Thank you for speaking the truth about all these crimes and the cover up that went on for various unsavory reasons. The truth is always best, and is the only cure for all the crime and evil deeds which happened. Many people need to be healed, and you have shown them the first steps on that path. Success to you.
@stopthechem OK, Narayana Maharaja supported the GBC gurus, and you left the GBC to follow the main supporter / architect / advocate / rasika advisor of the GBC gurus. You went from the frying pan into the fire. Anyway check out my other videos, such as Narayana Maahraja's monkey messiahs. Now you are following the person who makes monkeys into messiahs, you have gone backwards, you are now worshipping the bucket boy of the false gurus. ys pd
by bringing such idiotic false videos morons like you are disgracing srila prabhupad..... u'll have to suffer fo this..... fear krishna atleast... he is watching all ur offences and he can never tolrate his devotees being offended......... fear him.... u'll have to face him ultimately as death.................
Pada1008 : you are exposing yourself as a bad person. What good are you doing to the ordinary krishna Bhaktas? You don't believe in ISKCON or krishna consciousness !!!! you dont have enough of good knowledge. your ignorance and ill will shows. Even if some people did wrong or bad things - that does not give you the right to besmirch the whole genuine movement. You are mixing ISKCON with jesus or ISLAM !!!!!!! This is totally ridiculous.This shows you are not truely dedicated to ISKCON .
@allembrace iskon OR iTSACON IS AN EVIL ORGANIZATION. They voted Prabhupad off of the board of directors in the very very early 70's, like 70 or 71.
You should read Bhaktisiddhantas essay, "Organized Religion." It states that Organized Religion and Organized Crime are synonymous and interchangable terms.
Pure devotees ignore them,just like Srila Haridas Thakur,the Muslim pure devotee,just chanted 100,000 Names of Krsna,while his ennemies tried to dissuade him by flogging him 29 times at market places:he didn't feel any pain,just like Jesus also was protected from any pain as well as Pralad Maharaja:So,we should not eternally lament about our painful experiences,but carry on with cultivating Krsna consciousness,serving the Pure devotee,giving others the Holy Name
Right, when Krishna says that the Kauravas will be punished for insulting Druapdapi, He is being a wrongful accuser. When Srila Saraswati says the sahajiyas are going to naraka, he is wrong. When Jesus says the Pharisees are vipers, he is talking about himself. When I said children are being victimized, that too was wrong, let the children go down the drain. Have you taken your meds today Gauraonline? Yeesh! thanks pd
Fault finding is the easiest thing to do in this crazy world. Sure, all those great personalities you mentioned TRULY cared for humanity and lived life of divinity. Nobody knows you better than you know yourself, and if you feel in your heart that you are concerned for the ultimate good for the people, and you live your talk, go ahead and spend all your short span of life correcting.
Pada1008, are you ready to listen to pure devotees only and none else? "They are not pure devotees, that's my point" you claim. Are you a pure devotee yourself? When you write on this page, you feel authoritative and want your readers to listen to you with rapt attention, right? I don't know you but, I can understand from your mood that you're not a pure devotee. I personally care less about nitya siddha, care more about unalloyed servant of the servant of the servant of the lord.
@Parboogie When you challenge others, that means you think you are a pure devotee? So you are challenging me because you think you are a pure devotee. You are not, get a clue. Thanks pd
Your premise "challenge" is flawed in the first place. Your duty as a devotee is to inquire submissively. Is that not what your lord tells you in the Gita? I do not think it is appropriate to "challenge" if you want to create synergy. That's the problem with the world, everybody thinks himself the wisest!
@Parboogie I am listening to a pure devotee, Srila Prabhupada. Why don't you listen to him? He says you cannot offer bhohgha to the demigods even, but in ISKCON bhogha is offered to people engaged in illicit sex? Where does this rubbish come from? ys pd
@pada1008 Who is that engaged in illicit sex and offered bhoga to transform into prasadam? I'm not aware of it, and would appreciate if you can tell me who that person is.
@Parboogie Jayadvaita swami says the GBC gurus have been engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, so everyone in ISKCON is eating illicit sex bhogha because the devotees travel from one temple to another. Of course Satsvarupa is not only illicit sex, he listens to Dizzie Gillespie, so now we have illicit sex and Dizzie Gillespie pada bhogha, and so on, most all of the devotees of ISKCON eat this bhogha, and the rest of them promote it, same thing. ys pd
@pada1008 I don't condone illicit sex, neither do I support breaking any of the spiritual regulative principles, however, illicit sex is never strange in any spiritual organisation in this world. I don't know about Satsvarup Maharaj's illicit sex affair. Jayadvaita Maharaj's observation is equally strange to me. of course there had been such abuses in the past, and it is utterly wrong for you to condemn Iskcon on such grounds. I think your mistake is generalization. Look before you leap.
@Parboogie OK, so now you are saying not only gurus engage in illicit sex, its common in spiritual organizations? So the GBC says their gurus are absorbing sins (like Jesus) and it is common for messiahs to engage in illicit sex? You lost me here dude! No, the acharyas are all pure, none of them has engaged in illicit sex? And you forgot my original question, why are we offering bhogha to people who are engaged in illciit sex? ys pd
@pada1008 That is your mistake. I don't offer bhoga to any of the said names, hence you're wrong to say ALL Iskcon devotees eat bhoga offered to illicit sex gurus. Anybody can say anything. Are you aware some people say Mary Magdalene was Jesus Christ's girlfriend? If even what you claim were true, I'll not speak harshly to them. You lied that you listen to Prabhupad. Why r u following Narayan Mahara after knowing Prabhupad? They're both pure devotees so why do you abandon one for the other?
@Parboogie Narayana Maharaja said that the 11 are monkeys, and he also said they are gurus. Now you are trying to establish that illicit sex monkeys are gurus. You seem to have a theme here? Sorry, monkeys are jumping around having illicit sex all day long, you and NM can call that guru, but that is not shastra idea of guru. Worse, now you admit you are creating monkey prasadam. pd
@pada1008 You sound very irrational, tamassic, and an empty barrel. You can blow the loudest ignorant horn and it will never make a single blemish taint on Iskcon. You're refusing to accept the fact that you're deceived by your own ignorance of sun glasses and as such cannot see clearly. Only fools will follow the nonsense you talk about. "The dogs will bark but, the caravan will move on" said Srila Prabhupad.
