Guys, you're overthinking this. You will only get hydrogen gas and oxygen gas. You would know if you got chlorine gas, because chlorine gas is naturally greenish. The salt is only added in to make sure that the water transmits a current since distilled water will carry very little current if no current at all. One also can't use a traditional reaction diagram to show what happens because the sodium and chlorine break apart into ions, not their normal selves. It happens to the best of us.
so i suppose that NaCl+H2O yields NaOH + H2+Cl2 through electrolysis so if you add aluminum 2Al+6NaOH yields 2Na3AlO3+3H so you can have a second reaction to make more hydrogen. But i think NaOH is highly corrosive so be careful.
Similar problem because in seawater you already have NaCl. It is better to use tap water add little sulfuric acid and carry out electrolysis in such a way that it is not collected e.g. in the garage. Otherwise, if you ignite, you may blow out the whole garage or even house.
I done something similar to this in my kitchen using a plastic sandwich bag, when I stuck the fire to it I blew nasty water all over the place :) My wife did not like it!! LOL
is there an economical way to do this? two thirds of the world's surface is water, which is two parts a potent fuel, and one part the air we need to survive! I wondered if it was possible to separate those elements- thx for this enlightenment!
Can anyone explain me why the battery doesn't extremely heat up or explode , don't we have a shortcut here? I just see positive electricty and negative travelling through water and getting on contact with eachother without any "user" like a light.. Anyone who can explain to me why there is(n't) a shortcut?
Terrible way to create hydrogen it's inneficiënt becouse it also creates a third component called "sodium hydroxide" along with the chlorine and hydrogen. Use baking soda in your water instead to not create a toxic gas like chlorine. Also when doing this kind of electrolysis chlorine is always trying to re-bind with the 2 other elements, not effective at all for creating hydrogen gas. DON"T USE THIS METHOD!
@rdekraker I am trying to find out how to make a hydroxide drink as an antioxidant which has been described as a water molecule with one of the two hydrogen parts removed. Do you know how I could do this? Thanks!
if youre serious than what youre referring to is something someone made up to scam people and get money out of them.
anti oxidant is something that slows down oxidation, some stuff they put in food articles to make them rot less fast for example.
In human use we call antioxidants "vitamins"... try having some of those.... and there are a lot of recepies for vitamin shakes out there XD you don't need to remove hydrogen from water to get those :P
It's impossible to get a water molecule with one Hydrogen atom removed. It simply would not happen. The molecules wouldn't react.
When you react Hydrogen and Oxygen, you can only get H2O or H2O2. That's water or hydrogen peroxide. Peroxide is lethal if ingested in large quantities.
This is how I chorinate my pool. Add salt to the water and through electrolyzing plates, the chorine is pulled out of the solution and pushed back into the pool. No chlorine to mess with.
Your a dumb-ass first of all pure chlorine gas is dark green. second even with a small amount of chlorine in the air will cause serious health problems. third the gas coming from the water is called HHO it's what happens when you take a H2O molecule and apply a force.
2. True but that will be a VERY small amount between 30 and 60 parts per million will kill you under that is irritant and trust me that's a VERY little gas.
3. There is such a thing as HHO but it's not 1 gas it's 2 different gasses, it's a combination of 2 parts of hydrogen gas and 1 part Oxygen gas. It's seperated water molecules by electrolysis, water vapor is less water molecules per area bu't it's still whole water molecules. 9 volts is enaugh for electrolysis but only for very short
@silageman minus hydrogen is an atomic chemical and its combustion output far outweighs ANY other flameable fuel on this planet..
BMW Hydrogen 7 is a car with an internal combustion engine no different to gasoline powerered... its runs on hydrogen.. 0 emmisions, 0 cost of fuel minus the 180 watts per 90 litres to make it. 1000 watts here is 13 cents, gasoline is $4 a gallon here.,..do the math :-)
@DaedricLavaWhiskey pure filtered water will not conduct electricity because there is no minerals in it but if you take tap water then yess that will conduct because there is minerals in it. i did an experiment in chemistry where i took a frog and put it in a bucket of pure water(you buy it at walmart) and dropped an electrical cord in it and the frog lived , then i poured salt in and it turned into one crispy critter.
