It has become tradition for me to watch this once every year for the past five years hoping one day the girl in this video will reveal her identity and when that glorious day occurs we'll meet beyond the moon and the stars and swap Derrida essays.
Postmodernism doesn't say you don't have to obey the traffic light, so much as it says the obeying of a traffic light isn't an objective rule. The suicidal or murderous will see the traffic light as a rule to be broken and therefore as not a rule at all.
If you’re going to use that example then you must be consistent with your own world view. And if you were in the middle of a desert with a red light signal and if you want to avoid the truck then you must your logic and rationality which postmodernist say that it has lost its validity.
What was that thing about the degree of skepticism? My dictionary tells me its spelled scepticism but that just looks silly. It's not a sceptre, it's skepticism... it must have been a post-modernist who came up with that definition. Also the reflection of the guy in the TV who is filming this thing makes it seem like he doesn't have a camera.
I bet no one can be a postmodernist when the traffic signal turns red and you see a truck coming from the other side. If you don’t want to get hit by the truck you better believe the signal has objective meaning
The real question you ought to be asking is where that truck is if you ever get stranded in the desert behind a red light and don't know how you got there.
This isn't bad at all. And I mean bad in a subjective, unstable, diversified way. "All" does not refer to a universal, or some grand narrative, but is an attempt to inscribe in everybody the judgment about non-badness.
you fucking bitch...you are reading this shit off a notecard, you cant even pronounce "destabilizing" correctly. all of this, all of what you just read, is responsible for the garbage pile of a culture we have today. Fuck off.
Are we in the post-post-post-post-post modern stage yet? Maybe we can somehow jump to the pre-modern stage. Wouldn't that be nonsensical and ironic. There are no single truths, except the single truth I am giving you in declaring that there are no single truths...can we get over this already? No wonder this shit isn't taken seriously in top notch graduate philosophy programs.
Red lights conditionned by society's rules? No, I just dont want to die in the crazy trafic. Its not imposed its a convention that people have not to kill each other.
Nietzsche is not a postmodernist. What he said was meant to say "screw them all, do what you think is great for yourself".
Postmodernism gets you nowhere else other than in women and gay studies, and no serious departement. To bad gay rights and women equality are being defended by lame ass pseudo-scientists like post-modernists.
So... in simple English, it's like taking a hammer to your head, and then taking that hammer to social norms to be deconstructive because you despise normality of thought?
Sounds like a fad made up by a socially inept high school freshmen.
Postmodernism is one of the great enemies of the enlightenment and universal human rights. It has sought to attack the shining star of the modern world, namely science. It is a collection of pompous fools more concerned with big words than truth or justice.
true...but this post is laden with value-judgment than privileges 18th century thought...we are now in the 21st century...while some of the old ideas might be useful, there are also some that have been debunked...if you are a really value "reason", then you would be happy to move ahead and throw out the debunked ideas. i don't see post-modernism as against human rights, its against the teleological thinking resulting from modernism that actually is harmful to humans.
Wow, you can repeat what you read in a text book, mind trying to put it into regular language rather than sounding like a tool who just repeats what they read?
i think post modernism might be the result of our unprecedented ability to watch ourselves in real time through self reflective media; previously, we could only categorise an epoch many years after it had been defined in terms of its own future. Hence the confusion. No, I don't really believe this - I just thought it sounded a cool sort of thing to say. I'm sure you will agree.
But on a more important note, I find you to be *very* attractive...
People do not trust unquestionably authority, with its pushing of nutrient-deficient food along with, alcohol and tobacco. That results in putrified-feces, a fatty liver and cancer. When people which don't question authority suffer a painful-death, what kind of people will be left?
Evil meaning counter to what human life requires, which is an understanding of reality in order to cope with it, and to be able to gain all the values man seek from it.
So what you are saying is that if it opposes humans, its evil. I would say that subjectively humanistic. Does an elephant also have a concept of "evil?" I imagine they would think that "evil" is that which endangers elephant life.
No, because humans is the only species that is thinking in conceptual level.
However, there are certainly things which are against an elephant's life, and an elephant would do well if it avoids them.
I'm not sure I understand where you're getting at. We're humans, we want to further our own lives. If a philosophy (such as postmodernism) is bad for humans, then we may rightly regard it as evil. Do you have another standard by which we should measure our course of action?
You are making a HUGE assumption - that human intelligence is somehowe superior to that of other different kinds.
My suggestion is that you remove your standards, at least temporarily, so that you can see things from another point of view - perhaps a non-human point of view, or at least attempt to empathize with it.
