I think that these engines are revving higher so it sounds cooler they limited them now and they sound different. But yea I hear this and it like brings a tear to my eye.
Can you guess the circuit they're simulating? There's a pitstop included at around 2:20....I have a feeling it might be Australia but there are a lot of gearshifts so maybe it's somewhere like Hungary....
honda really needs to get a team back into formula one or at least get their engines back in it toro rosso needs a better engine than the ferrari that they have
muy bueno, lastima que Honda no ha podido lograr algo interesante entre 2001 y 2005 porque realmente esa gente si que sabia lo que es un motor para ganar.Muy buen video!!
They run at extremely high R.P.M. and are quite small displacement. A typical road car's V-8 will displace twice what an f1 engine will and redline at around 6-7 thousand rpm. An F-1 engine redlines somewhere in the neighborhood of 19 thousand rpm. They actually have more in common with high performance sportbike engines than car engines. imagine 2 hayabusa engines mated together to form a v-8 then tuned to rev like an r-6 and you kind of get the idea. They also run different fuel.
Also the V8 F1 engines usually use single plane crankshafts, basically a 4 cylinder crank with wider journals. This allows them to get even firing on each bank of cylinders. Road car V8's use 2 plane cranks with uneven firing per bank hence the V8 burble. 2 plane cranks have better balance. V10's would be set up for even firing per bank as well. so the exhaust note of a F1 V8 or V10 is like two 4 or 5 cylinder engines running 90 or 57 degrees out of phase.
@tfmillwork No the crank is made single plane to get even firing order so that the exhaust system can be tuned to deliver maximum power. The maximum revs are decided by piston and valve acceleration and the weight of those components ( by rules now ) the design of the crank does not influence this.
tits sounding engine now about those hats? LOOK! it is Godzilla! RUN! power up the laser, err, particle beam generator weapon to kill him from our power grid AKA in the USA power lines
Yeah, sounds just like my Volkswagen ...or maybe not so much. It's cool how they simulate the actual circuits when testing with the shifting and everything.
In those days, they were rebuilt every race. Nowadays, they are forced to design them to last two race weekends.
Oh, and "rocker" should almost be a dirty word when it comes to these things. They all have gear driven dual overhead cam valvetrains with pneumatic valve control to force the valves shut.
Man, when that thing opens up and works up the gears...Just Amazing! I could listen to that all day. What's even more amazing is just how minimal the parts are. There was an article in an old issue of Formula 1 magazine that showed the inner workings of a previous Renault engine, and OMG it was just unbelievable. The pistons were only about 10-15 mm from crown to skirt...just barely enough to hold together...and at 19,000rpms. It's amazing how these engines work the way they do.
Much bigger than 40mm, but it was kind of hard to judge, and I haven't seen the article in awhile. Maybe in the 80-100mm range. And I think it had 3 rings, but it may have been 2.
it about 2-3 races. but that is asking for alot out of the engine. f1 engines are some of the most highly stressed peaces of equipement on this planet. im serious i did research on it
Renault favoured the idea of an electro pneumatic valve train on their return to F1, other teams were not so keen (one of them being mercedes) do to the power consumption, there are reports that some engine manufacturers tested both systems against each other and there was little gain, the engine management constraints were also a problem as every valves position had to be monitored. So alot of teams kept that aspect mechanical.
The valves are opened mechnically (using a cam lobe)and they are shut pnematically, using gas prevents valve bounce, heat is another factor that is taken into consideration, aperently the opening or valves using pneumatics is in developement as is an electromagnetic system. The engineering magazine 'eureka' is full of these ideas, very interesting.
No springs, they use compressed air to shut the valves. Something along the lines of the old-school engines warping springs past about 12k revs so renault invented the pneumatic valve train. Impressive stuff.
I`m no engineer but they use air pressure or some sort off gas because of the heat. And it`s been that way for a long time. It came mayby somewhere in 80`s
they dont have valve springs. They have Pneumatic valve actuation. So compressed air opens 'em and also slam's em shut. It's a fairly hardcore system. (it also eliminates the need to use camshafts, which saves alot of weight and power) ;)
Not correct. Cam opens valves and gas pressured follower buckets close them, closing gas pressure is high stops valve bounce. Springs cant keep up at these revs. But still has cam as a cam is still the best and quickest way to open valves today. Closing valves has always been the problem!
marek hit it on the spot. Also Renault has been testing out their magnetic valve train system which of course uses magnets instead of air pressure. These F1 cars are a good 15+ years ahead in automotive technology.
it would probably take away from the preformance but it would sound so cool if those idled hella low and had a cam wiht big lobes and sounded like an american v8 but then revved to what they rev
That's cool! You can tell from the braking points that they're doing 2 laps at Suzuka, although after the first lap it sounds like they cruise down pit lane with the rev limiter on = )
wow, GOOD catch.. you can hear it right before the pit lane speed limiter trips on, the long long straight with a slight dip for 180R followed by the quick down shift, squirt of throttle and then into the pit lane
These engines Vtec have a Vtec lobe in its Vtec mode. Vtec! ^.^
Dillon1791 2 weeks ago
BMW has nothing on this. Their V10's and V12's are week compared to a Honda V10.
