Ai weiwei ! Why don't you show your naked photos to the media!!! and youtubers, find the pictures online it called 一虎八奶图 ！ search them on Google picture !
@MArtinezNINux I am expected in - on behalf of all the state VICTIMS OF NORWAY - that he makes an sculpture in TRIBUTE TO THEM, as he got the Nobel Prize on their behalf...
Tone Elisabeth Larsen, flight attendant was terrorized by civil police BANDITS from Oslo police, for 4 hours; she was SO FRIGHTENED that she shit on the floor!!! And they were ROARING WITH LAUGHTER!!! - and THE NORWEGIAN PUDDLE PRESS?, yes, they wrote about her shit on the floor, NOT ABOUT THE BRUTAL POLICE VIOLENCE!!
The same happens in Norway too; the land that gave him the Nobel Prize; the commie China; the commie Norway; totally equal......just a little difference in execution of evilness,,,,,that's all!!!
Human Rights Detective Eddy Jacobsen has been pestered and harrased and tortured by the different Norwegian authorities, ever since he exposed a police murder in 1987. TAX OFFICE."You have not been here". After days of re-write declaration - and with Jolanta Sæther as a officer witness at the tax-office, the executive lied about this. Having failed to declare income for 4 years, a doctor's endorsement stated his illness.
THIS IS THE NORWAY THAT GAVE AI WEIWEI NOBEL PRIZE
He is a lucky man; in NORWAY, that gave him Nobel Prize, this would never happen.
Here is one example; Human Rights Detective Eddy Jacobsen (w w w eddy nu) hadn't written his declaration for five years because of state torture against him; then it was arranged to re-write those afterwards, that took several days to do at the TAX OFFICE - then; The TAX OFFICER LEADER SAID: No, he has never been here to do this, so we must put extra TAX CHARGE ON HIM!!
And I do not think he should use this history to blame the current government. Although I do not agree with many things the government has done, you do need to acknowledge the change they have brought to China. In my opinion, Ai Weiwei is a fake artist who has no talent and no his own thoughts. What he does is simply blaming the government and then use it as an excuse to ask financial support from western.
He is simply a poor laughable clown who just against everything the Communist government has done. His father was a great man as he said in the interview, I as a chinese, has read many articles from his father Ai Qing, and I have great respect to his father, like many other chinese people. So what he said in the program is not 100% true. His family has trully suffered a lot during the Culture Revolution, but the new government after that has admit the great mistakes they have made.
Ai Weiwei epitomises everything that is worst about popular and talantless trash culture. There is nothing to admire about this greedy self publicist.
I find it disgusting how the Western elite only see human rights abuse, governmental abuse, and mass oppression in China and other countries they dislike. I even think the attitude towards China which makes our things is reflected in the way we treat our underclass,particularly those who do manual labor for low pay. It's way we look down on those who are engaged in physical hard labor and therefore aren't educated or refined and also have much different problems than us that bothers me so much.
Weiwei is a punk with little talent except for getting himself mounds of publicity from the NY cocktail party set. Destroying ancient art and giving the finger to government buildings take no talent. If so, I want an agent now.
in china fascists and clerical child molester from the vatican face the truncheon this is the scum the west wants to be "free " and "in office" in order to increase thier own power..(by the way the west gives a FUCK about human rights..illegal iraq war, plutonium ammunition, guantanamo bay ect ect)..if i look into ai weiweis face it seems he getting more and more aware of the wests targets.LONG LIVE CHINA !! :D and keep german fascism out of america !! ;)) usa and china kicked the japanese nazis
@05giacomo The most important point: Keep the German Nazis out of America. Germans hate the US like hell because every time the US entered war Germany almost immediately went down the drain. Its astonishing to see how openly German snitchers are operating in the US, search YT for: Woman Yells Heil Hitler...and watch this woman being supported by others placing themselves next to her. Also see: White racist get pounded at the Huntington Beach pier.A horde of young guys,1 of German origin,move in.
Personally I don't think destroying the pottery is he best way to stand up against the regime because it is too easily misinterpreted. But my respect for Ai's courage has not changed.
Lets put things in context;
Ai Weiwei dropped a pot as part of his form of art.
The CCP regime has lied to, tortured, brainwashed, intimidated, exploited and murdered millions of its people for 62 years. Those who have not experienced this defend the CCP because they are blocked from seeing the truth.
Brave man. The whole world knows that it was his views on the regime, not his tax evasion- that lead to his detention.The 'economic crimes' for which he was detained were an excuse for the regime to detain him. But we should not forget the other 1,425+ brave Chinese dissidents currently incarcerated for no other 'crime' than voicing their views. They are not violent criminals, not terrorists, not drug dealers. In my opinion they are Chinese patriots. One day this evil CCP regime will fall.
Ai Weiwei is such a hero. Because of him I changed my mind about Chinese. I hope more and more Chinese is going to stand up for their basic rights! Be brave and challange then change the goverment! Free China - free Tibet - free Taiwan
China is a pure country without any politian issues, and people enjoy this kind of life a lot, but this kind of activist are polluting the country, fucck off
You are an incredibly ignorant person. I pity you and wish I could inform you but thats difficult online. Maybe you are young and therefore know no better but consider this. The Communist Party has ruled China for 62 years with their brutal human rights abuses. Do you know about the Great Firewall? Try typing certain FACTS into Baidu; but you will not see details on these facts bcause it is CENSORED-I urge you to at least look up the meaning of that word.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 thank you, I am ignorant but also young, therefore I know much more things than you a so smart and old sir. Chinese communist made China be the 2nd biggest economy in the world, feeding one fifth people of the world, helping poorer countries to be richer and stronger, where is war, where is no China. The great firewall is nothing for Chinese, because 70% of Chinese don't have private computer, even internet, what they care about is how to break away poverty, disease.
By talking about 'purity' you also sound like a fascist. Are you really so stupid or are you employed by the CCP to spread their lies? 'Without any political issues' Are you trying to make a bad joke?
China is a great country with an ancient history. But the pollution you talk of is not from the brave patriotic dissidents. It is from the brutal one-party regime that has lied to its own people for decades.
You do frustrate me but I know you cannot help your ignorance
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 If activists really want to do something to help Chinese people, I have a good idea, they could go to the poor areas of China to be a volunteering teacher, teaching the children who cannot go to school more useful knowledge. but I don't think they can afford it, because they can only take shower one time a month, because water is quite limited at those areas, they can only work at daytime, because there is no electricity,
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 they cannot eat very full to be a fat guy like Ai weiwei, because there are not enough food, especially meat. but now what they really want to do is just show off, did you watch the movie "wag the dog", I hope you could watch it from internet, then you will know what is politician show, facing to politician, nothing is true, and no one knows what is real.
@igrung Actually, a lot of modern Chinese have access to more calories, especially with the government's business partnerships with American fast food franchises.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 what I talked about is the reality of what Chinese people really want, but what you talked about is the politician things. could you pls look at yourself, dirty words cannot help China and you. about the pollution, could you tell me which country is without pollution now? 120 years ago, there was no any pollution in China, but parts of China were colonized by other countries for decades of years, tremendous people were dead because of the wars happened in China.
@igrung Deflecting accountability by dredging up ghosts from the past will not make the pollution in China decrease by any margin, nor will it make the government any less corrupt.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 now China is much stronger than before, so some hypercritics stand out and blame a lot to China. I think what they want to do is just show off, if they didn't have money, and they were not so bored, they would not have done this.
@igrung This has nothing to do with China being "strong." In fact, what this seems to be proving is the exact opposite. In stifling the expression of artists and peaceful activists, they only prove how fragile and insecure they are. A healthy regime does not do this. Plus, when you consider the ecological consequences of China's economic and industrial tunnel-blindness, they're shooting themselves in the foot.
@igrung As for the part about "hypercriticals," many of the people in the West who are against the unlawful imprisonment of Ai Wei Wei are also against the unlawful actions of their own governments as well. Implying that they don't is simply a straw man argument.