@Parboogie OK, so when Jayadvaita swami says that ISKCON gurus are engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, do you consider official spokeman's statement is correct? Or am I correct when I say gurus are not engaged in illicit sex? And if you do not know that I am correct, why not? And worse, you are saying I am a dog, but dogs do not egage in illicit sex with men, women and children like their gurus? Why are their gurus less than dogs? ys pd
@pada1008 Have you heard this saying "Never argue with a fool for, sane people might not see the difference." One of us is undoubtedly a fool and the sane need not continue argue. "He who is a fool and knows he is a fool is but a wise man. He who is a fool and does not know he is a fool is indeed a fool." Between me and you, whoever thinks himself wise and quick to correct others is certainly a fool. Thus, I say good bye with your insinuating spirit. Mr. perfect, bravo!!!`
@Parboogie You are arguing with yourself. You said ISKCON is the "caravan" ok, and its the caravan of illicit sex with men, women and children, and will go on, and we dogs will bark, but that means, we dogs are more advanced than your messiahs because we dogs are not engaged in illcit sex with men, women and children? So you are saying even us dogs are vastly superior to your messiahs? You are giving us a big congratulations! We accept! thanks pd
@Gauraonline What does that mean? IF rascals are murdering people and abusing people they should be exposed! To not do so would be dishonest, wrong, and criminal.
[...] The Lord can tolerate insult upon Him by any miscreant because the father tolerates even insults from the son. But He never tolerates insult upon His devotees. By insulting a great soul one has to forego all the results of pious acts and benediction also. [...] -SB 1.15.10 Original Delhi Bhagavatam 1964
bhakti tirtha was the most bogus as he totally identified with his black body,,he was allowed to remain because if he was booted he would cry racism..he was paraded as a pure devotee to keep the peace..beleive me ,,ALL ISKCON LEADERS ARE GLAD THAT HES GONE. now they can continue with the jewish mafia that they operate.
iskcon is the prime example of quarrel and hypocrisy..many mentally unstable people with messed up egos and very insecure..this is why they trample each other constantly because they are still neophyte due to un bona fide deviators jacking srila prabhupadas movement and attempting to parade as better than he..sadly gullible weak minded desperate souls beleive this deviation is bona fide..these are GURU KILLERS and when the movement dissolves they will live off the millions the dumb ones gave em.
Krishna Consciousness has helped me so much. BUT and there is a big but. there is hypocrisy and deviance in all religions. personally I have found a more reasonable answer to god
i go to the temple in hillsborough NC every chance i get. However I still live a "secular" life, you could say. But I keep the four vedic principals and God is constantly present in my thoughts. I remember God in all that I do now. So I am no longer gratifying My senses I am gratifying God's senses. I suspect things will change as I grow in Krishna
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Hinduism always eventually leads to fanaticism and there is a fascist element in all these movements. Look at all the hindu mobs out of control in India, because somebody insulted hinduism. And why is it all these clowns consistently appropriate Jesus for their own nefarious designs. Leave Jesus out of your primitive vedic nonsense. If you want Jesus, become a Christian.
There's blame to go all round. History of Western Christianity is filled with slavery, wars, inquisitions, witch hunts and so forth, certainly not folowing the ideal of "peace and love" taught by their master. In modern times: there is considerable resentment that so-called Christians invaded a middle east country causing death, enormous refugee crisis, no food, water, electric and and so forth. This is being done by contemporary so-called Chritians. This is not Jesus "peace" doctrine either.
Suggestion...educate yourself on the subject you wish to comment on before making a complete jack-ass out of yourself. I'm sure you would return the favor if I suggested that the Christian religion is nothing more that a desert death cult that displays a perverted desire for human sacrifice ...right?
@jy768 You have many misunderstandings. Hinduism was created by the British.
The direct words of Jesus are almost exactly like what the Vedic scriptures are like. Its easily provable that Jesus was speaking about Bhakti and love of God not materialism.
If the Vedic path is so bad, why is nonviolence one of the key elements. Most Christians dont even practice that or what Jesus speaks.
There are many web sites that expose Sai Baba's tricks, and according to some of his ex-disciples: illicit sex with followers. The real point that is obvious is: he says he is God, but God does not grow old like Sai Baba? Rather: God is described as "eternally youthful" (never older than a youthful man). Sai Baba says that God is an ordinary OLD man like him. He does not know who God is. God is also described as the most beautiful being, but Sai Baba looks like my wrinkly old uncle Vinny. pd
@pada1008 Just like that chocolate mayavadi Paramahamsa Nithyananda, he is in jail right NOW for illicet sex w/ minors. We call him the chocolate mayavadi b/c he hands out chocolate candy to kids when they get initiated ,LOL
I dont know what sort of morons are giving this the thumbs down as it is simply a quote from Jayadvaita Swami's own paper.
So these strange individuals give Jayadvaita Swami all due respect with folded hands, but at the same time give the thumbs down when someone simply quotes from his own paper, 'Where the Rtviks are Right'.
Pada1008, I must say I don't agree with what you're doing. Not because you're a ritvik, but because if someone were to have taken an interest in Krsna Consciousness through ISKCON, and happen to see videos simply talking about "O these devotees are so corrupt, they're demons, etc.," then you'll be doing a DISSERVICE to Srila Prabhupada by freaking out those potential devotees and thus turning them away form KC altogether.
I am a devotee too. If I say deviants are not Krishna's gurus successors, I am banned, beaten, given death threats, insulted by Narayana and Sridhara clan, my friends assassinated etc. Those who orchestrated that are still in charge. Are you saying you want others to get the same treatment as me? First: policy that criminals are in God's succession has to change. Are gurus voted in by molesters? Are you part of the corruption? Why not help clean it up? Whats your solution? You have none?
I would never agree to supporting molesting, assassination,etc. and I would never wish that upon anyone else. Nor do I agree with what has happened in ISKCON in the past. But you must try to understand that whatever mistreatment one has endured, even in ISKCON, is simply their karma that they would have endured anyway, even if they didn't experience it in ISKCON.And it's not as though every ISKCON guru is out to get you and everyone else. A lot of them are very sincere devotees.
Then, now if we bunch up together...then go and break those s...cker's heads(!)...then it also will be "their karma..."
Why shouldn't we "help" them to pay it as fast as possible, huh?... Let's go mutilate them!.. It is likely to be "their karma"...
And noone should try to prevent these people to expose these things. Not only because it might help them personally... but it is for the sake of all those innocent people who could fall into this trap!
I disagree totally. This arguement is rubbish, sorry. Firstly, everyone finds out about the 80's Iskcon horror stories, so there is no point trying to cover it up. That just look worse.
Secondly better to tell people upfront, that these things had nothing to do with Prabhupada, but deviant disciples, criminals.