A friend of mine did an experiment with Hydrogen for the science fair. He said the gas coming off the positive leed was oxygen because what was happening was the water molecules were being separated. The clorine would have to be coming from the salt which wouldn't make sense. I'm just curious if anyone can confirm that the other gas is Oxygen.
weeee, it worked, that was the only way that has actually worke for me :D, but my water turned into green, and some wierd green stuff came on top of water, not brown :/ thx for the vid :)
@htirah100 H2O H = hydrogen O2 = oxygen, if ----ALL---- the dydrogen goes from water, probably the left gas (oxygen) will go with it, and turn back into water straight away, or as he did, u capture the hydrogen, there wont stay anything, the oxygen turns into gas, and as any gas, goes away :) (i guess xD)
@htirah100 not all of the hydrogen goes some is left behind although the water will lose its mass slightly because of the gas diffusing into the air :)
@coilsinamotor Actually, in this case you do get chlorine gas (Cl2) at the positive lead rather than oxygen gas (O2). It comes from the chlorine atoms in the salt (NaCl) that I mixed in. The leftover oxygen atoms from H2O end up binding to the iron in the metal battery lead.
Still incomplete correction. The chlorine gas comes from oxidation of chloride ions formed by disociation of NaCl in water. There are no chlorine atoms in NaCl. Neither in solid NaCl nor in solution.
Yes, but not pure. NaOH solution. Since you also have chlorine dissolved, this when reacting with water could give HCl and HClO. Obviously HCl and HClO cannot survive in so strong alkaline solution so finally you have Cl- ions and ClO- ions. The latest is known as hypochlorite. Overall you have a 'soup" containing Na+ ions, OH- ions, ClO- ions and little Cl2 still present at equilibrium. If you wish to have no chlorine involved just use another salt e.g. Na2SO4, NaNO3 or acid H2SO4.
@gravityandlevity I agree, never use salt as an electrolyte, the germans used clorine gas to exterminate the jews :-\
Clorine is lethal to us. I doubt this is putting out more clorine the hydrogen but it should be done outside or with very good ventilation :-\ use LYE... its the best electrolyte, just dont get it on you it burns
@gravityandlevity Also wrong. It'll probably end up in the battery lead as the metal hydroxide, probably proceeding through the metal chloride forming and the chloride being displaced.
If you do it with an inert electrode, you'll get NaOH in solution and chlorine gas because it can't react with the electrode. If the anode and cathode aren't in separate compartments, however, the chlorine will dissolve in the NaOH and form NaClO, bleach, and reforming the NaCl.
@gravityandlevity So if you take the chlorine and hydrogen out of salt and water, you have sodium and oxygen left (sodium oxide). Will adding the hydrogen back to it react the same way that sodium and water would?
Respond to this video... Could it be that the Cl reacts with the Iron of the battery forming FeCl3? It is reddish brown and highly water soluble. (even deliquescent). Rust would form a suspension or a precipitate
@coilsinamotor You only get oxygen if 2 things are true: no other ions in the solution are more easily reduced and the positive electrode does not become part of the reaction. In this case, the chlorine is more easily reduced than oxygen so chlorine is primarily produced at the + terminal. Since O2 and Cl2 are pretty close in voltage req. to reduce, some O2 *is* produced, forming a rusty battery terminal. Use copper wires in salt water and NO gas is produced at the +, It all reacts w/ the copper
@coilsinamotor + chlorine from the salt... but your right, with KOH or even baking soda you Just get 2 parts Hydrogen and the 1 part oxygen on the other electrode
@thepit28 depends on the water, pure filtered water will not conduct electricity because there is no minerals in it but if you take tap water then yes that will conduct because there is minerals in it. i did an experiment in chemistry where i took a frog and put it in a bucket of pure water(you buy it at walmart) and dropped an electrical cord in it and the frog lived , then i poured salt in and it turned into one crispy critter.
dude, licking your bathroom floor is more toxic than the chlorine from this experiment. You'd have to inhale a lot of chlorine to be killed or severly injured. (think 50v into molten salt for about 2 seconds, all the gas is inhaled) Besides, first you'd vomit, then go through symptoms of dehydration (although you are not dehydrated) and then the seigures hit. You die after that point. If you feel sick or light headed, go sniff a little bleach, it'll react with it and flush out your urine. :)
Probably, but I bet you wouldn't see much. You'd need a much bigger battery to produce the amount of hydrogen required to make a real, continuous fireball.