Dillon1791 2 weeks ago
Is max HP = 1,017 ?
v10engine 2 months ago
idles at 7000rpm lol
4dread5 3 months ago
idles at 7000rpm lol
4dread5 3 months ago
Those techs look so bored. I would have drooled into the computer and shorted it out...
Snoep76239 5 months ago
It's idle like my car's redline.
oddguy314 5 months ago
I think that these engines are revving higher so it sounds cooler they limited them now and they sound different. But yea I hear this and it like brings a tear to my eye.
victomba 6 months ago
LOL pitstop at 2:20
joyfulvulture 7 months ago
It's saying RELEASE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yerty2000 8 months ago 4
WOW.
srtspence 8 months ago
18,000 RPM´s???? Holy cow that´s some serious numbers!
JaRByaku 9 months ago
Reminds me just how dull sounding today's F1 V8 engines are. Bring back V10's and V12's and give us something worth listening to.
MrVideoRater1 9 months ago
Finally a video with no talking and no background music
MrBond8821 10 months ago 2
@MrBond8821 The engine is music to me :D
Guapoguy1994 9 months ago
@MrBond8821 I agree totally!
JimHWY 9 months ago
sounds like my girlfriend
farazfontana 1 year ago 3
Yep defo Suzuka.
fandyboy 1 year ago
I want one of those Meccano sets that will make me build this...
1D0N 1 year ago
Can you guess the circuit they're simulating? There's a pitstop included at around 2:20....I have a feeling it might be Australia but there are a lot of gearshifts so maybe it's somewhere like Hungary....
ebyard 1 year ago
@ebyard
It's Suzuka.
PulletSurprise 1 year ago
@PulletSurprise Wow, and I thought I was an F1 nut. Good ear, I agree with Suzuka!
cconant13 8 months ago
honda really needs to get a team back into formula one or at least get their engines back in it toro rosso needs a better engine than the ferrari that they have
falcon23567 1 year ago
at 3.36 looks like there are 2 censored (blue blocks) indicators, what are they?
ux2xbxe 1 year ago
@ux2xbxe probably torque and horsepower.
riflemanjim 1 year ago
鈴鹿だ
mingdc52006 1 year ago
jejejeje suzukaaaaaa!!!!
elgaitatcmouras 1 year ago
SUZUKA )))
dmvalnovikov 1 year ago
that is the most beautiful whine i'v ever heard....almost great!
mouse97410 1 year ago
sick...
Borkessbre 1 year ago 14
fuckin v8s
Antoniopubcorner 1 year ago
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tsuitemasen 2 years ago
W ferrari
CrazyBart69 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
could listen to this all day long
richie90210 2 years ago
aahh...eye and ear candy.
hlbpr 2 years ago
H ow
O dd,
N o
D amn
A cceleration.
DrMotorDude 2 years ago
that's actually funny. but no amercan car company could ever compete with honda's race engines.
Serpentracer 2 years ago
Don't you fell kinda silly when you comment something like this at a V10 engine running at 20K rpm? honest question.
Polaris502 2 years ago
My Lawn mower has a honda motor on it, was it tested there?
kansaskid6969 2 years ago 2
Imagine how much it costs to develop an engine with expensive looking facilities like that.
F1 isn't the most expensive racing series for no good reason.
MichaelJHuman 2 years ago
I like how the two techs are just sitting there @ 2:08 ...
"yup, just another day at the office"... lol.
Muskett333 2 years ago 19
that's called workplace discipline.
hlbpr 2 years ago
@Muskett333 that would be my next job :D
DrDofenSmith 1 year ago
@Muskett333 word lmaooo
Gtbomb1 6 months ago
muy bueno, lastima que Honda no ha podido lograr algo interesante entre 2001 y 2005 porque realmente esa gente si que sabia lo que es un motor para ganar.Muy buen video!!
LONJAPERFECTA 2 years ago
suzuka??
TF1JarnoTrulli 2 years ago
exactly !
