Life after death, a Reality? Near death experiences, NDE - Fact or Fiction? Fact or Delusion? 3 / 5

[ProgLiberty]

What an amazing amount of lack of doubt, inquiry, and scientific reasoning, what amazing gullibility.

[ProgLiberty]

It'd the plot of that movie with Robin Williams...

[jhendrix7911]

you can see music if you take acid lmao

[49128]

daro, you are on the wrong track about the bible having diferent interpretations: the bible itself says theres is no PRIVATE interpretation of God word ie, the bible.

so I beleive a person who says  what you just said is speaking withoput much b4hand study. as the sanish say : estas abalando detras sus codos hombre" = you are talking through your elbows my man. I wish you a good day and spend a few years studying the new testament b4 making these sweeping s...

[daro2096]

Re 7.47. Okay that puts it beyond doubt for me. These NDE's are of the devil. A mother seeing her 10 year daughter who was killed in heaven proves it for me that she was deceived by the demons. Her daughter is dead and is sleeping till the resurrection. She never saw her daughter but a demon pretending to be her daughter.

I am not watching anymore of this spiritualism. The Bible says only God has immortality and believers do not receive immortality until Jesus returns.

The dead are dead.

[Cmedic57]

@daro2096 why do u think God couldn't give her a vision of her daughter in heaven? "to be abscent from the body is to be present with the Lord" ... "immediately after death comes the judgement". These people have died in this realm and have entered the next ...God exist outside of time. Once u die ur spirit is no longer bound by time, the next thing u will know and see once u die is either the fires of hades or the white robes of Jesus. God is the God of the living my friend ... not the dead.^_^

[daro2096]

@Cmedic57

The Lord could have given her a vision without all this NDE rubbish.

All thought processes cease at death. For a person who dies they next see Jesus coming in the clouds if they were a believer. Thousands of years may have passed but to the person who died it seems just like seconds. Man does not have an immortal soul. One doesn't receive their rewards until Jesus comes after the judgment. Nobody is burning in hell right now. Nobody who has died in Christ is in heaven right now.

[Cmedic57]

@daro2096 It is true that brain activity flat-lines at the moment of death ... that is why NDE is so intreguing...especially when ppl who are blind from birth who have a NDE come back and describe in perfect detail what they have seen. We should not put God in a box. He can do anything ... even stop time. (Joshua 10:13). One thing is certain ... Jesus had victory over death. Also I must correct u ... the dead in Christ are merely asleep (Mark5:38,39)...God is the God of the living.(Luke 20:38).

[daro2096]

@Cmedic57

Big deal. Demons are perfectly capable of making things appear to you when you are near death.

Christ called death a sleep,see John 11:11-14.See Ecc. 9:5, 6, 10, the dead know NOTHING.Psa. 146:4 your thoughts perish at death.We all meet Jesus at the same time,1 Thess 4:16.We don't receive immortality until Christ comes at his second coming,2 Tim 4:8.The dead are in their graves until the heavens are no more,Job 14:10-15.Christ comes with his rewards at the second coming,Rev 22:11-12.

[Cmedic57]

@daro2096 I rather not give demons or satan that much credit ...God is greater. Even the religious leaders of Jesus time accused Him of casting out demons and doing other miracles by the power of Beelzebub (satan). We should not be quik to judge for if we call the work of the Holy Spirit the work of the devil then we are guilty of the sin of blashpemy of the Holy Spirit that cannot be forgiven. Also there is a hell NOW and it will be cast into the lake of fire at the end of the age with death.

[daro2096]

@Cmedic57

Hell is the grave though. Sheol and Hades, look them up. If you mean hell-fire then that is Gehenna or the Valley of Himmon. Death and the grave will be thrown into the lake of fire at the end of the 1000 years. They are destroyed in the fire. There is no more death, pain or sorrow in the new Earth. That means no torture chamber somewhere. The wicked are burned up and destroyed, they are no more.

Everything I have said is biblical.