The expression ways of Chinese art is completely different with other country's, for Ai weiwei, he is not a Chinese artist, but he is Chinese and he is a American or other country's artist.
The expression ways of Chinese art is completely different with other country's, for Ai weiwei, he is not a Chinese artist, but he is Chinese and he is a American or other country's artist.
Thats just the point though; you are brainwashed and therefore cannot think for yourself. It is ironic that the mighty Chinese regime is so terrified of one artist. Ask yourself why. Those people who speak out against the CCP are 10x braver than those who blindly make excuses for it. It is easy to follow the crowd. You are choosing the cowards path. One day China will be free from this evil regime and then hopefully you and millions of others will learn the truth.
Also be careful not to defend the CCP too much... those words may haunt you if you ever find that you are in a situation that you want to question heir actions.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 i think majority of people don't understand his "art". It does not make me a CCP troll. Go to hong kong apple action news, the top comment in a ai wei wei video(his naked art piece with other naked women.) is ,"I really don't understand this type of art." That's coming from the most westernized part of China, hong kong. that being said, nobody understands the situtation in china , Julian Assange was imprisoned too for leaking US state secret. US is better at spinning things.
@Lottechoco A lot of people don't understand a lot of art. That's something that most art has in common. Its sources and inspirations are complicated, and most consumer culture, Western and otherwise, is very simplistic, and a lot of people are not educated about art, and so no matter which artist you're talking about, there are always going to be a lot of people who just don't "get it." This doesn't mean it isn't art.
@Lottechoco To the contrary. Art that is too simplistic and easy to digest is suspect, and risks crossing the line from "art" into "entertainment" or "propaganda." Again, this has nothing to do with the U.S, and your repeated attempts to bring up the U.S. are clearly a ploy to deflect accountability.
@Lottechoco The goal of any artist is to present his medium to an audience who will appreciate it. Those who appreciate art, though not a very wide segment of the population, are not concentrated in any one country, social stratum or ethnic group, humans are individuals, there is an equal scattering of all kinds of people all over the world.
Is this really an effective way to facilitate change? If he is an artist, and if he really cares about the people in China, why didn't he say "fuck you chinese communist party"? Why such hatred for the whole beautiful civilisation... as confirmed by his disgusting destruction of priceless artifacts from 400BC???? The guy behaves like a 13 year old.
@cgseggal He doesn't hate his "beautiful civilization." He hates the government that's currently oppressing its people. Is it wrong to sacrifice one thousand year old artifact to call attention to the wrongs of a government that lets millions die TODAY? Try living his life and being as brave and compassionate as him before you call him a 13 year old. What would you suggest be a more effective way to facilitate change?
In the last 20 years close to 500 million Chinese citizens have been lifted out of poverty. Speak to them. They don't hate the government that has transformed their lives.
An economic superpower must also allow for more human liberty. Extreme political oppression and economic progress is incompatible.
You're right that many Chinese lives have improved. But the reason many don't hate the gov't that has transformed their lives is because nearly all of them are oblivious to the massacres committed by the gov't in 1989 due to extreme censorship. Show them a picture of the Tank man and it won't even trigger a thing. They can't hate what they don't know.
The PRC isn't perfect, but it is a bastion of human rights when compared to the US and its allies. The PRC doesn't launch illegal invasions of foreign countries, steal their resources and slaughter their citizens.
i totally agree that the U.S. commits countless human rights violations. I just wouldn't compare the PRC with the U.S. government. Slaughtering people is wrong period--no matter which country they belong to.
woah woah woah. i never said the Chinese PEOPLE are ignorant. If anything, I'm more biased, as I'm Chinese. I'm aware that there are plenty of people who are informed of their government's wrongs and are politically active and vocal, even while it endangers their lives.
It's their governmental system that needs work, just as the U.S.'s needs work.
You said the Chinese people "can't hate what they don't know." My experince is that Chinese people understand the failures of the CCP very well. Have you lived in China? It is hard to imagine that you could have lived there and not have been exposed to the lively public debate between ordinary people.
I'm aware of what I said. "What they don't know" referred to the crimes committed by the PRC to Chinese citizens that have since been censored from the general populace's information pool, and have indeed been made impossible to know.
If you felt that my words painted the Chinese as ignorant, than perhaps I was not careful enough with my words, because I do not hold that view at all. Plain ignorance differs from not knowing certain things due to lack of a particular resource.
Also, to answer your question--No, I have never lived in China. But I have family members who have been dispossessed of everything and wrongfully jailed because of the government. Methinks that if such a thing were to happen to you on a personal level, you would not be so supportive of the PRC. That is all.
Whilst I'm very supportive of the PRC, I am not blind to its shortcomings and the type of injustices that you describe can not be justified. Socialist countries are routinely subjected to interference by the US and its allies aimed at destabilising their societies. This doesn't justify the type of injustice that you describe, but it does help explain why it occurs.
@cgseggal If it weren't effective, the Chinese government wouldn't be cracking down on him, would they. Autocratic regimes seldom waste their resources cracking down on ineffective weirdos. They focus their energies on those who frighten them.
@cgseggal Well, destroying the pottery was crossing the line, I totally agree. but hey, you can't say that he didn't get his point across: that the communist party has so totally royally f*cked over chinese civilization, we might as well just do away with what little of it is left.
This is pure propaganda. At a time when the US is more draconian and repressive than ever before, when more civil liberties have been curtailed than ever before, US media starts pointing fingers at isolated insidents of repression in other countries. It's like a schoolyard bully pointing to a another incident in a different playground in a different school in an attempt to justify his own sick behaviour.
I am not trying to defend the Chinese government! I am pointing out the reasons why Weiwei's statements and methods are despicable and I am pointing to the incredible bias and dishonesty of CNN. I am showing that a complex and contradictory matter has been simplfied by CNN to try to drum up antichina sentiment. The video here is insulting.
@cuttlefishgem Really? Because it seems pretty obvious, what with his taking the CCP's trumped up charges against Ai Wiewei as gospel fact, then using them as a basis for implying that he was some unsavory criminal element.
@cuttlefishgem Bob Dylan is not a "respectable critic or activist." He's a sell-out. He cares only about money now. He made a lot of good music in the 60s and 70s, and had some very pertinent things to say then, but he sold those ideals when he started selling his songs and image to SUV commercials a few years ago, and this only completes the cycle. I even saw an interview where he himself claimed that the creative energy he felt in the 60s and 70s was long dead.
this is sad ai weiwei gets detained for atleast 44 days maybe longer and everyone else wants to fight about government. know what we should be doing talking about how to help ai weiwei and others like him trying to get more human rights because as best i as i can ai weiwei loves china he just doesn't like that nobody has the right to be free. this man is willing to be beaten for his beliefs can any of you on this page say that? would you risk your life for your beliefs? free ai weiwei.
@cuttlefishgem That all well and good. But please let me know what makes wei wei so unrespectable.(forgive my spelling) Im sure Dylan distanced himself from wei wei because he recently played in china, if you come to china and even if you are Bob Dylan you have to tow the line and he did by having his set list approved by the gov he was not allowed to play songs that could be construed as protest songs(please name the other social critics)
@KingMinosxxvi Bob Dylan is nothing but a sellout. He shelved his beliefs and convictions to play in China because he loves money and attention. It's really a great disappointment, he was so brilliant a few decades ago, but that's gone now.
your analogy is not sound. He is talking about his own culture not someone elses... secondly he obviously did not steal the vase ...if some one bought a precious family artifiact from me he has every right to smash it should he please. I knew a girl who told me if you boil water it makes it less clean she said my disagreement on this point was a question of culture, this person was a university grad...wei wei piece is ment to provoke thought about th kind of justifying inacuracy as cultur
@KingMinosxxvi He betrayed his own culture very long ago when he left his motherland and bummed around New York for twenty years. Then he was picked up by the US artworld and probably the CIA as the perfect antichina hate bomb. Just like the CIA used art in the 50's and 60's as anti USSR propaganda. Do your research.
