@thenorthfacetrek Well, as an athlete, Lord Coe excelled at TWO different (Olympic) distances: 800 metres AND 1500 metres. Kipketer, on the other hand, was always considered to be an 800 specialist; his personal best time for the longer distance was WAY slower than Coe's. In fact, he seldom competed in 1500m or mile races at international level.
Lord Coe and Mr Kipketer both competed in two Olympic Games (not the same two, obviously). Coe won four Olympic medals; Gold at 1500m in Moscow,
@thenorthfacetrek [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about Sebastian Coe and Wilson Kipketer]: 1980; Gold at 1500m (again) four years later, in Los Angeles; Silver at 800m in Moscow, 1980, and Silver at 800 (again) in LA, 1984. Mr Kipketer - who succeeded him as the world record holder in the two lap event - won two Olympic medals during the course of his lengthy and distinguished career: Silver at 800m in Sydney in the year 2000, and bronze at 800m four years later, in Athens.
@cmartinrun The 800 metres is soooooooo not a sprint ! David Rudisha is a fabulous athlete - one of the greatest half-milers that has ever lived - but if you lined him up against Usain Bolt, Yohan Blake,Tyson Gay and four of the world's other top fast men, in a 100 (or 200) metres dash, he would be beaten by a proverbial street or two. I do not know what Mr Rudisha's personal best time (for the 100m) is ... but it is likely to be more than a full second outside the 6 foot 5" Jamaican
@cmartinrun [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about David Rudisha]: speedster's personal best (and world record) of 9.58. In a race as short as the 100 metres sprint, a time differential of one full second is vast. In other words, a man who is capable - on top form - of sprinting that distance in 10.00 seconds flat is in a completely different league, so to speak, from a man who - at his best - is an 11.00 second 100 metres sprinter.
@cmartinrun has repeatedly demonstrated that he is a great athlete. In fact, Mr Rudisha may well have a talent which is as rare and as remarkable as Mr Bolt's ... but one of those gentlemen excels at sprinting, whilst the other excels at 800 metre running. Imho, it would be invidious - and churlish - to claim that one of those two super-talented sportsmen is a greater athlete than the other.
@Bakuhatsu233 I would certainly agree that the 800 metres is an event for real men; it requires a combination of physical qualities, including speed endurance, pure speed, pure endurance and a high degree of strengh/power in relation to bodyweight. Of these physical qualities, the most important - for an 800 metres runner - is speed endurance.
In order to excel as a half-miler, an athlete also needs to have certain other attributes; one of which is MENTAL toughness/hardness.
@TheRubio14 they are 'rabbits' the pacers for the potential winners. Sometimes there are 1-3 rabbits usually 2 i believe? 1 for the 400m mark and other for the 600m mark
@dagda16 Height doesn't come into it - Coe was significantly shorter than Kipketer and was able to run 1.41.73 back in 1981 - i.e. when training methods were more primitive and injury treatments were not as good. To be honest, there is very little difference between all three of them, - they've all run between 1.41 and 1.42. Express one second difference as a percentage of 102 seconds and obviously it's less than 1%.
@owenp123 Good points. Coe was 5'9", Kipketer was taller (around 5'11" ) & Rudisha is what, 6'2"? I think the most significant thing is the improvement in track surfaces. The track Coe ran in Florence was an old one then! He also ran wide on the bend which would have added c 0.2 to his time. Take that off and give him a super fast mondo track of today, and he'd have run 1:41.0 then, 29 years ago. You're right, there is little between them.
@deano27671 Dean I have been with the great man on the track and he is nowhere near 5'11". More like 5'9". In fact if you look at the pic when Wilson got together with Seb, Rudisha and Juantorena you can see that Seb and Wilson are almost the same height.
@iMaDeMoN2012 Sorry I ran out of charachters. Wilson is the greatest 800m runner ever, Coe was the greatest middle distance runner ever. You need to make this distinction.
@iMaDeMoN2012 Yes Coe did set the bar very high. Thats why it took 16 years for someone to jump over the bar. That someone was Wilson Kipketer. He didnt just scrape the bar and leave it wobbling he cleared by a good half second. In fact Wilson set bar that high that in 15 years only a tenth of a second has been taken off his prev WR. Yes Coe could have run faster if he concentrated on the 800m and had paced races and Wilson could of gone faste rtoo if he didnt get malaria. Probably 140.8 or so.
@newromantic888 As I said these guys really haven't bested his performance they have only matched it. This is not an indoor 60m dash run in lanes. Every race is unique, time only an approximate measure. I'm not talking about what ifs. We usually acknowledgment when a new bar is set, for example when banister broke 4:00 minutes. These faction of a second drops don't merit crowning a new champion. You can't rediscover Mount Everest.
@iMaDeMoN2012 We should and can talk about what ifs when it comes to Seb because its all a case of what could have and should have been. However when its all said end done its Wilson who is the one with the stellar record.Its all on paper no ifs or buts. Seb may have been the first to climb Everest but Wilson was the first on the moon.
@newromantic888 NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO... That is exactly wrong! Sebastian is Neil Armstrong. Wilson is buzz Aldrin. The moon is the moon. Moon == 1.41
@iMaDeMoN2012 Agree with you, with respect to newromantic888. Coe was SO far ahead of the rest of the world, 1.71 s to be correct, when he broke the WR in 81. The next fastest that year was Cruz & Beyer at 1:44.3. It then took 16 years &many repeated efforts by Kip before Coe's record was beaten. Coe attempted only 1 fast race in early June (it wasn't even a WR attempt), then ran to win or chase Mile WR later. Had he not ran wide to pass rabbit, it would have been 1:41.5.