N1cosoFt 2 years ago
nice sound!!
thank you for uplord :-)
TF1JarnoTrulli 2 years ago
Yes. Suzuka simulation. 1:40 - Hairpin.
IShallTellYouWhat 2 years ago 3
My god, this engine just screams! That is so loud.
No1snYpeslikme 2 years ago
they used to be 2.4 li V8's small cylinders and RPMS almost to 20 thousand that is why they sound so dif
famouschrisb 2 years ago
they still are 2.4l v8's. they just are limited these days to "just only" 18 000 :D
tohtorigyro 2 years ago
can someone explain in dummy terms why a F1 engine sounds, and preforms so different then a regular engine? This has always been a mystery to me.
kansaskid6969 2 years ago
They run at extremely high R.P.M. and are quite small displacement. A typical road car's V-8 will displace twice what an f1 engine will and redline at around 6-7 thousand rpm. An F-1 engine redlines somewhere in the neighborhood of 19 thousand rpm. They actually have more in common with high performance sportbike engines than car engines. imagine 2 hayabusa engines mated together to form a v-8 then tuned to rev like an r-6 and you kind of get the idea. They also run different fuel.
YukonDemon 2 years ago 2
Very short stroke about 40mm and it's naturally aspirated. Also have pneumatic valves.
Agree with yukondemon
2jzgtejza80 2 years ago
pneumatic or cam that returns the valve (no springs, nothing)
tohtorigyro 2 years ago
Also the V8 F1 engines usually use single plane crankshafts, basically a 4 cylinder crank with wider journals. This allows them to get even firing on each bank of cylinders. Road car V8's use 2 plane cranks with uneven firing per bank hence the V8 burble. 2 plane cranks have better balance. V10's would be set up for even firing per bank as well. so the exhaust note of a F1 V8 or V10 is like two 4 or 5 cylinder engines running 90 or 57 degrees out of phase.
ValExperimenter 1 year ago
@ValExperimenter
Is that also a reason why they are able to run such high rpm's on those V8 engines?
tfmillwork 1 year ago
@tfmillwork No the crank is made single plane to get even firing order so that the exhaust system can be tuned to deliver maximum power. The maximum revs are decided by piston and valve acceleration and the weight of those components ( by rules now ) the design of the crank does not influence this.
ValExperimenter 1 year ago
Bad ass hats those guys are wearing.
lancelot1883 2 years ago 3
WOW
Cobra67stang 2 years ago
Yes it is, also wait till it's night time were ever your at, turn off the lights, turn up your speakers and watch it in the dark!! LOL!
MOLSON783 2 years ago
is it normal to get tingles down your spine and a slight erection while hearing this engine run thru its rpm range?
Minato2003 2 years ago 5
yes it is!!!!
150aintenuff 2 years ago
yes, symptoms are completely normal. but if you have an erection lasting over 4 hours, you should call your doctor.
ok333 2 years ago 4
I need this engine now! ...lol
HJP007 2 years ago
Hahaha, that is awesome!!!
electronbeam 3 years ago
Amazing sounds; made me feel like I just did lap of Suzuka.
I bet the dial on the right is Hp, and this thing brushes one thousand.
That sound makes me just want to go faster!
AgentJayZ 3 years ago
the exhaust is made of inconel.
mobius1291 2 years ago
I've somewhere find that tis Titan-Vanadium exhaust coast near 20000$
theriontom 3 years ago
when work beckames passion...
ABUNAI888 3 years ago
f1 and top fuel kick ass go japs
psyhobill5150 3 years ago
These fucking japaneses know how to work (at least they knew)
DanielDouradoF 3 years ago 4
Wow i wonder what the decibles peak at.
MarkWilliams212 3 years ago
lol never in my life would i think id hear a v10 scream at such a high rpm...lmao
awolminded 3 years ago
bwuahahah that would be one lovely job i admit
dubvipers 2 years ago
Ah that's just pure filth. What a noise!
skeletorphd 3 years ago
tits sounding engine now about those hats? LOOK! it is Godzilla! RUN! power up the laser, err, particle beam generator weapon to kill him from our power grid AKA in the USA power lines
urquattro196 3 years ago
So this is what Satan sounds like.. I like it!
skylineaddict 3 years ago 2
Insane!
veyronzondaf 3 years ago 2
HOLY FUCKIN SHIT!!! I freakin started laughing when they showed the RPMs. Thats so retarded its cool!!
brooksdenver 3 years ago
V10 Sounds amazing! F1 should have stayed with 10 cylinders..
veyronzondaf 3 years ago
Yeah, sounds just like my Volkswagen ...or maybe not so much. It's cool how they simulate the actual circuits when testing with the shifting and everything.
borde049 3 years ago 3
what a song !
museumcaffe 3 years ago 4
In those days, they were rebuilt every race. Nowadays, they are forced to design them to last two race weekends.