@gravityandlevity at my school 3 seniors made a device that uses that principle but with much more electricity and they hooked it up to their trucks and it increases their gas milage by 7 to 12 mpg... boeing actually had them come and do a presentation of their project ... one of them now works at boeing.
That's actually a bit clever just throwing the battery in there.
EmperorOfMars 4 days ago
is this powerful enough to blow up a baloon please respond as soon as possible
dparkhu1 1 week ago
This experiment is ... simply basic....simply likeable...simply brilliant!
empirestatebuilding1 1 week ago
Guys, you're overthinking this. You will only get hydrogen gas and oxygen gas. You would know if you got chlorine gas, because chlorine gas is naturally greenish. The salt is only added in to make sure that the water transmits a current since distilled water will carry very little current if no current at all. One also can't use a traditional reaction diagram to show what happens because the sodium and chlorine break apart into ions, not their normal selves. It happens to the best of us.
mylifeisnapless 1 week ago
No it does not become liquid oxygen because oxygen needs to be atleast to be -190 to become partially liquid
SuperJonirenicus 2 weeks ago
I have a question:
If you're removing the hydrogen gas from the water, doesn't the water then become liquid oxygen?
t3hrasterbator 2 weeks ago
This is awful.
shoottherunner8008 3 weeks ago
so i suppose that NaCl+H2O yields NaOH + H2+Cl2 through electrolysis so if you add aluminum 2Al+6NaOH yields 2Na3AlO3+3H so you can have a second reaction to make more hydrogen. But i think NaOH is highly corrosive so be careful.
vicislegit 3 weeks ago
thanks man subscribe like and comment
nigahigafan14771 1 month ago
anode will release Cl2
cathode will release H2
it really easy :)
syafiq930 1 month ago
hiiiiiilbiiiiily music... heeeialllbilleah!
GTHaroFITBMX 1 month ago
what about water of the sea ??? i think we dont need salt
inventormorocco 1 month ago
@inventormorocco
Similar problem because in seawater you already have NaCl. It is better to use tap water add little sulfuric acid and carry out electrolysis in such a way that it is not collected e.g. in the garage. Otherwise, if you ignite, you may blow out the whole garage or even house.
Chrispainta 1 month ago
I done something similar to this in my kitchen using a plastic sandwich bag, when I stuck the fire to it I blew nasty water all over the place :) My wife did not like it!! LOL
MrMark4423 2 months ago
lol that second comment, should also says chlorine gas is poisons for people who dont know
turtlewax3585 2 months ago
How'd you get pure water out of your kitchen sink?
dawgsnsuch 2 months ago
@teachermama4
No,water only has one atom of oxygen in the molecule. I humans need two atoms of oxygen.
At least that's my understanding of it :)
Kingisland32 2 months ago
is there an economical way to do this? two thirds of the world's surface is water, which is two parts a potent fuel, and one part the air we need to survive! I wondered if it was possible to separate those elements- thx for this enlightenment!
RoqueFortStu 2 months ago
does that mean you can breath in the water
teachermama4 2 months ago
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CMLaneLV 3 months ago
nerds alert!
damianr194 3 months ago
Can anyone explain me why the battery doesn't extremely heat up or explode , don't we have a shortcut here? I just see positive electricty and negative travelling through water and getting on contact with eachother without any "user" like a light.. Anyone who can explain to me why there is(n't) a shortcut?
CrEaTiVePyroScience 3 months ago
it did not work :( - oh well prop cause i used a double A :L - anyway nice upload mate :D
joshua99999999 3 months ago
YAY it works ......
PrvaGitara1 3 months ago
Terrible way to create hydrogen it's inneficiënt becouse it also creates a third component called "sodium hydroxide" along with the chlorine and hydrogen. Use baking soda in your water instead to not create a toxic gas like chlorine. Also when doing this kind of electrolysis chlorine is always trying to re-bind with the 2 other elements, not effective at all for creating hydrogen gas. DON"T USE THIS METHOD!
rdekraker 4 months ago
@rdekraker I am trying to find out how to make a hydroxide drink as an antioxidant which has been described as a water molecule with one of the two hydrogen parts removed. Do you know how I could do this? Thanks!
xanadu1jw 1 month ago
@xanadu1jw I'm hoping youre sarcastic.
if youre serious than what youre referring to is something someone made up to scam people and get money out of them.
anti oxidant is something that slows down oxidation, some stuff they put in food articles to make them rot less fast for example.
