@SinnFein4ever "Keepin' " is spelt with an apostrophe to indicate that the "g" is omitted, so in an informal context I fail to see the problem. And you seem to have missed that it's a bit of a pun - atheism is grounded in *reality* (or so we'd say anyway :L) and so involves "keepin' it real", whereas the phrase has another, positive, meaning in an informal context.
I'd agree with you if this were a philosophical treatise, but it's not, it's a YouTube video.
I am atheist becuse i've developed critical thinking and im not naive
Religon came from writings used to give example of ideal human behavor but where taken to literaly and were combined into the holy testement which i view as a dr.sues book
And now they are scared that the will loose followers and thus loose money becuse god cost more than oil
Now that we are out of the dark ages of some medieval ignorance and fundamentalism, I donnot understand the existence of need for a proselitism of atheism. Though this ad is OK unlike most others, does atheism need proselitism? Is the next step burning believers on the stake?
The burden of proof is on the believers... atheist do not have to prove God doesnt exist, Theists have to prove that he does. You never prove something doesnt exist because if it doesnt... then it doesnt. But if it does exist and is just hard to see, or know. Then you must prove that it does. So dont ask us to prove his non-existance. For our proof is that we do not believe... we have nothing to make us believe. Im sure this sounds redundant and repetitive, but I mean no harm in this valid point
@LordWhorfinX2 I can no more provide to you evidence in the favour of Atheism that would satisfy you then you can provide evidence of Religion to satisfy me... thus this argument/debate is moot from the start. We both know it..
@LordWhorfinX2 Please prove that Religion, any besides a select few which have no gods or deities, such as Buddhism, is correct. And you're asking for proof about finding proof that religion has no proof, Which it does not. And if you count the bible, or other religious texts and scriptures, then we can count Anything you can find in a high school textbook, to anything that happens around you, Atheism isn't a religion, it's science.
@LordWhorfinX2 1: there is no question in my last post, and you can't prove that religion is correct either, actually, i should say that atheism, has almost an infinite amount of proof, Because it is Science. If you believe in religion so much, why don't you school, or not send your children, if you have, to school, Because the two are incompatible, Atheism is believing nothing, you're correct about one thing, but that frees you up from false delusions.
@LordWhorfinX2 those delusions, only provide false hope, Unless you can prove that there is a god. Atheism allows me to live my life to the fullest, as people who believe in an afterlife might not. trying to make yourself sound like someone on a higher pedestal by showing pity, is low. Nice try, but i don't buy all that junk you put in your comment that was just a way to fill space. I have nothing against religion, But don't badmouth Atheism.
@LordWhorfinX2 So don't comment on my comment, and comment about the subject, also, I would much rather be good, for the sake of being good, rather than be good because some Religious idol told me to. I respect whatever religion you follow, I just hope you don't waste a good amount of your life, because you're never going to get it back.
@mesmorok101 I'll comment on anything I like, subhuman! :D
Atheism is nothingness. It is devoid of any goodness or moral standing. It has no laws nor ethics. And You want to be good for the sake for being good?? O.o Well, please tell me WHO defines "good"..... (I'll give ya a hint there, kid, it is NOT mankind) ;)
@LordWhorfinX2 It is not "devoid of any goodness or moral standing, It has the potential to be, But equally has the potential to not be. I'd say more, but you're making me run outta ideas :P, and i'm tired lol
@mesmorok101 Atheism IS devoid of anything. It literally is nothingness. Believes we came from nothing, that no God exists, nothing after life, nothing nothing nothing...lol
And you're out of ideas because you are a simpleton that can't hold their own in a simple debate. Atheism has no moral standing, law or guidance. It has no laws or ethics. It is nothing.
@LordWhorfinX2 Lol, It follows science, and science doesn't say we come from NOTHING, and i have run out of ideas, yes, But maybe I'm not the best representative for this argument. You're right it doesn't have moral standing, law or guidance, I just personally can't see most religions being the truth, I was raised with a liking to science, it's only natural for my decision to favor it.
@mesmorok101 There is a BIG problem with how atheists choose to view religious people.......That we somehow don't believe in science..lmao! What do you think I believe in? Pixies and fairy dust?! O.o LOL
I was raised in a very scientific household, my father was an engineer, I am in computer animation...etc...
Einstein had a good quote about religion and science....look it up ;)
@LordWhorfinX2 Lol ok first thing first, How are you replying, because ever since they changed the reply system, i go to my inbox, click look at all comments and find your reply O:, is this the way im supposed to do it? and yes a lot of atheist see religious people that way, mainly because most of us find that science and religion are incompatible. science can be compatible with religion, not all of it though. i'm not angry btw, i just like to argue xD
@LordWhorfinX2 that's a good quote, from a very intelligent, both scientific and religious man. and originally back when google just bought youtube, You could just click reply to a reply, but guess not anymore :|
@LordWhorfinX2 "During the youthful period of mankind's spiritual evolution human fantasy created gods in man's own image, who, by the operations of their will were supposed to determine, or at any rate to influence, the phenomenal world. Man sought to alter the disposition of these gods in his own favor by means of magic and prayer. The idea of God in the religions taught at present is a sublimation of that old concept of the gods." -Albert Einstein
@LordWhorfinX2 Did you read it? Basically it means, Gods were made in mans image, the version of god we have today (Monotheism) is just a retelling of the old god myth.
If you read the whole passage the quote is taken from you realize that Einstein is only supporting religion as an original starting point for Science, setting up the original questions science set out to answer, such as where do we come from? Why are we here? Are we alone?
You were trying to say he supported modern religion.
@LordWhorfinX2 Oh no not that Einstein quote. Look, he publicly stated the quote was taken out of context and that he does not believe in a personal god, he used the word as a metaphor. If you believe in science then you do not believe in a literal reading of the bible. The two do not go hand in hand, almost all of the scientific claims made in the bible is false, why believe in a creator god who doesn't even know how his creation works?
"Atheism has no moral standing, law or guidance... no laws or ethics." So what you're saying is that for a person to have all that there must be some supernatural deity that one cannot observe and can only "communicate" with within the confines of their own mind? Absurd! Do animals get their moral guidance from God too? And can they also fall into Satan's trap? Do you NEED to be told by that deity to be good and ethical?
On what are you basing such assumptions? Surely it cannot be religious texts... they are full of violence!
Oh, and for the record it's evolution that defined 'good'... which is still a relative term. There's not such thing as 'good' and 'bad'... only consequences, that depend on what the original situation was!
I was not talking about the beginning of god (although that is a valid question), I was asking you to prove the universe had a beginning. One you have done that we can explore this causal entity you have labeled "god".
Yes and no. The big bang was the beginning of the universe in its current form, however the theory does not state there was nothing before the expansion happened.
Ball of matter is a little off. Time and space were also in this "ball". Not that it could be spherical without any space to expand into, but you get my drift.
