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  • I have a Black Widow and I've been trying to throw it like this for the last few weeks. It won't move at all. Recently it only works on real wood. Synthetic lanes provide me little movement and I've begun to find myself moving left and aiming at the pocket. I throw a normally straight ball on the right side of the alley and let it hook at the end of the lane. Any suggestions?

  • How do you know which way to get your ball drilled? I've never had one drilled for myself.

  • yea he only goes off balance after he releases the ball so no use judging his bowling technique ive got a 204 average and i kno guys who compete against me that have wierd techniques its bowling just like every other sport ppl have there on technique

  • who cares if he is lying, i still use the black widow pearl. I have won several tournements with it. It depends on who is throwing it, and how its is taken care of for how long it will last. the ball isnt that old. i also throw a ball that is from 2001 and have won tournements with that also.

  • im 14 and I average 233 im a stroker and i want to know if this ball could be good for me?

  • @anthony1797 if your a 233 awerage why would u need to ask that, also this ball is old... look at the jigsaw trap for the new hammer equivilant and btw, its best not to lie on here no one cares anyway

  • @anthony1797 i personally have the black widow solid and would recommend the solid over the pearl. my buds who got ht e pearl said it lost its hook within in the first year, ive had my solid for bout three now and its still going strong check out my video with it

  • For those who don't know... the ones complaining about the way he throws. Notice how the ball falls off his hand just before he "throws"(rolls) the ball. That lets gravity assist in the rev generation. Yes, his balance is sometimes off but he's putting a lot on the ball and his rev rate obviously matches his speed. The ball reads the lanes and makes a great move on the back end to face up to the pocket.

  • dude does the ball really run outta juice because my ball isnt curving much anaymore looks like i am getting a venom

  • I like this ball a lot. I just got one and they're about to stop making them if they already haven't.

  • I have the ball as a secondary to the jigsaw...i had it drilled to go longer and snap towards the end...great ball have had it for three years. AVG 196 high school

  • I own a Hammer Black Widdow Pearl i avg 174 on a long house oil moving to a different house next season and a different oil pattern so it will be intersting.

    If you get one make sure you get it drilled the way you want it done and that the person drilling the ball knows what the hell they are doing i had to have mine redrilled because the spastic douchebag that did it had my weight in the wrong place

  • have u found any problems with this bowling ball?

  • Yeah, it ran out of juice, old bowling ball for me now. I use it RARELY.

  • but would you recommend it at all for a stroker of an 171 average?

  • Sure, why not? Just get it drilled the way whatever benefits for you. I mean, if you can still find this ball available to purchased, I don't see why not. They've released newer models of this series that are suppose to be more "aggressive" but the Black Widow Pearl was pretty prime two years ago.

  • What boards do you start your feet on?

  • @Crono1508

    My husband owns and still uses his black widow. Maybe you should get it resurfaced. He got his new when I came out and it still hits as hard as it did before. All you need to do is set it out side and let the sun bake the ball so all the oil will drip off of it. It works for my husband it might work for you.

  • @Crono1508 yea i have the black widow pearl to. I throw on an average speed of 17mph and a rev rate of about 475-500. i used to get this bad boy to hook alot and now i use it as a spare ball. now i have an ebonite playmaker :D and a brunswick c system 3.5 and ohh buddy that ball has so much snap!!!!

  • get some rotation.

  • Nice ball, but I don't like your hook. I've thrown the black widow it has so much more potentional if you throw it out towards the 1 or the 2.

  • that can lead to some bad entry angles...

  • very nice line you got there...how many 300's did u bowl?

  • Two. One in league, and another in Gym class.

    Gym class wasn't in league, but my classmates were impressed. ;)

  • gym class?

  • Wait. You have a bowling alley in gym class?

  • When I was in high school, gym class would take a bus to the local bowling alley for a week.

  • hello

    sorry my english i am french

    what song in the video Hammer Black Widow Pearl Bowling and Columbia 300 Momentum Bowling

    i love song

    your game and really superb

    thank you

  • what were the lane conditions?

  • nice ball and release, a little off balance but all in all real good pocket hits, would of like it more if you weren't shooting jumpshots and stupid things of that nature, act like you've bowled a strike before.