Maybe not superior. But, to the best of our knowledge, inherently unique and different from that of an elephant's or any other animal for that matter. Not counting possible 'intelligent' life outside our planet.
Different yes. To say something is superior to something else is nothing more than a value-judgment. That is, you have to arbitrarily select what you will judge and then make up a standard to judge it by. In other words, to judge one thing as superior to another is completely subjective.
This was well done and coherrant- best Goo Tube vid on PokeModernism I've seen so far. It seems you're asserting that POSTmogulism is more a tactic than a philosophy.
You don't need to think to learn about post modernism... Postmoderinism is essentially non-thinking with no point of reference or standard whatsoever. And postmodernists, dont bother replying, this is just MY veiw, its not really bad, just a different idea then yours.
People who levy criticism at postmodernism tend to reduce it to childish banter, something incoherent and out of the mouth of a 'hash smoking hippie.' Is this because they refuse to take it seriously in order to never come to grips with it and refute it? It's so easy to deny something when you think it's silly drivel.
Ya, I know traffic lights are an artificial social construction meant to control the population. What's your point? Are you saying that we'd be better off if we just rammed into each other at every cross section?
I'm tired of post-modernists whining about how everything is 'oppressing' them. Traffic lights arn't some euro centric, rationalistic conspiracy. They are merely something we need to deal with if we are going to have cars and roads.
Just because something is random and incoherent (this woman's eccentricity while filming) does not make this postmodern. It would've been better if they tried harder.
You would have done a lot better by showing the camera and showing all the people reading from the script. The little stutters in speech are perfect. Showing the structure of the video itself is one of the many things that postmodernism postulates. Don't try and smooth out your mistakes. Explore and exaggerate them, realize that they're there and fix em'.
I think that this is a great video, but your "traffic light" introduction misses the mark. The fact that you are conditioned or not to obey the traffic light is not the domain of postmodernism. The red light signifies "stop." Postmodernism rejects giving this signification meaning-a rational human being can and will almost always stop at a traffic light nonetheless.
Why does a philosophy that doesn't even believe in "the objectivity of truth" need such a long winded definition?
The ancient philosophers understood that human achievements are limited to _approximations_ of reality. For example: The constant pi is frequently rounded to 3.14, a mere approximation of the true value. However this knowledge has been invaluable to us.
What is postmodernism really? Postmodernism is the DEATH of Art, Music, Science, Philosophy, and Civilization itself, no less.
Yeah it pretty retarded. Every one knows that exact measurements are only real in the abstract. I didn't need a Hash Smoking Flower Child to give me a dissertaion on it
Why would I obey the traffic light because I was "conditioned" by the "masses"? Why can't I instead obey the traffic light because I wanted to avoid an accident?
Intellectuality and women don't go hand in hand...
Fapsamup 1 month ago
It has become tradition for me to watch this once every year for the past five years hoping one day the girl in this video will reveal her identity and when that glorious day occurs we'll meet beyond the moon and the stars and swap Derrida essays.
thejobloshow 1 month ago
America is an experience and don't you forget it.
Gilbertoyaya 2 months ago
visit "freedomain radio" for truth
damonthemoney93 2 months ago
Postmodernist understanding of reality is so far fetched and unorthodox to even the most radical of belief systems nobody can fully explain it!
They have an unbelievable inability to convoy a linear thought and that is why I can't except anything they say.
Postmodern thought is such an abject failure that when it is fully embraced it ultimately breads apathy and a rejection of knowledge!
DaneStolthed 8 months ago
Postmodernism is contradiction for the sake of contradiction
aleidius192 8 months ago
@aleidius192 So true. It just makes me angry.
MrJdom24 3 months ago
Postmodernism doesn't say you don't have to obey the traffic light, so much as it says the obeying of a traffic light isn't an objective rule. The suicidal or murderous will see the traffic light as a rule to be broken and therefore as not a rule at all.
NearVSMello 9 months ago
If you’re going to use that example then you must be consistent with your own world view. And if you were in the middle of a desert with a red light signal and if you want to avoid the truck then you must your logic and rationality which postmodernist say that it has lost its validity.
BellalFaroqi 9 months ago
What was that thing about the degree of skepticism? My dictionary tells me its spelled scepticism but that just looks silly. It's not a sceptre, it's skepticism... it must have been a post-modernist who came up with that definition. Also the reflection of the guy in the TV who is filming this thing makes it seem like he doesn't have a camera.