@jberling1 It has not been proven the universe had a beginning (though most scientists believe it does) but the idea that if it did leads us to the conclusion that "god did it" is false, have you ever heard of the multiverse theory (in this case the word theory is used as a less scientific version, unlike evolution), it could very well be there are multiple universes, being created constantly, no god required, there is a bit of evidence backing it up, unlike god.
@arithine But how can all that stay in balance...think bout billions of possiblities of any univerese being created and why was it created? How and why do we have a consciousness? I can't say the multi-univerese is false anything is possible (actually that's something I'd love to learn bout) all I'm saying is that everything has to have come from somewhere
I'll grant you "everything must come from somewhere" (though that is not demonstrable), but what about that statement leads to your god any god or yours? What about it leads to a being all? Why is it ok to argue the origin of the universe by proposing an infinitely more complex being, and then say that that being is the base form of existence, and all else springs from that. It just doesn't match observation. As for the rest look it up, just because you don't know doesnt mean other people dont.
@arithine yea I'll have to look into that...read...blech hate reading..but anyways...first we have to think...wat is the beginning of the universe or assuming there is a beginnning...something had to have started it because nothing can start on it's own...cause and effect..
@just4you2see2009 A beginning of what we presently know to be reality, sure, but the big bang also gave birth to time as a physical property, so before the big bang, there was no time, and without time, there can be no 'before'. Just because you can't wrap your own mind around this idea, doesn't mean an invisible man must have done it. There are properties of time that you don't experience on earth (such as time slowing as you travel faster, which is demonstrable).
@just4you2see2009 lol the universe comeing from nowhere makes no sense to you. but the god you believe in, when he comes from nowhere. it all makes perfect sense.
He must share an apartment with the Invisible Pink Unicorn. You must have also visited once or twice, I assume. Since you seem to know God's digs so well.
@just4you2see2009 The only rational answer is human kind does not yet know and we my never know if we keep making up the answers instead of exploring the possibilities.
@just4you2see2009 How is a God who exists outside of time and space which by the way are concepts of science, a rational explanation? if anything that is the most irrational explanation that's made it's way into billions of people's minds.
@just4you2see2009 1: The "first cause" argument has been shot down SO OFTEN that I'm pretty sure you can just google it.
2: assuming there even IS an uncaused causer, why does it have to be a god? Maybe it was a fluctuation in the fabric of spacetime at the quantum level. Maybe it was a dying universe one bubble over that knocked into our metaphysical domino. Maybe it was pixies. "I don't know" is an acceptable answer. "I have NO evidence at all to back it up but it was definitely this" is not.
In the words of Carl Sagan "If you believe that God has existed forever why not remove a step and say the universe existed forever, but if you say god came out of nothingness why not skip a step and say the universe came out of nothingness."
Could you explain to me what the symbol at the end is ? The one with the solid ball inside the upside down U? what does the ball and the curved line represent? Thanks.
No, I'm happy living my life as I see fit - and I see Christianity VERY fit.
Anyways, atheism lacks belief in something - so you guys are based on nothing, and you guys have no hope or optimism. How can you live life thinking that life is just rotting 6 feet under? I feel sorry for you.
NOTHING bout my religion is mind control or "unfit" Belief in God is not crazy because atheists say so -_-
I got nothing against the individual, but the collective belief of nothing instead.
And unlike like evangelists or fundies I do not spread by belief I keep it to myself. That doesn't make me any less faithful, and DEFINITELY any less "delusional". I make straight grades and I'm in MEDICAL SCHOOL. You seem to just throw your weight around as if they are facts - i give opinions
no,REALITY says that believing in god is crazy,has nothing to do with the atheist based opinion.you werent there to witness the birth of the universe yet you live your life according to what youre told god wants when you dont even know it exists or not.youre avoiding common snese.
we are all nothing??i disgree,we are alive and capable of happiness,that isnt NOTHING.
faith IS delusion,faith is not based on experience OR evidence,therefore meaningless.reality is fact.
the same can be said about you christians,you throw your weight around as if your beliefs are facts.the theory of god creating our universe is solely superstitious.indoctinated by the church,most of you annoy us with the "word" of god.
your kind are trained to spread the word of god so as long as you people keep repeating your deluded deity worship we will keep repeating our arguments.
delude:to mislead the mind or judgment of
reality does not mislead...and yes,atheists have a problem,RELIGION
I would say we do have beliefs but we call them theories, that is until they become laws. And we do not think of life as rotting six feet under more like life is short, so try to make it a better place for the next generation, Leave your mark so that you may be remembered and a little bit of me and you may reside in others for eternity.
I keep faith personal, so why should you care if I belive in an afterlife and whether or not I should "prepare" for one?
Anyways I can "leave my mark" here during my life and still retain my faith. I don't think death is nothingness, that's all. And nobody can say it is, since no one knows for sure until they themselves die.
Who knows, death might be nothing or Heaven/Hell - but I have reason to belief that it is Heaven for those who follow God's word? Life is short but Heaven is eternal
How you dare say we are hopeless and without optimism? That's what you would like to think of them, but it is not, each person has her own way of hope and feeling happy. If it is not your way it doesn't mean only you have optimism and faith.
Where to begin with the hypocrisy here? If atheists are nowhere near reality, then what does that make Christians? I mean, let's compare the two for a moment. One is a religion that believes everything it does, sans questioning. Question for a single moment, and you're accused, hated, and threatened with ETERNAL SUFFERING. Then you say people without religion who make observations based on evidence are all wrong
You have to dumb to believe in god, christians always say how god is the most loving and kind and caring being in the entire universe. That he loves everyone so much, and yet this god created the most evil place ever made called "hell".
I agree I'm an atheist. But just to make a point: Many Christians don't believe in a "fiery" hell at all. I was brought up reading theology as well as old "fiery" literature: the position is this:
Fire and brimstone and torment are just metaphors for what hell is. Because hell comes after life, we can't know it. But what is it? Hell is being alone. Hell is rejecting God (for sin and pleasure.. putting ourselves first).
I don't believe this, but my wife left and it's hell.
You know all the people who use the "accidental universe" strawman?
I must state 2 flaws with that argument.
1. If the blad-eh-blad-eh-blah...laws of physics were different, the universe would've collapsed...etc.
...so what, how the fuck would they be the wiser if they didn't exist to muse about it? And, with some unknowns about the universe, who's to say a volatile early universe DIDN'T do this...and several times?
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I regonise this quote the garden one it first quote on god delusion. Here some thing to think about if the garden "world" is really beautiful then why do you have to belive that their fairies "God" at bottom of it . Again is the world Really beautiful look at evil and suffering the corruption. So the reason why some people believe that their fairies "God/ Jesus" is because they see under all that beauty that their slugs,snails, loctus eating away the beauty of god creation.
Silence fool. Speak not of which you do not know. You only think its an assault because it's making you wonder "Why isnt god punishing these people for not believing? Maybe he doesnt exist and thats why theyre not being punished?"
