If there is already water in your tank, alcohol will dissolve it and as long as it is only a small amount of water in comparison to the volume of alcohol the mixture will still burn.
Why not run a carburetor system with a fuel pump and return line, that constantly agitates the fuel in the tank? Then if you do get any moisture, it will be distributed evenly and burned off in the fuel, and such small amounts shouldn't be an issue.
Just run a water trap filter like those used on diesels. Just means any metal components like your internal fuel pumps in cars do rust because of the water content. Great experiment.
how does ethanol attract water because of the alcohol, and liquor or beer extracts water which gives hang over due to dehydration? Its like opposite...
Ive used e85 in non flexfuel vehicles. Generally first tank is about (65-75%) of mileage of regular(no ethanol)gasoline with a slight drop of power with each progressive tank full mileage gets worse(30-40%) mileage at about that efficiency the vehicle will sometimes barley pull itself. upon refilling tank with reg gas there is a noticeable diff right away and an increase of mileage.
Why does the mileage/power drop?
Ive noticed staying away from Egas mileage will slowly increase with each tank
@sangerrat Actually its not if you have a boat with a fiberglass gas tank the ethanol will eat a hole right through it. Most people end up replacing their fiberglass tanks with aluminum ones. Engines made before 1986 take the biggest hit because the parts get absolutely destroyed by corrosion in a fraction of the time of a engine made after 1986. Once they start eating away at your pistons your looking at a lot money to fix that.
@sangerrat The alcohol also eats away at your fuel lines giving you red crystals that get clogged in your engine. This is not BS, your simply ignorant.
@FateAirsoft You have no clue to what you are talking about.. Lots of boats running ethanol. Do a search>>> sanger rats jet hydro boat E-85 running on CORN
@sangerrat well thats cool that a high performance boat that was probably designed to run on corn runs on corn. That is not a normal outboard or inboard engine either, im talking about NORMAL non racing engines you would put on your boat. You can read it on capmels forum or on boatus(DOT)com/seaworthy/fueltest.asp asshat.
P.S. Just because the boat runs on ethanol doesn't mean its good for it. People smoke cigarettes and there not good for them.
Yep, with some ethanol in the gas you will have a little water in the gas...and it will be pulled right through the fuel system and engine where it will cause absolutely no trouble at all and cool and clean your combustion chambers...unless you hate ethanol for some reason. In that case it will ruin everything.
Hmmmm, interesting. Would a fuel tank tampon work with ethanol(water absorber) We use them in snowmachines to keep water out of the engine when it is cold in Alaska
Thank you for this informative video. Ignore the cretins who just hang around waiting to post negative and non-informative messages. The rest of us appreciate this kind of help.
That's why I posted this video to pull out any opinions from anyone. Silly Rabbit, what was the starting temperature? A question like that seems like I would have used him on point for mine clearence operations......Everyone has a spot in the food chain I guess. Nice question Leon. A waste of space but can ya work on that a bit? We would welcome any real questions if you have any. Thanks for posting. .........Cap'n Crunch
Yamaha and our recommendation is to only put in the fuel that you are going to use for your trip. If you're using the old style fuel (available at most marinas) then you should keep the tank full and use a stabilizer.
I guess the guys that were here from Japan that engineer Yamaha outboards are just as dumb as us. The tech rep that is here every week too I suppose.
Yes the vents are not that big, we were just illustrating a point, and they dont make pickle jars with openings the size of a vent. The same thing happens with your boats fuel system, where do you think the water comes from?
We are located in NE Florida. Humidity was 75 and temp of the fuel was 72. We have done this with the same effect throughout the year.
Fill up at 76 be done with it.
SomecoolName1 1 month ago
So then why do they recommend using Dry-Gas (which is an alcohol additive) in your gas tank to remove water, if it only attracts more water?
logik316 3 months ago
@logik316
If there is already water in your tank, alcohol will dissolve it and as long as it is only a small amount of water in comparison to the volume of alcohol the mixture will still burn.
GammaRadiation1 2 months ago
CAN I USE E85 ON MY CAR 1.8 TOYOTA
crazzzzy420 4 months ago
Why not run a carburetor system with a fuel pump and return line, that constantly agitates the fuel in the tank? Then if you do get any moisture, it will be distributed evenly and burned off in the fuel, and such small amounts shouldn't be an issue.
stopglobalswarming 5 months ago
JP, that doesn't look like an Ounce......But I get the experiment.
I can't afford to keep 150 gallons in my tank, so that's good news.
I haul people not 150 gallons of fuel around.
BLM26CC 7 months ago
Idiotic.
franktauk4u 10 months ago
or you can just skip being cheap and use 91 nonoxy
johnathonmelby 11 months ago
Just run a water trap filter like those used on diesels. Just means any metal components like your internal fuel pumps in cars do rust because of the water content. Great experiment.
nathanmarkbooth 1 year ago
is ethanol basically gas? where can i buy ethanol/?
9DragonMaster 1 year ago
@9DragonMaster um lol if gas does not say noneoxygenated it all has ethenol
johnathonmelby 11 months ago
@9DragonMaster ethanol is alcohol, most fuel has 10% ethanol.