In human use we call antioxidants "vitamins"... try having some of those.... and there are a lot of recepies for vitamin shakes out there XD you don't need to remove hydrogen from water to get those :P
rdekraker 1 month ago
@xanadu1jw
It's impossible to get a water molecule with one Hydrogen atom removed. It simply would not happen. The molecules wouldn't react.
When you react Hydrogen and Oxygen, you can only get H2O or H2O2. That's water or hydrogen peroxide. Peroxide is lethal if ingested in large quantities.
nashertheatheist 4 weeks ago
How much salt?
susannekh3568 4 months ago
The only dummAss is calling. People dummAss
sgwbyyy 4 months ago
i want more hydrogen! maybe mains 120V?
powermaks 4 months ago
ouai bon c'est ni + ni - q'une électrolyse...
boho3130 4 months ago
This is how I chorinate my pool. Add salt to the water and through electrolyzing plates, the chorine is pulled out of the solution and pushed back into the pool. No chlorine to mess with.
saxmanchiro 4 months ago
this will work but it will work better if you put baking soda in it baking soda is a better conductor so it should work better
TheLinwoodboy 5 months ago
Your a dumb-ass first of all pure chlorine gas is dark green. second even with a small amount of chlorine in the air will cause serious health problems. third the gas coming from the water is called HHO it's what happens when you take a H2O molecule and apply a force.
siciliancara 5 months ago
@siciliancara 1.Pure Chlorine is yellowish-green.
2. A small amount is an irritant but wont kill you
3. I don't think there is any such thing as HHO. If so, the gas would simply be vapourized water, which is impossible with a 9-volt
lordanjan1 4 months ago
@lordanjan1 1. Pure Chlorine is bright green as a gas and is a dull green almost yellow as a liquid.
2. If it was chlorine coming of that electrode that would be enough to kill you.
3. No it would not become vapor because there is no energy. you need a energy to move elements from form to form. You need to go back to school.
siciliancara 4 months ago
1. True
2. True but that will be a VERY small amount between 30 and 60 parts per million will kill you under that is irritant and trust me that's a VERY little gas.
3. There is such a thing as HHO but it's not 1 gas it's 2 different gasses, it's a combination of 2 parts of hydrogen gas and 1 part Oxygen gas. It's seperated water molecules by electrolysis, water vapor is less water molecules per area bu't it's still whole water molecules. 9 volts is enaugh for electrolysis but only for very short
rdekraker 4 months ago
the power gone in from battery far outways potential energy from hydrogen
silageman 8 months ago
@silageman minus hydrogen is an atomic chemical and its combustion output far outweighs ANY other flameable fuel on this planet..
BMW Hydrogen 7 is a car with an internal combustion engine no different to gasoline powerered... its runs on hydrogen.. 0 emmisions, 0 cost of fuel minus the 180 watts per 90 litres to make it. 1000 watts here is 13 cents, gasoline is $4 a gallon here.,..do the math :-)
Me102288 7 months ago
a very simple, yet clever video. well done!
empirestatebuilding1 8 months ago
This is a very clever use of electrolysis , but
hellow771 8 months ago
my battery gets pretty hot
does it explode or something like this :D
MaxikingNimero 9 months ago
@brandon9966 and sodium not "table salt"
thecitywalls 9 months ago
nice dude but i thought hydrogen was an explosive gas :\
pira1300 9 months ago
Can you use a smaller battery?
SandersT09 10 months ago
just put the battery into the hcl
marko03033 10 months ago
"pure water doesnt conduct electricity" yeah totally dump some water in your electrical outlet and say that again
DaedricLavaWhiskey 1 year ago
@DaedricLavaWhiskey pure filtered water will not conduct electricity because there is no minerals in it but if you take tap water then yess that will conduct because there is minerals in it. i did an experiment in chemistry where i took a frog and put it in a bucket of pure water(you buy it at walmart) and dropped an electrical cord in it and the frog lived , then i poured salt in and it turned into one crispy critter.
jrcobb1994 1 year ago
@DaedricLavaWhiskey
He's right, completely pure water will not conduct electricity between positive and negative ends.
