how long u've been practicing sword but as i see it looks extremely difficult to follow and almost perfect ,when u use real sword the movement is a lot different from using sinai, however that's advanced and totally practical technic hard to follow and dangerous.
I've been practicing during 5 years Iaido and ancient iai school (not with shinai or bokken, but iaito. it's like a katana but lighter).
Every movement is difficult, but we have to see the difference between dancing quickly and practicing budo and application to "realistic" forms. It seems to be dangerous but with a critic eye I can't see no danger because almost all distances are not realistc.
I would love to go into a real school instead of training at home, I know with a Good Sensei id be great but in this little island there isn't much I can do plus in a couple of months I'm going to college, which is awesome but ahh... ^_^ I'm alive that's what matters right, great video and master!
man your in the best place islands have area like forest to train in you can try on boulders and achely cut them in half or pieces and train on woods and traing alot of these
@Nlrvana99 Do you want to learn Kendo instead. Because i've been to Puerto Rico. And they have Kendo there. I don't know about this martial art though.
@Nlrvana99 do you know everyone on the island? Are you familiar with the term acres of diamonds? Don't be too sure there isn't one in your own back yard. I found a true master hermit in a tiny town that almost certainly had no real martial arts to offer. They are out there... don't give up hope!
The blade in the vid is not up to the standards of a real sword. It is lightweight, and may have a fuller, though the lighting hides such details. Most swords used for draw cutting these days have a very deep fuller, often only an 1/8 of an inch thick within the fuller, which can be very wide. This makes for a sword that, while able to not bend from it's own weight, is extremely flimsy. Its also very loud to swing, which makes spectators think your cutting really fast and powerful.
The problem with this drawing and cutting is that both opponents are taking the time to take the sword in two hands before they actually deliver a blow. A swordsman worth his bread and butter will draw and cut with one hand, and you will be dead as you are trying to wind up with two hands to deliver a more powerful blow. This is in part where power is a mistake. Too much time is being taken to draw and re grip the sword with two hands. You've already got it in one hand, cut with that one.
Yeah i saw that too, I'm guessing it must have been due to the extra thickness, though, whilst I'm no kendo expert, surely that'd be a bad idea in a human-human situation, due to it making your move obviously and giving time for the opponent for react?
I dunno, probably just for the exercise though, maybe I'm wrong?
That back swing is a bad idea. I can tel you this fellow is no expert, and he should have been able to perform the motion and the cut without any wind up whatsoever. The movements he is doing in this video are choreographed, and rehearsed until it is perfect looking. To be honest I'm not super impressed. True he cut through a lot of straw, which takes solid technique, but his application of said technique was poor. His movements are also far to predictable. Nice cloths their wearing though.
Is this art a derivative of Eishin Ryu (MSR/MJER) and/or of Seitei Iaido? Maybe it's just me, but to my eyes it seems to borrow rather heavily from those arts.
Is it a recent invention? I don't see anything about its origins on the website advertised.
Actually, the title of "Grandmaster" is bestowed on him by the FIK as he has attained 7th Dan status in accordance with FIK regulations. The difference is that he has earned his title.
FIK regulations? Earned? Rank = Poison There is no difference, as titles don't win fights, nor do ranks, or peoples opinions, which you are entitled to have. You should not attack others for having them as well. Don't take things to heart so much. Rank is meaningless nonsense, but if it makes some people feel better to have a badge to wear saying they are great, it means little to me. Just don't send me messages to my private box anymore.
Right, better to read gorin no sho, dance in your basement with bokuto and iaito and promote yourself master for that! XD you guy are really hilarious.