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No I think God give me patience and strength to overcome PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE YOU. Forgiven them because they have not seen the light like I have and help me to see the light. God is good trust me very god he could destroy all you and me as well but he Know that is not the way to get you to love him. I also asking him to here me understand athesist because it puzzle me. God bless you
"I guess the only acceptable thing for us to do is hide in the closet or fein Christianity so that we don't give offence. "
The timing was Christmas. This constitutes the attack aspect. If it were only to advance the atheistic world view there would not have been such timing. We have to share the planet. It is good for everyone to be tolerant of cultural differences don't you think?
I understand that perspective. Many atheists think it was a bad idea. I support it. Our government is secular and posting one religious view over another is endorsing that view and marginalizing the others. There are more of us than you might think and we live here too. I respect your right to worship. I wouldn't break up a church meeting or protest your church, but when the government takes a position on a religious view I have the right to express objection. What do you think?
what's with the symbol? Isn't it bad enough that religious people try to pass off Atheism as another religion without us starting to bradish symbols of our lack of faith?
Doesn't it suck? As a minority atheists naturally gravitate to each other. To resist an overwellming majority of theists atheists must muster what strength they have through the creation of organizations and symbols, yet in so doing they compromise the ability to speak out against religious establishments since atheists themselves have formed their own establishments. It doesn't take a genius theists to be able to argue atheism is trying the replace religion in this respect.
Establishing and organizing aren't the problem. The problem is the mythology of religion which inspires all of the other problems that religion causes.
Don't worry about Atheists organizing. We're the good guys.
My ideal world is one with perhaps some ignorant superstition in the recesses of mankind, but completley devoid of the "ignorant and proud" religious establishment.
"You must be the change you want to see in the world" - Gandhi
As such I would like atheism as a whole to be seen in a better light, but it must be handled delicately. Atheists organizations are no doubt necessary, but they do have unwanted side effects.
Many Atheists love their Atheism. For a lot of us, it wasn't easy to break free from religion, so we take pride in our Atheism.
A symbol is okay. Religion does not have a monopoly on symbolism. Symbolism wasn't the problem with religion anyway.
We avoid the worst parts of religion, starting with their mythology, but organizing and empowering ourselves while taking pride in it enough to show it, none of that is a problem.
Yeah, ok, I'm an atheist, and I have bought a few of Richard Dawkins' books and recognise the speech that quote of him came from and all those photos are awesome, but I just can't get over that the dot under the ellipsoid arch thing just seems too much like it ought to the the symbol of a clit. The other video I see the thumbnail for where its longer and red, so much more so.
you cat trash all religion ....most religions have good intentions at the start and want people to be peaceful...thats not a bad thing..its just when they insist on having the only path to truth when the problems start
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I get you on this one. Many religions will lead you god but i no one that we get to heaven and talks heaven the most. Jesus is gateway to heaven. But us as religious belivers on earth have to find a way of operating without major conflict torrelence. I glad I got saved and start going back to church being athesist was hard for me because if i saw something bad I would have to prayer about it. I am fine peace whenever life tough I seek God/christ. I just wonder how athesist cope.
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THAT ALSO can able to ATHESISTS AS WELL BECAUSE IT A religion so you guy can be delusion as well. God bless. Btw what would you athesist do if you wen you die you find it their a heaven and a hell. coz it I die and I found their was no heaven and hell I WILL JUSt turn in nothing. Jesus love you and would like to bless but he only do that fully wen you accept him. I like being a chrsitian it make me positive.
hmmm... lets say for sake of argument that its a religion... at least we do not praise a fictional character... we do not have a god... and if ever your "god" exist.. then when i die... i go to heaven... didn't your jesus saved everyone from sin? but trust me... you the one who is delusional believing in god that got bored and created you... rather that believing in the theory on evolution... which is much more logical... but i respect you... just like me you stand up for what you believe...
man i love evolution. i look forward to the day religion is wipped out. no more wars, or hate, or killing. Just peace. Well not total peace, but a hell of alot more then there is now.
Same here. Religion is a major and in numerous cases the only reason to why wars are started. There's two types of people I hate: People who make up stories which others take too seriously, and all people who invent or use weapons.
I love this!! Atheists get such a bad rap, and I for one think it's not deserved.
For example, I had someone give this huge lecture to be about why I'm stupid and ignorant and just plain wrong (in reference to atheism) and the second I said "Hey, stop telling me everything was created by an invisible magical superhero in the sky" I got "OH MY LORD, you need to watch your boundaries! Have some respect for others beliefs."
She couldn't understand why I was laughing so hard.
Hmm... I don't see how that's a self-defeating post. Atheists don't typically fight equal rights for homosexuals, free speech, or pornography (and other trivial things). That would be Christian fundies.
""What was your point exactly?"" Atheist negative causes Don't believe in God Don't hold dear your own traditions Don't express them on public property Don't spread your beliefs around Don't believe the Bible If your not interested then just appreciate it for the cultural difference that makes up who we are collectively. But no. What we get from atheists is contempt. atheists basically need to grow up. You share the earth with other people and many believe in God. This will never change
Maybe it's a "love the sinner hate the sin" type thing. It's ironic, I know, but that's how I view religion and religious people. I hate religion, but religious people are pretty alright in my book.
Atheist fundamentalism >religious fundamentalism Now there's a big brag. Go for it. Oh and by the way. "a" = without "theism" = belief in God the inferred belief there is no God is an absolute negative which you would have to go to the ends of the universe to prove. You can not. So Impossibility. Not rational. Not logical. lol
It was a joke. All people who claim to know that there is/isn't a god are deluding themselves, like you said. To claim that Dawkins is a hatemonger is a huge stretch on the truth. Also, the atheist ad campaigns are not from a fundamentalist standpoint. The ones in ReligionIsACrutch's video, at least, are just saying that we don't need a god to be moral and that American atheists aren't alone.
If you are saying that to prove god's existence, or lack thereof, one must go to the ends of the universe you are implying that god, if anywhere, is ONLY at the end of the universe, in the infinite? If god is to be found at the end of the universe or in the infinite you are saying that he is NOT omnipresent. So far, by exploring the universe to the extent we have, we haven't found proof of him, maybe because he's not there? The absence of evidence is the evidence for the absence, hence atheism.
"The absence of evidence is the evidence for the absence, hence atheism" Didn't anyone warn you that connecting your world view to a little jingle is not a good idea. Better if it has logic. Lets say electricity for instance. No evidence really that it is there. Go stick your tongue in a light socket. Oooops that was not evidence of absence was it? You ok? silly atheist. Oh yeah Not just Omnipresent also Sovereign.
How can you say that there's no evidence that electricity exists? It can be measured, and created, therefore it does exist! You are not logical at all.
And if god is omnipresent we don't have to go to the end of the universe to find him, which was my point, which reinforces the fact that because we can't find him/her/it around that it may not be at the end of the universe either. If anywhere, it is in your head. And I am not an atheist, but agnostic-atheist, if you know what the difference is...
I am glad that your understanding of logic and rationality is not the same as mine, and that therefore you don't find continuing with me, for I do NOT adhere to YOUR sense of logic and rationality, which is pretty delusional, flawed, and dolt to those who adhere to Russell's understanding of logic... and by the way, too many denominations for you eh? it's probably hard for someone like you to make sense of them...ciao, and take a hike toots!