@cgseggal Ah, so leaving China is "betraying one's culture?" Maybe you can tell that to the millions of Chinese who have made a new life in this country, who still cling fiercely to their culture. The modern Chinese government is not "Chinese culture," they're just a group of corrupt men using the excuse of culture as a shield against criticism. CIA? Now you're getting hilariously paranoid.
@yerk3 Most Chinese who leave harbour no hatred towards their motherland. They may be concerned for change. They may be happy to have found a better life for themselves, but they don't put up youtube videos that sa fuck you motherland and destroy priceless chinese cultural artifacts. Most Chinese seek respectable ways of creating change in their home country. I am not trying to condone or support Chinese government. I am saying Weiwei is just as bad. He is a reactionary adolescent-minded twit
@cgseggal Neither does Ai Weiwei. The officials who rule China are not "the motherland," they are a group of mortal, corruptible, and highly corrupt, men. Any government that accuses those who disagree with it of "betraying the (motherland/fatherland/homeland/patria/whatever") is using a ploy to deflect criticism. I've seen my own government do it under the previous administration, and I've seen other governments do it as well, at neither point is it a valid argument, it is always a ploy.
@yerk3 I agree with you completely. But Ai Weiwei didn't say "fuck you chinese communist party" He said fuck you motherland. Then he destroyed priceless cultural treasures. That is childish and counterproductive stupidity. If he was a great artist he would know how to communicate effectively in his own art expressions.
@cgseggal The exhibit you're talking about says "fuck YOUR motherland," not "fuck YOU motherland," and it says it in several different languages, including English. This is a complicated statement that is not about any one country, but all of them, about how blind patriotism and nationalism are fucked no matter where you are.
@yerk3 I am not arguing that China does not need reform. I am arguing that Weiwei is an inappropriate and ineffective point of focus because of his destructiveness, that CNN presents an incredibly biased and skewed hypocritical representation of weiwei and the issues at hand which only serves to make things worse; and that the US is AS repressive and odious a regime, albeit corporate and therefore more subtle (and deceptive) in its curtailing of freedoms.
If you destroy and vandalise priceless ancient artifactsyou should be stopped silenced and put in jail! I am astonished at the blind support this puppet receives. I am astonished at the way he is taken seriously at all. Wake up people. He is being used to stir up anti china sentiment. Why do the americans have this desperate need for an evil other? This is Western social and psychological sickness on display.
@cgseggal oh sure, being beaten to the point that needed a surgery by police and hiding him somewhere (he might be killed already) is a perfectly fair punishment for someone who "vandalizes priceless ancient artifacts" right? you're an absolutely idiot..
@SoapySoul@SoapySoul If we knew the whole story we would be able to comment with some validity. But we don't (thanks to reporting like this by CNN) and Weiwei's track record makes him untrustworthy in my opinion.
@SoapySoul It is your hatred and anger that makes you sick. Find a better way of creating change and reform in China than supporting a hateful destructive mother****er
@cgseggal I assure you he is not an american invention. He is a concerned chinese citizen and artist whose worksshop was tore down a few years because the chinese government did not like the art he was making. Hes not a puppet. American artist make art questioning there government as well. There is so much money and so much profitble self deceptiong that obviously goes on in chinese government that wei scares people who want to protect there position enough to silence him.Chomsky is a free man
@KingMinosxxvi His workshop was torn down because it was built without the proper procedures and in contravention of Chinese law. If an American artist destroyed a piece of the statue of liberty in the name of art and built an illegal workshop I don't think he/she would get very far in his/her mission to change America. There is so much money and so much profitble self deceptiong that obviously goes on in US govt that wei ssupports people who want to protect there position enough to free him
@cgseggal Building codes? Oh, now the Chinese government cares about building codes? Too bad they didn't care when those schools were being built in Sichuan, that disintegrated during the earthquake and killed all of those children. Maybe Ai Weiwei should have built his studio 10 years earlier, then maybe some of those kids would still be alive. Thanks for proving that the Chinese government is completely blind to irony.
@yerk3 I think your reaction is coloured by unconscious resentment against US construction practises: The twin towers were supposedly built to withstand the impact of far heavier planes than the ones that demolished them in 2001. Yet they crumbled. Weiwei (or the minds that back and finance him) is/are shrewd. Using substandard construction practices and all the awareness thereof after 9 11 to divert attention from US culpability and totalitarian tendencies onto China. Pure scapegoating tactic.
@cgseggal Now you're just talking out of your ass. But I'm not especially surprised at that. Grasping at straws as if your life depended on it is kind of your modus operandi.
@cgseggal The twin towers fell because two massive planes, filled with enough jet fuel to carry them across a continent, slammed into them at over 100 miles an hour. The towers were not "designed to withstand the impact of far heavier planes." You've been reading too much Troofer conspiracy theories. Chances are, I could count on one hand the number of buildings in the world that could withstand the impact of a fully loaded Boeing 747 flying at full speed with a full tank of fuel.
@cgseggal The rest of your post is more garbled, baseless conspiracy theories, and justify no response, except, perhaps, what brand of aluminum foil do you make your hats out of?
@cgseggal Oh, and the Chinese government really cares about cultural artifacts too. Especially the ones they destroy for far less lofty reasons. Dipping an ancient pot in paint for the sake of art is so much more destructive than bulldozing a monastery in order to keep an ethnic minority in line. Once again, you aren't doing a very good job of defending the Chinese government. You're only proving that they are either massively hypocritical or utter morons. Maybe it's both!
@yerk3 No one said the chinese government cares about priceless artifacts. But Ai Weiwei most certainly does not, yet he calls himself an artist. By stooping to the same level as those he hates, he loses all credibility. I am not trying to defend Chinese government. I am trying to point attention to why Weiwei is a useless instrument in the struggle for change.
@cgseggal and yet noam chomsky is not in prison....he is an interntionally renowned artist im sure there are lots of ways in which he could get some cash....the statue of liberyt is not for sale is it.
are you seriously trying to say that people who descent getting silenced is not a huge issue in the prc...Seriously? Do you think people whom are horribly affected by gross enviromental lapses in the prc for instance and try to say something arnt snapped up without anybody being the wiser
@KingMinosxxvi Wei Wei may indeed be the wrong point of focus but negative data about what actually goes on in china is very hard to come by, and there is a reason for that. There is plenty in the international media about economic miracle in the PRC as well. I find it hard to believe the sitiuation is the same in the U.S....I assure it is not the same where im from..Canada. There are huge needs to change in china and artists like this man are really quite important. Dont compare that change to
@cgseggal The only reason anybody knows about him is precisely because he is a famous artist. And the CIA didnt use fine art as anti ussr propaganda. Jackson pollock that irrational anti-communist...please give an example of this reasearch...and in fact many us artists and public figures fought against communist black listing publicly something as proved by wei wei cant happen in china The fact you think he betrayed his country simply by leaving proves you are enormously biased.
@cgseggal oh really ? my sister lives in china she is sick of watching chinese fake news and she is tired of it's internet connection which does not allow her to post comments on youtube/facebook any other site ... she simply cant share anything to anyone ... chinese communist idiots a blocking everything! who is doing the propaganda ? the americans right or wrong can share their opinions and blame their government! A Chinese can't ! so stop pretending anything !
@SoapySoul The other day my brother had his laptop stolen by american security police at the border. He lost all his personal intimate belongings and information. He is sick of it.
@cgseggal stolen ! ha my sister wish she could throw the laptop away .. she cant share anything with anyone on internet anyway as long as she's in china... and stop acting like everything is ok in your country! I say video footage with students being killed by tanks in the center of Beijing !
@SoapySoul I agree with you that is very bad that she can't access information or express her views, but we are talking about the video above and what is the best way to make change happen. Ai Weiwei and CNN are not helping anybody. They are increasing their wealth. Weiwei bummed around in america most of his adult life until he was made into an antichina hate machine by the americans. There is a better way than this.