Kip took many carefully orchestrated attempts throughout the summers of 96 & 97 to finally equal then beat it. Take Coe from 81 and place him on a faster track against Kip at the height of summer, I think Coe would win more often. He had a faster change of pace than Kip. Coe was not only the first to go sub 1:42, he was also the first to go sub 1:43. Only 2 men have in essence run no faster than 0.5 sec better than Coe in over 30 years. Coe's run was Beamonesque.
@DAMOEAIN Yes Coe was brilliant over 800m. He took the distance a new dimension and showed what was truely possible. However statistics show that Wilson lowered Coes 16 year standing mark by over half a second setting record that stood for 14 years, won 3 World Championships, an Olympic Silver and Bronze, has four of the 10 fastest times ever, 8 of the 20 fastest times ever,, 4 times under 142 more than anyone else, still holds the 800m indoor WR.
Oh, I am sure, they are not. They are only managed by a certain Dutch individual with scandalous reputation, whose athletes repeatedly tested positive on banned substances. But that means nothing.
i mean< all those guys were almost under 1:44 in the SAME race, where do you see that nowadays, you would be lucky to see one guy under 1:44..somethings a lil fishy
@jolteon43 ahh i see, good job! i dropped 30 seconds off my mile time durring cross country training, so i have high hopes from my 800 this track season :)
@jolteon43 sweet! yeah, the xc season finished about a month ago here in the US. my school's team got 2nd in state, but our top runner had the flu (but still placed top 10) good luck in nationals!
@narutorox85 If you think about it, nationals would be about equal to state meets here considering the size of Portugal. Even so, anything above a 2:04 as a 15/16 year old would be considered fairly slow at my school.
@RaiseTheUnderground What the fuck are you talking about? Assuming you are talking about the US, there is no way 2:04 would even get you into emerging elite at nationals.
@mrlogic4u you obviously never ran a race in your life. I ran 1:50 in college and decided not to pursue a running career after graduation. Training produces 1:41, not dope. There is not a substance in the world that can replace training, PERIOD. I ran in a race with American great Jim Spivey in 1991 and he ran 1:46 in that race, crossing the line, showing no fatigue. Gee, was Spivey a "doper" too? Or Nick Symmonds with his amazing finishing speed? Whatever, man.
Hey mate, no offence but you are a little off the mark. No one is suggesting you don't need to train in order to run 1.41, nor is anyone suggesting you can just simply take drugs and become a 1.41 runner. The sad reality is many track world records are the result of brutal training which can only be sustained by drug use. Now I am not saying Kipketer is a cheat, but I guess I would rearrange your statement and say dope produces the training that produces xxx.xx time...
@smooveXXX Congrats on your 1:46. Sure, dope would produce times to garner some curiosity. I challenged a statement that offered no factual evidence to suggest Kipketer was doping. It seems critics today question every time out there. I would say improved training, attention to diet, and the opportunity to run professionally affords athletes more time to train. I remember reading about Peter Elliot having a day job so he wouldn't "crack up", as he put it, sitting around. 1:46.1, right on.
And this is coming from someone that ran 1.46.1 clean and I can tell you that would have been a lot faster if my mum had raised me the wrong way and I had ever wanted to use drugs.
@sessionmessiah eeehhrrm, no, no it doesn't. Where did I claim that? I did what I did and with performance enhancing drugs may have been capable of running 1.44.0. Who knows, I never tried. One thing I do know is that either you struggle in reading and comprehension or are just a douche. Most probably all three things combined...
@mrlogic4u Now it is quite clear, unfortunately. All the "genetic marvels" from the era between 1995-1998 were simply EPO cheaters. Now the performances in the 800/1500 m returned 25 years back, and in longer distances, the times have fallen as well.
@mrlogic4u Ur a fking idiot... Running is the only sport that you cannot possibly cheat at. Caffine makes ur heart explode, steroids slow u down, drugs would kill someone with that slow of a heart rate. You're just an idiot. Kipketer is the fastest this world has ever and will ever see. End game m8, pick yourself up and gtfo.
@oxfordkingpin24 Fail. Steroids increase muscle mass, but in distance running VO2 efficiency is way more important than muscle mass. Steroids would slow you down if anything.
@narutorox85 not really, steroids don't increase muscle mass, they just allow the body to work harder with less recovery. For example instead of say benching 10x100kg every 15 minutes, you might do 12x100kg every 11 minutes.
its just when they are used for strength that you build up muscle
@wolfdog45 So does that mean that steroids could be considered to increase VO2 efficiency? I had always heard that they only help for shorter distances, but if what you say is true then maybe not.
@narutorox85 they can improve VO2 max through through a greater volume high intensity training, steroids on their own dont make you musclely, if you take steroids but do no exercise then all that happens is you get fat
@oxfordkingpin24 You're kidding right? steroids cause you to weigh more which scientifically slows you. and doping is extremely obvious because your oxygen levels are insane. You can't cheat and get away from it.
wtf he doesnt even look tired whatsoever after.... not displaying any of the signs some one normally does when they run the 800 really hard.... arms up not bent over at all, not on the ground collapsed lol he just goes right into celebrating? Mysterioussss
a skill the 800m runner needs is being able to relax while running and kipketer displays that incredibly easily. his body is just so accustomed to being able to relax at speeds like that and hes so accustomed to the pain of the 800m that it doesnt affect him as much anymore. if u look at other proffesional 800m runners they dont look tired after their races either
Coryman... Let me guess, you were a highly acclaimed runner in high school but couldn't handle the international competition in and after college? What were you a 4:30 miler, like the rest of them? Don't hate the player, hate the game. Go post on some barry bonds videos or something, track is way to intellectual for this banter.
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It's funny that Kipketer's coach Slawomir Nowak was recently exposed as a drunker sexually harassing his athletes. This only shows, what a scum was involved in this EPO fraud.