  • I've stated several times this wasn't meant to be youtube release. This was actually a school project for one of my classes.

    It had different music, transitions, etc.

    But when I was recording this video, it was never meant to be uploaded online.

    I never do that when I'm in league bowling, or anything stupid related.

    If you're curious, I do have another video on here, that was recorded for youtube.

  • what class was it for.

  • Grahpic Arts... pretty much do photos, videos, calendar, etc.

  • i forgot to add i throw a lot like u do at 2:23

  • im a beginner and i throw a straight ball with a lil hook at the end into the pocket do you think this ball would be a good choice for my bowling style??? i amd willing to make changes to soot this ball better if needed.

  • my god no lol

    this is a straight up cranker ball.

    hammer is a straight up cranker brand.

    i gave away my bite because it hooks too much.

    i'm a stroker

    i play the outside boards.

    i suggest since you're a begginer get something like a Tropical Storm or a Groove.

    if you think you're a little bit better than that

    i'd say get something like a Wrath or a Thunderstruck.

  • Yes, definitely start out with something less aggressive, Tropical Storm or a Groove are excellent choices.

  • k sounds good thanks for the help

  • if you want to get into a entry level performance ball try out the Ebonite Tornado.

  • great ball.

    as for you

    work on your balance.

    really.

    it will do wonders for your accuracy and timing.

    better accuracy + better timing = better more predictable shot.

    you can work around that.

    if you throw the ball 20 mph and 1000 revs one shot then 10 mph and 10 revs the next you're not doing much for yourself.

  • I advise you to watch my new released video in my profile.

    Columbia 300 Momentum Bowling

  • does it matter what ball u use? ;D

  • Yes, but I have a thing for old equipment...

  • how much is 1 brand new ball and how long could i use it?

  • It depends if you go for high performance. Bowling balls can wager between $149.99 and $229.99 with drilling. They normally keep their cool (bowling ball) for a year or two.

  • dude ur awsome whats ur best game

  • 300

  • no offence but when you make this vids you seem to care more about yourself and not really showing what the ball can rly do

  • My intention for this video wasn't to sponsor anything. This was actually a video project I did for school, but decided to take the unedited film home and make one for youtube as well. I'm not trying to sell this bowling ball or post websites or shit like that to be honest.

    Think of it more of a personal bowling video, that someone uploaded for themselves or anybody that draws interest.

  • buy a black widow venom its lovely:D

  • i would go with the Bw venom. its by far the most reactive ball i own. the lowest ive shot on it so far has been a 180. i would highly recomend getting it

  • Note to self, video is almost a year old, and this video was made before the Black Widow Venom was released.

  • My BWP was my 1st ball. Been bowling for a year now. No problem and still packs a hard punch. I use my BWP for spares or dry/med. oil ball now.

  • You look like an idiot with your retarded hand gestures but nice ball. I'm considering getting it.

  • Just a "habit"

  • This is a great ball, I own one myself. But they die fairly quickly if you don't look after them.

    All i do is give mine a bath once a month and that seems to do the trick. But yeh i highly recommend getting one or a venom they are also a great ball.

  • If you want a ball that has length, this an excellent choice.

    But in another year or so I bet Hammer will come out with a new bowling ball describing its "better" than the Black Widows.

  • They just came out with "the sauce" with "their best coverstock yet" but i'm still debating which black widow to get i'm thinking about the Black Widow Venom right now, but they all just look so good!

  • Just to be clear, my Black Widow Pearl didn't last very long.

    It barely even hooks anymore (a lot of games on it) and it's a deadweight.

    It's great ball from the start, but it has a pretty nasty after taste along the way.

    I would probably go with a Venom over the Black Widow Pearl instead (since its newer anyways)

  • Good call i'm probably gonna go with the BW Venom. As you said it is newer so there might be a couple of improvement in it.

    As for your Black Widow Pearl have you tried batheing it? It could take over a dozen times and quite a while, but it might save your ball. If you want to know how I bathe my balls hit me up and I will get back to you.

    -Peace

  • thats why u get the balls rejuvenated every year or so. it sucks the oil out of the ball and it reacts like new.

  • im twelve years old and just got this ball 14 pounds i average 145 with a smoking inferno and a banshee eraser...i was going to get a fury....was this a better choice?