666arzin 9 months ago
I bet no one can be a postmodernist when the traffic signal turns red and you see a truck coming from the other side. If you don’t want to get hit by the truck you better believe the signal has objective meaning
BellalFaroqi 10 months ago
@BellalFaroqi
The real question you ought to be asking is where that truck is if you ever get stranded in the desert behind a red light and don't know how you got there.
666arzin 9 months ago
hmm.....i swear the videos my teacher makes us watch...
TheRebekah317 11 months ago
it's taking social standards and fucking them in the ass
corruptedlink 1 year ago
the PUNKS always MOCK the PROGS. fuck the SLACKERS!!!!!
rgaleny 1 year ago
2010, and I still remember your video. Who are you rotey6 girl? What has become of you?
thejobloshow 1 year ago
how can dey call them call them selves post "modernists" loooooooool take the modernist part out and call it pre modernists
timetochilli 1 year ago
S if you hold post-modernism under it's own microscope, you find out it's not really true; it's only a cultural bias.
EVSjahms 1 year ago
This is pretty advant garde. The part with the two girls on the bench was funny.
Ear4Beauty 1 year ago
All this talk about postmodernism is completely irrelevant to what postmodernism is, but that's just like, my opinion, man.
Arejek 1 year ago
I hope you get hit by a car
mark224 1 year ago
This isn't bad at all. And I mean bad in a subjective, unstable, diversified way. "All" does not refer to a universal, or some grand narrative, but is an attempt to inscribe in everybody the judgment about non-badness.
socrates856 1 year ago
she pisses me off bigtime
TeriHearts 1 year ago
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AndyAce83 1 year ago
I wouldn't stop for the traffic light in the desert because I am logical.
DrDeist 1 year ago
@DrDeist : I should add that I probably would stop - to investigate what a traffic light was doing in the desert.
DrDeist 1 year ago
you fucking bitch...you are reading this shit off a notecard, you cant even pronounce "destabilizing" correctly. all of this, all of what you just read, is responsible for the garbage pile of a culture we have today. Fuck off.
richagatorp745 1 year ago
...FFFFFFFFFFF if you want to know post moderism... just look up the Memphis group on wiki.. thats post modernism...
MrMeemo20 1 year ago
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
the finishing scene "As soon as you flush the toilet you're in the middle of ideology."? Zizek?
Amoebe667 1 year ago
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the finishing scene "As soon as you flush the toilet you're in the middle of ideology."? Zizek?
Amoebe667 1 year ago
the finishing scene "As soon as you flush the toilet you're in the middle of ideology."? Zizek?
Amoebe667 1 year ago
great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drkthms1 1 year ago
lolong man u guys are canadian
cunt3d 1 year ago
Thanks for this.
crackityjones777 1 year ago
WTF is this bitch talking about? If I saw a red light in a desert I'd just keep driving.
DaveDoggOwns 1 year ago
Are we in the post-post-post-post-post modern stage yet? Maybe we can somehow jump to the pre-modern stage. Wouldn't that be nonsensical and ironic. There are no single truths, except the single truth I am giving you in declaring that there are no single truths...can we get over this already? No wonder this shit isn't taken seriously in top notch graduate philosophy programs.
SweetRandal 2 years ago
Correct info. Terrible delivery
tommyk77 2 years ago
Somebody spent a lot of time hanging around the art building on campus. I wonder if she has started dabbling in Wicca yet.
71savages 2 years ago 3
Revaluation of all values is key. Good description.
uwillalldie 2 years ago
i wouldn't stop in the desert
id take my pants off and run around screaming
gloryfades107 2 years ago
This was one of the first videos I favourited on YouTube... I bet this girl is hotter now.
thejobloshow 2 years ago
@thejobloshow And probably nuttier!
nightmareofsolomon 2 years ago
Red lights conditionned by society's rules? No, I just dont want to die in the crazy trafic. Its not imposed its a convention that people have not to kill each other.
Nietzsche is not a postmodernist. What he said was meant to say "screw them all, do what you think is great for yourself".
Postmodernism gets you nowhere else other than in women and gay studies, and no serious departement. To bad gay rights and women equality are being defended by lame ass pseudo-scientists like post-modernists.
OLDmanOFscene24 2 years ago
You mispronounced Nietzsche BTW
BipedalHumanoid 2 years ago
postmodernism is a crock of shit
BipedalHumanoid 2 years ago
best explanation ive heard yet!
great vid.
-bri
alienaesthetic 2 years ago
Postmodernism makes me lol.