Ok so Wilson ex coach gets drunk...........wow. We all do sometimes. Ok he pinched a chicks ass. He is a man he likes women. I do.......do you. How can u connect such a recent event event with 12 years ago. Man u are making things up. Go and bust all the womens records first before u come around to my neck of the woods. Start with Flo Jo.
Yes, I still don't know the miraculous training methods that can change a sub-mediocre 400 m sprinter into an 800 m world record candidate within one year.
Kipketer ran 1:45, whe he was (reportedly) 21 years old. There are many 800 m runners, who run these or even better times at this age, but only few get under 1:42,50 and not many under 1:43 within the next 5 years.
I think that many people already sobered up from the mythology of "African natural wonders" and understand that a significant portion of these natural wonders from late 90's were simply EPO-cheats. The case of Pamela Jelimo should serve as a blatant recent example.
Are you imputing that Pamela was a drug cheat! Her poor showing is simply letting success get in the way of proper training. Remind me gain about the difference now and in the 90's as it regards to who is dominating the tarck fro 800m to the marathon. You must be jocking friend!
And you really think that she isn't a drug cheat? Someone running 55 sec. in the 400 m and another year attacking the world record in the 800 m? Oh, I forgot - she is a genetic marvel from Africa! Only an African woman can improve from 2:01 to 1:54 within four months! Or the better tests on CERA work really better?
When your young improvement does come quickly sometimes. Obviously 400m was not her best distance and I dont see many Kenyan 400m champions out there. 800m is her natural distance. Africans a simply genetically better designed to run than us whities. So calm down and accept it.
"Obviously"? You know a quartermiler, who runs 49x in the 400 m and next year, he attacks the world record in the 800 m? Are you serious? Or do you simply want to ridicule yourself?
The whole African generation with the stellar times beginning in 1995 ran on EPO! The whole track has been devastated by "African genetic marvels" running on EPO! One of the biggest charades in the history of sport!
The times now gradually return to the normal range, 15 years back, as WADA has been successfully fighting blood doping during the recent years. As a result, North Africans have almost completely disappeared from top positions in track. Mourhit, Boulami, Ramzi, Kaouch, Saidi-Sief, Chouki, Hachlaf - one "genetic marvel" after another has been caught since the first EPO test was introduced in 2000.
Simon Kemboi, the member of the famous Kenyan relay team around Samson Kitur, was caught immediately in 2000. Pamela Chepchumba, a female runner from the most famous Kenyan and Ethiopian training group led by the Italian "dottore" Gabrielle Rosa, was caught in 2003. Do you believe that the rest of Rosa's group are natural talents?
Yego, Bekele (brother of Kenenisa Bekele), Wanjiru, Jepkosgei, Tergat, Kamathi - virtually the whole elite of today's track is in Rosa's team, many of them with incredible improvements after years of stagnation.
Look at yearlists from 1994-1997 and the sudden flood of Moroccans, Kenyans and Ethiopians, virtually OVER A SINGLE WINTER OF 1995-96. You can recite the cheats' names from the lists with ease.
This year in the spring, a sport manager was arrested by police in Austria, because he supplied EPO to athletes. According to press, his training group includes athletes "mainly from Kenya".
Well, but I shouldn't disturb you from your clear vision of the world.
Recite 100-times a day: Kenyans are clean natural wonders! Kenyans are clean natural wonders! Kenyans are clean natural wonders!
Kenyans are natural wonders..................sure some like all other ethnic groups have abused drugs EPO or steroids or human growth hormone. Sure. Why are u posting on Wilsons WR though. EPO and 800m dont really mix. Did u study pyhisiology at school at all.
Don't teach me about physiology, mister. 800 m is 50-60% aerobic, and thus quite influencable by EPO. The improvement can't be as high as in longer distances, and that's the reason, why we haven't seen more Kenyans running such ridiculous times like Topper-doper Kipketer. In fact, his passion to break Coe's WR may have led to EPO overdose, which can explain his "malaria" after the stellar season of 1997.
What about the East European women. 400m/800m. What about the womens 100m/200m WR. Lets look into these as well. I know where u are coming from and u are obviously very knowledgeable. But here u are barking up the wrong tree. Dont group Wilson with the other Kenyans.
The same. Look, who was in the group of Jos Hermens, the manager of other dopers Gebreselassie and Bekele: Gabriela Szabo, Nils Schumann and Hezekiel Sepeng. Prominent names both from Africa and Europe. Track has been filled with EPO dopers since mid 90's, similarly like cycling or skiing.
"Remind me gain about the difference now and in the 90's as it regards to who is dominating the tarck fro 800m to the marathon"
Yes. There is a difference. Your observation abilities are above-average. White runners left track in mid 80's and Africans now compete with each other.
if to talk about "clean" wr-s then in running distances probably all current records will be bettered in next 3...10 years but in the field javelin's wr is way harder than any other... in my opinion... i'm not talking about suspicious drug-smelled records... these are another league...
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josepena1127 1 month ago
i think the 800m is one of the worst events for me...i almost collapsed into complete exhaustion, but i how in hell is this guy not tired!!??
MrTriathlonian 2 months ago
Wao wao wao!
eaglefly0823 3 months ago
He was faster....but was he better...?
thenorthfacetrek 4 months ago
@thenorthfacetrek Well, as an athlete, Lord Coe excelled at TWO different (Olympic) distances: 800 metres AND 1500 metres. Kipketer, on the other hand, was always considered to be an 800 specialist; his personal best time for the longer distance was WAY slower than Coe's. In fact, he seldom competed in 1500m or mile races at international level.