Thirdly, Prabhupada gave no authorisation for these so called 'gurus' to initiate, so how one earth can any of them be 'sincere' sincere discples donnot disobey their own Guru.
Thanks. The only reason I am alive is that I have gone public arena. The devotees who stayed "inside" to argue like Taru, Chatur Bahu, and many others, they are all dead. They were assassinated. You cant expect me to jump under a bus like they did, I am a fool but not suicidal! There are some good people in ISKCON, agreed, there are also people who are violent and they ban, beat and threaten to kill us even now. So we have taken the side door and not the front door. We had to, no options. pd
I'll say this one more time, I don't support these things, and I never said we should keep these things secret. I'm just saying that the very first thing you see on Youtube when you type in "ISKCON" is this video. I just think that when a person types it in, they find something introductory to K.C., not criminal history.
@davegarret You are right! Prabhupad tried to expose and embarass these rascals...they hid the letters and many many other files and audios of his, then they killed him for trying to embarass them.
Lord Caitanya wants everyone to become a guru, but you have to become qualified of course!
@KrishnaBerkeley If people cant handle the truth its our fault for 'freaking them out'? If they cant handle this freakout, then how will they handle the 'you are not your body' freakout or the 18th chapter of Bhagavad Gita freakout where they realize they are a demon? Come on!
ISKCON is a travesty to humankind since these disgusting child molesters and murderers have been allowed to take control. I hope that one day a man will come and sever each of their treacherous heads. So they can begin their new form as the belly crawlers they truly are.
Narayana Maharaja said Tirtha is acharya not me, Srila Prabhupada says Tirtha is black snake. NM said the eleven are monkeys, and they are to be worshiped as rati keli. NM's team said Kirtanananda is like Jesus, you guys brought up Jesus not me? NM's book says "there is nothing wrong" with worship of the 1936 homosexual guru, not me? Prabhupada says Krishna has a family priest (ritvik) and NM says this is bogus ritviks poison? I am simply reporting what you guys say, dont blame the messenger!
No YOU have misunderstood everything Puranjana is doing. He is simply working so that Prabhupada's instructions are followed in ISKCON just how Prabhupada intended them to be. At the moment the leaders are going againced Prabhupada's instructions.
Lets face it - the real reason that Narayana Maharaja is upset with "the ritviks" is that when their molester cult was banning, beating and assassinating us, the ritvik followers of Christ -- the police and courts -- saved us from their death grip. I was even saved when three of their cults goondas chased me with baseball bats. Yes, the ritviks saved my life and that completely fries NM, he wanted me to die. Sudama is also a brahmana ritvik and he is Krishna's best friend, he needs to die too?
Holy cow. Chased by baseball bats. That is something you here from some case within the mafia. How can they think they did anything right by such action. I wonder if they had guns in their hands if they would have use it.
1. Please donnot patronise the narrator of this video as he is a senior Prabhupada disciple and is well aware of the meaning of vaisnava aparadha.
2. In order to make aparadha, that person whom you are blaspheming must be a Vaisnava in the first place. The criminals that are being 'blasphemed' are child abusers, murders etc NOT vaisnava's, can you not distinguish the two?
3. Exposing the cheaters and corrupt leaders is SPEAKING THE TRUTH, and that is NOT aparadha!
Thanks so much for your support lakshpri84. Yes you are correct, Sridhara and Narayaan BOTH supported the worship of criminal monkeys as Vishnupada messiahs, very offensive to Vishnu. Agreed. Their policy of worship of deviants ALSO created mass child molesting and murder of disssenters: aparadhas to thousands of vaishnnavas. So you are right, their monkey pooja is very offensive! And when we said their monkeys are not acharyas, they said we cannot protest, so they defend aparadha. thanks!
"If the devotee commits an offense at the feet of a Vaishnava while cultivating the creeper of devotional service in the material world, his offense is compared to a mad elephant that uproots the creeper and breaks it. In this way the leaves of the creeper are dried up." (Cc.Madhya-lila, Ch. 19, Txt.. 156)
srila prabhupad did come for spiritually pure people but for sinners. Jesus said, let the one who has no sin the first to throw the stone to his woman. So who among us is perfect and has no mistakes. i think no one.
But Sridhara said the eleven need to be worshiped as "Rati keli" gurus, that means he says they are pure as Jesus. So he says people equal to Jesus are simultaneously sinful monkeys, that means he is insulting Jesus. thaks pd
Thanks. As soon as we said that monkeys are not as pure as Jesus then the Sridhara and Narayana folks said we are poison and they thus got some of us assassinated. They cast stones at us, their regime is: ban, beat and kill us for saying God's successors are not monkeys. They thereby preserved mass child molesting cult, which they now say "shows their integrity." Protecting the worship of monkeys as God's messiahs is their "integrity"? They got children molested as well. Where's integrity here?
wow !!! I've never seen so much vaisnava aparahdha all in one video! you are telling only half truth
All the Acaryas that you mentioned (outside iskcon ) have only tried to help these iskcon leaders-that does not make them part of the problem. But you just openly criticize them and address great devotees as "sridhar" instead of "Srila Bhaktiraksak Sridhara Maharaja" etc
When we said drug addicts, sex fiends, criminals and homosexual pedophiles are not Krishna's "pure as Jesus" guru successors, Sridhara Maharaja then said "none should protest." He defends criminal's pooja. So he is not Bhakti raksak, he is deviants posing as messiah rakshaka. Then he said the leaders can dig their own grave, and that means he tossed the children into the grave. Helping the criminal pooja did not help did it? Sridhara made a homosexual guru in 1936 too. Thats bad period.
The problem is that the gbc never followed Srila Sridhara Maharaja's advice(they only followed what they felt like) but you are only presenting here one side of the story
btw one can argue that Srila Prabhupad gave sannyas to criminal homosexuals -so does that make Him wrong? no.
Sridhara said monkeys are messiahs, not me? Monkeys are not messiahs? Sridhara supports monkey pooja if he likes, we want to worship the pure. He is insulting the pure by comparing them to monkeys. Guru / Jesus is not a monkey? Sridhara offends pure gurus supporting a regime saying that monkeys, drug addicts, criminals, sex fiends, pedophiles are "pure as Jesus gurus." He is attacking Jesus, Radha's servants, the acharyas etc. as SM did in 1936, deviant gurus. He is wrong! Monkey pooja! No!