ViaHope 2 years ago 6
So... in simple English, it's like taking a hammer to your head, and then taking that hammer to social norms to be deconstructive because you despise normality of thought?
Sounds like a fad made up by a socially inept high school freshmen.
Zairik 3 years ago
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Zairik 3 years ago
Postmodernism is one of the great enemies of the enlightenment and universal human rights. It has sought to attack the shining star of the modern world, namely science. It is a collection of pompous fools more concerned with big words than truth or justice.
DarwinsGarden 3 years ago
true...but this post is laden with value-judgment than privileges 18th century thought...we are now in the 21st century...while some of the old ideas might be useful, there are also some that have been debunked...if you are a really value "reason", then you would be happy to move ahead and throw out the debunked ideas. i don't see post-modernism as against human rights, its against the teleological thinking resulting from modernism that actually is harmful to humans.
DerangedRanger1 3 years ago
Wow, you can repeat what you read in a text book, mind trying to put it into regular language rather than sounding like a tool who just repeats what they read?
mysteriousyoungman 3 years ago
Hey, you have the right to be post-modernistic as you like.....just don't try to take me along with you. Good like on your journey to whatever.
wildnites558 3 years ago
good like on you speakwrite english. superfantastic
shipmanjd 3 years ago
Ahhhh, but script beaver castle modify fenestration serendiptiy taught! Right?
wildnites558 3 years ago
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SamuraiDoushi 2 years ago
Thanks for the video. I would argue about the worth of postmodernism, but you might not agree. Hell, I might not even agree.
brokensunlight 3 years ago
i think post modernism might be the result of our unprecedented ability to watch ourselves in real time through self reflective media; previously, we could only categorise an epoch many years after it had been defined in terms of its own future. Hence the confusion. No, I don't really believe this - I just thought it sounded a cool sort of thing to say. I'm sure you will agree.
But on a more important note, I find you to be *very* attractive...
thesublimemoment 3 years ago 2
People do not trust unquestionably authority, with its pushing of nutrient-deficient food along with, alcohol and tobacco. That results in putrified-feces, a fatty liver and cancer. When people which don't question authority suffer a painful-death, what kind of people will be left?
brentpieczynski 3 years ago
Horrible video, about a horrible subject that's evil and corrupt.
NotThat3 3 years ago
Evil meaning what? Different from your beliefs?
DerangedRanger1 3 years ago
Evil meaning counter to what human life requires, which is an understanding of reality in order to cope with it, and to be able to gain all the values man seek from it.
NotThat3 3 years ago
So what you are saying is that if it opposes humans, its evil. I would say that subjectively humanistic. Does an elephant also have a concept of "evil?" I imagine they would think that "evil" is that which endangers elephant life.
DerangedRanger1 3 years ago
No, because humans is the only species that is thinking in conceptual level.
However, there are certainly things which are against an elephant's life, and an elephant would do well if it avoids them.
I'm not sure I understand where you're getting at. We're humans, we want to further our own lives. If a philosophy (such as postmodernism) is bad for humans, then we may rightly regard it as evil. Do you have another standard by which we should measure our course of action?
NotThat3 3 years ago
You are making a HUGE assumption - that human intelligence is somehowe superior to that of other different kinds.
My suggestion is that you remove your standards, at least temporarily, so that you can see things from another point of view - perhaps a non-human point of view, or at least attempt to empathize with it.
DerangedRanger1 3 years ago
Maybe not superior. But, to the best of our knowledge, inherently unique and different from that of an elephant's or any other animal for that matter. Not counting possible 'intelligent' life outside our planet.
SamuraiDoushi 2 years ago
Different yes. To say something is superior to something else is nothing more than a value-judgment. That is, you have to arbitrarily select what you will judge and then make up a standard to judge it by. In other words, to judge one thing as superior to another is completely subjective.
DerangedRanger1 2 years ago
This was well done and coherrant- best Goo Tube vid on PokeModernism I've seen so far. It seems you're asserting that POSTmogulism is more a tactic than a philosophy.
PeeteyP 3 years ago
Hippies+drugs+drugs+drugs=postmodernism
razorflown 3 years ago
You don't need to think to learn about post modernism... Postmoderinism is essentially non-thinking with no point of reference or standard whatsoever. And postmodernists, dont bother replying, this is just MY veiw, its not really bad, just a different idea then yours.
braino2000 3 years ago
People who levy criticism at postmodernism tend to reduce it to childish banter, something incoherent and out of the mouth of a 'hash smoking hippie.' Is this because they refuse to take it seriously in order to never come to grips with it and refute it? It's so easy to deny something when you think it's silly drivel.
wushugushupork 3 years ago
Freakin lame.