(You are the Dancing Queen, young and sweet, only seventeen) :D
haha a European knight!? please a Samurai would fucking run through a knight Samurai would be quicker plus they have better weaponry im sure a Claymore wouldn't be able to compete with a Katana plus the Samurai training was a lot more extensive then a knights
I don't know, katanas are powerful but could they cut through thick armor? I think a night with heavy armor and lots of battle field experience would probably a pretty powerful opponent.
ahahaha silly kid! the katana is very good sword and samurai have excelent tehnique but an full plate armor knight whit a morning star or great sword would slice and dice a samurai no offence:)
The kinght wouldn't be able to land a hit, he has to swing his sword to get a powerful hit, and if he's wearing full body armor, the helmet would screw up his sight.
historians in general say Samurai would win? Historians rarely enter into conjecture. Historians wouldnt say A Samurai would beat a Knight because they never fought, and existed in different times, using different weapons, armor, ect. developed specifically for their particular opponents. Dont say "historians in general say", when no historians even care.
not nesescaryly. you see samurais wore armor too on the battlefield, it's just that their armor was lighter a bit. suppose a knight could fight with a samurai the question is : where do they fight? on the street or on the battlefield? what weapons would they use? just swords? cos in most cases samurai warriors rode a horse on the battlefield and fought with a polearm like naginata or an odachi. it would have been a suicide for them to use a katana from the start, cos that was a street weapon.
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iganinja375 5 months ago
@Iganinja375 I'm not asking you to stop. I'm asking you to redirect your target to the real people who are doing the damage. Don't get innocent people into this. Thank you. I also believe kendo is kendo. I know some very skilled Korean kendo sensei's refer kendo as japanese kendo. Some of them refer kendo as kumdo, but not as a separate art... But as the real Japanese kendo. It's just a name change for some of them. Thank you.
jung567 6 months ago
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iganinja375 6 months ago
And also just enjoy the skill of the man on the video and critique to help him improve, no?
jung567 6 months ago
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iganinja375 6 months ago
@jung567
The Wikipedia entry on Kumdo reads like this:
"Many Koreans...practice kumdo claiming that its origins and that of koryu kenjutsu, the forerunner of modern Japanese kendo, lie in ancient Korea. Others concede that Japan developed the equipment and rules for modern practice, but consider kumdo part of traditional Korean culture, thus claiming kumdo to be as much of a birthright for Koreans as kendo is for Japanese."
iganinja375 6 months ago
武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea .
【It is the official document at Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century】
國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，
“Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting”
enushisama 6 months ago
朝鮮王朝實録：The Annals of the choson Dynasty (The True Record of the Korean Dynasty)…
【June 11, 1480】矧惟國人, 不慣槍劍, 專業弓矢, 爲禦敵之備
The people were not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from enemies only by archery...
【October 13, 1592】上敎政院曰“我國絶無劒手”
The king said “There was no swordman in our country at all”...
【July 11, 1594】我國自古劍術不傳
There has not been descendent any swordplay from ancient time in our country...
enushisama 6 months ago
Boys, Boys! We have too much fighting going on right now to add to it. Suffice it to say that everyone has taken the better parts from each other and made it their own. That said, I would hope that for the sake of safety when the two men were drawing on each other the edges were not actual working edges.
Koaslice191 6 months ago 2
WE ARE ALL ASIANS. CHINESE, JAPANESE, KOREAN....... etcetcetc... been fighting for thousands of years. Now shut up and make love, our former colonial masters need us to pull their shitty economy back up
spdsboiboi86 6 months ago 2
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Chutiwathana 7 months ago
@japantruthify01
The Origins of Hwando (from Kingdom Fighter Forum, 10-25-2006)
"During the Choson Dynasty, long swords with single-edged blades were generally referred to as hwando [“curved saber”; the term “saber” will be used interchangeably with “hwando”]. "
If this forum post is correct, hwando is a single-edge curved sword from the Choson Dynasty, not from the Three Kingdom era.
milonganuova 7 months ago
武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji (1790) : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea .
[It is an official document at a Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century]
國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，
Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting (17th).