First of all Sridhara is the person who assited the false gurus, and when they were failing we protested, and he said none should protest. So as soon as we say monkey are not messiah, he tell us to shut up. Monkey messiahs is SM's idea of integrity? Yes I am exposing SM's dirty monkey messiah policy, which is the same deviation he concocted in 1936. Dirty equals neophytes, not gurus. Sridhara even said acharyas go mad after women, money and followers. Jesus is a material mad man? no! thanks pd
Sridhara is the person who made the movement look bad with his monkey messiah policy. Notice that his followers still say that SM's making monkeys into messiahs "protects the integrity of ISKCON." This is like saying adding smelly old socks to the sweet rice "protects the integrity" no it makes the sweet rice rotten and putrid. Not only that dissenters were murdered in SM's 1936 mess and we were banned, beaten and murdered in his post 1977 mess, he protects the bad guys.
You still haven't answered the question nor proven anything
And as I have said the gbc didn't even follow SM's advice. Perhaps you wanted to be the "Guru" and that's what it's really about?? and You still haven't told us your master plan to resolve problems in Iskcon
Which question did we neglect? You said SM's monkey gurus helped ISKCON's integrity? You made another question, why is SM endorsing monkey guru programs? Anyway the plan is simple, get rid of Sridhara and his monkey acharya program and worship the bona fide guru Srila Prabhupada. That is what we proposed all along, SM and NM told us to shut up and work with their monkey pooja. I said monkey pooja is bogus since 1977, that solves the acharya integrity issue. Jesus is not a monkey, simple! pd
Your "plan" isn't working, nor will it necessarily so why aren't you criticizing your self instead of the Vaisnavas ? I don't need to hear more offenses
Gaura your suggestion is stupid to say the least, you say pada1008 wants to be a "Guru" yea right, thats why he has been campaigning for SRILA PRABHUPADA as the rightfull guru of Iskcon! Absolute nonsense. And you are making offence by blaspheming those who are genuine followers of Srila Prabhupada and who are simply fighting to remove the corruption from ISKCON. Everything is true about Sridhara, he is was responsible for so much corruption, also in the Gaudia Matha!
Thanks Dave. Yes, Sridhara made violent monkey worship project in 1936, dissenters were murdered. Then he supported eleven more monkeys gurus and even more dissenters were murdered. Please stop the monkey and molester pooja etc. then the Sridhara clan says -- we are the offenders! Very offensive? So that means they defended the worship of evil ever since 1936 and still do, we are still wrong to protest SMs monkey worship. This is how they get dissenters killed. SM monkey pooja is offensive! pd
Obviously you are a sheepeople gaura. your solution is to let children get molested, thats not a very good one. four of my godbrothers where molested in the 80's. you want proof, there is so much of it, you make me and the movement sick. gaura YOU are the problem. Solution, you take these molesters and people that idolize them including yourself, out of the temples. put someone in who is not backing or supporting child molesters.simple, what is wrong with you seriously?
If Srila Prabhupada said he was poisoned why do people try to twist his words. They poisoned the society, so the balance of probability is they poisoned Srila Prabhupada.
Now we have a total shamble of illegal deviant gurus accepting the foot baths. WE MUST GET THESE SHAMELESS CROOKS OUT.
The "one percent that are supposedly good" are ALL voted in by the deviants, and at pedophile recoronations and so on, so they are compromised. No bona fide guru is ever voted in by deviants and criminals. So the good should clarify this point instead of acquiescing, and get rid of child beaters in the posts of authority as now stands. thanks pd
The problem is that as long as you go on worshiping corrupt Iskcon guru's instead of Srila Prabhupada you will remain in material bondage for a very long time.
Thanks for the reply, but is it not that you also causing offence? You may be 99% in thinking that the ISKCON Guru's are Corrupt, but their is still that 1% that they could be not, and you will remain in material bondage for a long time, for causing Vaishana upradh, remember we cannot make people follow what we follow, just by showing Negative ness, we should set positive examples in OURSELVES, and then people will see US, and that will start the thinking process :)
Prabhu one cannot whimsically become Guru, he must have authorisation from Prabhupada. Prabhupada did not name anyone, he only set up a 'Ritvik system' where he remains the Diksha guru. Therefore it is 100% fact that they are all corrupt and deviant. It is no appharada to state the truth!
"One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorised by his predecessor spiritual master." (S.B. 4.8.54, purport)
You also said 'negativeness' is wrong. It is not wrong to 'call a thief a thief'. These unauthorised Guru's are cheating, therefore they must be exposed! That is real service to Prabhupada. To accept a bogus guru and oppose those who are fighting for Prabhupada is actually the real appharada, please be careful Prabhu not to make offence.
i never herd this before and wow if any of this that you say is true about the baseball bats, that is very awful. (though sarcastic)
You have been through so much if you are telling the truth. i know my guru is on the streight he is helping Srila Prabhupada. But still everyone says SP could not be poisioned.
i really don't want to sound offensive, but what you are saying sounds way too off to beleive. i think maybe you are being sarcastic and making up things. i just joined in "95" i am a desciple of Radhanath Maharaja and didn't know that Sridar had such an impact on Iskcon.
Thank you for speaking the truth about all these crimes and the cover up that went on for various unsavory reasons. The truth is always best, and is the only cure for all the crime and evil deeds which happened. Many people need to be healed, and you have shown them the first steps on that path. Success to you.
72Yonatan 3 months ago
why is Krishna blue? Is Krishna boy or girl?
dariod2007 7 months ago
@dariod2007
He is a myth. The character is a male. Do not judge by your own cultural standards, however.
72Yonatan 3 months ago
@72Yonatan Satan is a formidable enemy and very clever at and adept at confusing the masses.
dariod2007 3 months ago
Oooops! I read the book "Monkey on a Stick" a while back and there certainly a lot of influential leaders with their slips showing!
1958boomergirl 1 year ago
i spent 15 years in Iskcon the best thing i ever did us go to Srila Narayan Maharaja
stopthechem 1 year ago
@stopthechem OK, Narayana Maharaja supported the GBC gurus, and you left the GBC to follow the main supporter / architect / advocate / rasika advisor of the GBC gurus. You went from the frying pan into the fire. Anyway check out my other videos, such as Narayana Maahraja's monkey messiahs. Now you are following the person who makes monkeys into messiahs, you have gone backwards, you are now worshipping the bucket boy of the false gurus. ys pd
pada1008 1 year ago
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tenthousandyearsgoon 9 months ago
by bringing such idiotic false videos morons like you are disgracing srila prabhupad..... u'll have to suffer fo this..... fear krishna atleast... he is watching all ur offences and he can never tolrate his devotees being offended......... fear him.... u'll have to face him ultimately as death.................
chris11111a 1 year ago
Pada1008 : you are exposing yourself as a bad person. What good are you doing to the ordinary krishna Bhaktas? You don't believe in ISKCON or krishna consciousness !!!! you dont have enough of good knowledge. your ignorance and ill will shows. Even if some people did wrong or bad things - that does not give you the right to besmirch the whole genuine movement. You are mixing ISKCON with jesus or ISLAM !!!!!!! This is totally ridiculous.This shows you are not truely dedicated to ISKCON .
allembrace 1 year ago 3
@allembrace iskon OR iTSACON IS AN EVIL ORGANIZATION. They voted Prabhupad off of the board of directors in the very very early 70's, like 70 or 71.
