it was an airbus design flaw. and it was a lesson learned! if not for the pilot and the children who have crashed the plane and the death of other passengers onboard, this problem may not have been corrected. so modifications to improve the plane's safety feature was enforced. no wonder the pilot and the children were declared as heroes and buried in the heroes' grave.
I let my six year-old drive the car when I want to take a nap. Why not let a teen fly a 75 million dollar jet? I wonder if chernobyl was operating under the guidance of kindergarteners.
I have noticed in a number of accidents, that the flight crews didn't know or appreciate how their flight systems were connected. In this case, as far as the pilot was concerned, everything was under control, except for something that he didn't know about and, since he didn't know, it is entirely possible that the same crisis could have occurred at another time. This is not to say that letting his kid sit in the seat was smart.
@4k8t I agree. Letting the kid sit in the pilot's seat was stupid, but the crew seemed VERY cinfused about what was happeing. Major confusion is really the only plausible explanation I give for them just sitting there and staring at the controls for what seems like at least a minute or two without taking the kid out right away as soon as they were alerted to something funky happening. Unless that's just re-inactment taking liberties, they did seem to be taking a very long time to react
@MadameChristie The problem for the crew was that they were trying to understand what was happening (situational awareness) which was where they were confused. Whatever it was should not have been happening. They took no positive action to take control immediately because they assumed the auto-pilot was fully in control. They were wrong and only when the crisis hit did they realize that they were wrong and then took action.
The captain should have kicked the kid out of the seat the moment the plane continues to turn -- at least -- since he should not have let the kid sit on the seat in the first place.
that pilot was not a hero. he set in motion the problems that happened on that plane. NEVER should a child be allowed to sit in any seat of the cockpit while the plane is in there air, much less be touching ANY controls.
lots of excuses made in this episode, I don't care how auto pilot operates, a trained flight crew should be aware of and in control of an airplane at all times.
D'aw, this is one of the things you wish had worked out alright in the end. Reminds me of the case where a flight controller let his two little kids give the takeoff orders to planes. It probably shouldn't have happened, but nothing bad happened and the pilots liked it (I thought it was cute too :3.) I realize flying a plane is different than telling one where to go, but still.
@967princeboy Game Boy and every other portable system by Nintendo wipes the floor with the PSP game play experience-wise. Well, maybe not the Virtual Boy but still...
What a stupid, stupid pilot what in the world was he thinking? Now 75 people are dead and all because a stupid pilot let his kids sit in the pilots seat and touch the controls. If he wanted the kids experiance to seating in the pilots seat then at least do it when the plane is on the ground and not moving.
@SolarisDeLuna The direct cause of the plane actually crashing was the stall caused by the first officer pulling up too much. If the first officer didn't stall the plane after the initial dive, it wouldn't crash.
I have no idea why the hell those two pilots were buried like a heroes next to those who died while saving the 4th reactor of Chernobyl NPP. I just can't understand this. Despite all the shit about how good those pilots were, they made a mistake and they are responsible for death of many people. Nobody survived in this terrible crash and those two idiots were buried like a heroes? Why are they heroes? Why?
Yes its clear that the captain should not have let his kid in his cockpit. But there is more than just one reason for this plain crashing. The autopilot had disconnected without anyone knowing, as there was no warning alarm! Also the pilots had not being made aware of how to get it back into the autopilot.
Had any of that being trained to them, or there had have been an alarm, they wouldn't have crashed!
I think this accident was caused due to insufficient training of the pilots. They could have saved the plane just by telling the kid to keep his hands off the yoke as the investigators did on the simulator. In the episode "Ripped From The Cockpit ", the co-pilot managed to land the plane safely despite the depressurisation and had he crushed the plane, we couldn't blame the captain for " not putting his shoulder straps on and leaving the F/O alone" iso the faulty maintenance of the windscreen.
Autopilots shouldn't be designed in a way allowing themselves to be disengaged unless they are intentionally comanded to. We know that pilots don't sit at their seats all the time; they have a rest, go to the cabin to check something and of course they also go to the WC. There could be a failure in the autopilot or in the yoke causing the autopilot to disengage itself without having to turn it for 30 seconds or something. In that case we should blame the pilot for peeing??
I don't really understand, there's said that the women who's talking is the pilot's wife. Is she really? Of is she an acress, because they told there weren't any survivers. Or wasn't she in the plane when is crashed?
@Kelebektepkisi The disconnection of autopilot with a certain amount of yoke/stick force is a safety feature designed for immediate evasve maneouvres, when even taking a second to flick the switch could be the difference between life and death.
@turricaned yeah but it takes 30 seconds for the AP to disengage by doing that, so it would be quicker to switch it off manually, just pointing out that your logic is wrong.
@ryan1111111555555555 Not wrong, but perhaps I should have been clearer. The safety feature I'm talking about is an old one, and goes back to the '60s. The Airbus A300 system is a little more modern and advanced. Enough force will result in immediate disconnection, but a more gentle force over time (as in this case) simply assumes that the AP (or in this case CWS) switch has been forgotten and automatically changes mode.