If China wish to progress then they need a man like Ai Weiwei, who is re owned for building the bird nest, if you detain a free Idealist, How can your country progress? Without these people and their Ideas, Your country will always going to be a second rated country, and will never become a super power.
@Hmonks Actually his role in the design of the birdsnest was minimal. He had hardly anything to do with the design which was in the hands of Swiss architects. His involvement has been blown out of proportion hugely. A free idealist does not destroy priceless treasures and put up youtube videos that say fuck you motherland.
@Zencba I mean no offense by asking this, but where did you get that idea from? I googled "ai weiwei milk poisoning" and found nothing. In fact, I've read that the milk poisoning killed 3 young children. One of Ai's most well known works is a huge 3D mural made of children's backpacks to bring awareness of Chinese government's lack of action in the aftermath of an earthquake that destroyed dozens of schools and killed several small children. Why would he do something to harm kids?
@Zencba Your kidding right?We dont need to "make" China look bad.China does very well in looking bad on their own.They were terrible in 2008 during the Olympics.Crushing and silencing dissent will always fail and China is infamous for this.China doesnt deserve the praise it gets especially on the economy.They are now some hybrid of communism/capitalist totalitarian state now.
No YOU'RE kidding right?We dont need to "make" the US look bad. The US does very well in looking bad on their own.They were terrible throughout 2001 to 2011. Crushing and silencing dissent will always fail and the US is infamous for this.America doesnt deserve the praise it gets especially on the economy.They are now some hybrid of capitalist/totalitarian state now.
@KawaiiHunters Looks like China produces better artists than America. Where are the artists doing similar work, to chronicle the US's lack of action in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina? Or the artists making work to draw attention to the way Bradley Manning has been treated... Oh wait, there are a couple protesting but they don't seem to get quite the same attention by the US media that Ai Weiwei gets. Funny that.
depending on what city your in. you get a sense of the "subtlety" chinese suppression which is not subtle at all. people will eventually see around the corner. The inability to speak up in china is not the biggest problem a bigger problem is the inability to think and that will change.
There is also a n argument that the majority of chinese people arent ready for totatly open imformation which is not that a huge stretch
@KingMinosxxvi depending on what city your in. you get a sense of the "subtlety" American suppression which is not subtle at all. people will eventually see around the corner. The inability to speak up in Am
Ai weiwei ! Why don't you show your naked photos to the media!!! and youtubers, find the pictures online it called 一虎八奶图 ！ search them on Google picture !
honeypauline 4 days ago
he doesnt seem as much of an artist as he is an activist
MArtinezNINux 2 months ago
@MArtinezNINux I am expected in - on behalf of all the state VICTIMS OF NORWAY - that he makes an sculpture in TRIBUTE TO THEM, as he got the Nobel Prize on their behalf...
Tone Elisabeth Larsen, flight attendant was terrorized by civil police BANDITS from Oslo police, for 4 hours; she was SO FRIGHTENED that she shit on the floor!!! And they were ROARING WITH LAUGHTER!!! - and THE NORWEGIAN PUDDLE PRESS?, yes, they wrote about her shit on the floor, NOT ABOUT THE BRUTAL POLICE VIOLENCE!!
eddysnet 2 months ago
U.S. farmed pigs
rongjingji 2 months ago
This is Norway, that gave him Nobel Prize, SIX - 6 - UNIFORMED POLICE ARRESTS A PREGNANT WOMAN!!!! NOT ONE OF THEM, - SIX!!!!!!!
politivoldinorge 3 months ago
The same happens in Norway too; the land that gave him the Nobel Prize; the commie China; the commie Norway; totally equal......just a little difference in execution of evilness,,,,,that's all!!!
eddysnet 3 months ago
Sorry for everyone involved in this!
jow5588 3 months ago
He's cute!
WinterHaven 3 months ago
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Human Rights Detective Eddy Jacobsen has been pestered and harrased and tortured by the different Norwegian authorities, ever since he exposed a police murder in 1987. TAX OFFICE."You have not been here". After days of re-write declaration - and with Jolanta Sæther as a officer witness at the tax-office, the executive lied about this. Having failed to declare income for 4 years, a doctor's endorsement stated his illness.
THIS IS THE NORWAY THAT GAVE AI WEIWEI NOBEL PRIZE
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eddysnet 3 months ago
He shows resistance against the whole chinese communistic regime/dictatorship
Respect to and important and impressive person
Best wishes to him from Germany
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He is a lucky man; in NORWAY, that gave him Nobel Prize, this would never happen.
Here is one example; Human Rights Detective Eddy Jacobsen (w w w eddy nu) hadn't written his declaration for five years because of state torture against him; then it was arranged to re-write those afterwards, that took several days to do at the TAX OFFICE - then; The TAX OFFICER LEADER SAID: No, he has never been here to do this, so we must put extra TAX CHARGE ON HIM!!
sunonsound 3 months ago
And I do not think he should use this history to blame the current government. Although I do not agree with many things the government has done, you do need to acknowledge the change they have brought to China. In my opinion, Ai Weiwei is a fake artist who has no talent and no his own thoughts. What he does is simply blaming the government and then use it as an excuse to ask financial support from western.
zhangf1979 3 months ago
@ zhangf1979
Greenpeace says Mercury is running in at least one river at 280 times what the CCP allows.
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Sadly China and the World are being over run with POLLUTION.
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CCP officials can escape the pollution to other countries. Time for democracy, sanity and justice in China
HumanRightsVideosT 3 months ago
He is simply a poor laughable clown who just against everything the Communist government has done. His father was a great man as he said in the interview, I as a chinese, has read many articles from his father Ai Qing, and I have great respect to his father, like many other chinese people. So what he said in the program is not 100% true. His family has trully suffered a lot during the Culture Revolution, but the new government after that has admit the great mistakes they have made.
zhangf1979 3 months ago
@ zhangf1979
How about the Persecution of Falun Gong
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the schools falling down...
HumanRightsVideosT 3 months ago
Ai Weiwei epitomises everything that is worst about popular and talantless trash culture. There is nothing to admire about this greedy self publicist.
redword2007 3 months ago
what the fuck did he do with those urns? wtf?
DUNiT718 3 months ago
I find it disgusting how the Western elite only see human rights abuse, governmental abuse, and mass oppression in China and other countries they dislike. I even think the attitude towards China which makes our things is reflected in the way we treat our underclass,particularly those who do manual labor for low pay. It's way we look down on those who are engaged in physical hard labor and therefore aren't educated or refined and also have much different problems than us that bothers me so much.
CharlieALabtech 6 months ago
@CharlieALabtech Yeah, go ahead and steryotype us . Really ? Would you call a german kid a Nazi ? Hate us all you want , see if we care .
fallout3fan1011 6 months ago
Weiwei is a punk with little talent except for getting himself mounds of publicity from the NY cocktail party set. Destroying ancient art and giving the finger to government buildings take no talent. If so, I want an agent now.
RollingOrmond 6 months ago
In Communist China art paint YOU
khunopie 7 months ago
in china fascists and clerical child molester from the vatican face the truncheon this is the scum the west wants to be "free " and "in office" in order to increase thier own power..(by the way the west gives a FUCK about human rights..illegal iraq war, plutonium ammunition, guantanamo bay ect ect)..if i look into ai weiweis face it seems he getting more and more aware of the wests targets.LONG LIVE CHINA !! :D and keep german fascism out of america !! ;)) usa and china kicked the japanese nazis
05giacomo 7 months ago
@05giacomo The most important point: Keep the German Nazis out of America. Germans hate the US like hell because every time the US entered war Germany almost immediately went down the drain. Its astonishing to see how openly German snitchers are operating in the US, search YT for: Woman Yells Heil Hitler...and watch this woman being supported by others placing themselves next to her. Also see: White racist get pounded at the Huntington Beach pier.A horde of young guys,1 of German origin,move in.
wwwtotalitaerde 7 months ago
Funny how people care more about pottery then human rights. lol
nicpetnic 8 months ago
Beautiful country, ugly government.