You should read Bhaktisiddhantas essay, "Organized Religion." It states that Organized Religion and Organized Crime are synonymous and interchangable terms.
Govinda!
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
What an awesome deity 2:05!!!
Could you please tell me where i can find that pic or where its from?
It looks very special it must have some kind of history.
thank you for posting
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
Love your barking!!!
!!Thank you!!
jajss 2 years ago
Asuras will always exist!
Pure devotees ignore them,just like Srila Haridas Thakur,the Muslim pure devotee,just chanted 100,000 Names of Krsna,while his ennemies tried to dissuade him by flogging him 29 times at market places:he didn't feel any pain,just like Jesus also was protected from any pain as well as Pralad Maharaja:So,we should not eternally lament about our painful experiences,but carry on with cultivating Krsna consciousness,serving the Pure devotee,giving others the Holy Name
govindas999 2 years ago
What we say about others says more about us than it says about those we are accusing.
Gauraonline 2 years ago
Right, when Krishna says that the Kauravas will be punished for insulting Druapdapi, He is being a wrongful accuser. When Srila Saraswati says the sahajiyas are going to naraka, he is wrong. When Jesus says the Pharisees are vipers, he is talking about himself. When I said children are being victimized, that too was wrong, let the children go down the drain. Have you taken your meds today Gauraonline? Yeesh! thanks pd
pada1008 2 years ago
@pada1008
Fault finding is the easiest thing to do in this crazy world. Sure, all those great personalities you mentioned TRULY cared for humanity and lived life of divinity. Nobody knows you better than you know yourself, and if you feel in your heart that you are concerned for the ultimate good for the people, and you live your talk, go ahead and spend all your short span of life correcting.
Parboogie 1 year ago
@Parboogie Pure devotees have no faults, so you are correct, they are not pure devotees, thats my whole point. ys pd
pada1008 1 year ago
@pada1008
Pada1008, are you ready to listen to pure devotees only and none else? "They are not pure devotees, that's my point" you claim. Are you a pure devotee yourself? When you write on this page, you feel authoritative and want your readers to listen to you with rapt attention, right? I don't know you but, I can understand from your mood that you're not a pure devotee. I personally care less about nitya siddha, care more about unalloyed servant of the servant of the servant of the lord.
Parboogie 1 year ago
@Parboogie When you challenge others, that means you think you are a pure devotee? So you are challenging me because you think you are a pure devotee. You are not, get a clue. Thanks pd
pada1008 1 year ago
@pada1008
Your premise "challenge" is flawed in the first place. Your duty as a devotee is to inquire submissively. Is that not what your lord tells you in the Gita? I do not think it is appropriate to "challenge" if you want to create synergy. That's the problem with the world, everybody thinks himself the wisest!
Parboogie 1 year ago
@Parboogie I am listening to a pure devotee, Srila Prabhupada. Why don't you listen to him? He says you cannot offer bhohgha to the demigods even, but in ISKCON bhogha is offered to people engaged in illicit sex? Where does this rubbish come from? ys pd
pada1008 1 year ago
@pada1008 Who is that engaged in illicit sex and offered bhoga to transform into prasadam? I'm not aware of it, and would appreciate if you can tell me who that person is.
Parboogie 1 year ago
@Parboogie Jayadvaita swami says the GBC gurus have been engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, so everyone in ISKCON is eating illicit sex bhogha because the devotees travel from one temple to another. Of course Satsvarupa is not only illicit sex, he listens to Dizzie Gillespie, so now we have illicit sex and Dizzie Gillespie pada bhogha, and so on, most all of the devotees of ISKCON eat this bhogha, and the rest of them promote it, same thing. ys pd
pada1008 1 year ago
@pada1008 I don't condone illicit sex, neither do I support breaking any of the spiritual regulative principles, however, illicit sex is never strange in any spiritual organisation in this world. I don't know about Satsvarup Maharaj's illicit sex affair. Jayadvaita Maharaj's observation is equally strange to me. of course there had been such abuses in the past, and it is utterly wrong for you to condemn Iskcon on such grounds. I think your mistake is generalization. Look before you leap.
Parboogie 1 year ago
@Parboogie OK, so now you are saying not only gurus engage in illicit sex, its common in spiritual organizations? So the GBC says their gurus are absorbing sins (like Jesus) and it is common for messiahs to engage in illicit sex? You lost me here dude! No, the acharyas are all pure, none of them has engaged in illicit sex? And you forgot my original question, why are we offering bhogha to people who are engaged in illciit sex? ys pd
pada1008 1 year ago
@pada1008 That is your mistake. I don't offer bhoga to any of the said names, hence you're wrong to say ALL Iskcon devotees eat bhoga offered to illicit sex gurus. Anybody can say anything. Are you aware some people say Mary Magdalene was Jesus Christ's girlfriend? If even what you claim were true, I'll not speak harshly to them. You lied that you listen to Prabhupad. Why r u following Narayan Mahara after knowing Prabhupad? They're both pure devotees so why do you abandon one for the other?
Parboogie 1 year ago
@Parboogie Narayana Maharaja said that the 11 are monkeys, and he also said they are gurus. Now you are trying to establish that illicit sex monkeys are gurus. You seem to have a theme here? Sorry, monkeys are jumping around having illicit sex all day long, you and NM can call that guru, but that is not shastra idea of guru. Worse, now you admit you are creating monkey prasadam. pd
pada1008 1 year ago
@pada1008 You sound very irrational, tamassic, and an empty barrel. You can blow the loudest ignorant horn and it will never make a single blemish taint on Iskcon. You're refusing to accept the fact that you're deceived by your own ignorance of sun glasses and as such cannot see clearly. Only fools will follow the nonsense you talk about. "The dogs will bark but, the caravan will move on" said Srila Prabhupad.