Oh, and "rocker" should almost be a dirty word when it comes to these things. They all have gear driven dual overhead cam valvetrains with pneumatic valve control to force the valves shut.
GFVagent007 3 years ago 2
great video
nahuewhip 3 years ago
downshifting
joaorp 3 years ago
Man, when that thing opens up and works up the gears...Just Amazing! I could listen to that all day. What's even more amazing is just how minimal the parts are. There was an article in an old issue of Formula 1 magazine that showed the inner workings of a previous Renault engine, and OMG it was just unbelievable. The pistons were only about 10-15 mm from crown to skirt...just barely enough to hold together...and at 19,000rpms. It's amazing how these engines work the way they do.
GFVagent007 4 years ago 2
How big were they in diameter? 40mm? How many piston rings did they have if any.
mikeb1444 3 years ago
Much bigger than 40mm, but it was kind of hard to judge, and I haven't seen the article in awhile. Maybe in the 80-100mm range. And I think it had 3 rings, but it may have been 2.
GFVagent007 3 years ago
if I recall correctly, no piston rings.
Black2KGSR 3 years ago
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Now I fell better. For a while I was cracking my head on how they got them going so fast. Those fucking cheaters.
mikeb1444 3 years ago
They most certainly do have piston rings!
scrfce123 2 years ago
What you reakon the life expectancy on these engines are ?
john13200242 3 years ago
one race!
jstoneracing 3 years ago 4
Serious!
john13200242 3 years ago 2
Two - if this is the 2005 V10 then it had to last two races
dave41184 3 years ago
Yeah not one race 2 races like Dave said. 2005 V10 had to last 2 races.
john13200242 3 years ago
it about 2-3 races. but that is asking for alot out of the engine. f1 engines are some of the most highly stressed peaces of equipement on this planet. im serious i did research on it
fahimsultan93 1 year ago
downshifting is deadly lol
nissanshift20 4 years ago
sounds like a simulation of suzuka.
cyberbob20 4 years ago
Yes, you're right. I'm hearing this as well.
Sagess 3 years ago
I LOVE this sound...
Tyrell76 4 years ago 2
Have they ever been on the podium? Air or eletronic valves?
airfueleddie 4 years ago
That really is one of the most beautiful noises in the whole world, theres nothin that can top an F1 engine singin at top revs.
Engineering perfection at its absolute best.
l34052 4 years ago
amaizing!
fermillo65 4 years ago
Increible!!! muy buen sonido.
pablo967543 4 years ago
perfect sound
CaHeKgreka 4 years ago 2
18.500+ r/min = 310+ r/sec
undeadMP 4 years ago
HOW MANY RPM ?
paolo3988 4 years ago
so clever they still cant get it to last the full race distance
mitchymagic 4 years ago
these guys who built this engine have superior brain power!
tkktkt 4 years ago
beautiful
falkensir 4 years ago
is that a derranged seagull on nitrous??????? i made a cygon whore cry like that once....then she bit my nose off!!! arrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!
opel47 4 years ago
you can almost tell what race course they are simulating.
kartkid100 4 years ago
Renault favoured the idea of an electro pneumatic valve train on their return to F1, other teams were not so keen (one of them being mercedes) do to the power consumption, there are reports that some engine manufacturers tested both systems against each other and there was little gain, the engine management constraints were also a problem as every valves position had to be monitored. So alot of teams kept that aspect mechanical.
Micrarwd 4 years ago
ohh!!! heavenly sound for my ears
rtpbull 4 years ago
EXCELLENT
arrogance8590 4 years ago
The clearly HONDA SOUND is one and only harmony anytime.
Deadmonkeybrain 4 years ago
at 3:39, the one on the left is clearly a rev-meter. But whats the one on the right? the bhp it's producing?....
Narginator 4 years ago
HP baby...............HP!
brakel8r 4 years ago
music....sweet music
FastFerrari82 4 years ago
cool
bluepoisonousangel 4 years ago
The valves are opened mechnically (using a cam lobe)and they are shut pnematically, using gas prevents valve bounce, heat is another factor that is taken into consideration, aperently the opening or valves using pneumatics is in developement as is an electromagnetic system. The engineering magazine 'eureka' is full of these ideas, very interesting.