TOSViolator 11 months ago
A friend of mine did an experiment with Hydrogen for the science fair. He said the gas coming off the positive leed was oxygen because what was happening was the water molecules were being separated. The clorine would have to be coming from the salt which wouldn't make sense. I'm just curious if anyone can confirm that the other gas is Oxygen.
penguinandhamster 1 year ago
waste of a 9v if u ask me
coolhand2323mods 1 year ago
@coolhand2323mods : No one asked you. Its called a demonstration.
rizwanarasheed 1 year ago
can you just put another cup on top of the cup and seal it off so the top cup will fill?
HotPotatoProduction 1 year ago
if you were getting clorine gas you will be dead by now plus without safety and not in a fumehood
MrBeefguy 1 year ago
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@MrBeefguy no because there would not be enough formed..............
canyoufeeldapainyet2 1 year ago
stick a car battery in there
MrCircuitBoy 1 year ago 2
weeee, it worked, that was the only way that has actually worke for me :D, but my water turned into green, and some wierd green stuff came on top of water, not brown :/ thx for the vid :)
megvagyimmartizenyol 1 year ago
if the hydrogen is gone from the water..what is left?
htirah100 1 year ago
@htirah100 H2O H = hydrogen O2 = oxygen, if ----ALL---- the dydrogen goes from water, probably the left gas (oxygen) will go with it, and turn back into water straight away, or as he did, u capture the hydrogen, there wont stay anything, the oxygen turns into gas, and as any gas, goes away :) (i guess xD)
megvagyimmartizenyol 1 year ago
@htirah100 not all of the hydrogen goes some is left behind although the water will lose its mass slightly because of the gas diffusing into the air :)
canyoufeeldapainyet2 1 year ago
its actuall not clorine its O2 thats why the chemical compition of water is H2O there are two hydrogen for one oxagen molucule intresting vid thought
coilsinamotor 1 year ago
@coilsinamotor Actually, in this case you do get chlorine gas (Cl2) at the positive lead rather than oxygen gas (O2). It comes from the chlorine atoms in the salt (NaCl) that I mixed in. The leftover oxygen atoms from H2O end up binding to the iron in the metal battery lead.
gravityandlevity 1 year ago 23
@gravityandlevity
Still incomplete correction. The chlorine gas comes from oxidation of chloride ions formed by disociation of NaCl in water. There are no chlorine atoms in NaCl. Neither in solid NaCl nor in solution.
Chrispainta 8 months ago 6
@Chrispainta so we will get NaOH
:)
syafiq930 1 month ago
@syafiq930
Yes, but not pure. NaOH solution. Since you also have chlorine dissolved, this when reacting with water could give HCl and HClO. Obviously HCl and HClO cannot survive in so strong alkaline solution so finally you have Cl- ions and ClO- ions. The latest is known as hypochlorite. Overall you have a 'soup" containing Na+ ions, OH- ions, ClO- ions and little Cl2 still present at equilibrium. If you wish to have no chlorine involved just use another salt e.g. Na2SO4, NaNO3 or acid H2SO4.
Chrispainta 1 month ago
@Chrispainta Wow ....you pretty cools huh
nice explanation :)
syafiq930 1 month ago
@gravityandlevity I agree, never use salt as an electrolyte, the germans used clorine gas to exterminate the jews :-\
Clorine is lethal to us. I doubt this is putting out more clorine the hydrogen but it should be done outside or with very good ventilation :-\ use LYE... its the best electrolyte, just dont get it on you it burns
Me102288 7 months ago
@gravityandlevity Also wrong. It'll probably end up in the battery lead as the metal hydroxide, probably proceeding through the metal chloride forming and the chloride being displaced.