Parboogie 1 year ago
@Parboogie OK, so when Jayadvaita swami says that ISKCON gurus are engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, do you consider official spokeman's statement is correct? Or am I correct when I say gurus are not engaged in illicit sex? And if you do not know that I am correct, why not? And worse, you are saying I am a dog, but dogs do not egage in illicit sex with men, women and children like their gurus? Why are their gurus less than dogs? ys pd
pada1008 1 year ago
@pada1008 Have you heard this saying "Never argue with a fool for, sane people might not see the difference." One of us is undoubtedly a fool and the sane need not continue argue. "He who is a fool and knows he is a fool is but a wise man. He who is a fool and does not know he is a fool is indeed a fool." Between me and you, whoever thinks himself wise and quick to correct others is certainly a fool. Thus, I say good bye with your insinuating spirit. Mr. perfect, bravo!!!`
Parboogie 1 year ago
@Parboogie You are arguing with yourself. You said ISKCON is the "caravan" ok, and its the caravan of illicit sex with men, women and children, and will go on, and we dogs will bark, but that means, we dogs are more advanced than your messiahs because we dogs are not engaged in illcit sex with men, women and children? So you are saying even us dogs are vastly superior to your messiahs? You are giving us a big congratulations! We accept! thanks pd
pada1008 1 year ago
@Gauraonline What does that mean? IF rascals are murdering people and abusing people they should be exposed! To not do so would be dishonest, wrong, and criminal.
[...] The Lord can tolerate insult upon Him by any miscreant because the father tolerates even insults from the son. But He never tolerates insult upon His devotees. By insulting a great soul one has to forego all the results of pious acts and benediction also. [...] -SB 1.15.10 Original Delhi Bhagavatam 1964
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
Specializes in innuendo ! and putting his own words in people's mouths that they did not say! Is this correct or not, baba?
He is like the Catholic general who told his men to "Kill them all, and let God sort them out !"
Tamoharadasa 2 years ago
PADA specializes.
Tamoharadasa 2 years ago
bhakti tirtha was the most bogus as he totally identified with his black body,,he was allowed to remain because if he was booted he would cry racism..he was paraded as a pure devotee to keep the peace..beleive me ,,ALL ISKCON LEADERS ARE GLAD THAT HES GONE. now they can continue with the jewish mafia that they operate.
phsyco348 3 years ago
iskcon is the prime example of quarrel and hypocrisy..many mentally unstable people with messed up egos and very insecure..this is why they trample each other constantly because they are still neophyte due to un bona fide deviators jacking srila prabhupadas movement and attempting to parade as better than he..sadly gullible weak minded desperate souls beleive this deviation is bona fide..these are GURU KILLERS and when the movement dissolves they will live off the millions the dumb ones gave em.
phsyco348 3 years ago
Krishna Consciousness has helped me so much. BUT and there is a big but. there is hypocrisy and deviance in all religions. personally I have found a more reasonable answer to god
incitemike 3 years ago
do you still go to an organized, church, or do you worship krishna at home?
georgezimmer 2 years ago
i go to the temple in hillsborough NC every chance i get. However I still live a "secular" life, you could say. But I keep the four vedic principals and God is constantly present in my thoughts. I remember God in all that I do now. So I am no longer gratifying My senses I am gratifying God's senses. I suspect things will change as I grow in Krishna
incitemike 2 years ago
is that a young bhakti-tirtha swami behind prabhupada at 1:13. he was very proud of his ghanashyam for his success on the library party
marcusguernsey 3 years ago
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Hinduism always eventually leads to fanaticism and there is a fascist element in all these movements. Look at all the hindu mobs out of control in India, because somebody insulted hinduism. And why is it all these clowns consistently appropriate Jesus for their own nefarious designs. Leave Jesus out of your primitive vedic nonsense. If you want Jesus, become a Christian.
jy768 3 years ago
There's blame to go all round. History of Western Christianity is filled with slavery, wars, inquisitions, witch hunts and so forth, certainly not folowing the ideal of "peace and love" taught by their master. In modern times: there is considerable resentment that so-called Christians invaded a middle east country causing death, enormous refugee crisis, no food, water, electric and and so forth. This is being done by contemporary so-called Chritians. This is not Jesus "peace" doctrine either.
pada1008 3 years ago
Suggestion...educate yourself on the subject you wish to comment on before making a complete jack-ass out of yourself. I'm sure you would return the favor if I suggested that the Christian religion is nothing more that a desert death cult that displays a perverted desire for human sacrifice ...right?
OneHeart57 3 years ago
@jy768 You have many misunderstandings. Hinduism was created by the British.
The direct words of Jesus are almost exactly like what the Vedic scriptures are like. Its easily provable that Jesus was speaking about Bhakti and love of God not materialism.
If the Vedic path is so bad, why is nonviolence one of the key elements. Most Christians dont even practice that or what Jesus speaks.
watch?v=Nb6dWrace38
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
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wow you are all faggots, there is no meaning to life
conservburq 3 years ago
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Ritvik and ISKCON are both WRONG!!! Sathya Sai Baba is the Living avatar of tAGE.
circlecityusa 3 years ago
There are many web sites that expose Sai Baba's tricks, and according to some of his ex-disciples: illicit sex with followers. The real point that is obvious is: he says he is God, but God does not grow old like Sai Baba? Rather: God is described as "eternally youthful" (never older than a youthful man). Sai Baba says that God is an ordinary OLD man like him. He does not know who God is. God is also described as the most beautiful being, but Sai Baba looks like my wrinkly old uncle Vinny. pd
pada1008 3 years ago
@pada1008 Just like that chocolate mayavadi Paramahamsa Nithyananda, he is in jail right NOW for illicet sex w/ minors. We call him the chocolate mayavadi b/c he hands out chocolate candy to kids when they get initiated ,LOL
Govinda
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
WHERE THE RITVIK PEOPLE ARE RIGHT
by H. H. Jayadvaita Swami, 1996
"FACT: ISKCON gurus have opposed, oppressed and driven out many sincere godbrothers and godsisters.
FACT: ISKCON gurus have usurped and misused money, and diverted other ISKCON resources for their own personal prestige and sense gratification.
FACT: ISKCON gurus have had illicit sexual intercourse with both women and men, and possibly children as well."
And you say Pada1008 invented this!!!!
davegarret 3 years ago 2
I dont know what sort of morons are giving this the thumbs down as it is simply a quote from Jayadvaita Swami's own paper.
So these strange individuals give Jayadvaita Swami all due respect with folded hands, but at the same time give the thumbs down when someone simply quotes from his own paper, 'Where the Rtviks are Right'.