I thought I wrote two comments... apparently you didn't read anything else... but anyway, sure sign of bias and illiteracy on your part... you're welcome... where did you get your degree? just so that I don't send my kids over there...
Great commercial.
The only bad part was the "keepin it real" line at the end.
Only low-class people use that phrase.
And the word "keeping" wasn't even spelt correctly.
It's difficult enough as it is, for Atheists to build a positive reputation.
People going to take you seriously, if you sound like an uneducated ghetto-rat when you speak.
In the philosophical and academic communities, you establish your reputation by demonstrating education and intelligence.
SinnFein4ever 3 months ago
@SinnFein4ever "Keepin' " is spelt with an apostrophe to indicate that the "g" is omitted, so in an informal context I fail to see the problem. And you seem to have missed that it's a bit of a pun - atheism is grounded in *reality* (or so we'd say anyway :L) and so involves "keepin' it real", whereas the phrase has another, positive, meaning in an informal context.
I'd agree with you if this were a philosophical treatise, but it's not, it's a YouTube video.
derangedyoshi 3 months ago
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Your point is taken.
SinnFein4ever 3 months ago
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Wow God is an awesome creator. Just simply Awesome. Atheism...... Blows.
BaconJeffrey 9 months ago
Wow God is an awesome creator. Just simply Awesome. Atheism...... Blows.
BaconJeffrey 9 months ago
@BaconJeffrey You fail at trolling, by the way.
paireon 7 months ago
I am atheist becuse i've developed critical thinking and im not naive
Religon came from writings used to give example of ideal human behavor but where taken to literaly and were combined into the holy testement which i view as a dr.sues book
And now they are scared that the will loose followers and thus loose money becuse god cost more than oil
GunloverClark 1 year ago
Beautiful! :) This is also I feel about the world. Nice choice of quote too.
ah! but... we can't hear it well behind the beat of the music... :)
Pollypo66 1 year ago
Now that we are out of the dark ages of some medieval ignorance and fundamentalism, I donnot understand the existence of need for a proselitism of atheism. Though this ad is OK unlike most others, does atheism need proselitism? Is the next step burning believers on the stake?
7Averroes7 1 year ago
Keepin it real
canesrule96 1 year ago
that was LEGEN- wait for it
DARY!
aslglados 1 year ago
The burden of proof is on the believers... atheist do not have to prove God doesnt exist, Theists have to prove that he does. You never prove something doesnt exist because if it doesnt... then it doesnt. But if it does exist and is just hard to see, or know. Then you must prove that it does. So dont ask us to prove his non-existance. For our proof is that we do not believe... we have nothing to make us believe. Im sure this sounds redundant and repetitive, but I mean no harm in this valid point
NebojsaAlexandrovsk 1 year ago
@NebojsaAlexandrovsk yeah, but atheists cannot prove their beliefs are true. Atheism isn't correct. IF it is, please prove it.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 I can no more provide to you evidence in the favour of Atheism that would satisfy you then you can provide evidence of Religion to satisfy me... thus this argument/debate is moot from the start. We both know it..
NebojsaAlexandrovsk 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Please prove that Religion, any besides a select few which have no gods or deities, such as Buddhism, is correct. And you're asking for proof about finding proof that religion has no proof, Which it does not. And if you count the bible, or other religious texts and scriptures, then we can count Anything you can find in a high school textbook, to anything that happens around you, Atheism isn't a religion, it's science.
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@mesmorok101 You can't prove atheism is correct? Thank you for providing all that people need to see that atheism is a lie.
Also, answering a quesiton with a question is pathetic.
Atheism believes nothing, offers nothing, provides nothing and in the end IS nothing.
I feel badly for you......I really do.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 1: there is no question in my last post, and you can't prove that religion is correct either, actually, i should say that atheism, has almost an infinite amount of proof, Because it is Science. If you believe in religion so much, why don't you school, or not send your children, if you have, to school, Because the two are incompatible, Atheism is believing nothing, you're correct about one thing, but that frees you up from false delusions.
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 those delusions, only provide false hope, Unless you can prove that there is a god. Atheism allows me to live my life to the fullest, as people who believe in an afterlife might not. trying to make yourself sound like someone on a higher pedestal by showing pity, is low. Nice try, but i don't buy all that junk you put in your comment that was just a way to fill space. I have nothing against religion, But don't badmouth Atheism.
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 So don't comment on my comment, and comment about the subject, also, I would much rather be good, for the sake of being good, rather than be good because some Religious idol told me to. I respect whatever religion you follow, I just hope you don't waste a good amount of your life, because you're never going to get it back.
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@mesmorok101 I'll comment on anything I like, subhuman! :D
Atheism is nothingness. It is devoid of any goodness or moral standing. It has no laws nor ethics. And You want to be good for the sake for being good?? O.o Well, please tell me WHO defines "good"..... (I'll give ya a hint there, kid, it is NOT mankind) ;)
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 It is not "devoid of any goodness or moral standing, It has the potential to be, But equally has the potential to not be. I'd say more, but you're making me run outta ideas :P, and i'm tired lol
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@mesmorok101 Atheism IS devoid of anything. It literally is nothingness. Believes we came from nothing, that no God exists, nothing after life, nothing nothing nothing...lol
And you're out of ideas because you are a simpleton that can't hold their own in a simple debate. Atheism has no moral standing, law or guidance. It has no laws or ethics. It is nothing.
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Lol, It follows science, and science doesn't say we come from NOTHING, and i have run out of ideas, yes, But maybe I'm not the best representative for this argument. You're right it doesn't have moral standing, law or guidance, I just personally can't see most religions being the truth, I was raised with a liking to science, it's only natural for my decision to favor it.
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@mesmorok101 There is a BIG problem with how atheists choose to view religious people.......That we somehow don't believe in science..lmao! What do you think I believe in? Pixies and fairy dust?! O.o LOL
I was raised in a very scientific household, my father was an engineer, I am in computer animation...etc...
Einstein had a good quote about religion and science....look it up ;)
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Lol ok first thing first, How are you replying, because ever since they changed the reply system, i go to my inbox, click look at all comments and find your reply O:, is this the way im supposed to do it? and yes a lot of atheist see religious people that way, mainly because most of us find that science and religion are incompatible. science can be compatible with religion, not all of it though. i'm not angry btw, i just like to argue xD
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@mesmorok101 Replying? Nothing has changed on my end... O.o
Also,,,,
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein
LordWhorfinX2 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 that's a good quote, from a very intelligent, both scientific and religious man. and originally back when google just bought youtube, You could just click reply to a reply, but guess not anymore :|
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2 "During the youthful period of mankind's spiritual evolution human fantasy created gods in man's own image, who, by the operations of their will were supposed to determine, or at any rate to influence, the phenomenal world. Man sought to alter the disposition of these gods in his own favor by means of magic and prayer. The idea of God in the religions taught at present is a sublimation of that old concept of the gods." -Albert Einstein
A few sentences after your quote.
arithine 10 months ago
@arithine Your random copy/paste comment doesn't change the meaning of what I posted. So what is your point?