購得戚繼光紀效新書遣訓局郎韓嶠遍質東來將士
Therefore, Koreans began learning sword skills and others from Chinese.
enushisama 7 months ago
@BeanieNinjay0 You seem to be saying that you gave tiny "seeds" of cultures to Japanese in ancient times (which I seriously doubt particulary about the sword cultures. Sword smiths? LOL). As I said before, you've never sowed the seeds in your own soil and tended them into big trees of sword cultures by yourselves. Nevertheless, you say you are entitled to call Kendo by your own name, Kumdo, as if it is something independent of Kendo, while using all the Kendo outfits and training tools.
milonganuova 7 months ago
The fact that you're generalizing an entire population leads me to believe you're quite ignorant. I am Korean/Irish. I have lived in Korea. My kendo teach is Korean. Kendo is vastly recognized as a Japanese art in Korea. So don't get your panties in a bunch. The irritation from you japanese comes the fact that you think your culture is derived from strictly Japanese influence. That is absolutely false. Kumdo vs kendo is like karate vs Kung Fu. Sorry, karate did not come out of thin air, and eas
BeanieNinjay0 7 months ago
Do all you Japanese manga fags like to bicker about what you think is stolen culture? How about we look at the fact that samurai look awfully similar to warriors of the tarakata. Or that swords preexisted before katanas during the imperial age. How about the portrayal of Caucasian characters in your anime?-- probably cause y'all too ugly. Loljk. Seriously, Japanese are the only people I see bicker about having culture stolen. Mist likely the result of being stuck on a small island lol
BeanieNinjay0 7 months ago
@BeanieNinjay0
>Japanese are the only people I see bicker about having culture stolen.
No, Koreans are the only people who call Kendo by their own name (Kumdo) OUTSIDE their own country. On top of that, they claim that Kendo originated in Korea. This is giving people abroad an impression that Kumdo is something different from Kendo with different origin. It's no good because you are cheating people in the name of a martial art.
milonganuova 7 months ago
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milonganuova 7 months ago
@BeanieNinjay0
No nations other than Koreans venture to do this sort of thing. Even Chinese and Taiwanese call it "Kendo" instead of its Chinese name and credit its origin with Japanese.
raabrashi says, "you should try to focus your energies towards training and becoming a better person." I agree. I'd say you put more energies in ethical training and become a better person.
milonganuova 7 months ago
awesome
stevenluspo 7 months ago
@raabrashi It doesn't matter what this guy is showing - Kendo, Iaido or old-school Kenjutsu. He's selling the fruits he took from his neighbor's orchard.
milonganuova 7 months ago
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milonganuova 7 months ago
It's sad to see all the racism on this thread. Refined skill, good spirit, and a good soul don't have racial boundaries. Perhaps you should try to focus your energies towards training and becoming a better person, rather than being a troll with destructive criticisms.
raabrashi 7 months ago
@raabrashi Koreans are just like orchard thieves. They steal the fruits of cultures from the trees they never tended and watered. They say they gave Japanese some tiny "seeds" of cultures in ancient times. You know what I mean. We know most of those claims are untrue because they never sowed the seeds in their own soil and tended them into big trees. Cultures are fruits, not seeds. Give us fruits!
milonganuova 7 months ago
@raabrashi But when the trees the Japanese tended have grown tall and born lots of fruits that look tasty, they suddenly come and claim these fruits are also theirs because they gave Japanese the seeds in ancient times. They steal the fruits and sell them to foreigners, tauting they harvested them from their own trees.
milonganuova 7 months ago
@raabrashi What the Kumdo master or something is showing in this video is exactly this. But nevertheless, they claim on their home page like this: "What is Kumdo? Kumdo is an ancient form of martial art with its origins in Korea."
This is utterly shameless. What can we do?
milonganuova 7 months ago
@bottomOFair dude. its called you got it completely wrong. koreans didnt think samurai was savage. they just thought the way of japanese samurai was savage cuz they are practicing to kill whereas shinra's hwarangs practiced to protect.
SenSubeen 7 months ago
Questionable authentic/historic style aside, those are some nice cuts.
LotusDragon09 7 months ago
@bottomOFair who the hell said that? samurai isnt originated from korea AT ALL. just that koreans (shinra) people taught japanese people how to make swords. them and their practices are totally different things.
SenSubeen 7 months ago
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nahi27 8 months ago
Hi, anyone know what type of studio these gents filmed in?
I would like to do some filming of my own using this type of surrounding.
Would be great if anyone could help.
Many thanks.