Lusseyran 3 years ago 2
1.Sulochana Prabhu was MURDERED by Kirtanananda's henchmen. FACT
2. Children of ISKCON gurukula's were beaten, tortured, sexually molested. FACT
And you say 'CRAP' what planet are you living on? These are totally verifiable factual events.
If you think this is all fictional, invented by Pada1008, I think you really need to do your own research as you are very, very out of touch.
davegarret 3 years ago
@davegarret VIsnujana also died under very suspicious circumstances...
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
Pada1008, I must say I don't agree with what you're doing. Not because you're a ritvik, but because if someone were to have taken an interest in Krsna Consciousness through ISKCON, and happen to see videos simply talking about "O these devotees are so corrupt, they're demons, etc.," then you'll be doing a DISSERVICE to Srila Prabhupada by freaking out those potential devotees and thus turning them away form KC altogether.
Just think about it.
KrishnaBerkeley 3 years ago
I am a devotee too. If I say deviants are not Krishna's gurus successors, I am banned, beaten, given death threats, insulted by Narayana and Sridhara clan, my friends assassinated etc. Those who orchestrated that are still in charge. Are you saying you want others to get the same treatment as me? First: policy that criminals are in God's succession has to change. Are gurus voted in by molesters? Are you part of the corruption? Why not help clean it up? Whats your solution? You have none?
pada1008 3 years ago
I would never agree to supporting molesting, assassination,etc. and I would never wish that upon anyone else. Nor do I agree with what has happened in ISKCON in the past. But you must try to understand that whatever mistreatment one has endured, even in ISKCON, is simply their karma that they would have endured anyway, even if they didn't experience it in ISKCON.And it's not as though every ISKCON guru is out to get you and everyone else. A lot of them are very sincere devotees.
KrishnaBerkeley 3 years ago
Oh-hoh-hoh... "...It's their karma..."...?
Then, now if we bunch up together...then go and break those s...cker's heads(!)...then it also will be "their karma..."
Why shouldn't we "help" them to pay it as fast as possible, huh?... Let's go mutilate them!.. It is likely to be "their karma"...
And noone should try to prevent these people to expose these things. Not only because it might help them personally... but it is for the sake of all those innocent people who could fall into this trap!
Wilfreed1 3 years ago
I disagree totally. This arguement is rubbish, sorry. Firstly, everyone finds out about the 80's Iskcon horror stories, so there is no point trying to cover it up. That just look worse.
Secondly better to tell people upfront, that these things had nothing to do with Prabhupada, but deviant disciples, criminals.
Thirdly, Prabhupada gave no authorisation for these so called 'gurus' to initiate, so how one earth can any of them be 'sincere' sincere discples donnot disobey their own Guru.
davegarret 3 years ago 5
Thanks. The only reason I am alive is that I have gone public arena. The devotees who stayed "inside" to argue like Taru, Chatur Bahu, and many others, they are all dead. They were assassinated. You cant expect me to jump under a bus like they did, I am a fool but not suicidal! There are some good people in ISKCON, agreed, there are also people who are violent and they ban, beat and threaten to kill us even now. So we have taken the side door and not the front door. We had to, no options. pd
pada1008 3 years ago
I'll say this one more time, I don't support these things, and I never said we should keep these things secret. I'm just saying that the very first thing you see on Youtube when you type in "ISKCON" is this video. I just think that when a person types it in, they find something introductory to K.C., not criminal history.
KrishnaBerkeley 3 years ago
You falsly claim that exposing corruption is the same as envious critisism, that is simply not true.
"If a man is a thief and people are warned he is a thief, THAT IS THE TRUTH. Although sometimes UNPALATABLE, one should NOT refrain from speaking it"
(Bhagavad-gita AsItIs, 10:5-5,purport)
I agree its unpalatable to hear, but Prabhupada says that we should not refrain from speaking the truth, as that is not real truthfullness.
davegarret 3 years ago
@davegarret You are right! Prabhupad tried to expose and embarass these rascals...they hid the letters and many many other files and audios of his, then they killed him for trying to embarass them.
Lord Caitanya wants everyone to become a guru, but you have to become qualified of course!
GOVINDA!
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
@KrishnaBerkeley If people cant handle the truth its our fault for 'freaking them out'? If they cant handle this freakout, then how will they handle the 'you are not your body' freakout or the 18th chapter of Bhagavad Gita freakout where they realize they are a demon? Come on!
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
Hi guys!.. What a plesant surprise!..
You were sitting here and nicely disscussing some hot...nevertheless sobering topics...
But...obviously haven't notice that a sad melody on duduk began to sound from afar...
...Krishna send ME to you...
So... From the beginning I must just keep you informed that the comparison of rati kelis with Jesus Christ is carrying marasmatic charracter...
I mean... comeon man... what a weak maneuvre.
Jesus cannot be used as a password for charging demons...
Wilfreed1 3 years ago
I dont know about anyone else here but I dont really understand what you are saying.
davegarret 3 years ago
ISKCON is a travesty to humankind since these disgusting child molesters and murderers have been allowed to take control. I hope that one day a man will come and sever each of their treacherous heads. So they can begin their new form as the belly crawlers they truly are.
rykiem1 3 years ago
Narayana Maharaja said Tirtha is acharya not me, Srila Prabhupada says Tirtha is black snake. NM said the eleven are monkeys, and they are to be worshiped as rati keli. NM's team said Kirtanananda is like Jesus, you guys brought up Jesus not me? NM's book says "there is nothing wrong" with worship of the 1936 homosexual guru, not me? Prabhupada says Krishna has a family priest (ritvik) and NM says this is bogus ritviks poison? I am simply reporting what you guys say, dont blame the messenger!
pada1008 3 years ago
You have completely misunderstood what I am saying. You are obviously a deeply troubled individual.
bhuridajanah 3 years ago
No YOU have misunderstood everything Puranjana is doing. He is simply working so that Prabhupada's instructions are followed in ISKCON just how Prabhupada intended them to be. At the moment the leaders are going againced Prabhupada's instructions.
davegarret 3 years ago
Lets face it - the real reason that Narayana Maharaja is upset with "the ritviks" is that when their molester cult was banning, beating and assassinating us, the ritvik followers of Christ -- the police and courts -- saved us from their death grip. I was even saved when three of their cults goondas chased me with baseball bats. Yes, the ritviks saved my life and that completely fries NM, he wanted me to die. Sudama is also a brahmana ritvik and he is Krishna's best friend, he needs to die too?
pada1008 3 years ago
Holy cow. Chased by baseball bats. That is something you here from some case within the mafia. How can they think they did anything right by such action. I wonder if they had guns in their hands if they would have use it.
thomwick 3 years ago
Be Careful! You cant go on saying this type of things! Vaishnava Aparadha!
lakshPri84 3 years ago
1. Please donnot patronise the narrator of this video as he is a senior Prabhupada disciple and is well aware of the meaning of vaisnava aparadha.