@turricaned ahh right, personally I think thats too confusing, it should be either off or on regardless of force and movement, i mean the thing lights up to tell you that its on, if you miss it then you're in the wrong profession in my opinion.
@ryan1111111555555555 It's not confusing if you've been properly trained in it's operation, which it would appear some of these pilots weren't. Control Wheel Steering, or CWS (the mode Eldar unwittingly engaged) is a fairly standard autopilot function installed on Douglas, Lockheed and Boeing airliners, as well as the early Airbus.
The only time auto pilots make an audible warning is when you disengage it completely. That had to been part of their training. You can always remove heading hold or altitude hold or not engage the auto throttle arm for speed. Bad training. Why didn't one of the pilots immediatly attempt to see if they could correct the turn with the yoke? And commercial flights like this, isn't a time to sit your kid in the cockpit. You can do that on a private flight.
He didn't know he was even letting the kid fly the plane. He thought he was just letting them sit in the big chair. Since he thought you had to deliberately disengage the autopilot, his perception was that the kid had no more control of a plane than a child would have control of a car if you put a toy steering wheel on his carseat.
I guess in Russia, plane flies you. Being insensitive aside, letting your kid sit on the pilot's post was irresponsible. Even if they got out of it alive, the pilot's life would be a living hell for sure
@dgenx210: Yeah, I mean, that's the only "silver lining" (if you could call it that) to the pilots dying-- it's not like if they had lived, they would've *wanted* to. Can you imagine the level of humiliation, shame, hatred, and public ruin they would've faced? It's not like they could've "lied" about what happened, either, because an investigation would've turned up the truth, anyway. Like you said, it would've been a living hell.
I don't get why the pilots would pull the plane back so far. Even I know that the plane will stall. They should have dive the nose of the plane to gain speed then gentally pull back.
@GameMaster2565: What I'm confused about is why the pilot's gut instincts didn't kick in and make him just ask the kid to get out of the seat and let him take over, as SOON as everyone noticed that something was weird. Did he really just stand there looking over his kid's shoulder looking at the controls or was that just for dramatic effect for the episode? It just doesn't seem possible.
@ts1depot I think when the the pilots noticed something was going wrong, it was already too late. the plane was rolling much which makes it very difficult to move around due to G affects.
When people see a plane close-up they are instantly fascinated by what they see so they want to experience it again. This was a chance for the pilot to make his son love planes but unfortunately it turned out wrong but because of this, this may have saved more lives than lost because without this crash no one might have known about the problem and could have still made its way to the most latest planes-AIRBUS A380!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those kids dont have any experience what soever in this aircraft, and then when the boy got in and turned, the autopilot came back on with the yoke facing left. so that will have been why.
A 15 year old boy has killed over 75 people.
The pilots are dickheads letting them even go in the cockpit.
seriously? this pilot and its crew need to be fired no one NO SANE PILOT OR CREW should allow a kid A KID fly a plane what next we are going to let kids be surgeons as well?
I'm certain the pilot didn't let the kid control the aircraft. He meant to let the kid sit in the seat and let him see around the jet. How was he supposed to think that the AP would switch off like that?
Did we watch the same show? The pilot DID NOT let he's children fly the plane. He had the autopilot on and didn't know it would turn off that easily. It was a flaw in the plane, not in any person.
i always thought that the A310 was an old not very automated aircraft, which is why they replaced them with the A330 (which may i add were manufactured during Aeroflot's introduction of the A310
On its face it seems completely crazy that the autopilot could partially disengage without the pilots' knowledge. This has the mark of a big FAIL by Airbus.
The fact that the pilots weren't trained "enough and/or fully" for type of aircraft is very dumb of the airline company. Also pilots' being so reckless during the flight is unacceptible. But their biggest mistake was to fully trust the autopilot. "autoPILOT" makes some pilots think that when they engage it the aircraft doesn't need real pilots anymore. They need to remove the word "pilot" from it. It can be smtg simple as "flight computer" etc. So pilots can realize better it is just a computer.
@sebnemnisanci i agree with you and autopilot or "flight computer" should be used only when the real pilot can't drive let's say because he needs to go to the bathroom
@xXhellassasinXx Actually that wasn't what I mean. I have "a little" knowledge about aviation (by playing flight simulator X lol) and I think it would be very difficult for pilots to fly the big passenger jets manually for the whole flight. It is not that easy to keep the altitude and speed static all the time those jets are not cessna skyhawks.
@xXhellassasinXx Autopilot provides a smooth comfortable flight. What I wanted to say is that the pilots should never stop monitoring flight instruments and get disoriented just because the autopilot is engaged cuz autopilot is a computer not a real pilot it can fail anytime just like our pc's, laptops that we use at home.