[Cmedic57]

@daro2096 Jesus spoke of hell as a place that already existed ...so did the prophets. A site called "Is Hell the Grave?" details all the references to hell in the King James bible. I think before u close the door on this ...u should investigate further. Also check out The Lazarus phenomenon on U-Tube. Nothing good can come from satan ...only God is good and all goodness flows out from Him. Yet in many NDE's ppl's experiences have done them nothing but good & have changed their lives 4 better

[k0smon]

@daro2096 ::: As you withdraw from reality, realize that there are many ways to interpret the bible. Hundreds of NDEs tend to enlighten the understanding you now have, and change it to 'absent from the body, present with the lord'. If you can't handle spiritualism, you certainly won't understand demonology, or the devil.

[daro2096]

@k0smon

Are you saying I am delusional?

The father of spiritualism is the devil.

[daro2096]

Spirit bodies?

[daro2096]

So basically what this expert at 4.36 is saying is sin all you like it doesn't matter because you will see Jesus when you die. The Bible says nothing of the sort of course. It says when you die you know nothing and you don't worship God when you are dead. You only see Jesus when you are resurrected with a new body.

[daro2096]

Hell fire is prepared for Satan and his angels. Satan and his angels are not in charge of hell but they are going to burn in hell.

[dirtydonki]

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[7Billionheadedmonsta]

thought this might be interesting. Its clearly a real phenomena. Sheepish fundamentalist dogma once again. If you dont believe in their brainwashed views you are immediately labeled an athiest. There are plenty of open minded people who are looking for real answers. Why cant they keep their propaganda to themselves. They dont realize we are not all sheep!

[scarry07]

Why we have to be afraid to go to heaven. This is what our system tells us, that we must have fear of God. The reality is that there is only love, anything else is illusion.

[TheHyperactive1979]

@scarry07 Fear of God doesn`t mean to be afraid of God. Fear of God means to pay him respect.

[scarry07]

I am agree with you. "Not faith arrives from fear of God, rather Fear of God arrives from faith". I only say that system is wrong not religion.

[GoosedByTheLight]

@scarry07 From my NDE, and from the findings of science, I can assure you that the system is not wrong, religion, on the other hand, has a lot to answer for. Please don’t write me off as an Atheist however, because I have communed with our Creator personally, and I know that God is a reality. My beef however, is with anyone who claims to understand and judge others for their beliefs, because I know that none of us have seen the truth, and that’s from one who has seen God personally.

[k0smon]

@GoosedByTheLight Clarification please. You say you have see God personally. God is everywhere present, and has no form that you can see. Perhaps you saw an angel instead.

[GoosedByTheLight]

@k0smon No, I oversimplified my later statement where I said that I had “seen” God, but my former statement where I said that I had “communed” with God was as accurate as such earthly language allows. It was definitely God, assuming that by “God”, we are referring to the creator of everything. The God that I “communed” with was eternally omnipresent and infinite in nature, but it was also quintessentially composed of pure unconditional Love, leaving no reason to “fear” anything.

[GoosedByTheLight]

@TheHyperactive1979 Bollocks. There is nothing for us to fear from our Creator, and fear is not equivalent to respect. Actually, there is no parallel between fear and respect in a literal context. After I died, I lost all fear of death, yet I still respect our creator more than ever. Our relationship with God should never be defined in any way by fear, but instead by Love. Fear is a biological artifact that we must overcome to fully embrace our source, though the Love is inherent the Source.

[UltimoLatino]

I would love to see heaven but it seems so far away from earth, maybe that is a good thing.

[k0smon]

@UltimoLatino Heaven is not far away. The lower parts of heaven are on the same level as the earth. See "Life in the World Unseen", you can download it from the internet.

[GoosedByTheLight]

@k0smon I agree in part. I haven’t watched "Life in the World Unseen", but on your recommendation, I’ll look it up. Anyway, heaven is here and now, as all is, because all separations and limitations are illusion. In that respect, I disagree that only “the lower parts of heaven are on the same level as the earth”, for heaven, like God, cannot be divided by upper and lower parts. Both are as one, indivisible and perfect. Let go of Dante‘s “levels” as he really didn‘t know what he was talking about

[k0smon]

@GoosedByTheLight The Oahspe describes the lower heavens as traveling with the earth, and they are divided into 2 areas, one where activity is individual, and one where activity is in 'groups'. The higher heavens are stationary and inhabit the areas between the planets.