TsunamiYodokan 8 months ago
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pomminsu 8 months ago
its over of hand if you happene to fail with training partner 2:20
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MrSengoku777 8 months ago
You would be truly dead if you went up against this guy.The only good thing is it would be so fast you wouldnt know you were dead
billvw1974 9 months ago
I recorded a lot of this same footage off of Korean TV when I lived there more than 10 years ago. I didn't know who Master Seong was then, but I still thought he was amazing. 10 years later of my own training, I still think he's awesome. Just great technique. I'm sorry he's got to deal with a lot of these Japanese Racists on youtube. People should just respect great skill regardless of whose doing because that kind of skill is one in a million to achieve.
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jyogkuro 9 months ago
If anyone lives in Victorville, CA I offer lessons. In Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu and German broadsword. Great video by the way.
Dorchagraine 10 months ago
@Dorchagraine ......There is no real Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu dojo in California. You may know the kata and such of the art, but I have this very good feeling that you havent done your blood seal. Your Aikido dojo might "teach" it but its not licensed and or recognized by Otake sensei.
KagaKiyomitsu 10 months ago
Is he supposed to not swing when he first draws the sword at 3:20, or did he make a mistake while drawing it and have to correct?
TheStripesofWhite 10 months ago
this movie is great and perfect.
Seong sensei is great!
i wrote some negative comments to fake Korean Gumdo or Kumdo movies,but this movie is perfect and beautiful to use Katana.
i think Korea has some problem,the organization named Kendo accurately
is legitimacy and study Japanese Iaido or Kendo very well,but some of group create funny style by selfish using Katana swing around like TV show and deceive European people and make money?
この団体はきちんと剣道コムって書いてるよ。
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 10 months ago 2
この流派はちゃんと日本武道研究してると思う。きれいな型してる。
韓国偽剣道にはなんちゃってちゃんばら流派と、日本武術を継承している流派と別れているのかな。そして正統なほうは地味なので隅に追いやられてると。
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 10 months ago 2
@gothicalanima0204 Japanese culture was banned in Korea until 1998, practice of arts like this required giving it a Korean character. Japan has copied and adapted many things from other cultures. We're one globe, and we can grow together or apart.
thinkfaster 10 months ago 2
I have no doubt that that man is an expert when it comes to his art. But the entire first half was not all that impressive. The majority of those scenarios would have ended with one guy having his gut emptied and the other with his head half removed, there was little to no defense in those moves. Now the cutting tests were much more impressive in my opinion.
PrecutThracian 10 months ago
ยูทูปเป็นหีแตดไรวะ โหลดช้าชิป
tomsaplay00 11 months ago
Master Seong has been my Kumdo instructor during my university years in Korea around 1988-90. He's a very nice guy, excellent swordman and a very good friend.
The last tiem i met him was around 1991 when I went to have a small trip back to Seoul. He told me that he's gong to work in the US.
It's really amazing to see him with great success there. From Art ..your Thai student.
Nitipat9 11 months ago 4
I respect korean people, but it's not japanese Budo concept and spirit.
Exemple : chiburi and noto don't need to be so violent! the combat is ended, and you have to demonstrate respect to the human who died.
Speed is not the first quality...every one, one day, find some one who is faster him...
jojutsu 11 months ago
His horizontal cuts have some small flaws but apart from that this man is EXCELLENT.
I am known as a harsh critic of youtube-tameshigiri-masters but this man is far beyond anything I have seen.
His school and a school from one german guy are the only ones I would atend if I wanted to go to one.
But, I can't say, from what I have seen here, that these students have anything near proper katana handling.
From now on, I will use this video as a example of proper technique.
Cheers.
ValarMorgoth 1 year ago 9
He is REALLY good. I love watching katana fights, whether the master imagines there is an opponent nearby or if there is a real opponent and he is one of the best i have seen...
tacticalmastermind 1 year ago
WOAH... Nuff said that guy is pro
KJTheSamurai 1 year ago
Omg, that's more than I'd dare to do with a bokken D:
mlavik1 1 year ago
Im not that much into katanas... for me nothing better than a long sword...