If you do it with an inert electrode, you'll get NaOH in solution and chlorine gas because it can't react with the electrode. If the anode and cathode aren't in separate compartments, however, the chlorine will dissolve in the NaOH and form NaClO, bleach, and reforming the NaCl.
nathan7tube 7 months ago
@gravityandlevity So if you take the chlorine and hydrogen out of salt and water, you have sodium and oxygen left (sodium oxide). Will adding the hydrogen back to it react the same way that sodium and water would?
awesumness777 1 week ago
@gravityandlevity So what happens to the sodium?
awesumness777 1 week ago
@coilsinamotor Salt is NaCl. Its electrolysis causes the water to become a dilute NaOH solution and the Chlorine gas bubbles out at the anode.
lordanjan1 4 months ago
Respond to this video... Could it be that the Cl reacts with the Iron of the battery forming FeCl3? It is reddish brown and highly water soluble. (even deliquescent). Rust would form a suspension or a precipitate
lordanjan1 4 months ago
@coilsinamotor You only get oxygen if 2 things are true: no other ions in the solution are more easily reduced and the positive electrode does not become part of the reaction. In this case, the chlorine is more easily reduced than oxygen so chlorine is primarily produced at the + terminal. Since O2 and Cl2 are pretty close in voltage req. to reduce, some O2 *is* produced, forming a rusty battery terminal. Use copper wires in salt water and NO gas is produced at the +, It all reacts w/ the copper
pauls0416 3 months ago
@coilsinamotor + chlorine from the salt... but your right, with KOH or even baking soda you Just get 2 parts Hydrogen and the 1 part oxygen on the other electrode
Me102288 2 weeks ago
how will i put it in a balloon, want to try a experiment?
HenryO96 1 year ago
water does conduct eletrisity
when i do this i use 4 nine volts 1 takes to long
thepit28 1 year ago
@thepit28 depends on the water, pure filtered water will not conduct electricity because there is no minerals in it but if you take tap water then yes that will conduct because there is minerals in it. i did an experiment in chemistry where i took a frog and put it in a bucket of pure water(you buy it at walmart) and dropped an electrical cord in it and the frog lived , then i poured salt in and it turned into one crispy critter.
jrcobb1994 1 year ago
I've heard that the hydrogen comes out more pure if Sodium Bicarbonate is used instead of Sodium Chloride. Is this true, or not?
Hybzy 1 year ago
didn't work for me, probably because the salt I used didn't have iodine :(
Catcarp8 2 years ago
thanks a mill the video was great and very helpful
allexanderno 2 years ago
it wont work 4 me
farushin 2 years ago
how do you fill a ballon with it
farushin 2 years ago
did you know that the chlorine gass i higly toxic.. ?
zalvoz 2 years ago
dude, licking your bathroom floor is more toxic than the chlorine from this experiment. You'd have to inhale a lot of chlorine to be killed or severly injured. (think 50v into molten salt for about 2 seconds, all the gas is inhaled) Besides, first you'd vomit, then go through symptoms of dehydration (although you are not dehydrated) and then the seigures hit. You die after that point. If you feel sick or light headed, go sniff a little bleach, it'll react with it and flush out your urine. :)
freakin1random 2 years ago 2
would waffing bleach actually work
BoomBoomPopTarts 2 years ago
@freakin1random oh and create mustard gas to die by instead huh!
xanadu1jw 1 month ago
how long would it take to fill a baloon ? and how to do it?
haeschensk8er 2 years ago
can't you put the match on the water where the bubbles get out ?
o0JohnnyReb0o 2 years ago
Probably, but I bet you wouldn't see much. You'd need a much bigger battery to produce the amount of hydrogen required to make a real, continuous fireball.
gravityandlevity 2 years ago
@gravityandlevity at my school 3 seniors made a device that uses that principle but with much more electricity and they hooked it up to their trucks and it increases their gas milage by 7 to 12 mpg... boeing actually had them come and do a presentation of their project ... one of them now works at boeing.
midgetking101 1 year ago
@gravityandlevity dammit i cant understand smart talk :O
techtonikrandom21 5 months ago
@gravityandlevity ...or maybe collect the Hydrogen gas in a soap.
ssj7warrior 3 months ago
@gravityandlevity I see, so there wouldn't be smoke on the water, and fire in the sky?
RoqueFortStu 2 months ago
Wow! Amazing, thank you for sharing this valuable information.
nikomaster12 2 years ago