His name is cute if you ask me haha.
HelloStanleyHello 8 months ago
Personally I don't think destroying the pottery is he best way to stand up against the regime because it is too easily misinterpreted. But my respect for Ai's courage has not changed.
Lets put things in context;
Ai Weiwei dropped a pot as part of his form of art.
The CCP regime has lied to, tortured, brainwashed, intimidated, exploited and murdered millions of its people for 62 years. Those who have not experienced this defend the CCP because they are blocked from seeing the truth.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 months ago
I have one question for CCP apologists; if there is no problem with one-party rule, the why the rigid censorship?
What are they hiding? Ask yourself that.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 months ago
Brave man. The whole world knows that it was his views on the regime, not his tax evasion- that lead to his detention.The 'economic crimes' for which he was detained were an excuse for the regime to detain him. But we should not forget the other 1,425+ brave Chinese dissidents currently incarcerated for no other 'crime' than voicing their views. They are not violent criminals, not terrorists, not drug dealers. In my opinion they are Chinese patriots. One day this evil CCP regime will fall.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 months ago
Ai Weiwei is such a hero. Because of him I changed my mind about Chinese. I hope more and more Chinese is going to stand up for their basic rights! Be brave and challange then change the goverment! Free China - free Tibet - free Taiwan
kalachakra9 8 months ago
China is a pure country without any politian issues, and people enjoy this kind of life a lot, but this kind of activist are polluting the country, fucck off
igrung 8 months ago
@igrung
You are an incredibly ignorant person. I pity you and wish I could inform you but thats difficult online. Maybe you are young and therefore know no better but consider this. The Communist Party has ruled China for 62 years with their brutal human rights abuses. Do you know about the Great Firewall? Try typing certain FACTS into Baidu; but you will not see details on these facts bcause it is CENSORED-I urge you to at least look up the meaning of that word.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 months ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 thank you, I am ignorant but also young, therefore I know much more things than you a so smart and old sir. Chinese communist made China be the 2nd biggest economy in the world, feeding one fifth people of the world, helping poorer countries to be richer and stronger, where is war, where is no China. The great firewall is nothing for Chinese, because 70% of Chinese don't have private computer, even internet, what they care about is how to break away poverty, disease.
igrung 8 months ago
@igrung
By talking about 'purity' you also sound like a fascist. Are you really so stupid or are you employed by the CCP to spread their lies? 'Without any political issues' Are you trying to make a bad joke?
China is a great country with an ancient history. But the pollution you talk of is not from the brave patriotic dissidents. It is from the brutal one-party regime that has lied to its own people for decades.
You do frustrate me but I know you cannot help your ignorance
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 months ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 If activists really want to do something to help Chinese people, I have a good idea, they could go to the poor areas of China to be a volunteering teacher, teaching the children who cannot go to school more useful knowledge. but I don't think they can afford it, because they can only take shower one time a month, because water is quite limited at those areas, they can only work at daytime, because there is no electricity,
igrung 8 months ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 they cannot eat very full to be a fat guy like Ai weiwei, because there are not enough food, especially meat. but now what they really want to do is just show off, did you watch the movie "wag the dog", I hope you could watch it from internet, then you will know what is politician show, facing to politician, nothing is true, and no one knows what is real.
igrung 8 months ago
@igrung Actually, a lot of modern Chinese have access to more calories, especially with the government's business partnerships with American fast food franchises.
yerk3 8 months ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 what I talked about is the reality of what Chinese people really want, but what you talked about is the politician things. could you pls look at yourself, dirty words cannot help China and you. about the pollution, could you tell me which country is without pollution now? 120 years ago, there was no any pollution in China, but parts of China were colonized by other countries for decades of years, tremendous people were dead because of the wars happened in China.
igrung 8 months ago
@igrung Deflecting accountability by dredging up ghosts from the past will not make the pollution in China decrease by any margin, nor will it make the government any less corrupt.
yerk3 8 months ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 now China is much stronger than before, so some hypercritics stand out and blame a lot to China. I think what they want to do is just show off, if they didn't have money, and they were not so bored, they would not have done this.
igrung 8 months ago
@igrung This has nothing to do with China being "strong." In fact, what this seems to be proving is the exact opposite. In stifling the expression of artists and peaceful activists, they only prove how fragile and insecure they are. A healthy regime does not do this. Plus, when you consider the ecological consequences of China's economic and industrial tunnel-blindness, they're shooting themselves in the foot.
yerk3 8 months ago
@igrung As for the part about "hypercriticals," many of the people in the West who are against the unlawful imprisonment of Ai Wei Wei are also against the unlawful actions of their own governments as well. Implying that they don't is simply a straw man argument.
yerk3 8 months ago
The expression ways of Chinese art is completely different with other country's, for Ai weiwei, he is not a Chinese artist, but he is Chinese and he is a American or other country's artist.
igrung 8 months ago
The expression ways of Chinese art is completely different with other country's, for Ai weiwei, he is not a Chinese artist, but he is Chinese and he is a American or other country's artist.
igrung 8 months ago
I like how Chinese government deals with "Artists" that is full of shit. Think about it, these "artists" are just wasting everybody's time.
Lottechoco 9 months ago
@Lottechoco It must be lonesly to be a CCP troll.
yerk3 8 months ago 8
@yerk3 I am not a troll, in fact the general opinion is that ai weiwei is a western puppet. for example, you can check Yahoo- a very popular source.
Lottechoco 8 months ago
@Lottechoco That's not a source.
yerk3 8 months ago
@Lottechoco
Thats just the point though; you are brainwashed and therefore cannot think for yourself. It is ironic that the mighty Chinese regime is so terrified of one artist. Ask yourself why. Those people who speak out against the CCP are 10x braver than those who blindly make excuses for it. It is easy to follow the crowd. You are choosing the cowards path. One day China will be free from this evil regime and then hopefully you and millions of others will learn the truth.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 months ago
@Lottechoco
Also be careful not to defend the CCP too much... those words may haunt you if you ever find that you are in a situation that you want to question heir actions.
WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 8 months ago
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 i think majority of people don't understand his "art". It does not make me a CCP troll. Go to hong kong apple action news, the top comment in a ai wei wei video(his naked art piece with other naked women.) is ,"I really don't understand this type of art." That's coming from the most westernized part of China, hong kong. that being said, nobody understands the situtation in china , Julian Assange was imprisoned too for leaking US state secret. US is better at spinning things.
Lottechoco 8 months ago
@Lottechoco A lot of people don't understand a lot of art. That's something that most art has in common. Its sources and inspirations are complicated, and most consumer culture, Western and otherwise, is very simplistic, and a lot of people are not educated about art, and so no matter which artist you're talking about, there are always going to be a lot of people who just don't "get it." This doesn't mean it isn't art.
yerk3 8 months ago
@Lottechoco To the contrary. Art that is too simplistic and easy to digest is suspect, and risks crossing the line from "art" into "entertainment" or "propaganda." Again, this has nothing to do with the U.S, and your repeated attempts to bring up the U.S. are clearly a ploy to deflect accountability.
yerk3 8 months ago
@yerk3 but isn't Ai's art trying to appeal to a large audience? So more people know about his opinions on China?
Lottechoco 8 months ago
@Lottechoco The goal of any artist is to present his medium to an audience who will appreciate it. Those who appreciate art, though not a very wide segment of the population, are not concentrated in any one country, social stratum or ethnic group, humans are individuals, there is an equal scattering of all kinds of people all over the world.
yerk3 8 months ago
Ai WeiWei T-shirts, etc. for sale: Search "Who's Afraid of Ai WeiWei" with Google, and enter the fb album that displays the products.
redfox1997 9 months ago
ARTORICAL . com
APBLowe 9 months ago
@cuttlefishgem Oh really? What have I misrepresented?
yerk3 9 months ago
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@cuttlefishgem You're not helping yourself.
yerk3 9 months ago
Hope he will die in prison! One asehole laiser.