[GoosedByTheLight]

@k0smon Sorry, but I’m not a “Faithist”, and I question the Devine authenticity of a book produced via automatic writing by a dentist over a century ago. I don’t mean to say that it is wrong for this reason mind you, only that I see no reason to give it any weight as an authority on any subject of the Devine… especially if it conflicts with my direct experience. To Dr. Newbrough’s credit, even he said the book wasn’t sacred, so I don’t see it that way either.

[TheBudhistpunk]

Yeah that what id be thinking as I met jesus WHILE I WAS DEAD.Ahh your nearly 6ft tall.

[youngfred116]

videos like these just tear at the very fabric of athiest and i love that shit. hehehehehheehe

[ilkinond]

Just as I thought - this is just a load of fundamentalist propaganda bullshit.

[youngfred116]

@ilkinond cut your computer off and run like shit. don't ever watch another nde video again. they all talk of hell. run for your fucking life. lololl

[ilkinond]

@youngfred116 No they don't all talk about hell. Hell, like heaven, is a piece of Judaio-Christian mythology. NDE experiencers talk of positive, and occasionally negative NDEs. Not even god only features in all NDEs. There is certainly no reference to JC or other biblical imagery. Lol!

[youngfred116]

@ilkinond just die and you won't have to watch the videos. then your imagination will be satisfied lololol

[ilkinond]

@youngfred116 No, I'll stay alive and call this out for the crock of shit that it is.

[youngfred116]

@ilkinond we know you and every other athiest on youtube live to watch this kind of shit. keep watching how you'll burn in the majical place lol

[ilkinond]

@youngfred116 I love watching this kind of shit, you are right, because it is so hilariously funny, and so are the assholes like you who believe in it! Keep it coming boy, I love it! LOL

[youngfred116]

@ilkinond we know we know. wow it's funny how it's only funny to sick athiest.

[youngfred116]

@ilkinond and dickheads like you who watch youtube to bitch about shit. die and burn bitch. hahahaha. i bet you faggots get hard a suck each other off watching this shit you misreable fuck. watch and watch queer.

[mooseflier]

@youngfred116 LOL, homophobe much!

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Woot!

[youngfred116]

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[mooseflier]

@youngfred116

Glad I got to ya! You're so easily manipulated =)

[youngfred116]

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[mooseflier]

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[youngfred116]

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[youngfred116]

@ilkinond imagery my groin hard freak lol

[numbcore]

scary....not

[waterhands20]

I had an OBE and I will never forget how clearly I could see everything. I wear glasses and my vision was so clear, like HD vision lol but in all seriousness the soul does exist and God exists, anyone who doesn't believe so is a fool sorry to say.

[vojkanstrasni]

Please elaborate on your experience. I am honestly interested in what you have experienced.

[ENYLYNMAY]

Exactly there is no time on heaven. I had a weird experience today in the morning....

[eminemforlifenoshit]

@ENYLYNMAY ya please elaborate on your experience i would like to now

[jeanpierrel]

Everything here on earth as is opposite, love and hate, cold and hot, beauty and ugly so maybe that if there is a paradise there is a hell is opposite but that does'nt mean that we have to stay there i think we have the possibility to come out and go to paradise in the light!

[karlkarlkarl1234]

That's the New Age Omega belief popularised at the moment; that one can just choose heaven and hell. Personally I believe it to be misguided. These juxtapositions of reality you talk of must exist somewhere as absolute and we are just living in the equilibrium between the two. We all serve either love or hate, light or darkness, whether we know or not; this is the point all atheists forget or indeed were never conscious of. If one serves love/hate, in the end will they not meet its pure form?

[k0smon]

jeanpierrel : As I understand it, you are correct about hell. However, love and hate are not opposites, love or hate and apathy are opposites.

[R0GU3Reilly]

The lips are so far off their voices its wierd. Its like watching people opening their mouth with a narrator thats retarded.