LordWhorfinX2 10 months ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Did you read it? Basically it means, Gods were made in mans image, the version of god we have today (Monotheism) is just a retelling of the old god myth.
If you read the whole passage the quote is taken from you realize that Einstein is only supporting religion as an original starting point for Science, setting up the original questions science set out to answer, such as where do we come from? Why are we here? Are we alone?
You were trying to say he supported modern religion.
arithine 10 months ago
@LordWhorfinX2 Oh no not that Einstein quote. Look, he publicly stated the quote was taken out of context and that he does not believe in a personal god, he used the word as a metaphor. If you believe in science then you do not believe in a literal reading of the bible. The two do not go hand in hand, almost all of the scientific claims made in the bible is false, why believe in a creator god who doesn't even know how his creation works?
arithine 10 months ago
@LordWhorfinX2
"Atheism has no moral standing, law or guidance... no laws or ethics." So what you're saying is that for a person to have all that there must be some supernatural deity that one cannot observe and can only "communicate" with within the confines of their own mind? Absurd! Do animals get their moral guidance from God too? And can they also fall into Satan's trap? Do you NEED to be told by that deity to be good and ethical?
Spetsop 1 year ago
@LordWhorfinX2
On what are you basing such assumptions? Surely it cannot be religious texts... they are full of violence!
Oh, and for the record it's evolution that defined 'good'... which is still a relative term. There's not such thing as 'good' and 'bad'... only consequences, that depend on what the original situation was!
Spetsop 1 year ago
cool ad and even cooler song. Does anyone know the name or artist or the song?
Dare2Blink 1 year ago
@Dare2Blink Music is by "The Crystal Method" and is title song from the album "London".
askegg 1 year ago
This is gorgeous. Reality FTW!
VulcanFleet 1 year ago
I like the symbol. I've never seen it before.
kahlobloodline 1 year ago
"The only RATIONAL explanation is a God..."
Hahaha, good one.
Lakeportable 2 years ago
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So how did the universe start?
The only rational explanation is a God who exists outside of Time and Space.
just4you2see2009 2 years ago
Worst. Argument. Ever.
First demonstrate there *is* a beginning.
askegg 2 years ago 3
Worst. Response. Ever.
This is no beginning, God exists outside of the concept of "beginning."
just4you2see2009 2 years ago
I was not talking about the beginning of god (although that is a valid question), I was asking you to prove the universe had a beginning. One you have done that we can explore this causal entity you have labeled "god".
askegg 2 years ago 7
I believe the big bang theory points towards a beginning.
just4you2see2009 2 years ago
Yes and no. The big bang was the beginning of the universe in its current form, however the theory does not state there was nothing before the expansion happened.
IFE10M 2 years ago
it states that there was a super dense ball of matter that did not abide by our current laws of physics. look up planck epoch
jberling1 2 years ago
Ball of matter is a little off. Time and space were also in this "ball". Not that it could be spherical without any space to expand into, but you get my drift.
IFE10M 2 years ago
@jberling1 It has not been proven the universe had a beginning (though most scientists believe it does) but the idea that if it did leads us to the conclusion that "god did it" is false, have you ever heard of the multiverse theory (in this case the word theory is used as a less scientific version, unlike evolution), it could very well be there are multiple universes, being created constantly, no god required, there is a bit of evidence backing it up, unlike god.
arithine 10 months ago
@arithine But how can all that stay in balance...think bout billions of possiblities of any univerese being created and why was it created? How and why do we have a consciousness? I can't say the multi-univerese is false anything is possible (actually that's something I'd love to learn bout) all I'm saying is that everything has to have come from somewhere
santanaramostarango 6 months ago
I'll grant you "everything must come from somewhere" (though that is not demonstrable), but what about that statement leads to your god any god or yours? What about it leads to a being all? Why is it ok to argue the origin of the universe by proposing an infinitely more complex being, and then say that that being is the base form of existence, and all else springs from that. It just doesn't match observation. As for the rest look it up, just because you don't know doesnt mean other people dont.
arithine 6 months ago
@arithine yea I'll have to look into that...read...blech hate reading..but anyways...first we have to think...wat is the beginning of the universe or assuming there is a beginnning...something had to have started it because nothing can start on it's own...cause and effect..
santanaramostarango 6 months ago
i believe creationism points towards a beginning of stupidity and ignorance.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
@just4you2see2009 A beginning of what we presently know to be reality, sure, but the big bang also gave birth to time as a physical property, so before the big bang, there was no time, and without time, there can be no 'before'. Just because you can't wrap your own mind around this idea, doesn't mean an invisible man must have done it. There are properties of time that you don't experience on earth (such as time slowing as you travel faster, which is demonstrable).
JD2005 1 year ago
@askegg Oh Snap! one year and no response back ! "worst response is a speechless one"
01RoboDemon 1 year ago
@just4you2see2009 Why should God exist outside of the concept of "beginning"? Because you don't have an answer? How convenient.
bookwormsrcool 1 year ago
@just4you2see2009 lol the universe comeing from nowhere makes no sense to you. but the god you believe in, when he comes from nowhere. it all makes perfect sense.
BigMidget06 1 year ago
@just4you2see2009
He must share an apartment with the Invisible Pink Unicorn. You must have also visited once or twice, I assume. Since you seem to know God's digs so well.
AspiringPotato 10 months ago
yeah,because he is a waste of both.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
@just4you2see2009 If I decided to write a book about what god said to me, would you wrap your life around it?
6StringedxBrewtality 1 year ago
@just4you2see2009 have you ever asked yourself why u need god to exist so badly?
honkyxadonis 1 year ago
@just4you2see2009 The only rational answer is human kind does not yet know and we my never know if we keep making up the answers instead of exploring the possibilities.
krissy4nik 1 year ago
@just4you2see2009 How is a God who exists outside of time and space which by the way are concepts of science, a rational explanation? if anything that is the most irrational explanation that's made it's way into billions of people's minds.
mesmorok101 1 year ago
@just4you2see2009 1: The "first cause" argument has been shot down SO OFTEN that I'm pretty sure you can just google it.
2: assuming there even IS an uncaused causer, why does it have to be a god? Maybe it was a fluctuation in the fabric of spacetime at the quantum level. Maybe it was a dying universe one bubble over that knocked into our metaphysical domino. Maybe it was pixies. "I don't know" is an acceptable answer. "I have NO evidence at all to back it up but it was definitely this" is not.
swiggydiggy 10 months ago
@just4you2see2009
Be a bit more creative then that...come on.
DeconversionCentral 4 months ago
Loved it! :D
globalchaos1984 2 years ago
In the words of Carl Sagan "If you believe that God has existed forever why not remove a step and say the universe existed forever, but if you say god came out of nothingness why not skip a step and say the universe came out of nothingness."
