Brahms liked this symphony just Eduard Hanslick the music critic made negative comments about it, he said: "This work is like witches' sabbath where there are wolves howing to the moon", Whatever this symphony is so amazing
@mo0o0o0ose sure he did... all musicians are inspired by other musicians. Don't quote me here but as I remember Bruckner said he was influenced heavily by Wagner.
I can't compare to Karajan, as i don't have his Bruckner 6th. Celibidache is here actually faster than Klemperer (EMI) but somewhat slower than Skrowaczewksi (Arte Nova), the two commercial recordings I have in iTunes.
I've also got a truly amazing live recording of this symphony (Nowak, not Haas) with Bernstein and the NYPO. Lenny didn't conduct Bruckner much, recording only the 9th commercially, and always claimed Karajan's performances couldn't be bettered.
You might consider when you are spouting who's on first that Mahler was a STUDENT of Bruckner and a great admirer of his works. We all learn from each other . Some more than others. LIsten to the adagio here and thing of Mahler's 5th Symphony adagio. Mahler was not a plagerist he was the student who equaled his teacher . Both are profound but they are diferent in their outooks.
This is far and away my favorite Bruckner symphony. It has both great tunes and contrasts in light and dark. Mahler undoubtedly learned much from this work.
@Mahlerialiszt : MAHLER IS MAHLER - BRUCKNER IS BRUCKNER!!! WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE WHAT WAS IN WHOSE MIND FIRST??? YOU GOT SOMETHING IN YOUR REPETOIRE THAT WE CAN CRITIQUE!?
@SordidGuy Bruckner completed the 6th in 1881, 8 years before Mahler completed his first symphony. The timeline simply doesn't support that Mahler would have had any influence on Bruckner. Mahler was known to admire Bruckner, and conducted his symphonies. While nobody with more than rudimentary training would mistake Mahler for Bruckner, there is a discernible influence, especially in the brass writing. Of course, both composers were prfoundly influenced by both Beethoven and Wagner.
This is one of the very finest performances of any Bruckner symphony. As always, Maestro Celibidache is able to plumb the spiritual depths of Bruckner in a way few conductors ever have, and he elicits consistently beautiful playing from the Munich Philharmonic in this bravura performance. The 6th is an unjustly neglected masterpiece, and I hope this exposure will help it get the recognition it deserves. I urge viewers to play all the way through to the glorious finale. Thanks for the upload.
In my opinion, this is Bruckner's most colorful and vibrant symphony. He pulled off a great success with this piece, because he has incorporated his typical use of dark sounding phrases in minor keys, with many chromatic key changes into bright, happy majors. It's a variety you usually don't see in the previous Bruckner symphonies, it seems to me like the earlier ones were extremely dramatic - very happy or very sad sounding, and this one's got the best of both emotions.
I saw this symphony recently conducted by Bloomsted in San Francisco and in this version you can listen every melody, that can be hidden with faster tempis, and more dense playing.
you are right on what you said. Karajan did not follow Furtwangler school or Wagnerian School of sound. Karajan was slowly deleting that school from German Orchestras, he did more international sound to compete with recordings in US.
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rickmcclure1229 1 month ago
Brahms liked this symphony just Eduard Hanslick the music critic made negative comments about it, he said: "This work is like witches' sabbath where there are wolves howing to the moon", Whatever this symphony is so amazing
seponvi 4 months ago
we just heard it with our 12th graders in leipzig and all loved it so.
iLoveCheerLL 6 months ago
compare this to the star wars motive.... - you see? williams invented nothing new.
mo0o0o0ose 9 months ago
@mo0o0o0ose sure he did... all musicians are inspired by other musicians. Don't quote me here but as I remember Bruckner said he was influenced heavily by Wagner.
desvio2000 7 months ago
@mo0o0o0ose Don't say any famous sonorous column of the film Lawrence of Arabia of Lean!
Pingopalla 4 months ago
I can't compare to Karajan, as i don't have his Bruckner 6th. Celibidache is here actually faster than Klemperer (EMI) but somewhat slower than Skrowaczewksi (Arte Nova), the two commercial recordings I have in iTunes.