Micrarwd 4 years ago
i heard they have NO cams.......that its all electro-pneumatically operated.
marek0086 4 years ago
Yes, it has pneumatic valve springs to decrease drag and response timing on high RPM.
Renault Sport was the first I believe, since their turbocharged V6 engine.
That's why it sounds much like an air impact wrench.
There are mechanical (thus more reliable) solutions like Ducati's desmodromic valvetrains.
SgtH3nry3 4 years ago
No springs, they use compressed air to shut the valves. Something along the lines of the old-school engines warping springs past about 12k revs so renault invented the pneumatic valve train. Impressive stuff.
muddwell 4 years ago
Yes, but it still is a spring as it's a bellow filled with pressurized nitrogen I believe (could be any other gas though).
A pneumatic valve train tank has to be filled with a compressed gas which runs out of pressures after 1,5 hour.
SgtH3nry3 4 years ago
Anyway I think that Formula 1 should remain a open-wheel prototype Grand Prix motorsport with a strict formula.
But they should use technology which can be applied in road cars, and it needs to be harder.
And pneumatic valvetrains aren't in that list.
Desmodromic valvetrains are, however that technology is owned by Ducati.
SgtH3nry3 4 years ago
With the bleed down factor can u imagine when we'll be able to buy a road car that will rev to 19,000rpm!!!
l34052 4 years ago
いいじゃん!!
鈴鹿のコースシュミレーションかな??
0907024 4 years ago
I want that job.
HD41117 4 years ago
F1 engines have camshafts.
JelloBiafra44 4 years ago
nice vtec
Shazee083 4 years ago
Es un sobo a 5 manos. Cualquiera lo entiende.
Como dice uno de mis ex-polvos..."mucho con demasiado".
Urologotico 4 years ago
How do they stop valve bounce at those revs?
9fifty5 4 years ago
I`m no engineer but they use air pressure or some sort off gas because of the heat. And it`s been that way for a long time. It came mayby somewhere in 80`s
Correct me If I'm wrong
jkand 4 years ago
they dont have valve springs. They have Pneumatic valve actuation. So compressed air opens 'em and also slam's em shut. It's a fairly hardcore system. (it also eliminates the need to use camshafts, which saves alot of weight and power) ;)
marek0086 4 years ago
Not correct. Cam opens valves and gas pressured follower buckets close them, closing gas pressure is high stops valve bounce. Springs cant keep up at these revs. But still has cam as a cam is still the best and quickest way to open valves today. Closing valves has always been the problem!
fb2800 4 years ago
ye that makes sense. Not only to stop valve bounce, but also valve 'float'.
marek0086 4 years ago
why not just put a cam under the rocker to close the valve -the same way its opened?
quietfamily 3 years ago
marek hit it on the spot. Also Renault has been testing out their magnetic valve train system which of course uses magnets instead of air pressure. These F1 cars are a good 15+ years ahead in automotive technology.
pr0n3 4 years ago
it would probably take away from the preformance but it would sound so cool if those idled hella low and had a cam wiht big lobes and sounded like an american v8 but then revved to what they rev
FORDGTFANATIC 4 years ago
I think I just blew my speakers,great,great vid..
red8bus 4 years ago
That's cool! You can tell from the braking points that they're doing 2 laps at Suzuka, although after the first lap it sounds like they cruise down pit lane with the rev limiter on = )
nevett 4 years ago
wow, GOOD catch.. you can hear it right before the pit lane speed limiter trips on, the long long straight with a slight dip for 180R followed by the quick down shift, squirt of throttle and then into the pit lane
floundericiousWA 4 years ago
the best symphony (brazil!)
sergiorocha11 4 years ago
HONDA
Thank you very much ;)
Larache8 4 years ago
OH
MY
GOD
djklaudiio 5 years ago
When you got a motor that bad ass powering a infinitly superior vehicle....Why does NASCAR exist???
I love F1!!!
Super73VW 5 years ago 2
formula one will never be the same, Bring back the V10
jackarmark 5 years ago
One of thé greatest videos i`ve ever seen when it comes to high rpm!!!!
GOOSE BUMPS...aaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
rkremer 5 years ago
19,000 r.p.m. FTMFW!!!!
ep3moschini 5 years ago
honda's big block is better than domestics' big time!
gurlyracerzz 5 years ago
best job in the world,i want one of them green caps lol
me777me 5 years ago
suzuka turns round the course.
nao55akita 5 years ago
Rare footage, great show!
pkr150 5 years ago
go HONDA go
L4dyk 5 years ago
excellent thanks
yigitm 5 years ago
Great Vid!!
TECmono 5 years ago