None of you guyz are going to believe it but i have taken control of an aircraft, and it was this year 2011, I couldnt believe they let me but they did :) and it was fun, but only in Poland huh! and only polish pilots :) it was an A320
@UfixXx it wasn't a polish company, well im not going to go and spill the company dont really want to put the pilots career in jeperdy because hey they dident have to let me in, in the first place. how about we leave it at that.
I hope the Captain has been rotting in hell. What a total disregard for human life! Sure he did not mean for the accident to happen. But intelligent people should not fully trust a machine, no matter how advancedly built it is.
@yinstube i know exactly what u mean i mean seriously how long must people die? its not just planes even take the andera doria for example it as a luxury passenger liner and the crew put to much faith on a single piece of technology.... the radar the first of its kind on a ship at the time next thing u know BAM they collide with another ship it sinks people die and yet we never learn a lesson -_-
Imagine, 50 years ago, a company is in the process of aquiring a new kind of airplane. The process would take months, people would talk about it because this don't happens every year in the company. Some kind of manual would be translated and printed and distributed. Today, you hear about a new thing and the next day you will be using it. If you can make mistakes, it's all right. Too much changes, let's slow down! The world won't stol.
@rodriguezagnes Watch the programme properly. As far as he was concerned, he wasn't. The autopilot was supposed to remain in control while his children were allowed to believe they were "flying the plane". His mistake was to not warn his son to handle the control column lightly and not to push it. But even then he did not know that that would partially disconnect the autopilot because no-one told him that could happen.
@turricaned nonetheless, all those passengers loss their lives because the pilot kid was playing with the control. Like the lady said @46:39, "children should not be allowed in the cockpit" #deadlylessonlearned
@rodriguezagnes I'm not arguing with you - it shouldn't have happened that way. But it's important to remember that this incident also highlighted a problem with training on the A310. It wasn't generally known that turning the control column for 30 seconds would disengage the ailerons from the autopilot, nor was it known that there would be no warning that it had partially disconnected. Had the father known that, he probably would never have allowed the children to sit in his seat.
@turricaned I agreed that it was the problem with the transfer of knowledge when the pilot was trained he was never told about this important feature. But if the kid wasn't at the pilot seat and fight with the autopilot with the steering in the beginning, it still wouldn't disengage the autopilot. In other words, it was still the kid who had caused the crashed.
@luckybozo1 I remember a time when children were allowed to visit the flight deck on holiday flights - it instilled a fascination with aviation and gave them an unforgettable experience. Alas in this hyper-secure post 9/11 environment it has become impractical, but I still think it's a shame this has been lost. Admittedly allowing children into the cockpit and letting them sit in the pilot's seat are very different things, but I still maintain the training issue was the key factor.
@turricaned Agreed, training issue was the main problem because the pilots would have known and recovered the plane in time. Of course I am not blaming the kid because he didn't know...but the fact that he was there changed the event which resulting in lost of lives. Would the pilot purposely push the steering against the intended direction out of curiosity? Most likely not! Unfortunately it was due to this event that the fault was found in the autopilot!
@rodriguezagnes he wanted the kid to have fun, and he was pretty certain that nothing would happen. he overestimated the plane's computer intellegence.
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ny1fanta 7 hours ago
This is why I don't get on planes.
YouMadBroHuh 1 week ago
god love his wife
eega100 1 week ago
Hes got bees in his brain!a kid cant fly a plane! what type of eejit is he!
firestarloverwarrior 1 week ago
7:40 "They were so well traviled "killing 75 people is a succsess of "well traviled"?
RANDOMNESS873 1 week ago
.... im a kid and i understand now.... :(
RANDOMNESS873 1 week ago
it was an airbus design flaw. and it was a lesson learned! if not for the pilot and the children who have crashed the plane and the death of other passengers onboard, this problem may not have been corrected. so modifications to improve the plane's safety feature was enforced. no wonder the pilot and the children were declared as heroes and buried in the heroes' grave.
TheMaharlika1016 1 week ago
Worst airline pilot in all of history.
gerrylazlo 2 weeks ago
this kind of thing can only happen in russia
rudy032190 3 weeks ago
thhe captain let the kid fly the plane idiot
nfsc7656 3 weeks ago
the kid was having fun in the cockpit
nfsc7656 3 weeks ago
@nfsc7656 *insert that's what she said joke here*
RANDOMNESS873 1 week ago
look likes a roller coaster in the air funny
nfsc7656 3 weeks ago
This is what a Flight Simulator is for, to let kids have fun in the cockpit without jeopardizing the lives of passengers!
Also to blame is the passenger sitting next to the kids who brought them to the cockpit in the first place
victoriaindigo 1 month ago
@victoriaindigo
Thought it was the pilots kid?
beautyquenn101 1 week ago
@beautyquenn101 Yes, but I was referring to the man at 9:37 who got the idea to bring the kids to the cockpit
victoriaindigo 1 week ago
first...... why the hell did the arc appeared......
second ... why in the hell did the BANK ANGLE ALARM DID'NT SOUND.......