Faxlier 2 years ago
Could you explain to me what the symbol at the end is ? The one with the solid ball inside the upside down U? what does the ball and the curved line represent? Thanks.
joyville2 2 years ago
it is a symbol for athiesm
jberling1 2 years ago
What was that Bump/Tentacle at the end? Real weird that was.
I'm all for a no-symbol atheism. Symbols should mean something - like the "Darwin fish" with legs - a pro-evolution symbol.
8DX 2 years ago
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Christianity. Keepin' it real.
Masterofxtreme93 2 years ago
keeping it imaginary more like, Masterofxtreme93
griffin7564 2 years ago
whatever makes you sleep easier at night griffin.
Masterofxtreme93 2 years ago
you only sleep easier because youre willfully ignorant.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
No, I'm happy living my life as I see fit - and I see Christianity VERY fit.
Anyways, atheism lacks belief in something - so you guys are based on nothing, and you guys have no hope or optimism. How can you live life thinking that life is just rotting 6 feet under? I feel sorry for you.
Masterofxtreme93 2 years ago
hahaha,you asshole... and you scumbags demand respect for your beliefs?
you feel sorry for me uh,having a clear perception of reality is nothing to be sympathetic of Master,youre delusional.
and no,religion is VERY mentally unfit.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
NOTHING bout my religion is mind control or "unfit" Belief in God is not crazy because atheists say so -_-
I got nothing against the individual, but the collective belief of nothing instead.
And unlike like evangelists or fundies I do not spread by belief I keep it to myself. That doesn't make me any less faithful, and DEFINITELY any less "delusional". I make straight grades and I'm in MEDICAL SCHOOL. You seem to just throw your weight around as if they are facts - i give opinions
Masterofxtreme93 2 years ago
no,REALITY says that believing in god is crazy,has nothing to do with the atheist based opinion.you werent there to witness the birth of the universe yet you live your life according to what youre told god wants when you dont even know it exists or not.youre avoiding common snese.
we are all nothing??i disgree,we are alive and capable of happiness,that isnt NOTHING.
faith IS delusion,faith is not based on experience OR evidence,therefore meaningless.reality is fact.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
the same can be said about you christians,you throw your weight around as if your beliefs are facts.the theory of god creating our universe is solely superstitious.indoctinated by the church,most of you annoy us with the "word" of god.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
And people like YOU annoy people like ME with the "delusionaL" arugment.
so I think both christians and atheists have problems - lets not get arrogant, you know very well there are evagenlist atheists. Isn't that ironic?
Masterofxtreme93 2 years ago
your kind are trained to spread the word of god so as long as you people keep repeating your deluded deity worship we will keep repeating our arguments.
delude:to mislead the mind or judgment of
reality does not mislead...and yes,atheists have a problem,RELIGION
TLSlayer 2 years ago 3
@Masterofxtreme93 i agree that all fundies that take the bible literaly r delusional but yes theres delusional atheist just not as many
patrickledford420 1 year ago
I would say we do have beliefs but we call them theories, that is until they become laws. And we do not think of life as rotting six feet under more like life is short, so try to make it a better place for the next generation, Leave your mark so that you may be remembered and a little bit of me and you may reside in others for eternity.
jberling1 2 years ago
I keep faith personal, so why should you care if I belive in an afterlife and whether or not I should "prepare" for one?
Anyways I can "leave my mark" here during my life and still retain my faith. I don't think death is nothingness, that's all. And nobody can say it is, since no one knows for sure until they themselves die.
Who knows, death might be nothing or Heaven/Hell - but I have reason to belief that it is Heaven for those who follow God's word? Life is short but Heaven is eternal
Masterofxtreme93 2 years ago
How you dare say we are hopeless and without optimism? That's what you would like to think of them, but it is not, each person has her own way of hope and feeling happy. If it is not your way it doesn't mean only you have optimism and faith.
Mirrorbeholding 1 year ago
@Mirrorbeholding ....you do realize that I'm done talking to the people here on this video right? My last comment in this place was 4 months ago...
Masterofxtreme93 1 year ago
Paul invented Jesus! its true! once you explore this fact and find the virtual transparent evidence (hidden in plain sight, so to speak :) )
you too can free yourselves.. you dont owe Paul ANYTHING
pearana 2 years ago
and BTW, the internet is the antichrist...
christianity: believing that you already have the answers
anti (opposite) christ: actually using shared information to find the truth (answers)
internet=antichrist
guess you christains better stop using it!
actually, you must have not really "used" it since, hehe, you're still christians.. ah, the irony
pearana 2 years ago
I want a "Keeping It Real/Atheism" bumper sticker.
davidls11 2 years ago 28
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Nice video. 5 stars.
DOWN WITH ALL RELIGIONS!
420ALI3N 2 years ago 3
The link in the info bar is not working :(
Love the ad though, beautiful, and "Atheism: Keeping it Real" is made of epic win
thatballguy 2 years ago 3
Positive. Read: condescending.
DominicBuchholz 2 years ago
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Atheists who deny God are no where NEAR reality.
BuzzMcTank 2 years ago
Where to begin with the hypocrisy here? If atheists are nowhere near reality, then what does that make Christians? I mean, let's compare the two for a moment. One is a religion that believes everything it does, sans questioning. Question for a single moment, and you're accused, hated, and threatened with ETERNAL SUFFERING. Then you say people without religion who make observations based on evidence are all wrong
sonic8005 2 years ago 5
Reality? Show me your god, then we shall start talking about reality.
askegg 2 years ago
and by what logic did you come to that conclusion? i submit that i can intellectually destroy your beliefs in the course of a few messages.
jesuscumbucket 2 years ago
what do you call "near reality?"
jesuscumbucket 2 years ago
Not real
M3IZI 2 years ago
You have to dumb to believe in god, christians always say how god is the most loving and kind and caring being in the entire universe. That he loves everyone so much, and yet this god created the most evil place ever made called "hell".
bombarderoazul 2 years ago
I agree I'm an atheist. But just to make a point: Many Christians don't believe in a "fiery" hell at all. I was brought up reading theology as well as old "fiery" literature: the position is this:
Fire and brimstone and torment are just metaphors for what hell is. Because hell comes after life, we can't know it. But what is it? Hell is being alone. Hell is rejecting God (for sin and pleasure.. putting ourselves first).
I don't believe this, but my wife left and it's hell.
8DX 2 years ago
Ignorance is bliss. I too am an athiest but know your facts. Christianity's God did not create hell.
Chocobo49 2 years ago
i cant understand what dawkins says because the background music is to loud
6ch6ris6 2 years ago
"isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful, without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too"
handiman74 2 years ago 21
LOL "Keepin' it real" Best slogan ever for an athiest ad. 5 stars!
ChaoticSupernova 2 years ago 5
You know all the people who use the "accidental universe" strawman?
I must state 2 flaws with that argument.
1. If the blad-eh-blad-eh-blah...laws of physics were different, the universe would've collapsed...etc.
...so what, how the fuck would they be the wiser if they didn't exist to muse about it? And, with some unknowns about the universe, who's to say a volatile early universe DIDN'T do this...and several times?