Lord Coe and Mr Kipketer both competed in two Olympic Games (not the same two, obviously). Coe won four Olympic medals; Gold at 1500m in Moscow,
TheEctomorph 4 months ago
@thenorthfacetrek [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about Sebastian Coe and Wilson Kipketer]: 1980; Gold at 1500m (again) four years later, in Los Angeles; Silver at 800m in Moscow, 1980, and Silver at 800 (again) in LA, 1984. Mr Kipketer - who succeeded him as the world record holder in the two lap event - won two Olympic medals during the course of his lengthy and distinguished career: Silver at 800m in Sydney in the year 2000, and bronze at 800m four years later, in Athens.
TheEctomorph 4 months ago
The man that got closest to Coe after so many years.....
thenorthfacetrek 4 months ago
We have Rudisha you guys! Forget the rest
Koecharles 6 months ago
800m is the real man's race. Going sub 407's and 48's at first lap and having 1 more to go at full speed.. tats crazy.
Bakuhatsu233 7 months ago
@Bakuhatsu233 Your right about that one. It's the longest sprint track has to offer.
cmartinrun 6 months ago in playlist Dance
@cmartinrun The 800 metres is soooooooo not a sprint ! David Rudisha is a fabulous athlete - one of the greatest half-milers that has ever lived - but if you lined him up against Usain Bolt, Yohan Blake,Tyson Gay and four of the world's other top fast men, in a 100 (or 200) metres dash, he would be beaten by a proverbial street or two. I do not know what Mr Rudisha's personal best time (for the 100m) is ... but it is likely to be more than a full second outside the 6 foot 5" Jamaican
TheEctomorph 4 months ago
@cmartinrun [Continuing on from my previous 'post' about David Rudisha]: speedster's personal best (and world record) of 9.58. In a race as short as the 100 metres sprint, a time differential of one full second is vast. In other words, a man who is capable - on top form - of sprinting that distance in 10.00 seconds flat is in a completely different league, so to speak, from a man who - at his best - is an 11.00 second 100 metres sprinter.
No disrespect to David Rudisha, who
TheEctomorph 4 months ago
@cmartinrun has repeatedly demonstrated that he is a great athlete. In fact, Mr Rudisha may well have a talent which is as rare and as remarkable as Mr Bolt's ... but one of those gentlemen excels at sprinting, whilst the other excels at 800 metre running. Imho, it would be invidious - and churlish - to claim that one of those two super-talented sportsmen is a greater athlete than the other.
TheEctomorph 4 months ago
@Bakuhatsu233 I would certainly agree that the 800 metres is an event for real men; it requires a combination of physical qualities, including speed endurance, pure speed, pure endurance and a high degree of strengh/power in relation to bodyweight. Of these physical qualities, the most important - for an 800 metres runner - is speed endurance.
In order to excel as a half-miler, an athlete also needs to have certain other attributes; one of which is MENTAL toughness/hardness.
TheEctomorph 4 months ago
y do they back out of the race?????
TheRubio14 9 months ago
@TheRubio14 they are 'rabbits' the pacers for the potential winners. Sometimes there are 1-3 rabbits usually 2 i believe? 1 for the 400m mark and other for the 600m mark
OfficiallyJy 8 months ago
son of a bitch didnt even look tired...
gotpuck1111 9 months ago
Stunning. The great man.
newromantic888 9 months ago
i got 3:28 for 800m.
awood768 10 months ago
The most brutal race ever.
traviscky2012 11 months ago 8
what a gap! Rushida all the way
DragonBruceLee27 11 months ago
What's Wilson's weight?
eyeofgootas 1 year ago
The greateast athlete ever. Supreme ryhthm. God given ryhthm. Nobbody ever has this elegance.
newromantic888 1 year ago
I RUN IN HIS CLUB!!!! (or what was his club) :)
MrLolman666 1 year ago
this record was long standing. wilson was amzing
esquimalt1 1 year ago
Rudisha was like a foot taller than Kipketer. it's not fair :-)
dagda16 1 year ago
@dagda16 Height doesn't come into it - Coe was significantly shorter than Kipketer and was able to run 1.41.73 back in 1981 - i.e. when training methods were more primitive and injury treatments were not as good. To be honest, there is very little difference between all three of them, - they've all run between 1.41 and 1.42. Express one second difference as a percentage of 102 seconds and obviously it's less than 1%.
owenp123 1 year ago
@owenp123 Good points. Coe was 5'9", Kipketer was taller (around 5'11" ) & Rudisha is what, 6'2"? I think the most significant thing is the improvement in track surfaces. The track Coe ran in Florence was an old one then! He also ran wide on the bend which would have added c 0.2 to his time. Take that off and give him a super fast mondo track of today, and he'd have run 1:41.0 then, 29 years ago. You're right, there is little between them.
deano27671 1 year ago
@deano27671 Dean I have been with the great man on the track and he is nowhere near 5'11". More like 5'9". In fact if you look at the pic when Wilson got together with Seb, Rudisha and Juantorena you can see that Seb and Wilson are almost the same height.
newromantic888 9 months ago
supreme running. Nobody is as beautiful in motion as Kipketer. He will always be the greatest 800m runner ever.
newromantic888 1 year ago
@newromantic888 That title truly belongs to Sebastian Coe forever.
iMaDeMoN2012 9 months ago
@iMaDeMoN2012 Sorry I ran out of charachters. Wilson is the greatest 800m runner ever, Coe was the greatest middle distance runner ever. You need to make this distinction.
newromantic888 9 months ago
@newromantic888 Wilson and Rudisha only lowered his record in rabbited races. Wilson is the best in his time but Coe is the bar.
iMaDeMoN2012 8 months ago
@iMaDeMoN2012 Yes Coe did set the bar very high. Thats why it took 16 years for someone to jump over the bar. That someone was Wilson Kipketer. He didnt just scrape the bar and leave it wobbling he cleared by a good half second. In fact Wilson set bar that high that in 15 years only a tenth of a second has been taken off his prev WR. Yes Coe could have run faster if he concentrated on the 800m and had paced races and Wilson could of gone faste rtoo if he didnt get malaria. Probably 140.8 or so.