  • highscore?

  • 300

  • the singer of this song sounds like he takin a shit

  • hope you play basket ball better than you bowl!

  • Hey, I was wondering what ball do you think would be better. The black widow pearl of the Brunswick fury pearl? Want something that hits hard and continues through the pins. Thanks.

  • Quick point out, I'm not a huge fan of Brunswick. Their balls are great out of the box, but they're basically turn into a sponge quickly.

    No doubt, if you got the Black Widow Pearl, I'm sure you're going to like this ball. The new one, Black Widow Venom, is similar to this ball but I feel as if that Venom will skid too much; might not be a good selection, who knows.

    I guess I would suggest Hammer Black Widow Pearl, or try the new Ebonite Playmaker. Its the pearl version of the Gamebreaker.

  • I got the venom and it doesnt hook to late. In fact i used it on the shark and it hooked more than my cell

  • dude, slow down your feet and get some balance at the foul line. You dont have to run up to the foul line to get more ball speed. Your approach and mechanics are horrible, but somehow you can still throw a decent ball.

  • Hey, recently I've been practicing and I've been trying to work on my balance, like you mentioned. I also was taking it a little bit "slower" to the approach. Today wasn't too bad, and I was getting good reaction. 244, 208, 287 today practicing. :)

    Thanks for advice by the way.

  • Lol they talk about balance and footing... lol Ide like to see what they would say about me.. Im right handed and slide on my RIGHT foot lol.. normal ball speeds 20-21 mph and revs on avg 620-640 when need be can get up around 23-24 and 700-730 revs on the ball.. for 4 years in a row AVG 240+ on three leagues a week and 218-225 on our PBA exp league for 6 years in a row now...and own 7 PBA Regional titles dating back since 05.. you throw a lot of ball and do it well dont let haters get you down

  • the way you throw the ball is rather impressive when looking at your release that you are able to get that many revs on the ball the way you release it.. if you could learn to get your hand under the ball a little more you would find that you open up even more room to miss on the lanes.. dont let these wanna be strokers talk shit to ya they are hating on ya because they wish they could get that much on the ball.. and the comment about ball speed lol that guys a douch you have enough looks 17-18?

  • wanna be crankers**** you are a very good bowler and I would be proud to bowl any doubles event with you... they just wish there game was as good as yours... keep it up and learn to get a little more axis tilt on the ball by getting your hand under it more and you will see how much that side rotation on the ball will open the lanes... you look to have plenty of room to miss as it is and will a little more tilt you would have more!!! and you have plenty on fingers to get more tilt.. just try it.

  • 620revs low end and 730 revs high end. I would like to see that

  • @elidefoe11

    im 600 on the highend

  • wait till its resurfaced it hooks way more

  • only you would act like you just made a swish in bball after a strike, faggatron

  • awesome video

  • its called balance

  • I love this ball 234 and 232 high hame. 650 high series. 185 avg. I love this ball. I plan to use it for many years to come.

    And also, you really good. Congrats at what you've accomplished

  • awesome

  • ha and i am 12 and i have been bowling for 6 months XD

  • DUDE I JUST BOWLED A 172 WIT MY WID!!

  • dude i got a widow fuckin love it the best bowling ball ever black widow perl hammer!! but i am olny 12 and i hook the ball so much my high game with my widow is a 213

  • Your high game is pretty close to my average. :P

  • same... i average 210...

  • You hook the ball so much... right. probably throw it 3 mph..

  • Are you saying my ball speed is low?

    It is actually 15-16 mph.

    And to be honest it doesn't look that slow in the video...

  • I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to somebody else.

  • yea i went bowling today and thats about the same place as where i stand and about the same mark. the only problem is that my bowling alley where i live just got resurfaced so it's very oily, and the oil isn't soaking into the lanes its just like a coat on top of it which is really throwing me off on my shots. sometimes my ball barely moves, but when the lanes are dry it has a big backend. so i never know how im gonna throw....

  • i have one more question, where do you stand?

  • Also note, that I'm standing way to the left in this video because this ball hooked so damn much when I got it.