It's doubtful...but STILL.
lisamariefan 2 years ago
Don't forget about multi-verses. Perhaps there is a universe for every conceivable configuration? Who knows?
askegg 2 years ago
Dawkins's voice, but the quote is by Douglas Adams.
flickeringsoftly 2 years ago 3
Haha keepin' it real. Thats a good one.
I wish the poster boy for atheism (dawkins) had a bit of a butch voice. It'd be awesome if dawkins sounded like a fucking lumberjack.
That being said, I like dawkins and his books.
This video was pretty cool too.
LatumWay 2 years ago
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I regonise this quote the garden one it first quote on god delusion. Here some thing to think about if the garden "world" is really beautiful then why do you have to belive that their fairies "God" at bottom of it . Again is the world Really beautiful look at evil and suffering the corruption. So the reason why some people believe that their fairies "God/ Jesus" is because they see under all that beauty that their slugs,snails, loctus eating away the beauty of god creation.
GiaDTWLnG 2 years ago
Nice vid! 5 stars for the importance of the message!
markjones8913 2 years ago
One of my favorite quotes from Douglas Adams.
WatanukiProductions 2 years ago 4
we are only 1 step from chaos, what will you have then?
AllenFTW 2 years ago
Chaos?
askegg 2 years ago
Atheist assault on Christianity is blatantly proclaimed in their poster and television ad campaigns.
Perfectly galvanizing Christians providing the very boost Christianity needed to bring themselves back to the simple truths of the cross.
Differences amongst believers are being discarded for the larger good.
Haa zaaah!
Thank you atheists!
sojoyful 3 years ago
Silence fool. Speak not of which you do not know. You only think its an assault because it's making you wonder "Why isnt god punishing these people for not believing? Maybe he doesnt exist and thats why theyre not being punished?"
AtheistBrad 2 years ago
watch your meanness level, man.
JimmytheWalrus 2 years ago
the beginning of that comment was sarcasm =D Much like a church official ostracizing someone, that sort of tone.
AtheistBrad 2 years ago
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No I think God give me patience and strength to overcome PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE YOU. Forgiven them because they have not seen the light like I have and help me to see the light. God is good trust me very god he could destroy all you and me as well but he Know that is not the way to get you to love him. I also asking him to here me understand athesist because it puzzle me. God bless you
GiaDTWLnG 2 years ago
I love how every thing an atheist does is an "attack".
I guess the only acceptable thing for us to do is hide in the closet or fein Christianity so that we don't give offence.
JEFFtheATHEIST 2 years ago
"I guess the only acceptable thing for us to do is hide in the closet or fein Christianity so that we don't give offence. "
The timing was Christmas. This constitutes the attack aspect. If it were only to advance the atheistic world view there would not have been such timing. We have to share the planet. It is good for everyone to be tolerant of cultural differences don't you think?
sojoyful 2 years ago
I understand that perspective. Many atheists think it was a bad idea. I support it. Our government is secular and posting one religious view over another is endorsing that view and marginalizing the others. There are more of us than you might think and we live here too. I respect your right to worship. I wouldn't break up a church meeting or protest your church, but when the government takes a position on a religious view I have the right to express objection. What do you think?
JEFFtheATHEIST 2 years ago
well then couldn't we say that you Christians are posing an even greater assault by trying to constantly convert everyone (not only atheists )
zmod101 2 years ago 2
"Haa zaaah!"
LOL
getupkids26 2 years ago
EXCELENT WORK!!!and so thrue!!
enpaprobertvagyok 3 years ago
what's with the symbol? Isn't it bad enough that religious people try to pass off Atheism as another religion without us starting to bradish symbols of our lack of faith?
Pottan23 3 years ago 2
Doesn't it suck? As a minority atheists naturally gravitate to each other. To resist an overwellming majority of theists atheists must muster what strength they have through the creation of organizations and symbols, yet in so doing they compromise the ability to speak out against religious establishments since atheists themselves have formed their own establishments. It doesn't take a genius theists to be able to argue atheism is trying the replace religion in this respect.
SpazzyMcGee1336 3 years ago
Establishing and organizing aren't the problem. The problem is the mythology of religion which inspires all of the other problems that religion causes.
Don't worry about Atheists organizing. We're the good guys.
aajoeyjo 3 years ago
"We're the good guys".
The theists would argue the inverse.
My ideal world is one with perhaps some ignorant superstition in the recesses of mankind, but completley devoid of the "ignorant and proud" religious establishment.
"You must be the change you want to see in the world" - Gandhi
As such I would like atheism as a whole to be seen in a better light, but it must be handled delicately. Atheists organizations are no doubt necessary, but they do have unwanted side effects.
SpazzyMcGee1336 3 years ago
Many Atheists love their Atheism. For a lot of us, it wasn't easy to break free from religion, so we take pride in our Atheism.
A symbol is okay. Religion does not have a monopoly on symbolism. Symbolism wasn't the problem with religion anyway.
We avoid the worst parts of religion, starting with their mythology, but organizing and empowering ourselves while taking pride in it enough to show it, none of that is a problem.
I think most symbols are secular anyway.
aajoeyjo 3 years ago
go atheists as a reaction to beleavers, before turning agnostic! time to counter the systematic childhood indoctrination
RixeDNB 3 years ago
Yupp.
Spanky00Cheeks 3 years ago
You made the audio clip of Dawkins talking too quiet, it was hard to hear. Other than that, good video.
Jotto999 3 years ago
Yeah, ok, I'm an atheist, and I have bought a few of Richard Dawkins' books and recognise the speech that quote of him came from and all those photos are awesome, but I just can't get over that the dot under the ellipsoid arch thing just seems too much like it ought to the the symbol of a clit. The other video I see the thumbnail for where its longer and red, so much more so.
GBanville 3 years ago
I think a circle would be a better symbol. Represents Earth or us being a whole - With no God. Turns out the Buddhists use it though :(
manchester26m 3 years ago
you cat trash all religion ....most religions have good intentions at the start and want people to be peaceful...thats not a bad thing..its just when they insist on having the only path to truth when the problems start
yharyhar8 3 years ago
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I get you on this one. Many religions will lead you god but i no one that we get to heaven and talks heaven the most. Jesus is gateway to heaven. But us as religious belivers on earth have to find a way of operating without major conflict torrelence. I glad I got saved and start going back to church being athesist was hard for me because if i saw something bad I would have to prayer about it. I am fine peace whenever life tough I seek God/christ. I just wonder how athesist cope.
GiaDTWLnG 2 years ago
I really like this one!
biggregg5 3 years ago
very good. we need more of this....
morbidmoments93 3 years ago
If only we could get this on TV, with a clearer hearing of Dawkins. It would be great.
JazzieKieten 3 years ago
i couldn't understand what the man was saying
JeansTake 3 years ago
"Isn't it enough to see that the garden is beautiful without believing there are fairies at the bottom of it too?"
askegg 3 years ago
Nice accent, irish? >.>
Cool advert, good message.