I've also got a truly amazing live recording of this symphony (Nowak, not Haas) with Bernstein and the NYPO. Lenny didn't conduct Bruckner much, recording only the 9th commercially, and always claimed Karajan's performances couldn't be bettered.
thadmcarthur 10 months ago
You might consider when you are spouting who's on first that Mahler was a STUDENT of Bruckner and a great admirer of his works. We all learn from each other . Some more than others. LIsten to the adagio here and thing of Mahler's 5th Symphony adagio. Mahler was not a plagerist he was the student who equaled his teacher . Both are profound but they are diferent in their outooks.
Trumpetguy49 11 months ago
Mahler was a plagiarist! Bruckner, though a sycophant of Wagner, was an original.
301250 1 year ago
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tubamarc8891 1 year ago
This is far and away my favorite Bruckner symphony. It has both great tunes and contrasts in light and dark. Mahler undoubtedly learned much from this work.
Mahlerialiszt 1 year ago
@Mahlerialiszt : MAHLER IS MAHLER - BRUCKNER IS BRUCKNER!!! WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO JUDGE WHAT WAS IN WHOSE MIND FIRST??? YOU GOT SOMETHING IN YOUR REPETOIRE THAT WE CAN CRITIQUE!?
SordidGuy 1 year ago
@SordidGuy Bruckner completed the 6th in 1881, 8 years before Mahler completed his first symphony. The timeline simply doesn't support that Mahler would have had any influence on Bruckner. Mahler was known to admire Bruckner, and conducted his symphonies. While nobody with more than rudimentary training would mistake Mahler for Bruckner, there is a discernible influence, especially in the brass writing. Of course, both composers were prfoundly influenced by both Beethoven and Wagner.
Mahlerialiszt 1 year ago
This is one of the very finest performances of any Bruckner symphony. As always, Maestro Celibidache is able to plumb the spiritual depths of Bruckner in a way few conductors ever have, and he elicits consistently beautiful playing from the Munich Philharmonic in this bravura performance. The 6th is an unjustly neglected masterpiece, and I hope this exposure will help it get the recognition it deserves. I urge viewers to play all the way through to the glorious finale. Thanks for the upload.
Galantski 1 year ago
This movement makes me want to put on a helmet, grab a gun, and invade North Korea.
agent885 1 year ago 2
In my opinion, this is Bruckner's most colorful and vibrant symphony. He pulled off a great success with this piece, because he has incorporated his typical use of dark sounding phrases in minor keys, with many chromatic key changes into bright, happy majors. It's a variety you usually don't see in the previous Bruckner symphonies, it seems to me like the earlier ones were extremely dramatic - very happy or very sad sounding, and this one's got the best of both emotions.
techno769 1 year ago
I do wonder why this symphony seems to be so much less popular than many of Bruckner's later symphonies, I think it's an awesome masterpiece!
JimTLonW6 1 year ago 2
the orchestra seems to speak .......
CCESARANO4 1 year ago
@nightosky
so you like almost every single one of Bruckner's beginnings! :P
FliegendeHollaender 1 year ago
I saw this symphony recently conducted by Bloomsted in San Francisco and in this version you can listen every melody, that can be hidden with faster tempis, and more dense playing.
ilbacioditosca 1 year ago
Otto Klemperer and the New Philarmonia
Haronardi 2 years ago
I listened to Bruckners 6th Symphony in Zürich a few weeks ago.. I just loved it!!
ConstantinVohs 2 years ago
Robert Haas edition? Sounds Like.
78timothy 2 years ago
Yes, this part look similar to karajan, in tempo and timbre. But in general Celibidache is Celibidache.
maulee2008 3 years ago 8
@maulee2008 And Karajan is Karajan.
foerster 5 months ago
Well looky there, Wolfgang Gaag of German Brass playing Principal Horn with München. It's great to see him in his other job.
WAKeele 3 years ago
please dont' start with the old competion with Karajan. Apprecitate Celibidache WITHOUT Karajan.
Karajan is greatness.
foerster 3 years ago 2
Very fast for Celi! Interresting...
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VonGneisenau 4 years ago
Very good! Similar to Karajan. But where's the rest?:-(
VonGneisenau 4 years ago
Similar to Karajan???Oh boy, they were complete opponents!
mariusfelix 4 years ago
Have I said they were not? I'm talking about this part, not in general.
VonGneisenau 3 years ago
you are right on what you said. Karajan did not follow Furtwangler school or Wagnerian School of sound. Karajan was slowly deleting that school from German Orchestras, he did more international sound to compete with recordings in US.
ilbacioditosca 1 year ago