MegaMohiuddin 1 month ago
This is RETARDED - you have people on board and you don't let your teenager take control. Idiot pilot.
lexlaw007 1 month ago
he is so stupid to let his son to fly the plane
xxx789ist 1 month ago
Unbelievable stupidity.
MrRazorblade999 1 month ago
I let my six year-old drive the car when I want to take a nap. Why not let a teen fly a 75 million dollar jet? I wonder if chernobyl was operating under the guidance of kindergarteners.
speedfast01 1 month ago 3
@speedfast01 good one
hansrx7 1 month ago
russian idiots. they let a tryhard kid touch the controls in the air not even considering what will happen to the plane
MrNowwhatido 1 month ago
stupid Russians!!
MrBobbi1980 1 month ago
A heroes grave? what for exactly...
ryan1111111555555555 1 month ago
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ryan1111111555555555 1 month ago
I have noticed in a number of accidents, that the flight crews didn't know or appreciate how their flight systems were connected. In this case, as far as the pilot was concerned, everything was under control, except for something that he didn't know about and, since he didn't know, it is entirely possible that the same crisis could have occurred at another time. This is not to say that letting his kid sit in the seat was smart.
4k8t 1 month ago
@4k8t I agree. Letting the kid sit in the pilot's seat was stupid, but the crew seemed VERY cinfused about what was happeing. Major confusion is really the only plausible explanation I give for them just sitting there and staring at the controls for what seems like at least a minute or two without taking the kid out right away as soon as they were alerted to something funky happening. Unless that's just re-inactment taking liberties, they did seem to be taking a very long time to react
MadameChristie 3 weeks ago 2
@MadameChristie The problem for the crew was that they were trying to understand what was happening (situational awareness) which was where they were confused. Whatever it was should not have been happening. They took no positive action to take control immediately because they assumed the auto-pilot was fully in control. They were wrong and only when the crisis hit did they realize that they were wrong and then took action.
4k8t 3 weeks ago
This was pretty scary
GROMSF 1 month ago
i value my life...i would never fly with a russian pilot, or a russian plane!
yankee22167 2 months ago
shit happends !
guitarmafia20 2 months ago
if I was the kid, I'll fly that plane coz I am 13
KautsarRz 2 months ago
fucking fag kid
metalskateboarder965 2 months ago
The captain should have kicked the kid out of the seat the moment the plane continues to turn -- at least -- since he should not have let the kid sit on the seat in the first place.
aidanbard 2 months ago
that pilot was not a hero. he set in motion the problems that happened on that plane. NEVER should a child be allowed to sit in any seat of the cockpit while the plane is in there air, much less be touching ANY controls.
xhidingbhindmysmilex 2 months ago
stupid, just plain stupid!!
rcp728 3 months ago
i dont wana put 2 much blame on da pilots. but it is crazy 2 put ur kid on da seat while inflight........
mejus16 3 months ago
dont put ur plane qhere ur brainhasnt been 10 min ago ergo no brains in cockpit, just dicks. maybe we should call it a dickpit
benotto0236 3 months ago
FLY
THE
PLANE!!!!
SSedmak 3 months ago
lots of excuses made in this episode, I don't care how auto pilot operates, a trained flight crew should be aware of and in control of an airplane at all times.
monkeyboy85 3 months ago 20
freak accident,, a lot of things contributed to the crash,,,
imonmeown 3 months ago
mistakes are learnt and corrected, just be thankful we're in 2011
godwarmw2 3 months ago
By allowing his children access to the controls of the plane, the captain was 100% culpable. Such an avoidable tragedy. I would NEVER fly Aeroflop!
cheyelleomar 3 months ago
SOLARIS DONT BE STUPID,,,,DONT BLAME THE KID YOU STUPID M FUCKER DUMB ASS,,
DONNJUANTENORIO 3 months ago
Fucking fuck really? Dumbass piliots
MrGeneralKenobi 3 months ago
Why am I watching this before flying...?
WOLFIEweasel 3 months ago
If he used Microsoft Flight Simulator, I'm sure the plane wouldn't even turn in the first place.
MyVideoHubOnDell 4 months ago
Friends don't let friends fly airbus
SkiBigWhite 4 months ago
@SkiBigWhite what has this got to do with airbus? This accident was caused by pilot error nothing to do with airbus you fucking cunt
metalskateboarder965 2 months ago
Only in Russia.
Xterminator390 4 months ago
D'aw, this is one of the things you wish had worked out alright in the end. Reminds me of the case where a flight controller let his two little kids give the takeoff orders to planes. It probably shouldn't have happened, but nothing bad happened and the pilots liked it (I thought it was cute too :3.) I realize flying a plane is different than telling one where to go, but still.
hamstergirl591 4 months ago
maybe if there's a PSP at that time the boy will not go to the cockpit...