newromantic888 8 months ago
@newromantic888 As I said these guys really haven't bested his performance they have only matched it. This is not an indoor 60m dash run in lanes. Every race is unique, time only an approximate measure. I'm not talking about what ifs. We usually acknowledgment when a new bar is set, for example when banister broke 4:00 minutes. These faction of a second drops don't merit crowning a new champion. You can't rediscover Mount Everest.
iMaDeMoN2012 8 months ago
@iMaDeMoN2012 We should and can talk about what ifs when it comes to Seb because its all a case of what could have and should have been. However when its all said end done its Wilson who is the one with the stellar record.Its all on paper no ifs or buts. Seb may have been the first to climb Everest but Wilson was the first on the moon.
newromantic888 8 months ago
@newromantic888 NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO... That is exactly wrong! Sebastian is Neil Armstrong. Wilson is buzz Aldrin. The moon is the moon. Moon == 1.41
iMaDeMoN2012 8 months ago 5
@iMaDeMoN2012 Thats a brilliant comment. You made my day and week happy with this comment. Beautiful.
newromantic888 8 months ago
@iMaDeMoN2012 Agree with you, with respect to newromantic888. Coe was SO far ahead of the rest of the world, 1.71 s to be correct, when he broke the WR in 81. The next fastest that year was Cruz & Beyer at 1:44.3. It then took 16 years &many repeated efforts by Kip before Coe's record was beaten. Coe attempted only 1 fast race in early June (it wasn't even a WR attempt), then ran to win or chase Mile WR later. Had he not ran wide to pass rabbit, it would have been 1:41.5.
deano27671 7 months ago
Kip took many carefully orchestrated attempts throughout the summers of 96 & 97 to finally equal then beat it. Take Coe from 81 and place him on a faster track against Kip at the height of summer, I think Coe would win more often. He had a faster change of pace than Kip. Coe was not only the first to go sub 1:42, he was also the first to go sub 1:43. Only 2 men have in essence run no faster than 0.5 sec better than Coe in over 30 years. Coe's run was Beamonesque.
deano27671 7 months ago
new record 1.41.01
DAMOEAIN 1 year ago
@DAMOEAIN Yes Coe was brilliant over 800m. He took the distance a new dimension and showed what was truely possible. However statistics show that Wilson lowered Coes 16 year standing mark by over half a second setting record that stood for 14 years, won 3 World Championships, an Olympic Silver and Bronze, has four of the 10 fastest times ever, 8 of the 20 fastest times ever,, 4 times under 142 more than anyone else, still holds the 800m indoor WR.
newromantic888 9 months ago
rudisha 1.41.09
XiaoKeKe2 1 year ago
@XiaoKeKe2 rudisha 1:41.01
smokeweedalldayyea 8 months ago
David Rudisha will bring it down below 1:40 and very soon.
As a matter of fact, he'll break his own world record (1:41.09) this year, 2010, the year of our Lord.
SonNative 1 year ago
David Rudisha 1:41.09!!!
YiftertheShifter1 1 year ago
record just broken
mamadou1224 1 year ago
@SNCrangers12367 "gebrselaisse and bekele are not dopers"
Oh, I am sure, they are not. They are only managed by a certain Dutch individual with scandalous reputation, whose athletes repeatedly tested positive on banned substances. But that means nothing.
centrum99 1 year ago
Pace did fantastic job!
isnartinjic 1 year ago
i mean< all those guys were almost under 1:44 in the SAME race, where do you see that nowadays, you would be lucky to see one guy under 1:44..somethings a lil fishy
noguhd06 1 year ago
This record will most certainly disappear. DAvid Rudisha just ran 1:41.51 on July 10, 2010. He'll crack it.
SonNative 1 year ago
Those were the happy times, when EPO was undetectable.
LOL
centrum99 1 year ago
i have yet to see an 800 race as cool as dave wottles 72' olympic win
wwwgotristancom 1 year ago
This is amazing. These dudes are ridiculous. I'm like a minute slower than this guy. That's pretty sad.
destine4hope 1 year ago
dude i wish i could run a good 800...im a soph in hs and my fastest is only 2:08...but i havnt run it since fresh year
bjropel 1 year ago
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GOATAli 1 year ago
the pace at which kipketer is running an 800m is faster than my 100m pace, but then again i'm not a sprinter, i run distance
tquasa 1 year ago
@tquasa That's still slow as fuck you bitch
PrincessUnicorn69 1 year ago
@PrincessUnicorn69 LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
bellpeter27 1 year ago
And the funniest part is that he is not dead tired, vomiting, lying on the ground at the end! He's just like "Yeah, new world record! Woohoo!"
OrangeSodaKing 1 year ago
wtf, not even tired. "yeah i just took a brisk jog around the block" is what he looked like after
xfootdoctor 1 year ago
Next to Carl Lewis, the most beautiful and natural runner I have ever seen.
beebeechitown 1 year ago
he doesnt even look tired
jacezz123 1 year ago
amazing pacemaking!
mc1703 1 year ago
lap 1 49:00
lap 2 52:11
Joel77Castro 1 year ago
@Joel77Castro
Picking hairs here but 49.00 was for the pacemaker so Wilson's splits were a touch more even still: probably 49.1 and 52.0. Amazing run.
smeg2k2k 1 year ago
wow, his splits were 49 and 52
luigi2413 1 year ago
How can someone move so beautifully. He is like silk on a magic carpet. This man must be bio mechanically perfect. Its like he is floating.
newromantic888 1 year ago
and i was proud of a 2:25 :(
ctbd23 1 year ago
@ctbd23 i know me too i got like a 2: 21 at my last meet haha
DDPskatr18 1 year ago
@ctbd23 what was your age when you did that time?