MiXiaoPa 9 months ago
@MiXiaoPa Hateful little trolls like you are forgotten by history. The brave live forever.
yerk3 9 months ago
/watch?v=enhf81_sI1M
Is this really an effective way to facilitate change? If he is an artist, and if he really cares about the people in China, why didn't he say "fuck you chinese communist party"? Why such hatred for the whole beautiful civilisation... as confirmed by his disgusting destruction of priceless artifacts from 400BC???? The guy behaves like a 13 year old.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal He doesn't hate his "beautiful civilization." He hates the government that's currently oppressing its people. Is it wrong to sacrifice one thousand year old artifact to call attention to the wrongs of a government that lets millions die TODAY? Try living his life and being as brave and compassionate as him before you call him a 13 year old. What would you suggest be a more effective way to facilitate change?
muwuhu 9 months ago 18
@muwuhu
In the last 20 years close to 500 million Chinese citizens have been lifted out of poverty. Speak to them. They don't hate the government that has transformed their lives.
redword2007 3 months ago
@redword2007
An economic superpower must also allow for more human liberty. Extreme political oppression and economic progress is incompatible.
You're right that many Chinese lives have improved. But the reason many don't hate the gov't that has transformed their lives is because nearly all of them are oblivious to the massacres committed by the gov't in 1989 due to extreme censorship. Show them a picture of the Tank man and it won't even trigger a thing. They can't hate what they don't know.
muwuhu 3 months ago
@muwuhu
The PRC isn't perfect, but it is a bastion of human rights when compared to the US and its allies. The PRC doesn't launch illegal invasions of foreign countries, steal their resources and slaughter their citizens.
redword2007 3 months ago
@redword2007
i totally agree that the U.S. commits countless human rights violations. I just wouldn't compare the PRC with the U.S. government. Slaughtering people is wrong period--no matter which country they belong to.
muwuhu 3 months ago
@ redword2007
Tibet is an INVADED and OCCUPIED and LOOTED Country.
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Please learn about the EVIL CCP
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Free the World from Backward communist countries and empires
HumanRightsVideosT 3 months ago
@muwuhu
I travel to the PRC on a regular basis and can tell you that there is a vigorous political discourse, including criticism of the CCP.
Foreign television is available in most big hotels and all Chinese guests watch it. Unfortunately I am unable to access Chinese television in the UK.
Your picture of the Chinese people as ignorant is patronising and wrong.
redword2007 3 months ago
@redword2007
woah woah woah. i never said the Chinese PEOPLE are ignorant. If anything, I'm more biased, as I'm Chinese. I'm aware that there are plenty of people who are informed of their government's wrongs and are politically active and vocal, even while it endangers their lives.
It's their governmental system that needs work, just as the U.S.'s needs work.
muwuhu 3 months ago
@muwuhu
You said the Chinese people "can't hate what they don't know." My experince is that Chinese people understand the failures of the CCP very well. Have you lived in China? It is hard to imagine that you could have lived there and not have been exposed to the lively public debate between ordinary people.
redword2007 3 months ago
@redword2007
I'm aware of what I said. "What they don't know" referred to the crimes committed by the PRC to Chinese citizens that have since been censored from the general populace's information pool, and have indeed been made impossible to know.
If you felt that my words painted the Chinese as ignorant, than perhaps I was not careful enough with my words, because I do not hold that view at all. Plain ignorance differs from not knowing certain things due to lack of a particular resource.
muwuhu 3 months ago
@redword2007
Also, to answer your question--No, I have never lived in China. But I have family members who have been dispossessed of everything and wrongfully jailed because of the government. Methinks that if such a thing were to happen to you on a personal level, you would not be so supportive of the PRC. That is all.
muwuhu 3 months ago
@muwuhu
Whilst I'm very supportive of the PRC, I am not blind to its shortcomings and the type of injustices that you describe can not be justified. Socialist countries are routinely subjected to interference by the US and its allies aimed at destabilising their societies. This doesn't justify the type of injustice that you describe, but it does help explain why it occurs.
redword2007 3 months ago
@redword2007
awesome :D
muwuhu 3 months ago
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@redword2007
you said
"In the last 20 years close to 500 million Chinese citizens have been lifted out of poverty. Speak to them. "
FYI
the latest headline about china is...
A tenth of Chinese farmland polluted by heavy metals
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Does any communist party admit to that ??? (some how I don't think so)
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muwuhu 9 months ago
@cgseggal If it weren't effective, the Chinese government wouldn't be cracking down on him, would they. Autocratic regimes seldom waste their resources cracking down on ineffective weirdos. They focus their energies on those who frighten them.
yerk3 9 months ago
@cgseggal Well, destroying the pottery was crossing the line, I totally agree. but hey, you can't say that he didn't get his point across: that the communist party has so totally royally f*cked over chinese civilization, we might as well just do away with what little of it is left.
gariadara 9 months ago
This is pure propaganda. At a time when the US is more draconian and repressive than ever before, when more civil liberties have been curtailed than ever before, US media starts pointing fingers at isolated insidents of repression in other countries. It's like a schoolyard bully pointing to a another incident in a different playground in a different school in an attempt to justify his own sick behaviour.
cgseggal 9 months ago
I am not trying to defend the Chinese government! I am pointing out the reasons why Weiwei's statements and methods are despicable and I am pointing to the incredible bias and dishonesty of CNN. I am showing that a complex and contradictory matter has been simplfied by CNN to try to drum up antichina sentiment. The video here is insulting.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cuttlefishgem Really? Because it seems pretty obvious, what with his taking the CCP's trumped up charges against Ai Wiewei as gospel fact, then using them as a basis for implying that he was some unsavory criminal element.
yerk3 9 months ago
@cuttlefishgem Bob Dylan is not a "respectable critic or activist." He's a sell-out. He cares only about money now. He made a lot of good music in the 60s and 70s, and had some very pertinent things to say then, but he sold those ideals when he started selling his songs and image to SUV commercials a few years ago, and this only completes the cycle. I even saw an interview where he himself claimed that the creative energy he felt in the 60s and 70s was long dead.
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3
Dylan is not a respectable activist or critic.
But Ai Weiwei is??
cgseggal 9 months ago
this is sad ai weiwei gets detained for atleast 44 days maybe longer and everyone else wants to fight about government. know what we should be doing talking about how to help ai weiwei and others like him trying to get more human rights because as best i as i can ai weiwei loves china he just doesn't like that nobody has the right to be free. this man is willing to be beaten for his beliefs can any of you on this page say that? would you risk your life for your beliefs? free ai weiwei.
MrSleeps 9 months ago 2
@cuttlefishgem That all well and good. But please let me know what makes wei wei so unrespectable.(forgive my spelling) Im sure Dylan distanced himself from wei wei because he recently played in china, if you come to china and even if you are Bob Dylan you have to tow the line and he did by having his set list approved by the gov he was not allowed to play songs that could be construed as protest songs(please name the other social critics)
KingMinosxxvi 9 months ago
@KingMinosxxvi Bob Dylan is nothing but a sellout. He shelved his beliefs and convictions to play in China because he loves money and attention. It's really a great disappointment, he was so brilliant a few decades ago, but that's gone now.
yerk3 9 months ago
your analogy is not sound. He is talking about his own culture not someone elses... secondly he obviously did not steal the vase ...if some one bought a precious family artifiact from me he has every right to smash it should he please. I knew a girl who told me if you boil water it makes it less clean she said my disagreement on this point was a question of culture, this person was a university grad...wei wei piece is ment to provoke thought about th kind of justifying inacuracy as cultur
KingMinosxxvi 9 months ago
@KingMinosxxvi Who financed the purchase of the vase?
cgseggal 9 months ago
@KingMinosxxvi He betrayed his own culture very long ago when he left his motherland and bummed around New York for twenty years. Then he was picked up by the US artworld and probably the CIA as the perfect antichina hate bomb. Just like the CIA used art in the 50's and 60's as anti USSR propaganda. Do your research.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal Ah, so leaving China is "betraying one's culture?" Maybe you can tell that to the millions of Chinese who have made a new life in this country, who still cling fiercely to their culture. The modern Chinese government is not "Chinese culture," they're just a group of corrupt men using the excuse of culture as a shield against criticism. CIA? Now you're getting hilariously paranoid.