967princeboy 4 months ago
@967princeboy Game Boy and every other portable system by Nintendo wipes the floor with the PSP game play experience-wise. Well, maybe not the Virtual Boy but still...
MLennholm 1 month ago
Nice accent!
strocman 4 months ago
Freaky.
strocman 4 months ago
What a stupid, stupid pilot what in the world was he thinking? Now 75 people are dead and all because a stupid pilot let his kids sit in the pilots seat and touch the controls. If he wanted the kids experiance to seating in the pilots seat then at least do it when the plane is on the ground and not moving.
SolarisDeLuna 4 months ago 51
@SolarisDeLuna The direct cause of the plane actually crashing was the stall caused by the first officer pulling up too much. If the first officer didn't stall the plane after the initial dive, it wouldn't crash.
MyVideoHubOnDell 4 months ago 2
@SolarisDeLuna They are'nt stuðid they are stupider than the stupid it self ;)
AirAtlantaAndFsx357 3 months ago
@SolarisDeLuna
*25 minutes later of play time* Ooh the plane suddenly goes at speed of 25 and raising :D
DarkBabyIon 2 months ago
Just one of the 127 crashes Aeroflot have had.
hofsteveO 4 months ago
This was the most irresponsible and stupidest accident ever... what the hell was that pilot thinking?!?!?!
YamiNoPri 5 months ago
they would have survived if the co pilot had stopped pulling up once it levelled off, then it wouldn't have stalled
greendayforever2k9 5 months ago
boeing>airbus
tippman2k01 5 months ago
Airbus should have hired that boy to test its plane safety :P
kishanmv 5 months ago
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alruin4531 5 months ago
pause at 14:46 and see what is wrong in this picture of an ADI
alruin4531 5 months ago
I have no idea why the hell those two pilots were buried like a heroes next to those who died while saving the 4th reactor of Chernobyl NPP. I just can't understand this. Despite all the shit about how good those pilots were, they made a mistake and they are responsible for death of many people. Nobody survived in this terrible crash and those two idiots were buried like a heroes? Why are they heroes? Why?
Daemon1512 5 months ago 3
@Daemon1512 I saw this video a long time ago.... Does it say they were buried there? Even Yaroslav Kudrinsky the man who let the boy fly?
Orangebike666 5 months ago
@Orangebike666 Yep.
Daemon1512 5 months ago
Yes its clear that the captain should not have let his kid in his cockpit. But there is more than just one reason for this plain crashing. The autopilot had disconnected without anyone knowing, as there was no warning alarm! Also the pilots had not being made aware of how to get it back into the autopilot.
Had any of that being trained to them, or there had have been an alarm, they wouldn't have crashed!
coventrydavid 5 months ago
I had to comment on this so u take ur kid off his x box & say I know why dont u have a go on this lol what a div
iskuly 5 months ago
I think this accident was caused due to insufficient training of the pilots. They could have saved the plane just by telling the kid to keep his hands off the yoke as the investigators did on the simulator. In the episode "Ripped From The Cockpit ", the co-pilot managed to land the plane safely despite the depressurisation and had he crushed the plane, we couldn't blame the captain for " not putting his shoulder straps on and leaving the F/O alone" iso the faulty maintenance of the windscreen.
Kelebektepkisi 5 months ago
Autopilots shouldn't be designed in a way allowing themselves to be disengaged unless they are intentionally comanded to. We know that pilots don't sit at their seats all the time; they have a rest, go to the cabin to check something and of course they also go to the WC. There could be a failure in the autopilot or in the yoke causing the autopilot to disengage itself without having to turn it for 30 seconds or something. In that case we should blame the pilot for peeing??
Kelebektepkisi 5 months ago
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What a bizarre story. Misjudgment, a truly stupid kid, bad autopilot design, and pilot error come together to bring a plane down.
Seriously though, don't bring your kids into the cockpit.
ExleySC 5 months ago
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ExleySC 5 months ago
I don't really understand, there's said that the women who's talking is the pilot's wife. Is she really? Of is she an acress, because they told there weren't any survivers. Or wasn't she in the plane when is crashed?
missessXXX 5 months ago
@missessXXX No, she wasn't - poor woman.
@Kelebektepkisi The disconnection of autopilot with a certain amount of yoke/stick force is a safety feature designed for immediate evasve maneouvres, when even taking a second to flick the switch could be the difference between life and death.
turricaned 4 months ago
@turricaned yeah but it takes 30 seconds for the AP to disengage by doing that, so it would be quicker to switch it off manually, just pointing out that your logic is wrong.
ryan1111111555555555 1 month ago
@ryan1111111555555555 Not wrong, but perhaps I should have been clearer. The safety feature I'm talking about is an old one, and goes back to the '60s. The Airbus A300 system is a little more modern and advanced. Enough force will result in immediate disconnection, but a more gentle force over time (as in this case) simply assumes that the AP (or in this case CWS) switch has been forgotten and automatically changes mode.
turricaned 1 month ago
@turricaned ahh right, personally I think thats too confusing, it should be either off or on regardless of force and movement, i mean the thing lights up to tell you that its on, if you miss it then you're in the wrong profession in my opinion.
ryan1111111555555555 1 month ago
@ryan1111111555555555 It's not confusing if you've been properly trained in it's operation, which it would appear some of these pilots weren't. Control Wheel Steering, or CWS (the mode Eldar unwittingly engaged) is a fairly standard autopilot function installed on Douglas, Lockheed and Boeing airliners, as well as the early Airbus.
turricaned 1 month ago
@missessXXX She wasn't in the plane. Just the husband and kids.
