Enlightenment in 8 Seconds

[Jaylin157]

observe animals, they have the presence we're trying to attain

[stephen52100]

Yep. Then when I started thinking, it got in my way of the presence. Since that time I yearn, but know I don't have to seek it because it is me. God within.

[rogermercader]

Thank you. All my apreciation for this video and you. Exactly what I needed right now.

Much love.

[ReefFrog]

And is it a "you" or a "me" who figures this out?

[hozho1]

@ReefFrog Everything, not just the stuff of this video, is seen before thought enters the experience. Notice that and realize nothing can be changed because when we are identified as thought, every thing has already happened.

[claytonfairn]

its not a question of before and after, awakening or liberation is just a word to describe what "happens" when no concept is taken as more than a concept anymore. simple as that The problem is we tend to need one final truth to hold on to hold on to like everything is oneness or something. The concept of belief itself is the problem, to believe something you cant know it for sure otherwise you wouldnt have to believe it. check out my vid "nonduality and belief".

[swingtrade2]

question hozho:

was there an aha?

[culturacolombia]

Your ego thinks it has enlight , have you ever been in the presence of a pure being with no thoughts about politics ,Enlightenment or any type of material conquest ?

[hozho1]

@culturacolombia Nice to know that you know me. And yes I have been with such a person.

[culturacolombia]

@hozho1 Is it the same or similiar to BE at present than to BE enlight or in samadhi ?

[hozho1]

@culturacolombia No person is ever enlightened. The person - mind - body are all of the body. Presence is that which sees everything and it is not dependent on any state of mind, which is of the body.

[culturacolombia]

@hozho1 It could be that being enlight is when you feel that you are the breath , that could be why many people get tired after long talks ? Who knows , we all have a body to experiment , being and observant means not relating with your material body and being more in touch with the etheric one .

Have a great day .

[kingofmilwaukee6969]

So when you are ranting about politics, which you do 24/7, is it thought or presence?

[hozho1]

@kingofmilwaukee6969 You overestimate me. I rant about politics only 24/5. Weekends are dedicated to time on my yacht.

[kingofmilwaukee6969]

@hozho1 Well that is progress. Hopefully the Left allows you to keep the yacht when they "fix" the "problem" of too many rich people.

[rodrigojoseunb]

Duuuude. Very good, cut and dry definition.

[empty0grace]

Can presence ever follow thought? I doubt you meant this literally, though it might appear so to the confused intelligence/buddhi. Still, there is a kind of cognitive awakening, more shallow than the full, that admits the truth you speak of, and fnds itself behind or at the center of the mind. But deeper still there is a breaking open from the root of the heart, which also fits your description, and which finds itself as the center of all experience. best wishes, Daniel

[screwedupsomewhere]

THIS GUY ISNT FUCKIN CRAZY! its just hard to understand what hes saying

[uuusmar]

nicely put, thanks

[grrrrr3x6]

there's a little problem:

does awakening even accept it's none-ness?

. . .

and far down the list:

how can people like you and me prevent that what we say is used like yet another separating thought?

something to "learn" or to acquire?

from becomeing spiritual STUFF ?

[hozho1]

@grrrrr3x6

Thanks for your comment.

The body/self is just another object and one that is especially interesting. Why not just open your heart to that? In that way, the heart opens to itself.

[grrrrr3x6]

@hozho1

lots of "thoughts"

1. you didn't answer my question

2. what does the slash ("/") mean between body and self

3. don't you sometimes wish we weren't all one?



[hozho1]

@grrrrr3x6 Awakening and acceptance are two different worlds. Only the body/mind accepts or rejects. They are both mere filters on the flow of perception. While they appear as opposites within the construct of the mind, they are just 'event's' from the perspective of awareness.

The "/" between body and self was merely a unifier. I suspect you're locked into thinking.

We are not all one. Are you and I identical. There is a paradox here, which the mind has a hard time wrapping itself around.

[hozho1]

@hozho1

The paradox is this: We are absolutely unique in every moment and we absolutely one in every moment.

[grrrrr3x6]

Dear hozho1, (I don't know either)

I preferred the 8 seconds, and even there, the first one was the best, then you "fixed" it.

[hozho1]

@grrrrr3x6

Yeah - we get caught in the web of words, but that doesn't have to be a problem, unless we BELIEVE that it is.

[DacXIXVerde]

auch! my brain hurts... thank you !

[DancingET]

Damn, that was quick. Since the now is more important than thoughts, I'm gonna jump in a jar of coffee!

Gnneuuhh...SPlash!!

-ET

[hozho1]

@DancingET Well said!

[eaglerock999]

you are the gap,the awareness,between thoughts,learn to prolong it,then Awareness becomes aware of itself,and a highly enjoyable inner peace.

[hozho1]

@eaglerock999 Nope! The you that would want to prolong this gap is trying to get somewhere he isn't. Just one more deadend.

[eaglerock999]

@hozho1 Language fails again...there is no "you" just awareness.awareness just is, it isnt an object to find.

awareness "prolongs" itself, by becoming aware of itself,the eternal Now, that is true meditation ,that is "my " experience. language cannot explain it.