:)
not take me wrong way... that is very impressive
XYLagGaming 1 year ago
1:52 that's what I call hand control...inch or two more and the white guy would be 6 feet under
emel60 1 year ago
what is a good weight for a katana ? i have a katana that is damascus steel and i am self taught but it seems like i would never be able to move that fast O_O
MiPipesAndCigars 1 year ago
@MiPipesAndCigars Depends on the length. Roughly 1100 - 1400 grams is a usual weight. (Assuming we are talking about steel here, a true katana and not a iaii to.
Jiyukan 11 months ago
how much do REAL katanas cost?
arsnel366 1 year ago
@arsnel366
depending on the definition of REAL
stainless steel replica can cost about $100- $300
some do come in live (sharpened) blade
steel live blade (production katana) can cost
anywhere from $300 - $1000 (depending on finishing/ company)
a master hand crafted katana from japan is anywhere $5000 - $10 000
sometaaw 1 year ago
切腹の練習もしないとな。
00720000 1 year ago
nice katana
chanapat100 1 year ago
This is a nice video!
zenaku85 1 year ago
If you wanna win sword fights wear black. 'Cos the one in black always wins. ;)
ucheucheuche 1 year ago 2
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zenaku85 1 year ago
I forgot to mention that I enjoy and respect the art and specially this master, His mind and body are so in tune with present that emotions from past and thoughts from future can not effect his state of mind. His mind commanding every part of his body so perfectly that he probably knows if a single strand of hair from opponent falls, and can read his mindset like a mirror.
xxtheqtipsxx 1 year ago
Unreal, I am going to make sure I'll never piss this guy off. I'm gonna be buddy buddy. Damn my body hurts from watching this. He would be a good sushi chef too ...
xxtheqtipsxx 1 year ago
After the move at 1:54 id probably thank him for the closes shave i'd ever had after i got done shittin' mysefl
sys40198 1 year ago
Who the hell fights with swords these days?
ninjanewblet 1 year ago
@ninjanewblet
You're missing the point,Noob.
Actually, there are many "points" and you're missing ALL of them.
Gmissile 1 year ago
@ninjanewblet Kendo doesn't just teach you how to swing swords, it teaches you how to fight.
Applying the concepts of kendo to bare hand fighting isn't very difficult. My sensei once floored two TKD fighters each half a foot taller than him at the same time with no hand to hand training (maybe a couple of brawls as experience).
And anyway, it's not about fighting, it's about improving one's self through the practice of kendo.
Any fool can take something at face value, face value is worthless.
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago 2
@ihaterobbie123 i have to agree with you on this lol, im not a kendo practitioner but i respect the art.
shinobiwarrior1990 1 year ago
It has been my privilege and great memory to have many Kumdo lesson with him during my University life in Seoul 1988-90.
He is a great swordman, and more important a very nice human-being.
Nitipat9 1 year ago 2
they trust heach other very much
TheEcnephias 1 year ago
wow, i hope they using the not sharpen iadio swords, if not, this is extremly dangerous. if u hit someone with a sharp katana, the have no chance
69KiRa 1 year ago
3:30 on is Soul Reaper Academy!
deadlywithguitar 1 year ago
this guy can fuck u up
infectedkoozer 1 year ago
剣道を元に剣術を研究してるからすぐわかる。
日本では剣道は剣術の一部でしかないんだが。
ripple1966 1 year ago
wow i love the katana sword
pixeluniform 1 year ago
Wow !! Amazing !
javierios26 1 year ago
Super Master
vincekindall 1 year ago
wow this is amazing
PLURscopeZ 1 year ago
yo i'm about to take the samurai class and get all these cool perks
superbungabunga 1 year ago
wonderful swordsmanship, but i'm still in favor of the chinese straight sword being the dominant weapon as far as swords go.
governmentcheese411 1 year ago
GODLIKE!!!
icecrimson 1 year ago
best skill ever
byebye2romance 1 year ago
ive been fasnated with swords. i made all kinds of wooden swords and today i bought a real katana. i wish to learn more of the swords master whoever
Noonrider11 1 year ago
belle Prestation
christianicar 1 year ago
the masters katana is awesome! one piece of art.
better i've ever seen.
itachi12142 1 year ago
Awesome!