SolarisDeLuna 4 months ago
Nice one captain, putting the lives of your passengers and children in danger.
LyricalXilence 5 months ago
The only time auto pilots make an audible warning is when you disengage it completely. That had to been part of their training. You can always remove heading hold or altitude hold or not engage the auto throttle arm for speed. Bad training. Why didn't one of the pilots immediatly attempt to see if they could correct the turn with the yoke? And commercial flights like this, isn't a time to sit your kid in the cockpit. You can do that on a private flight.
jmitterii2 6 months ago
He didn't know he was even letting the kid fly the plane. He thought he was just letting them sit in the big chair. Since he thought you had to deliberately disengage the autopilot, his perception was that the kid had no more control of a plane than a child would have control of a car if you put a toy steering wheel on his carseat.
ubermom 6 months ago
I guess in Russia, plane flies you. Being insensitive aside, letting your kid sit on the pilot's post was irresponsible. Even if they got out of it alive, the pilot's life would be a living hell for sure
dgenx210 6 months ago
@dgenx210: Yeah, I mean, that's the only "silver lining" (if you could call it that) to the pilots dying-- it's not like if they had lived, they would've *wanted* to. Can you imagine the level of humiliation, shame, hatred, and public ruin they would've faced? It's not like they could've "lied" about what happened, either, because an investigation would've turned up the truth, anyway. Like you said, it would've been a living hell.
ts1depot 6 months ago
i feel unfair for the other passenger.
2osiris1503 6 months ago
These shows are sad but so fascinating !! :(
ItsMrSeb 6 months ago 23
Wasn't this the story line of a Michael Crighton book called "Airframe"?
MrREH1962 6 months ago
Buried in the hero's cemetery next to the firefighters who died in the Chernobyl nuclear plant disaster!
They should have buried them in the idiot's grave.
schizophrantic 6 months ago
Russians always end up screwing themselves.
aatuif 6 months ago
@aatuif This time they screwed chinese mostly
AnaisAmaru 6 months ago
this kid should go too hell
yacob4596 6 months ago
I don't get why the pilots would pull the plane back so far. Even I know that the plane will stall. They should have dive the nose of the plane to gain speed then gentally pull back.
GameMaster2565 6 months ago
@GameMaster2565: What I'm confused about is why the pilot's gut instincts didn't kick in and make him just ask the kid to get out of the seat and let him take over, as SOON as everyone noticed that something was weird. Did he really just stand there looking over his kid's shoulder looking at the controls or was that just for dramatic effect for the episode? It just doesn't seem possible.
ts1depot 6 months ago
@ts1depot I think when the the pilots noticed something was going wrong, it was already too late. the plane was rolling much which makes it very difficult to move around due to G affects.
GameMaster2565 6 months ago
When people see a plane close-up they are instantly fascinated by what they see so they want to experience it again. This was a chance for the pilot to make his son love planes but unfortunately it turned out wrong but because of this, this may have saved more lives than lost because without this crash no one might have known about the problem and could have still made its way to the most latest planes-AIRBUS A380!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JohnTheUTuber 6 months ago
Shouldn't this aircraft have a joystick?
RossWZA 6 months ago
@RossWZA Oh yeah cause its an airbus
But I dunno :-D
JohnTheUTuber 6 months ago
Erm get out of the the seat now!!!!!!!!!!
chocolatebicycle 6 months ago
Those kids dont have any experience what soever in this aircraft, and then when the boy got in and turned, the autopilot came back on with the yoke facing left. so that will have been why.
A 15 year old boy has killed over 75 people.
The pilots are dickheads letting them even go in the cockpit.
harrygoozee 6 months ago
well the pilot did try his very best but to no avail
Mrmughal4ever 6 months ago
It wasnt the kid's fault cause the auto pilot should have alerted the pilots if a function is being turned off so I think its the auto pilot's fault
JohnTheUTuber 6 months ago 4
@JohnTheUTuber The kid should not have been in pilot seat let alone touch the controls
sweetheart2109 5 months ago
@Hoemsbu: it switches off if you move the yoke! The pilot shouldve known his aircraft!