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 Most Chinese who leave harbour no hatred towards their motherland. They may be concerned for change. They may be happy to have found a better life for themselves, but they don't put up youtube videos that sa fuck you motherland and destroy priceless chinese cultural artifacts. Most Chinese seek respectable ways of creating change in their home country. I am not trying to condone or support Chinese government. I am saying Weiwei is just as bad. He is a reactionary adolescent-minded twit
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal Neither does Ai Weiwei. The officials who rule China are not "the motherland," they are a group of mortal, corruptible, and highly corrupt, men. Any government that accuses those who disagree with it of "betraying the (motherland/fatherland/homeland/patria/whatever") is using a ploy to deflect criticism. I've seen my own government do it under the previous administration, and I've seen other governments do it as well, at neither point is it a valid argument, it is always a ploy.
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 I agree with you completely. But Ai Weiwei didn't say "fuck you chinese communist party" He said fuck you motherland. Then he destroyed priceless cultural treasures. That is childish and counterproductive stupidity. If he was a great artist he would know how to communicate effectively in his own art expressions.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal The exhibit you're talking about says "fuck YOUR motherland," not "fuck YOU motherland," and it says it in several different languages, including English. This is a complicated statement that is not about any one country, but all of them, about how blind patriotism and nationalism are fucked no matter where you are.
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TaengooVer9 9 months ago
@KingMinosxxvi Don't waste your time arguing with that "cgseggal." Given the ID, it is a 5-Mao guy.
001zening 9 months ago
@001zening Ad hominem fallacy. Please construct proper argument.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal You're one to talk about logical fallacies.
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 I am not arguing that China does not need reform. I am arguing that Weiwei is an inappropriate and ineffective point of focus because of his destructiveness, that CNN presents an incredibly biased and skewed hypocritical representation of weiwei and the issues at hand which only serves to make things worse; and that the US is AS repressive and odious a regime, albeit corporate and therefore more subtle (and deceptive) in its curtailing of freedoms.
cgseggal 9 months ago
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cgseggal 9 months ago
If you destroy and vandalise priceless ancient artifactsyou should be stopped silenced and put in jail! I am astonished at the blind support this puppet receives. I am astonished at the way he is taken seriously at all. Wake up people. He is being used to stir up anti china sentiment. Why do the americans have this desperate need for an evil other? This is Western social and psychological sickness on display.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal oh sure, being beaten to the point that needed a surgery by police and hiding him somewhere (he might be killed already) is a perfectly fair punishment for someone who "vandalizes priceless ancient artifacts" right? you're an absolutely idiot..
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cgseggal 9 months ago
@SoapySoul @SoapySoul If we knew the whole story we would be able to comment with some validity. But we don't (thanks to reporting like this by CNN) and Weiwei's track record makes him untrustworthy in my opinion.
cgseggal 9 months ago
your ridiculous diplomacy and ignorance of real facts makes me sick !
SoapySoul 9 months ago
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@SoapySoul It is your hatred and anger that makes you sick. Find a better way of creating change and reform in China than supporting a hateful destructive mother****er
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal
damn communists...damn Americans...thank god I live in a free Canada. suckers, I'm pointing my finger
at you, grinning! long live Canada! Free Ai Weiwei!
navojoARISTOCRAT 9 months ago
@navojoARISTOCRAT Have you been drinking?
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal I assure you he is not an american invention. He is a concerned chinese citizen and artist whose worksshop was tore down a few years because the chinese government did not like the art he was making. Hes not a puppet. American artist make art questioning there government as well. There is so much money and so much profitble self deceptiong that obviously goes on in chinese government that wei scares people who want to protect there position enough to silence him.Chomsky is a free man
KingMinosxxvi 9 months ago
@KingMinosxxvi His workshop was torn down because it was built without the proper procedures and in contravention of Chinese law. If an American artist destroyed a piece of the statue of liberty in the name of art and built an illegal workshop I don't think he/she would get very far in his/her mission to change America. There is so much money and so much profitble self deceptiong that obviously goes on in US govt that wei ssupports people who want to protect there position enough to free him
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal Building codes? Oh, now the Chinese government cares about building codes? Too bad they didn't care when those schools were being built in Sichuan, that disintegrated during the earthquake and killed all of those children. Maybe Ai Weiwei should have built his studio 10 years earlier, then maybe some of those kids would still be alive. Thanks for proving that the Chinese government is completely blind to irony.
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 I think your reaction is coloured by unconscious resentment against US construction practises: The twin towers were supposedly built to withstand the impact of far heavier planes than the ones that demolished them in 2001. Yet they crumbled. Weiwei (or the minds that back and finance him) is/are shrewd. Using substandard construction practices and all the awareness thereof after 9 11 to divert attention from US culpability and totalitarian tendencies onto China. Pure scapegoating tactic.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal Now you're just talking out of your ass. But I'm not especially surprised at that. Grasping at straws as if your life depended on it is kind of your modus operandi.
yerk3 9 months ago
@cgseggal The twin towers fell because two massive planes, filled with enough jet fuel to carry them across a continent, slammed into them at over 100 miles an hour. The towers were not "designed to withstand the impact of far heavier planes." You've been reading too much Troofer conspiracy theories. Chances are, I could count on one hand the number of buildings in the world that could withstand the impact of a fully loaded Boeing 747 flying at full speed with a full tank of fuel.
yerk3 9 months ago
@cgseggal The rest of your post is more garbled, baseless conspiracy theories, and justify no response, except, perhaps, what brand of aluminum foil do you make your hats out of?
yerk3 9 months ago
@cgseggal Oh, and the Chinese government really cares about cultural artifacts too. Especially the ones they destroy for far less lofty reasons. Dipping an ancient pot in paint for the sake of art is so much more destructive than bulldozing a monastery in order to keep an ethnic minority in line. Once again, you aren't doing a very good job of defending the Chinese government. You're only proving that they are either massively hypocritical or utter morons. Maybe it's both!
yerk3 9 months ago
@yerk3 No one said the chinese government cares about priceless artifacts. But Ai Weiwei most certainly does not, yet he calls himself an artist. By stooping to the same level as those he hates, he loses all credibility. I am not trying to defend Chinese government. I am trying to point attention to why Weiwei is a useless instrument in the struggle for change.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal and yet noam chomsky is not in prison....he is an interntionally renowned artist im sure there are lots of ways in which he could get some cash....the statue of liberyt is not for sale is it.
are you seriously trying to say that people who descent getting silenced is not a huge issue in the prc...Seriously? Do you think people whom are horribly affected by gross enviromental lapses in the prc for instance and try to say something arnt snapped up without anybody being the wiser
KingMinosxxvi 9 months ago
@KingMinosxxvi Wei Wei may indeed be the wrong point of focus but negative data about what actually goes on in china is very hard to come by, and there is a reason for that. There is plenty in the international media about economic miracle in the PRC as well. I find it hard to believe the sitiuation is the same in the U.S....I assure it is not the same where im from..Canada. There are huge needs to change in china and artists like this man are really quite important. Dont compare that change to
KingMinosxxvi 9 months ago
Respond to this video...to the U.S They are not comparable.
KingMinosxxvi 9 months ago
@cgseggal The only reason anybody knows about him is precisely because he is a famous artist. And the CIA didnt use fine art as anti ussr propaganda. Jackson pollock that irrational anti-communist...please give an example of this reasearch...and in fact many us artists and public figures fought against communist black listing publicly something as proved by wei wei cant happen in china The fact you think he betrayed his country simply by leaving proves you are enormously biased.