ML424wr 8 months ago
how does ethanol attract water because of the alcohol, and liquor or beer extracts water which gives hang over due to dehydration? Its like opposite...
wingking077 1 year ago
And a little water in your engine wouldn't cause any trouble. The germans even used a 50/50 methanol/water injection system in their fighter planes.
blork5 1 year ago
Just buy a ethanol fuel designated fuel filter. Problem solved
blork5 1 year ago
Ive used e85 in non flexfuel vehicles. Generally first tank is about (65-75%) of mileage of regular(no ethanol)gasoline with a slight drop of power with each progressive tank full mileage gets worse(30-40%) mileage at about that efficiency the vehicle will sometimes barley pull itself. upon refilling tank with reg gas there is a noticeable diff right away and an increase of mileage.
Why does the mileage/power drop?
Ive noticed staying away from Egas mileage will slowly increase with each tank
robvlob 1 year ago
This is BS
sangerrat 1 year ago
@sangerrat Actually its not if you have a boat with a fiberglass gas tank the ethanol will eat a hole right through it. Most people end up replacing their fiberglass tanks with aluminum ones. Engines made before 1986 take the biggest hit because the parts get absolutely destroyed by corrosion in a fraction of the time of a engine made after 1986. Once they start eating away at your pistons your looking at a lot money to fix that.
FateAirsoft 1 year ago
@sangerrat The alcohol also eats away at your fuel lines giving you red crystals that get clogged in your engine. This is not BS, your simply ignorant.
FateAirsoft 1 year ago
@FateAirsoft You have no clue to what you are talking about.. Lots of boats running ethanol. Do a search>>> sanger rats jet hydro boat E-85 running on CORN
sangerrat 1 year ago
@sangerrat well thats cool that a high performance boat that was probably designed to run on corn runs on corn. That is not a normal outboard or inboard engine either, im talking about NORMAL non racing engines you would put on your boat. You can read it on capmels forum or on boatus(DOT)com/seaworthy/fueltest.asp asshat.
P.S. Just because the boat runs on ethanol doesn't mean its good for it. People smoke cigarettes and there not good for them.
Yeah that's what I thought dumbass.
FateAirsoft 1 year ago
Yep, with some ethanol in the gas you will have a little water in the gas...and it will be pulled right through the fuel system and engine where it will cause absolutely no trouble at all and cool and clean your combustion chambers...unless you hate ethanol for some reason. In that case it will ruin everything.
rallingsaabs 2 years ago 2
it is simple don't let air get in the tank. it will work in jet skies, I have a 2007 vx cruser and i use ethanol all the time.
switchgrassfuel 2 years ago
Hmmmm, interesting. Would a fuel tank tampon work with ethanol(water absorber) We use them in snowmachines to keep water out of the engine when it is cold in Alaska
mosesofak 2 years ago
I hate ethanol. This shit is supposed to be better ?? What a joke.
papabugs71 2 years ago
except you can make it easily at home tard go make gasoline oh wait you cant its non renewable
jsmithmilitary 2 years ago
Im guessing you have a ethanol plant in your backyard & you're currently in production, right?
Right.
papabugs71 2 years ago
is that sarcasim or what i dont make it but its extremely easy i study chemistry its a part of it i could tell you exactly how its done
jsmithmilitary 2 years ago
Thank you for this informative video. Ignore the cretins who just hang around waiting to post negative and non-informative messages. The rest of us appreciate this kind of help.
Deacon21blues 2 years ago
That's why I posted this video to pull out any opinions from anyone. Silly Rabbit, what was the starting temperature? A question like that seems like I would have used him on point for mine clearence operations......Everyone has a spot in the food chain I guess. Nice question Leon. A waste of space but can ya work on that a bit? We would welcome any real questions if you have any. Thanks for posting. .........Cap'n Crunch
fishpile 2 years ago
I'm curious as to why someone would pick this apart as we're only trying to warn people about how bad ethanol fuel is for boats (among other things).
We've seen alot of issues with ethanol over the past 2 years. If you dont choose to learn from this video then I'm sorry.
Oh and he's not a science teacher, he's one of the best outboard mechanics in the country :P
ISLEOFPALMSMARINE 2 years ago
Yamaha and our recommendation is to only put in the fuel that you are going to use for your trip. If you're using the old style fuel (available at most marinas) then you should keep the tank full and use a stabilizer.
I guess the guys that were here from Japan that engineer Yamaha outboards are just as dumb as us. The tech rep that is here every week too I suppose.
ISLEOFPALMSMARINE 2 years ago
Yes the vents are not that big, we were just illustrating a point, and they dont make pickle jars with openings the size of a vent. The same thing happens with your boats fuel system, where do you think the water comes from?
We are located in NE Florida. Humidity was 75 and temp of the fuel was 72. We have done this with the same effect throughout the year.
ISLEOFPALMSMARINE 2 years ago
We now have vents the size of the open jar?
Where is this guy at and what was relative humidity? What was starting temperature of fuel?
Keeping the tank full would cut this effect down since there would be less air in contact with the fuel.
Glad this guy aint me science teacher.
leonphelps123 2 years ago
WOW! Nice job!
Starbritecorp 2 years ago 2