IBegToDiffer622 6 months ago
thats why you can start a job with 18 years -_-
88matheos1 6 months ago
Bastards, you want to please your children, playing with peoples life! fools.
sharpo30 6 months ago 2
Ahhh!! they're forgetting the first rule of aviation,
aviate, navigate, comunicate
when the plane started banking they should have done something insted of just looking at the controls
Triny123abc 6 months ago
Aeroflot was crash in forest
TheDqwt 6 months ago
Meanwhile in russia.
NowshZ 6 months ago
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GoPensGo377 6 months ago
stupid auto pilot lol
but pilot i wont even let my son do that if i as driving
UnOBizzYDoNKadaR 6 months ago
Because of air crash investigation i could have saved the flight, although im just 21. :P
NaruMikoo 6 months ago 2
my dad owns a bentley and he doesnt let me drive it..this homo lets his son fly a plane woow -.-..
Rip all
KrazyKill666 7 months ago
@KrazyKill666 Are you kidding? I would jump at the chance to fly a passenger jet as well.
shnunk1 6 months ago
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exzau 7 months ago
@jackthayer
Dylanforlife 7 months ago
If at that time there was a PC FlightSim, maybe the boy might have save the flight or even prevent it from happening :|
dedeyun 7 months ago 28
@dedeyun they actually did. flight simulator was invented at that time
MrPranoy 6 months ago
@dedeyun do not joke about this. all the people on board died. RIP All The People on Flight 593
cookiedude426 3 months ago
@cookiedude426 I was never joking about it. Perhaps you never believed in Flight Simulator Realism?
dedeyun 3 months ago
also time and time again i see and must say this....... NEVER PUT TO MUCH FAITH IN TECHNOLOGY
jackthayer 7 months ago
@jackthayer, true that.
John94098 6 months ago
seriously? this pilot and its crew need to be fired no one NO SANE PILOT OR CREW should allow a kid A KID fly a plane what next we are going to let kids be surgeons as well?
jackthayer 7 months ago
I love how the kid is the first to notice a problem haha :') His dad is too busy fussing his sister
BlondeCurlsBlueEyes 7 months ago 2
I'm certain the pilot didn't let the kid control the aircraft. He meant to let the kid sit in the seat and let him see around the jet. How was he supposed to think that the AP would switch off like that?
VidAlienX 7 months ago
this pilot was IRRESPONSIBLE! you can´t play with the passengers lives! amazing!
78morgoth 7 months ago 2
Did we watch the same show? The pilot DID NOT let he's children fly the plane. He had the autopilot on and didn't know it would turn off that easily. It was a flaw in the plane, not in any person.
Hoemsbu 7 months ago
@Hoemsbu bullshit u still don't let children behind the wheel of a plane
jackthayer 7 months ago 2
@Hoemsbu It's still irresponsible of the pilot, but the accident DOES come down to the Autopilot.
Upgrader01 7 months ago
This is the best and most hauntingly bizarre, chilling and moving episode in the series! Poor kids... :(
DanielosII 7 months ago
It's not the kid's fault , In Russia , The plane crashes you ! :( RIP
vajiraism 7 months ago
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vajiraism 7 months ago
i always thought that the A310 was an old not very automated aircraft, which is why they replaced them with the A330 (which may i add were manufactured during Aeroflot's introduction of the A310
jfsa380 7 months ago
Who the hell lets their kids play with the controls and drive the plane????????
charlikesfunnystuff 7 months ago
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charlikesfunnystuff 7 months ago
you let kids play with an aircraft? omg.
purefatdude2 7 months ago
On its face it seems completely crazy that the autopilot could partially disengage without the pilots' knowledge. This has the mark of a big FAIL by Airbus.
MaxwellsDemon9 8 months ago
@MaxwellsDemon9 I totally agree. Airbus sucks.
chernwei5784 8 months ago
The fact that the pilots weren't trained "enough and/or fully" for type of aircraft is very dumb of the airline company. Also pilots' being so reckless during the flight is unacceptible. But their biggest mistake was to fully trust the autopilot. "autoPILOT" makes some pilots think that when they engage it the aircraft doesn't need real pilots anymore. They need to remove the word "pilot" from it. It can be smtg simple as "flight computer" etc. So pilots can realize better it is just a computer.
sebnemnisanci 8 months ago
@sebnemnisanci i agree with you and autopilot or "flight computer" should be used only when the real pilot can't drive let's say because he needs to go to the bathroom
xXhellassasinXx 8 months ago
@xXhellassasinXx Actually that wasn't what I mean. I have "a little" knowledge about aviation (by playing flight simulator X lol) and I think it would be very difficult for pilots to fly the big passenger jets manually for the whole flight. It is not that easy to keep the altitude and speed static all the time those jets are not cessna skyhawks.
sebnemnisanci 8 months ago
@xXhellassasinXx Autopilot provides a smooth comfortable flight. What I wanted to say is that the pilots should never stop monitoring flight instruments and get disoriented just because the autopilot is engaged cuz autopilot is a computer not a real pilot it can fail anytime just like our pc's, laptops that we use at home.
sebnemnisanci 8 months ago
None of you guyz are going to believe it but i have taken control of an aircraft, and it was this year 2011, I couldnt believe they let me but they did :) and it was fun, but only in Poland huh! and only polish pilots :) it was an A320
MrStatham77 8 months ago
@MrStatham77 Can you tell me which polish airline got A320 in their fleet? As far as I'm aware LOT is flying on Boeing and Embarer planes.