Mananandata 1 year ago
Great! : ) ...this is it. Kompliment. V.
vladimirvilanov 1 year ago
in china its against the law to carry a real sword so unless this is not in china thats the reason why. The government seem to believe if they had real ones they would rise up against them, just a precaution i suppose.
m1garand00 2 years ago
@m1garand00 i've traveled to china several times to further my studies of the martial arts and i can assure you that this is silly comment. almost no where in the civilized world allows individuals to freely roam around with swords in their hands. also, in my trips there i have purchased 2 straight swords among many other weapons at local shops and carried them back to my dojo with no problems. further more, on any given day there is as many as several 100,000s individuals training with swords.
governmentcheese411 1 year ago
@m1garand00 1 more point to make is that in china. honor and respect are a big part of the culture and asking a chinese man to give up a sword that may have been in his family for centuries is simply not going to happen, period.
governmentcheese411 1 year ago
@SleepingWolf26
Looking for something to help with self defence?
Try shotokan karate or if you're into weapons try Jodo.
ihaterobbie123 2 years ago
※They are using imitation sword for the demonstration. Do not do it with real one.
16bitwars 2 years ago
looks like the real deal
csarito 2 years ago
look at 3:24 and 2:25 at the begin and the end of the movement, he´s gaining strenght to the movemente and hit the target, AND end the movement like a baseball player, the entire movement looks like a basebal swing...HORRIPILANTE!
abirached2 2 years ago
Please, don't be in an error. All these exercices dont match in terms of timing, distances and power.
Only a comment for begginers: when leaving the sword from the scabbard to cut, the left hand must work (it's named 'saya-biki'). There is no image where you can see that.
Anyway, it's beautiful to see.
miquelangelperez 2 years ago 2
I don't know how long u've been practicing sword but as i see it looks extremely difficult to follow and almost perfect ,when u use real sword the movement is a lot different from using sinai, however that's advanced and totally practical technic hard to follow and dangerous.
ny1114bway 2 years ago
I've been practicing during 5 years Iaido and ancient iai school (not with shinai or bokken, but iaito. it's like a katana but lighter).
Every movement is difficult, but we have to see the difference between dancing quickly and practicing budo and application to "realistic" forms. It seems to be dangerous but with a critic eye I can't see no danger because almost all distances are not realistc.
miquelangelperez 2 years ago
EXELENTE
jcfichele 2 years ago
I would love to go into a real school instead of training at home, I know with a Good Sensei id be great but in this little island there isn't much I can do plus in a couple of months I'm going to college, which is awesome but ahh... ^_^ I'm alive that's what matters right, great video and master!
Nlrvana99 2 years ago 8
man your in the best place islands have area like forest to train in you can try on boulders and achely cut them in half or pieces and train on woods and traing alot of these
keni184 2 years ago
@Nlrvana99 Where are you from?
zenaku85 1 year ago
@zenaku85 Puerto Rico! =)
Nlrvana99 1 year ago
@Nlrvana99 Do you want to learn Kendo instead. Because i've been to Puerto Rico. And they have Kendo there. I don't know about this martial art though.
zenaku85 1 year ago
@zenaku85 I'd love to if i found one near Mayaguez because I just started college and the only available transport is a bike, but I'm grateful =)
Nlrvana99 1 year ago
@Nlrvana99 do you know everyone on the island? Are you familiar with the term acres of diamonds? Don't be too sure there isn't one in your own back yard. I found a true master hermit in a tiny town that almost certainly had no real martial arts to offer. They are out there... don't give up hope!
TheShadowlin 1 year ago
@Nlrvana99 If you're going to college off the island you'll probably find someone.
uuumdm 10 months ago
im japanese.
this is wondaful!!
zousandazou 2 years ago
before i started kendo, this is what i thought i was going to be doing!
silkyjohns0n 2 years ago
wow this is powerfull
leandrofabrice 2 years ago
居合道も韓国人が作ったとそのうち言い出すんでしょうか。
hiroyuki1403 2 years ago 52
@hiroyuki1403 確かにｗｗでもそれ言ったらみんなおこるだろｗｗ
tetug17 1 year ago
@tetug17 どこまでも恥知らずな民族ですから必ず言い出しますよ。
hiroyuki1403 1 year ago
2:49 awesome
Jinkzy123 2 years ago
The blade in the vid is not up to the standards of a real sword. It is lightweight, and may have a fuller, though the lighting hides such details. Most swords used for draw cutting these days have a very deep fuller, often only an 1/8 of an inch thick within the fuller, which can be very wide. This makes for a sword that, while able to not bend from it's own weight, is extremely flimsy. Its also very loud to swing, which makes spectators think your cutting really fast and powerful.