Do you think learning lines and saying them fast makes you sound intelligent?
Or perhaps your turtle neck was supposed to do it for us?
emmaschoona 3 years ago
Ya, I know traffic lights are an artificial social construction meant to control the population. What's your point? Are you saying that we'd be better off if we just rammed into each other at every cross section?
I'm tired of post-modernists whining about how everything is 'oppressing' them. Traffic lights arn't some euro centric, rationalistic conspiracy. They are merely something we need to deal with if we are going to have cars and roads.
jacobins3000 3 years ago
Just because something is random and incoherent (this woman's eccentricity while filming) does not make this postmodern. It would've been better if they tried harder.
In my opinion.
geistgreystone 3 years ago
Funny.
I never stop st stop signs on Country roads, and I hate postmodernism.
Postmodernist = Hash smoking new ager. Flower Child. Hippie
sunstorm007 3 years ago
you are ignorant :)
theWILLtoPOW3R 3 years ago
Wow that's a real intellectual reply of you Mr. Nietzsche.
Care to give a reason why you think I am ignorant ?
Care to explain to me the deep subtleties of this video?
Enlighten me, I beg you?
sunstorm007 3 years ago
k :)
theWILLtoPOW3R 3 years ago
Like I thought, you have nothing to say.
Unless that's some Postmodern Answer that I don't have the acumen for.
I think stare at the wall a meditate on that answer for a while and smoke a bowl and drop acid
sunstorm007 3 years ago
(: all it said you
theWILLtoPOW3R 3 years ago
Chili cheese sauce in your mouth, sunstorm.
bmdante 3 years ago
You would have done a lot better by showing the camera and showing all the people reading from the script. The little stutters in speech are perfect. Showing the structure of the video itself is one of the many things that postmodernism postulates. Don't try and smooth out your mistakes. Explore and exaggerate them, realize that they're there and fix em'.
toadhorner 3 years ago
But fixing mistakes is an evil social convention!
nightmareofsolomon 2 years ago
I think that this is a great video, but your "traffic light" introduction misses the mark. The fact that you are conditioned or not to obey the traffic light is not the domain of postmodernism. The red light signifies "stop." Postmodernism rejects giving this signification meaning-a rational human being can and will almost always stop at a traffic light nonetheless.
simulshoe 3 years ago
Why does a philosophy that doesn't even believe in "the objectivity of truth" need such a long winded definition?
The ancient philosophers understood that human achievements are limited to _approximations_ of reality. For example: The constant pi is frequently rounded to 3.14, a mere approximation of the true value. However this knowledge has been invaluable to us.
What is postmodernism really? Postmodernism is the DEATH of Art, Music, Science, Philosophy, and Civilization itself, no less.
LokarMD 4 years ago
Yeah it pretty retarded. Every one knows that exact measurements are only real in the abstract. I didn't need a Hash Smoking Flower Child to give me a dissertaion on it
sunstorm007 3 years ago
I am a slave to the traffic light.
Didache11 4 years ago
"Learn about postmodernism without thinking"
Yep, that pretty much sums up postmodernism.
PCScipio 4 years ago
...and postmodernism is nihilism with catchy marketing. ;-)
dirkm97 4 years ago
Why would I obey the traffic light because I was "conditioned" by the "masses"? Why can't I instead obey the traffic light because I wanted to avoid an accident?
3rdWorldCrusader 4 years ago 2
I haven't seen this in a while. It's still a great video.
thejobloshow 4 years ago
If its all about going through trafic lights then Turkey is a leader of post-modernist thought.
2cabs2toucan 4 years ago 7
That was cool, nice work - search "Jerry Jean modern" in youtube and there is another quirky postmodern video...
Tahniko 4 years ago
It sounds like she's just reading big words from a script!
Try some "emotion"!
Be more than just a cute face!
professionallynasty 4 years ago
Hey the chic talking about postmodernism is kinda cute. I guess since I'm a sulking existentialist- I'm kind of like a postmodernist.
bpope123 4 years ago
I SAW THIS IS PHILOSOPHY CLASS....and it changed my life!!!
helldog00 4 years ago
Really? This tripe is what changed your life?
nightmareofsolomon 2 years ago
love this..whos the girl? shes cool
hebaandsis 4 years ago
Ahaha, Now I know all that i need to know about post-modernism
pmiddy19 5 years ago
that video was strange but you should be my girlfriend.
fasdl 5 years ago