[Ronztrek]

Yes, this defines a portion of the state, but not how to achieve it. In a nutshell: No meditation nor practice is necessary. Nope. Just the realisation 'that you do not exist'. Seeing through the lie of self; no-self is the threshold to enlightenment. This only takes 10 minutes. Not of thinking about it. But rather, looking for self and seeing that the self is not present. Not in any way or from any angle. Direct experience. Direct seeing. No beliefs. Only Truth!

[aragys]

gujucheap no very often but I say I experiment this lots of times in my life first no ego u surrender to everything, not judging with that u can reach freedom in ur soul that let u be aware of the universe that in a specific contest u could be aware of precenses

[reddypraveen]

I have one too.. You, I,and all of us are spiritual beings here to experience and teach one another the greatest emotion, gift from god. Pick one and share it....

[DieTheDeath]

there is no awakened "state"

[fishybishbash]

@DieTheDeath the awakened state is that which is fully aware of consciousness.

[clandestine6760]

Sadly, intellectual knowledge alone, won't make you enlightened.

[hozho1]

@clandestine6760

No, but seeing the false needs to start somewhere.

[mariob003]

@clandestine6760 your comment actually made the universe in me laugh for a moment.. there was nobody laughing.. just the realisation of that truth :) thank you

[Jimsterr]

Yeah I get it, and notice how all these "mind" posts have to respond to the video with more than one sentence, lol!

[rodfrost3]

i like what your saying , makes me feel actually of though the foot in air vs the foot on the ground. ( my thoughts are fatiguing , time for contact )

[rodfrost3]

sleep is important, but i guess its alot like a driver uses the break vs the gas pedal the shores even breath

[TadRapidly]

Here's another quick, one way ticket to Satori-City for all you KoanHeads out there: ...In order for an object to stand out as "separate" there has to be space around it, right? You are the space around objects. Now..., of course, bankers are stealing everything in sight with approval from the government while we're concerning ourselves with this stuff so make sure you don't end up in palookaville on your way to nirvana. "Gold was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for us".

[brixism]

Awesome

[GeorgeGogle]

What this man is saying in video is true - when we talk about our very existence. The core is that in order to act correctly we do not need an assistance of a thought. We are capable of making decisions without thinking, - just by that inner "gut feeling", or intuition, etc. This must be our infinite awareness/presence, which we in fact are. However this doesnt exclude the validity of a thought, when it is needed. The point is to always be aware of what is going inside your mind or outside of it

[wsdreig]

In the awakened state thought and presence have no distinction. Nothing is first.

[gujjucheap]

yeh but who the hell has ever experienced this?

[hozho1]

It might take years of preparatory work or it might not, but many people have. It is generally not sustainable until one has seen through the veil of the thinking self.

[nuclearpsyche]

Very effective! Thanks =)

[kasuskasus]

Good stuff, Hozho! I tried to do something similar last day concerning suffering, trying to hammer it down to just 3 points:

1: Because you misconcieve everything as inherently existent you suffer.

2: By sowing seeds of Reason/Logic, Concentration and Morality you destroy the misconception of inherent existence.

3: You then concieve things in the correct way, as empty, and suffering becomes impossible.

You were quicker, though!

[hozho1]

Thanks - kasuskasus!

Regarding your points - here is a potential summary :

The self is compelled to BE something. To BE something - the universe must consist of separate things that can be possessed - evaluated - used - whatever.

The urge to BE (which must originate from a position of NOT BEING) is the prime engine. Thus the person who yearns for "enlightenment" yearns to BE from the position of NOT BEING. This is the prime fallacy.

So: We ARE prior to the conception of NOT BEING See that.

[BesACB]

I want to become something. Who is that I that wants to become something? The yearning appears somewhere, but that somewhere is not really a place nor is it an individual. And it would be lessened if it BECAME someone, which it only apparently does. At the very outset of desire, at the root, in the seed, lies its fulfilment.

Does that sound sufficiently oracular?:)

[hozho1]

The yearning is the pointer to the authentic self, but the I that wants to become something is a somewhat distorted "echo" from the authentic self, that feels that you are not living your authentic life. Your authentic self lives beneath of the psychological thoughts that I connected to achieve in a way that seeks to disprove your insufficiency, inadequacy, and unlovability.

[cybervigilante]

That's too simple.

You need to start a church, give endless disquisitions, and have acolytes puzzle at your wisdomous confabulations ;') (Osho-style)

Good consideration, though. Easy to remember. No chants, funny poses, or Kenwilberian cosmic ideas.

This is way too easy - it will never catch on. And who would I pay? Ours is a capitalist society. Don't I have to send gobs of money somewhere?

Come on? Surely there is some Secret Teaching. Some revelation given only to the Inner Group

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[DontFearNeoIsHere]

how enlightened of you! seriously, made me smile. =)

[hozho1]

Thank you! Seriously - smiling is, in nearly all cases, more evolved than seriousness - seriously!

[hozho1]

Hey I paid big time to get to the point of absolute meaninglessness. The ego/self is consumed with being something - anything. Awareness without ANY need to become anything, but what it is, contains the whole proverbial ball of wax.