UfixXx 7 months ago
@UfixXx it wasn't a polish company, well im not going to go and spill the company dont really want to put the pilots career in jeperdy because hey they dident have to let me in, in the first place. how about we leave it at that.
:)
MrStatham77 7 months ago
@MrStatham77 yeah i hope that pilot gets fired
jackthayer 7 months ago 2
@MrStatham77 yeah, right...
DJsQuar3On3 6 months ago
Pedobear moment at 9:37
SingHouse 8 months ago
I hope the Captain has been rotting in hell. What a total disregard for human life! Sure he did not mean for the accident to happen. But intelligent people should not fully trust a machine, no matter how advancedly built it is.
yinstube 8 months ago
@yinstube i know exactly what u mean i mean seriously how long must people die? its not just planes even take the andera doria for example it as a luxury passenger liner and the crew put to much faith on a single piece of technology.... the radar the first of its kind on a ship at the time next thing u know BAM they collide with another ship it sinks people die and yet we never learn a lesson -_-
jackthayer 7 months ago
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danableful 8 months ago
the concept sounds like a cool new computergame, flying a plane with real life passengers.
To bad it is kind of illegal all around the world. The reasons that this is a good thing are shown in this video.
Lauvreede3003 9 months ago
Imagine, 50 years ago, a company is in the process of aquiring a new kind of airplane. The process would take months, people would talk about it because this don't happens every year in the company. Some kind of manual would be translated and printed and distributed. Today, you hear about a new thing and the next day you will be using it. If you can make mistakes, it's all right. Too much changes, let's slow down! The world won't stol.
Edinaldo08 9 months ago
why the hell is the pilot allowing his kid to play with people lives
rodriguezagnes 9 months ago 38
@rodriguezagnes Watch the programme properly. As far as he was concerned, he wasn't. The autopilot was supposed to remain in control while his children were allowed to believe they were "flying the plane". His mistake was to not warn his son to handle the control column lightly and not to push it. But even then he did not know that that would partially disconnect the autopilot because no-one told him that could happen.
turricaned 9 months ago
@turricaned nonetheless, all those passengers loss their lives because the pilot kid was playing with the control. Like the lady said @46:39, "children should not be allowed in the cockpit" #deadlylessonlearned
rodriguezagnes 9 months ago
@rodriguezagnes I'm not arguing with you - it shouldn't have happened that way. But it's important to remember that this incident also highlighted a problem with training on the A310. It wasn't generally known that turning the control column for 30 seconds would disengage the ailerons from the autopilot, nor was it known that there would be no warning that it had partially disconnected. Had the father known that, he probably would never have allowed the children to sit in his seat.
turricaned 9 months ago
@turricaned I agreed that it was the problem with the transfer of knowledge when the pilot was trained he was never told about this important feature. But if the kid wasn't at the pilot seat and fight with the autopilot with the steering in the beginning, it still wouldn't disengage the autopilot. In other words, it was still the kid who had caused the crashed.
luckybozo1 6 months ago
@luckybozo1 I remember a time when children were allowed to visit the flight deck on holiday flights - it instilled a fascination with aviation and gave them an unforgettable experience. Alas in this hyper-secure post 9/11 environment it has become impractical, but I still think it's a shame this has been lost. Admittedly allowing children into the cockpit and letting them sit in the pilot's seat are very different things, but I still maintain the training issue was the key factor.
turricaned 6 months ago
@turricaned Agreed, training issue was the main problem because the pilots would have known and recovered the plane in time. Of course I am not blaming the kid because he didn't know...but the fact that he was there changed the event which resulting in lost of lives. Would the pilot purposely push the steering against the intended direction out of curiosity? Most likely not! Unfortunately it was due to this event that the fault was found in the autopilot!
luckybozo1 6 months ago
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jfsa380 7 months ago
@rodriguezagnes its disgraceful. you would never see a german pilot making this type of blunder
bastianwence 6 months ago
@rodriguezagnes Human life in Russia is not number one priority in there mentality
KoziolekMatolek2010 5 months ago
@rodriguezagnes he wanted the kid to have fun, and he was pretty certain that nothing would happen. he overestimated the plane's computer intellegence.
ButteryAndBubbly 5 months ago
How in the world are thy heroes? they're irresponsible and careless not heroes!
R.i.p. all the innocent victims of their carelessness.
BRUCEBAUM45 10 months ago
@BRUCEBAUM45 I agree!
melisanda7 8 months ago
15:24 get the damn kid out of the pilot's seat!
MaxwellsDemon9 10 months ago 2