KenseiSL 2 years ago
That's more than a bit misleading. First of all, the spine is surrounded by muscle, tendons, makes things a bit more difficult.
KenseiSL 2 years ago
The problem with this drawing and cutting is that both opponents are taking the time to take the sword in two hands before they actually deliver a blow. A swordsman worth his bread and butter will draw and cut with one hand, and you will be dead as you are trying to wind up with two hands to deliver a more powerful blow. This is in part where power is a mistake. Too much time is being taken to draw and re grip the sword with two hands. You've already got it in one hand, cut with that one.
KenseiSL 2 years ago
at the end he failed at puting the sword in
jackerrspk 2 years ago
Compare this guy with a Japanese master. It's like comparing apples and toilet seats.
konstakt 2 years ago
around 3:27 i noticed a slight backswing (correct me if i am wrong) was he trying to prep himself and wind up for the big cut?
guyver20 2 years ago
Yeah i saw that too, I'm guessing it must have been due to the extra thickness, though, whilst I'm no kendo expert, surely that'd be a bad idea in a human-human situation, due to it making your move obviously and giving time for the opponent for react?
I dunno, probably just for the exercise though, maybe I'm wrong?
AmayasSukai 2 years ago
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Beckettlol 2 years ago
Don't worry about not being a Kendo expert, this isn't Kendo lol, looks like some Iaido offshoot, from what I can tell.
Beckettlol 2 years ago
That back swing is a bad idea. I can tel you this fellow is no expert, and he should have been able to perform the motion and the cut without any wind up whatsoever. The movements he is doing in this video are choreographed, and rehearsed until it is perfect looking. To be honest I'm not super impressed. True he cut through a lot of straw, which takes solid technique, but his application of said technique was poor. His movements are also far to predictable. Nice cloths their wearing though.
KenseiSL 2 years ago
nice nice
01supersaiyan 2 years ago
Most of the Korean video related to Iai or Battou-dou are horrible craps. But I can tell that he is real. Why is that? Was he trained in Japan?
DonkeyJiro 2 years ago 3
=O whoa never knew my master was so like amazing, lol :]
NowBrokenOnceWhole 2 years ago
realy ? he is?
z1sania 2 years ago
yea, i attend his school sung moo kwan in NJ! :]
NowBrokenOnceWhole 2 years ago
try fighting him in a kendo match lol not very fun
TK4210 2 years ago
I wouldn't like to meet them in the dark alley, would you?
one cut with that thing and good buy to life,
I am not going to Japan, before I learn how to use katana, lol
mindartist1 2 years ago
Is this art a derivative of Eishin Ryu (MSR/MJER) and/or of Seitei Iaido? Maybe it's just me, but to my eyes it seems to borrow rather heavily from those arts.
Is it a recent invention? I don't see anything about its origins on the website advertised.
Vodkakinesis 2 years ago
Siljun Dobup is an invention of Grandmaster Seong (in the video) who has studied sword intensively in both Korea and Japan.
raabrashi 2 years ago
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KenseiSL 2 years ago
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raabrashi 2 years ago
My mistake, wish it changed my opinion. Take care.
KenseiSL 2 years ago
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raabrashi 2 years ago
This fellow calls himself "Grandmaster". I see little difference in this honorarium.
KenseiSL 2 years ago
Actually, the title of "Grandmaster" is bestowed on him by the FIK as he has attained 7th Dan status in accordance with FIK regulations. The difference is that he has earned his title.
raabrashi 2 years ago
FIK regulations? Earned? Rank = Poison There is no difference, as titles don't win fights, nor do ranks, or peoples opinions, which you are entitled to have. You should not attack others for having them as well. Don't take things to heart so much. Rank is meaningless nonsense, but if it makes some people feel better to have a badge to wear saying they are great, it means little to me. Just don't send me messages to my private box anymore.