jolteon43 1 year ago
@jolteon43 about 10 months ago, so i was 15. Why do you ask?
ctbd23 1 year ago
@ctbd23 you see i also run and i did 2:05
just curious :D
jolteon43 1 year ago
@jolteon43 ahh i see, good job! i dropped 30 seconds off my mile time durring cross country training, so i have high hopes from my 800 this track season :)
ctbd23 1 year ago
@ctbd23 that's amazing
i want to do under 2:02 this year
i need to do under 2:04 to qualificate to the nationals i missed it by a second last year
jolteon43 1 year ago
@jolteon43 nice! how old are you?
ctbd23 1 year ago
@ctbd23 I'm 16 next week so this year i'm competing against younger people than me
but hey now i'm mainly focused on cross country. the nationals are on february here in portugal
jolteon43 1 year ago
@jolteon43 sweet! yeah, the xc season finished about a month ago here in the US. my school's team got 2nd in state, but our top runner had the flu (but still placed top 10) good luck in nationals!
ctbd23 1 year ago
@jolteon43 What country is this that 2:04 qualifies for nationals? 2:04 wouldn't score at any state meet here in the US.
narutorox85 1 year ago
@narutorox85 portugal
remeber that im talking about people with 15/16 years
but there are very few people under the 2 00 min
also these people including me do about every kind of distance from 800m to 4000m in cross country
we dont do only 800m
jolteon43 1 year ago
@jolteon43 2:04 isn't very fast for a 16 year old... Especially when you're talking about nationals.
narutorox85 1 year ago
@narutorox85 If you think about it, nationals would be about equal to state meets here considering the size of Portugal. Even so, anything above a 2:04 as a 15/16 year old would be considered fairly slow at my school.
kofinater 1 year ago
@kofinater That's true. I guess Nationals sounds a lot more impressive to someone in the US or another larger country.
narutorox85 1 year ago
@narutorox85 You can get to nationals with 2:04 you'd be seeded differently though
RaiseTheUnderground 10 months ago
@RaiseTheUnderground What the fuck are you talking about? Assuming you are talking about the US, there is no way 2:04 would even get you into emerging elite at nationals.
narutorox85 10 months ago
crazyy good shape.. crazzzy amazing form. Thats exactly wat i stirive to run like in an 800m.
BlueMstr7 1 year ago
CHEATER KIPKETER!!!
DOPER!!!!!!!
mrlogic4u 1 year ago
@mrlogic4u you obviously never ran a race in your life. I ran 1:50 in college and decided not to pursue a running career after graduation. Training produces 1:41, not dope. There is not a substance in the world that can replace training, PERIOD. I ran in a race with American great Jim Spivey in 1991 and he ran 1:46 in that race, crossing the line, showing no fatigue. Gee, was Spivey a "doper" too? Or Nick Symmonds with his amazing finishing speed? Whatever, man.
thepowerhouse4u 1 year ago
@thepowerhouse4u
Hey mate, no offence but you are a little off the mark. No one is suggesting you don't need to train in order to run 1.41, nor is anyone suggesting you can just simply take drugs and become a 1.41 runner. The sad reality is many track world records are the result of brutal training which can only be sustained by drug use. Now I am not saying Kipketer is a cheat, but I guess I would rearrange your statement and say dope produces the training that produces xxx.xx time...
smooveXXX 1 year ago
@smooveXXX Congrats on your 1:46. Sure, dope would produce times to garner some curiosity. I challenged a statement that offered no factual evidence to suggest Kipketer was doping. It seems critics today question every time out there. I would say improved training, attention to diet, and the opportunity to run professionally affords athletes more time to train. I remember reading about Peter Elliot having a day job so he wouldn't "crack up", as he put it, sitting around. 1:46.1, right on.
thepowerhouse4u 1 year ago
@thepowerhouse4u
And this is coming from someone that ran 1.46.1 clean and I can tell you that would have been a lot faster if my mum had raised me the wrong way and I had ever wanted to use drugs.
smooveXXX 1 year ago
@smooveXXX Hah Hah and what does it mean... you think if you run 1.46 today you will run 1.41.11 tomorrow? Hah hah hah dream on.
sessionmessiah 1 year ago
@sessionmessiah eeehhrrm, no, no it doesn't. Where did I claim that? I did what I did and with performance enhancing drugs may have been capable of running 1.44.0. Who knows, I never tried. One thing I do know is that either you struggle in reading and comprehension or are just a douche. Most probably all three things combined...
smooveXXX 1 year ago
@mrlogic4u Now it is quite clear, unfortunately. All the "genetic marvels" from the era between 1995-1998 were simply EPO cheaters. Now the performances in the 800/1500 m returned 25 years back, and in longer distances, the times have fallen as well.
centrum99 1 year ago
@mrlogic4u Ur a fking idiot... Running is the only sport that you cannot possibly cheat at. Caffine makes ur heart explode, steroids slow u down, drugs would kill someone with that slow of a heart rate. You're just an idiot. Kipketer is the fastest this world has ever and will ever see. End game m8, pick yourself up and gtfo.