  • how much is ur drift tho ? beacuse i know tons of ppl that stand way left or right and drift to the other side ofthe lane

  • i like the way you throw, its the same as me. i just recieved my black widow pearl and i was having a little trouble finding out where to throw it. but i think im gonna hit the same marks your hitting. How fast are you throwing it? my bowling alley tells us i usually throw from 15-17 mph.

  • Normally my ball speed is in 15 to 17 mph as well. That's what my bowling alley reads as well. Although where do I stand? I don't have a set position. Because the lanes aren't always going to be the same. The leagues I bowl in they can dry up pretty easily, 10 guys to a lane. But uh... I guess if you really wanted to know where I usually start out. About five boards to the left of the center playing between third and second arrow.

  • Has this ball been sanded in this video?

  • No, everything was stock.

    Came right out of the box.

  • not bad at all could work on the balance. guys watch my bowling videos and comment on them and say how i do tips are welcome.

  • do u know the hook potential of this ball?

  • Honestly, the best I can describe.

    Excellent length with agressive backend reaction.

  • thanks... they didnt have a chart on the hook potential so i was jw if it was better than the twisted fury i just got. twisted fury is amazing

  • Heh, Brunswick... I'm not really a fan of Brunswick. Most of their bowling balls are sponges, they suck up oil really well.

    I guess you can consider me an Ebonite fan. Hammer is owned by Ebonite and I was thinking about getting the Complete NV unless there's any new releases over the summer or beginning fall of this year.

  • yeah lol. na twisted fury is good. i was initially gonna get the black widow pearl. but twisted fury was hot looking and it has good midlane hook too.. i seen mad twisted furys at the shop. a lot of ppl are buying them so i knew they were good.. isnt there a new black widwo coming out?

  • Not that I heard of, although I really don't have any idea.

    I thought the Black Widow Bite was going to wrap it up.

    Like I said, new bowling balls won't be coming out now until like the beginning of fall. :P

  • black widow venom july 17th!!

  • Indeed.

  • Crono, nice base form; however can I give you a tip? PLEASE stop doing what so many people do and trying to hit on it TOO MUCH! It's costing you balance, and without a LONG pearl ball like you have on a house shot, the ball would bite early and roll out anyway. Just relax your release, ESPECIALLY with a long, pearl ball... and give it time to read the lane. Those strikes can be IMPROVED on. Don't just think "hey strike"! You are kicking down the 5 pin and 8/10 pins a bit late - let it roll!!!

  • plz get som new shoes, a shoe that can fix your stop,, i recomend dexter. you are gliding throu your release

  • Great technique.

    I love my widow. With it, my average has jumped to 197, and my new high game is 278. Fantastic ball.

    PS. Awesome shirt.

  • I hope I didn't give anybody the wrong picture of me being unconsistent.

    I threw numerous lines for anybody that maybe able to relate to me and see the reaction.

    If you don't believe me, I tried my best to throw a straight ball at 2:23. :(

    Yeah, that is only ONE of the TWO shirts that I do have for my Black Widow Pearl. :P

  • i love my Widow. im getting a new one though cuz its getting worn out and old. should i just go for the BW Solid?

  • It depends...

    Black Widow Pearl is known for its aggressive backened snap.

    With the Black Widow Solid, it is meant for heavy lane conditions. And the house shot, if that's what you bowl on, isn't really that much oil. But what it will do is hook early if that's what you like.

    If I was you, I would go with the Black Widow Bite. That ball has backened to it but its suppose to be medium oil conditions and it also can hook early, I believe.

    I personally wouldn't rebuy another Black Widow Pearl.

  • Your pretty good dude... SICK shirt!

  • Thanks, made the "Black Widow" in a class at school. The shirt also has the hammer logo with it saying Black Widow under it as well. :)

  • wat is the song

  • Song: The Birth of Catastrophe

    Artist: With Broken Wings

  • nice =]

    Ya Im starting to get the same line as you. I really suck in my video I looked back at it today. I might make a new one because ive gotten a ton better.

    But your really good whats your average?

  • I average 209 on Saturday Mornings, my youth league, the manager throws out the shot called 3-Man Classic instead of the house shot. It has more oil on the edges, so it narrows your shot a little bit more.

    On the traveling league that I bowl on Sundays which is the house shot at all different places, I average 219.

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