Surathan 3 years ago
It is the voice of Richard Dawkins.
x1tekja 3 years ago
Is he Irish? cuz I like his accent >_>
Surathan 3 years ago
agnostic-atheist, and damn proud of it!
"When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion."
- Robert M. Pirsig
jedikitty 3 years ago
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THAT ALSO can able to ATHESISTS AS WELL BECAUSE IT A religion so you guy can be delusion as well. God bless. Btw what would you athesist do if you wen you die you find it their a heaven and a hell. coz it I die and I found their was no heaven and hell I WILL JUSt turn in nothing. Jesus love you and would like to bless but he only do that fully wen you accept him. I like being a chrsitian it make me positive.
GiaDTWLnG 2 years ago
What if you die and face Allah? What do you do then, when he sends your kufar soul to to hell?
GnosticAtheist 2 years ago 2
hmmm... lets say for sake of argument that its a religion... at least we do not praise a fictional character... we do not have a god... and if ever your "god" exist.. then when i die... i go to heaven... didn't your jesus saved everyone from sin? but trust me... you the one who is delusional believing in god that got bored and created you... rather that believing in the theory on evolution... which is much more logical... but i respect you... just like me you stand up for what you believe...
mikecute7 2 years ago
man i love evolution. i look forward to the day religion is wipped out. no more wars, or hate, or killing. Just peace. Well not total peace, but a hell of alot more then there is now.
bobby472 3 years ago 2
Same here. Religion is a major and in numerous cases the only reason to why wars are started. There's two types of people I hate: People who make up stories which others take too seriously, and all people who invent or use weapons.
JimEGriffy 3 years ago
same for me. the world would be better off with out both of those things.
bobby472 3 years ago
:41 A symbol for atheism?
Truth118 3 years ago
I love this!! Atheists get such a bad rap, and I for one think it's not deserved.
For example, I had someone give this huge lecture to be about why I'm stupid and ignorant and just plain wrong (in reference to atheism) and the second I said "Hey, stop telling me everything was created by an invisible magical superhero in the sky" I got "OH MY LORD, you need to watch your boundaries! Have some respect for others beliefs."
She couldn't understand why I was laughing so hard.
justXcorinne 3 years ago 3
was it then that you realized you were talking to an imbecile?
don't worry, you are NOT alone ha ha.
JunglyGirl 2 years ago
Atheism.
Group think.
Keeping it in line.
They have a Dawkin God
Who wrote a wee book that was on a best seller list once. A long time ago.
Purpose of reform atheist revival movement=
Contempt for religion.
Nice negative cause.
congratulations.
sojoyful 3 years ago
Come to my channel and argue your bankrupt and utterly spurious case, I dare you. I just dare you.
JmkLcAeJsm 3 years ago 2
At least we have ecidence for Dawkins' existence!!
Haha, just playing along. I don't even like Dawkins much as an atheist.
Speaking of negative causes:
"Don't let homos get married!"
"Don't work on Sunday!"
"Don't eat shellfish!"
"Don't listen to that evil rap music!"
"Don't look at porn!"
"Don't let atheists express free speech!"
I hope I covered your particular religion in that list...
ssnatcherss 3 years ago
"Speaking of negative causes:
"Don't let homos get married!"
"Don't work on Sunday!"
"Don't eat shellfish!"
"Don't listen to that evil rap music!"
"Don't look at porn!"
"Don't let atheists express free speech!""
Can you say 'self defeating post'?
Thank you for proving my point.
sojoyful 3 years ago
Hmm... I don't see how that's a self-defeating post. Atheists don't typically fight equal rights for homosexuals, free speech, or pornography (and other trivial things). That would be Christian fundies.
What was your point exactly?
ssnatcherss 3 years ago
sojoyful 3 years ago
ps
IMO, Dawkins is insane.
This will eventually be clear I believe.
IMO, Following him is like following Hitler.
He "HATES" God believers IMO.
Look at his snarling expression whenever he is interviewing the religious.
He is the Ted Haggard of Atheism.
Good luck with that.
sojoyful 3 years ago
"He "HATES" God believers IMO."
Maybe it's a "love the sinner hate the sin" type thing. It's ironic, I know, but that's how I view religion and religious people. I hate religion, but religious people are pretty alright in my book.
ssnatcherss 3 years ago
"love the sinner hate the sin"
Don't think so.
Haven't watched many of his videos eh?
Dawkins = hatemonger
sojoyful 3 years ago
Atheist Poster Campaign = atheist fundamentalism.
lol
sojoyful 3 years ago
Atheist fundamentalism >religious fundamentalism
SHSH1212 3 years ago
sojoyful 3 years ago
It was a joke. All people who claim to know that there is/isn't a god are deluding themselves, like you said. To claim that Dawkins is a hatemonger is a huge stretch on the truth. Also, the atheist ad campaigns are not from a fundamentalist standpoint. The ones in ReligionIsACrutch's video, at least, are just saying that we don't need a god to be moral and that American atheists aren't alone.
SHSH1212 3 years ago 3
If you are saying that to prove god's existence, or lack thereof, one must go to the ends of the universe you are implying that god, if anywhere, is ONLY at the end of the universe, in the infinite? If god is to be found at the end of the universe or in the infinite you are saying that he is NOT omnipresent. So far, by exploring the universe to the extent we have, we haven't found proof of him, maybe because he's not there? The absence of evidence is the evidence for the absence, hence atheism.
jordisanchis 3 years ago
sojoyful 3 years ago
How can you say that there's no evidence that electricity exists? It can be measured, and created, therefore it does exist! You are not logical at all.
And if god is omnipresent we don't have to go to the end of the universe to find him, which was my point, which reinforces the fact that because we can't find him/her/it around that it may not be at the end of the universe either. If anywhere, it is in your head. And I am not an atheist, but agnostic-atheist, if you know what the difference is...
jordisanchis 3 years ago
"And I am not an atheist, but agnostic-atheist, if you know what the difference is..."
Waaaay too many denominations eh?
any hoo.
You don't want to adhere to principals of logic and rationality.
So there is no logic in continuing with you.
Bye
sojoyful 3 years ago
I am glad that your understanding of logic and rationality is not the same as mine, and that therefore you don't find continuing with me, for I do NOT adhere to YOUR sense of logic and rationality, which is pretty delusional, flawed, and dolt to those who adhere to Russell's understanding of logic... and by the way, too many denominations for you eh? it's probably hard for someone like you to make sense of them...ciao, and take a hike toots!
jordisanchis 3 years ago
and it's principles not principals... Cheezuz!!
jordisanchis 3 years ago
"and it's principles not principals..."
Nothing left but spell corrections.
Sure sign of defeat.
Thank you.
sojoyful 3 years ago
I thought I wrote two comments... apparently you didn't read anything else... but anyway, sure sign of bias and illiteracy on your part... you're welcome... where did you get your degree? just so that I don't send my kids over there...
jordisanchis 3 years ago