KenseiSL 2 years ago
@KenseiSL
kenseiSL, your a cottager,
you spit on tradition and art from a great height and expect people to respect you.
silkyjohns0n 2 years ago
Right, better to read gorin no sho, dance in your basement with bokuto and iaito and promote yourself master for that! XD you guy are really hilarious.
(You are the Dancing Queen, young and sweet, only seventeen) :D
zorzevic 2 years ago
So be it, if you wish to argue I won't engage you in debate. Good bye.
KenseiSL 2 years ago
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KenseiSL 2 years ago
i believe it is recent invention
sleepykid156 2 years ago
No... you are being ignorant....
HEE!HEE! CHA'MON!!!
kotor87 2 years ago
i hope they are not sharp. too many mistakes before with other masters had happent already.
MTotenkopf 2 years ago 2
I train in eastern and western swordplay, and the first thing I learned is that the sword always depend on the user, even before the sword is drawn.
Anyways, this Master Seung is genius. I hope my skill will match this one day.
megadeath45 2 years ago
1:53...... HOLY SHIT THATS CLOSE!
californiadreamerkid 2 years ago 3
yeah 1.55 .. was thinking that exact same thing. wow, dodgy.
TPRoach 2 years ago
yeah...in the end is the indivdual.
Samperor 2 years ago
my guess in samurai vs, knight a samurai would win cus alot of knights just learn how to fight other people in full body armor.
sagejosh 2 years ago
haha a European knight!? please a Samurai would fucking run through a knight Samurai would be quicker plus they have better weaponry im sure a Claymore wouldn't be able to compete with a Katana plus the Samurai training was a lot more extensive then a knights
Redmond91 2 years ago
I don't know, katanas are powerful but could they cut through thick armor? I think a night with heavy armor and lots of battle field experience would probably a pretty powerful opponent.
Karascool 2 years ago
an european knight would eat a japaneze samurai for desert
TheAeroth 2 years ago
fanks
europeans knights and stuff would be to slow with there heavey armor
samurais would be to fast
chanmanwon 2 years ago
ahahaha silly kid! the katana is very good sword and samurai have excelent tehnique but an full plate armor knight whit a morning star or great sword would slice and dice a samurai no offence:)
TheAeroth 2 years ago
The kinght wouldn't be able to land a hit, he has to swing his sword to get a powerful hit, and if he's wearing full body armor, the helmet would screw up his sight.
flashzero92 2 years ago 2
you watch too much cartoons
TheAeroth 2 years ago
maybe i do.
Ha my friends name is seong!!
Seong Jae Moon.
Probably the best korean name.
flashzero92 2 years ago
Historian even says that a Samurai would most likely win against a knight,.
Samperor 2 years ago
what historian?
brreed82 2 years ago
in generals....but it all depends in the indivdual. They were all warrior after all. Whoever is better man wins.......
Samperor 2 years ago
historians in general say Samurai would win? Historians rarely enter into conjecture. Historians wouldnt say A Samurai would beat a Knight because they never fought, and existed in different times, using different weapons, armor, ect. developed specifically for their particular opponents. Dont say "historians in general say", when no historians even care.
brreed82 2 years ago
they are hystorians , not warriors !
zexeru 2 years ago
read the post below and I explain three times, by my opinion that in end it is the indivdual.....holy shit...
Samperor 2 years ago
not nesescaryly. you see samurais wore armor too on the battlefield, it's just that their armor was lighter a bit. suppose a knight could fight with a samurai the question is : where do they fight? on the street or on the battlefield? what weapons would they use? just swords? cos in most cases samurai warriors rode a horse on the battlefield and fought with a polearm like naginata or an odachi. it would have been a suicide for them to use a katana from the start, cos that was a street weapon.
LiutendantJack777 2 years ago
nah i think where just talking about common basic weapons
proper made strong katana
vs
european broad sword or watever the used
chanmanwon 2 years ago