Anotherunner1 1 year ago
@Anotherunner1 "Kipketer is the fastest this world has ever and will ever see" i bet you wish you didn't say that
thebannie 1 year ago
@Anotherunner1 You're kidding right? have you ever heard of EPO or blood doping?
mattave 1 year ago
@Anotherunner1 Ya srry for u nd ur short-sighted ideas, bt the record's just been broken (I know my spelling nd grmmr is off, bt it's youtue)
BeserkinPeanut 1 year ago
@Anotherunner1 are u dumb? u can cheat at running, steroids and blood doping.. people have done it
oxfordkingpin24 1 year ago
@oxfordkingpin24 Fail. Steroids increase muscle mass, but in distance running VO2 efficiency is way more important than muscle mass. Steroids would slow you down if anything.
narutorox85 1 year ago
@narutorox85 not really, steroids don't increase muscle mass, they just allow the body to work harder with less recovery. For example instead of say benching 10x100kg every 15 minutes, you might do 12x100kg every 11 minutes.
its just when they are used for strength that you build up muscle
wolfdog45 11 months ago
@wolfdog45 So does that mean that steroids could be considered to increase VO2 efficiency? I had always heard that they only help for shorter distances, but if what you say is true then maybe not.
narutorox85 11 months ago
@narutorox85 they can improve VO2 max through through a greater volume high intensity training, steroids on their own dont make you musclely, if you take steroids but do no exercise then all that happens is you get fat
wolfdog45 11 months ago
@narutorox85 Steroids can profoundly increase energy stores, but it would be largely offset by weight gain.
centrum99 9 months ago
@oxfordkingpin24 You're kidding right? steroids cause you to weigh more which scientifically slows you. and doping is extremely obvious because your oxygen levels are insane. You can't cheat and get away from it.
Anotherunner1 5 months ago
Kipcheater. What a doper.
mrlogic4u 1 year ago
wtf he doesnt even look tired whatsoever after.... not displaying any of the signs some one normally does when they run the 800 really hard.... arms up not bent over at all, not on the ground collapsed lol he just goes right into celebrating? Mysterioussss
xxxDAPROBLEMxxx 1 year ago
a skill the 800m runner needs is being able to relax while running and kipketer displays that incredibly easily. his body is just so accustomed to being able to relax at speeds like that and hes so accustomed to the pain of the 800m that it doesnt affect him as much anymore. if u look at other proffesional 800m runners they dont look tired after their races either
ap1234512 1 year ago
@xxxDAPROBLEMxxx thats called hard work
DaMan478 1 year ago
@xxxDAPROBLEMxxx believe me he is tired as hell...
jolteon43 1 year ago
The great man.
newromantic888 1 year ago
A ssensible 400m Deano........
newromantic888 1 year ago
cologne!!
FoerbHimself 1 year ago
EPO power
travisnor 2 years ago
excellent
mjm339g 2 years ago
Amazing..I can keep watching this forever and ever.
newromantic888 2 years ago
we feel geb is on something....how can u be that old and run that fast...just no way!!
mamowolde 2 years ago
pure guts and talent man. you should know that, come on!
victorramos01 2 years ago
EXCELLENT!!!
shogomikami 2 years ago
Do you have a better quality video of this race?
jonabond 2 years ago
FANTASTIC race. That's how you SET RECORDS!
dchartier1 2 years ago
Coryman... Let me guess, you were a highly acclaimed runner in high school but couldn't handle the international competition in and after college? What were you a 4:30 miler, like the rest of them? Don't hate the player, hate the game. Go post on some barry bonds videos or something, track is way to intellectual for this banter.
SOFAST429 2 years ago
Wilson Kipketer is the Greatest 800 meters runner ever, and will FOREVER be, whether this record is broken or not...
sessionmessiah 2 years ago
Perfect pace and rhythm from Kiptoo.
newromantic888 2 years ago
Magic.
newromantic888 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
It's funny that Kipketer's coach Slawomir Nowak was recently exposed as a drunker sexually harassing his athletes. This only shows, what a scum was involved in this EPO fraud.
Coryman100 2 years ago
Cory please. Leave off.
newromantic888 2 years ago
"We want to live in a dreamworld and believe that all those Africans from the Golden WR-breaking era 1995-1998 were natural genetic marvels!"
Coryman100 2 years ago
Ok so Wilson ex coach gets drunk...........wow. We all do sometimes. Ok he pinched a chicks ass. He is a man he likes women. I do.......do you. How can u connect such a recent event event with 12 years ago. Man u are making things up. Go and bust all the womens records first before u come around to my neck of the woods. Start with Flo Jo.
newromantic888 2 years ago
Wilson kipketer is a very tall champion .
kipketerdu800m 2 years ago
wunderbar.
newromantic888 2 years ago
who took the pace anyway
newromantic888 2 years ago
We have a new world record in Cologne.
newromantic888 2 years ago
Wow. The full video at last thanks 14111 runner.
I love this.
newromantic888 2 years ago
Coryman 100
You are dumber than a door knob.
*Pumbavu!
* That is Kiswahili for 'stupid'.
SonNative 2 years ago
Yes, I still don't know the miraculous training methods that can change a sub-mediocre 400 m sprinter into an 800 m world record candidate within one year.
Coryman100 2 years ago
Kipketer ran 1:45, whe he was (reportedly) 21 years old. There are many 800 m runners, who run these or even better times at this age, but only few get under 1:42,50 and not many under 1:43 within the next 5 years.
I think that many people already sobered up from the mythology of "African natural wonders" and understand that a significant portion of these natural wonders from late 90's were simply EPO-cheats. The case of Pamela Jelimo should serve as a blatant recent example.
Coryman100 2 years ago
Are you imputing that Pamela was a drug cheat! Her poor showing is simply letting success get in the way of proper training. Remind me gain about the difference now and in the 90's as it regards to who is dominating the tarck fro 800m to the marathon. You must be jocking friend!
truthanasia 2 years ago
And you really think that she isn't a drug cheat? Someone running 55 sec. in the 400 m and another year attacking the world record in the 800 m? Oh, I forgot - she is a genetic marvel from Africa! Only an African woman can improve from 2:01 to 1:54 within four months! Or the better tests on CERA work really better?