KingMinosxxvi 9 months ago
@cgseggal even if wei wei kidnapped himself the point he has made is a valid one
KingMinosxxvi 9 months ago
"From a very young age I start to understand that this nation has no humanity."
I don't think he ever grew up.
cgseggal 9 months ago
This report is extremely skewed, biased, tendentious. Weiwei is an american invention deployed as an anti china propaganda bomb.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal oh really ? my sister lives in china she is sick of watching chinese fake news and she is tired of it's internet connection which does not allow her to post comments on youtube/facebook any other site ... she simply cant share anything to anyone ... chinese communist idiots a blocking everything! who is doing the propaganda ? the americans right or wrong can share their opinions and blame their government! A Chinese can't ! so stop pretending anything !
SoapySoul 9 months ago
@SoapySoul The other day my brother had his laptop stolen by american security police at the border. He lost all his personal intimate belongings and information. He is sick of it.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal stolen ! ha my sister wish she could throw the laptop away .. she cant share anything with anyone on internet anyway as long as she's in china... and stop acting like everything is ok in your country! I say video footage with students being killed by tanks in the center of Beijing !
SoapySoul 9 months ago
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cgseggal 9 months ago
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@SoapySoul I agree with you that is very bad that she can't access information or express her views, but we are talking about the video above and what is the best way to make change happen. Ai Weiwei and CNN are not helping anybody. They are increasing their wealth. Weiwei bummed around in america most of his adult life until he was made into an antichina hate machine by the americans. There is a better way than this.
cgseggal 9 months ago
change.org/petitions/call-for-the-release-of-ai-weiwei
jigilowman 10 months ago
@jigilowman forget about ai weiwei. Find a better way
cgseggal 9 months ago
obey their rules or get out of their market, as simple as that.
btdism 10 months ago
Modern superhero
Ikonoclasto 10 months ago
Why does part 2 of this seem unavailable?
jet1tej 10 months ago
If China wish to progress then they need a man like Ai Weiwei, who is re owned for building the bird nest, if you detain a free Idealist, How can your country progress? Without these people and their Ideas, Your country will always going to be a second rated country, and will never become a super power.
Hmonks 10 months ago
@Hmonks Actually his role in the design of the birdsnest was minimal. He had hardly anything to do with the design which was in the hands of Swiss architects. His involvement has been blown out of proportion hugely. A free idealist does not destroy priceless treasures and put up youtube videos that say fuck you motherland.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal I see
Hmonks 9 months ago
Free Ai Wei Wei, you commy bastards!
001zening 10 months ago
@001zening Free yourself you capitalist cunt
cgseggal 9 months ago
Free western medias!
MiXiaoPa 10 months ago
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奴隶制(共产主义)，奴隶主(共产党)拥有奴隶(人民)的制度。奴隶(人民)须为奴隶主(共产党)干活，无报酬，且无人身自由。法律确认奴隶为奴隶主的私有财产，共产主义跟奴隶制也一样，国家所有财产归共产党。人民跟本不可能享受自己生产所得的回报。奴隶主(共产党)对奴隶(人民)握有生杀予夺的权力，可随意奴役、杀害。奴隶(人民)没有独立的人格，没有任何自由和权利。
antisocialism 11 months ago
I don't get why people are protesting against his arrest??
He's being detained because he's part of the milk posioning scam....thing.
Zencba 11 months ago
@Zencba I mean no offense by asking this, but where did you get that idea from? I googled "ai weiwei milk poisoning" and found nothing. In fact, I've read that the milk poisoning killed 3 young children. One of Ai's most well known works is a huge 3D mural made of children's backpacks to bring awareness of Chinese government's lack of action in the aftermath of an earthquake that destroyed dozens of schools and killed several small children. Why would he do something to harm kids?
KawaiiHunters 10 months ago
@KawaiiHunters english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/news_china/2011-04-11/chinese-artist-ai-weiwei-accused-of-economic-crimes-(dot)html
(He was arrested for "economic crimes" not "health & safety crimes" )
english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/news_china/2011-04-12/chinese-authorities-detain-suspect-in-milk-poisoning-case(dot)html
(Even if the suspect hasn't been made public, I still see it highly unlikely)
KawaiiHunters 10 months ago
@KawaiiHunters I have a chinese channel which includes the news. A man tells about how it affected his son...
Either he's been set up OR America is lying like they always do, and trying to make china look bad.
Zencba 10 months ago
@Zencba that's really too sad. Whoever did do it, whether it's Ai or not, is heartless... they're just small, innocent children :(
KawaiiHunters 10 months ago
@KawaiiHunters Well.. that China for you lol
Zencba 10 months ago
@Zencba Your kidding right?We dont need to "make" China look bad.China does very well in looking bad on their own.They were terrible in 2008 during the Olympics.Crushing and silencing dissent will always fail and China is infamous for this.China doesnt deserve the praise it gets especially on the economy.They are now some hybrid of communism/capitalist totalitarian state now.
RebelsLiberator 9 months ago
@RebelsLiberator
NAZI OLYMPICS IN BERLIN=1936
COMMUNIST CHINA OLYMPICS=2008
...besides that a reigning force in economics!
navojoARISTOCRAT 9 months ago
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No YOU'RE kidding right?We dont need to "make" the US look bad. The US does very well in looking bad on their own.They were terrible throughout 2001 to 2011. Crushing and silencing dissent will always fail and the US is infamous for this.America doesnt deserve the praise it gets especially on the economy.They are now some hybrid of capitalist/totalitarian state now.
cgseggal 9 months ago
@KawaiiHunters Looks like China produces better artists than America. Where are the artists doing similar work, to chronicle the US's lack of action in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina? Or the artists making work to draw attention to the way Bradley Manning has been treated... Oh wait, there are a couple protesting but they don't seem to get quite the same attention by the US media that Ai Weiwei gets. Funny that.
cgseggal 9 months ago
english?
only you colony people of england say that!
other people say english because you have nothing else to say.
people in US-Elite-Universities do not worry about their english.
and they do not want to say good english to you.
because it means respect to you.
but why they should repect you?
americajordan7 11 months ago
這就是所謂的捨身取義,中國幾億人口,有幾個人敢挺身為人民的權利對抗獨裁政府,中共政府封鎖消息不比北韓差,所有中國人都被矇在谷底,溫家寶不但之字未提,還轉移話題談通貨膨脹,人民重視的不只是經濟!!
daniel125551241 11 months ago 5
free ai weiwei
cmcgaith 11 months ago
@cmcgaith free yourself
cgseggal 9 months ago
鲍勃迪伦御史原告在诉讼抄袭见第一修正案的权利
偷取詹姆斯达米亚诺的歌曲由鲍勃迪伦
lawjournal1 11 months ago
remember it's the ARTISTS who stand up for OUR RIGHTS and bring about important changes in the world - not the politicians or corporate fascists.
techcafe 11 months ago
@techcafe Yes but some artists are employed by the politicians and corporate fascists to deceive you
cgseggal 9 months ago
@cgseggal Such accusations are a mainstay of those who have run out of all other arguments.
yerk3 9 months ago
LOL! Coca Cola on an Ancient Urn.
RagingBubuli 11 months ago
@RagingBubuli A disgrace. Is that what you want everybody? Cocacola replacing ancient priceless cultural treasures? If so I say fuck you man!
cgseggal 9 months ago
pardon my ill constructed sentances
KingMinosxxvi 11 months ago
depending on what city your in. you get a sense of the "subtlety" chinese suppression which is not subtle at all. people will eventually see around the corner. The inability to speak up in china is not the biggest problem a bigger problem is the inability to think and that will change.
There is also a n argument that the majority of chinese people arent ready for totatly open imformation which is not that a huge stretch
KingMinosxxvi 11 months ago
@KingMinosxxvi depending on what city your in. you get a sense of the "subtlety" American suppression which is not subtle at all. people will eventually see around the corner. The inability to speak up in Am