Coryman100 2 years ago
When your young improvement does come quickly sometimes. Obviously 400m was not her best distance and I dont see many Kenyan 400m champions out there. 800m is her natural distance. Africans a simply genetically better designed to run than us whities. So calm down and accept it.
newromantic888 2 years ago
"Obviously"? You know a quartermiler, who runs 49x in the 400 m and next year, he attacks the world record in the 800 m? Are you serious? Or do you simply want to ridicule yourself?
The whole African generation with the stellar times beginning in 1995 ran on EPO! The whole track has been devastated by "African genetic marvels" running on EPO! One of the biggest charades in the history of sport!
Coryman100 2 years ago
The times now gradually return to the normal range, 15 years back, as WADA has been successfully fighting blood doping during the recent years. As a result, North Africans have almost completely disappeared from top positions in track. Mourhit, Boulami, Ramzi, Kaouch, Saidi-Sief, Chouki, Hachlaf - one "genetic marvel" after another has been caught since the first EPO test was introduced in 2000.
Coryman100 2 years ago
Simon Kemboi, the member of the famous Kenyan relay team around Samson Kitur, was caught immediately in 2000. Pamela Chepchumba, a female runner from the most famous Kenyan and Ethiopian training group led by the Italian "dottore" Gabrielle Rosa, was caught in 2003. Do you believe that the rest of Rosa's group are natural talents?
Coryman100 2 years ago
Yego, Bekele (brother of Kenenisa Bekele), Wanjiru, Jepkosgei, Tergat, Kamathi - virtually the whole elite of today's track is in Rosa's team, many of them with incredible improvements after years of stagnation.
Look at yearlists from 1994-1997 and the sudden flood of Moroccans, Kenyans and Ethiopians, virtually OVER A SINGLE WINTER OF 1995-96. You can recite the cheats' names from the lists with ease.
Coryman100 2 years ago
This year in the spring, a sport manager was arrested by police in Austria, because he supplied EPO to athletes. According to press, his training group includes athletes "mainly from Kenya".
Well, but I shouldn't disturb you from your clear vision of the world.
Recite 100-times a day: Kenyans are clean natural wonders! Kenyans are clean natural wonders! Kenyans are clean natural wonders!
Coryman100 2 years ago
Kenyans are natural wonders..................sure some like all other ethnic groups have abused drugs EPO or steroids or human growth hormone. Sure. Why are u posting on Wilsons WR though. EPO and 800m dont really mix. Did u study pyhisiology at school at all.
newromantic888 2 years ago
"EPO and 800m dont really mix. "
Don't teach me about physiology, mister. 800 m is 50-60% aerobic, and thus quite influencable by EPO. The improvement can't be as high as in longer distances, and that's the reason, why we haven't seen more Kenyans running such ridiculous times like Topper-doper Kipketer. In fact, his passion to break Coe's WR may have led to EPO overdose, which can explain his "malaria" after the stellar season of 1997.
Coryman100 2 years ago
What about the East European women. 400m/800m. What about the womens 100m/200m WR. Lets look into these as well. I know where u are coming from and u are obviously very knowledgeable. But here u are barking up the wrong tree. Dont group Wilson with the other Kenyans.
newromantic888 2 years ago
Cory answer my question. Dont evade a question just because it might make your argument look shallow.
newromantic888 2 years ago
The same. Look, who was in the group of Jos Hermens, the manager of other dopers Gebreselassie and Bekele: Gabriela Szabo, Nils Schumann and Hezekiel Sepeng. Prominent names both from Africa and Europe. Track has been filled with EPO dopers since mid 90's, similarly like cycling or skiing.
Coryman100 2 years ago
Sepeng tested positive for nandrolone in 2005, by the way.
Coryman100 2 years ago
"Remind me gain about the difference now and in the 90's as it regards to who is dominating the tarck fro 800m to the marathon"
Yes. There is a difference. Your observation abilities are above-average. White runners left track in mid 80's and Africans now compete with each other.
Coryman100 2 years ago
hrudisha run 1:42:01.faster than kakiaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!suprise for you.david .
mrembo87 2 years ago
that was Dope!
Zaxxen69 2 years ago
Is this guy danish?? So shut up about the portuguese striker liedson (born in brazil), you stupid danish people!!
xicobraz 2 years ago
what a legend
jonabond 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Cheating black twat.
gracko14 2 years ago
And he is Danish...not, but maybe in heart...if he wasn't living in Monaco, lol.
Zipzap112 2 years ago
thats rediculous. He went a 49 out and 52 back, soo fast
aaacacaas 2 years ago 5
@aaacacaas The first time he broke the record he went 51 out and 51 back.
Anotherunner1 1 year ago
@Anotherunner1 No man has ever done even splits to run a 1:41
TehAwesomeness 1 year ago
人類史上最もキレイなフォーム。
saitamatokoname 2 years ago
i ment men's javelin of course... with all respect to women's wr of course, but men's record is mind-blowing...
susspuss 2 years ago
if to talk about "clean" wr-s then in running distances probably all current records will be bettered in next 3...10 years but in the field javelin's wr is way harder than any other... in my opinion... i'm not talking about suspicious drug-smelled records... these are another league...
susspuss 2 years ago
I think the hardest to break is 2,45m sotomayor.
PhuckFase 2 years ago 2
she ran too?
nasdaqdjitraders 2 years ago
i meant the high jump record, what did u think?
PhuckFase 2 years ago
who else? Sotomayor the candidate for Supreme Court Justice.
nasdaqdjitraders 2 years ago
I think 800m and 3000m together with Javelin 98'48 is the hardest to beat, but the triple jump and high jump records are very good
Aeneiden 2 years ago
Wilson Kipketer - Smooth and fast.
A shame he couldn't win gold at the Olympics. He would have won in 1996 for sure if it wasn't for politics.
1:41.11 is probably one of the hardest WR to break.
xedvux 2 years ago 4