2. In order to make aparadha, that person whom you are blaspheming must be a Vaisnava in the first place. The criminals that are being 'blasphemed' are child abusers, murders etc NOT vaisnava's, can you not distinguish the two?
3. Exposing the cheaters and corrupt leaders is SPEAKING THE TRUTH, and that is NOT aparadha!
davegarret 3 years ago 6
Thanks so much for your support lakshpri84. Yes you are correct, Sridhara and Narayaan BOTH supported the worship of criminal monkeys as Vishnupada messiahs, very offensive to Vishnu. Agreed. Their policy of worship of deviants ALSO created mass child molesting and murder of disssenters: aparadhas to thousands of vaishnnavas. So you are right, their monkey pooja is very offensive! And when we said their monkeys are not acharyas, they said we cannot protest, so they defend aparadha. thanks!
pada1008 3 years ago
yadi vaisnava-aparadha uthe hati mata
upade va chinde tara sukhi yaya pata
"If the devotee commits an offense at the feet of a Vaishnava while cultivating the creeper of devotional service in the material world, his offense is compared to a mad elephant that uproots the creeper and breaks it. In this way the leaves of the creeper are dried up." (Cc.Madhya-lila, Ch. 19, Txt.. 156)
lakshPri84 3 years ago
You falsly claim that exposing corruption is the same as envious critisism, that is simply not true.
"If a man is a thief and people are warned he is a thief, THAT IS THE TRUTH. Although sometimes UNPALATABLE, one should NOT refrain from speaking it"
(Bhagavad-gita AsItIs, 10:5-5,purport)
davegarret 3 years ago
srila prabhupad did come for spiritually pure people but for sinners. Jesus said, let the one who has no sin the first to throw the stone to his woman. So who among us is perfect and has no mistakes. i think no one.
pineman888 3 years ago
But Sridhara said the eleven need to be worshiped as "Rati keli" gurus, that means he says they are pure as Jesus. So he says people equal to Jesus are simultaneously sinful monkeys, that means he is insulting Jesus. thaks pd
pada1008 3 years ago
Thanks. As soon as we said that monkeys are not as pure as Jesus then the Sridhara and Narayana folks said we are poison and they thus got some of us assassinated. They cast stones at us, their regime is: ban, beat and kill us for saying God's successors are not monkeys. They thereby preserved mass child molesting cult, which they now say "shows their integrity." Protecting the worship of monkeys as God's messiahs is their "integrity"? They got children molested as well. Where's integrity here?
pada1008 3 years ago
wow !!! I've never seen so much vaisnava aparahdha all in one video! you are telling only half truth
All the Acaryas that you mentioned (outside iskcon ) have only tried to help these iskcon leaders-that does not make them part of the problem. But you just openly criticize them and address great devotees as "sridhar" instead of "Srila Bhaktiraksak Sridhara Maharaja" etc
WoW!!
gaura 3 years ago
When we said drug addicts, sex fiends, criminals and homosexual pedophiles are not Krishna's "pure as Jesus" guru successors, Sridhara Maharaja then said "none should protest." He defends criminal's pooja. So he is not Bhakti raksak, he is deviants posing as messiah rakshaka. Then he said the leaders can dig their own grave, and that means he tossed the children into the grave. Helping the criminal pooja did not help did it? Sridhara made a homosexual guru in 1936 too. Thats bad period.
pada1008 3 years ago
The problem is that the gbc never followed Srila Sridhara Maharaja's advice(they only followed what they felt like) but you are only presenting here one side of the story
btw one can argue that Srila Prabhupad gave sannyas to criminal homosexuals -so does that make Him wrong? no.
so what's your logic?
gaura 3 years ago
Sridhara said monkeys are messiahs, not me? Monkeys are not messiahs? Sridhara supports monkey pooja if he likes, we want to worship the pure. He is insulting the pure by comparing them to monkeys. Guru / Jesus is not a monkey? Sridhara offends pure gurus supporting a regime saying that monkeys, drug addicts, criminals, sex fiends, pedophiles are "pure as Jesus gurus." He is attacking Jesus, Radha's servants, the acharyas etc. as SM did in 1936, deviant gurus. He is wrong! Monkey pooja! No!
pada1008 3 years ago
You are wrong -where has Srila Sridhara Maharaja said this??
The only reason SM tried to help them was to protect the integrity of Prabhupads movement
btw what have You done to preserve Srila Prabhupads movement? only making it look bad -what's your next step after you "expose" the dirt??????
gaura 3 years ago
First of all Sridhara is the person who assited the false gurus, and when they were failing we protested, and he said none should protest. So as soon as we say monkey are not messiah, he tell us to shut up. Monkey messiahs is SM's idea of integrity? Yes I am exposing SM's dirty monkey messiah policy, which is the same deviation he concocted in 1936. Dirty equals neophytes, not gurus. Sridhara even said acharyas go mad after women, money and followers. Jesus is a material mad man? no! thanks pd
pada1008 3 years ago
Sridhara is the person who made the movement look bad with his monkey messiah policy. Notice that his followers still say that SM's making monkeys into messiahs "protects the integrity of ISKCON." This is like saying adding smelly old socks to the sweet rice "protects the integrity" no it makes the sweet rice rotten and putrid. Not only that dissenters were murdered in SM's 1936 mess and we were banned, beaten and murdered in his post 1977 mess, he protects the bad guys.
Attacking integrity!
pada1008 3 years ago
You still haven't answered the question nor proven anything
And as I have said the gbc didn't even follow SM's advice. Perhaps you wanted to be the "Guru" and that's what it's really about?? and You still haven't told us your master plan to resolve problems in Iskcon
gaura 3 years ago
Which question did we neglect? You said SM's monkey gurus helped ISKCON's integrity? You made another question, why is SM endorsing monkey guru programs? Anyway the plan is simple, get rid of Sridhara and his monkey acharya program and worship the bona fide guru Srila Prabhupada. That is what we proposed all along, SM and NM told us to shut up and work with their monkey pooja. I said monkey pooja is bogus since 1977, that solves the acharya integrity issue. Jesus is not a monkey, simple! pd
pada1008 3 years ago
Your "plan" isn't working, nor will it necessarily so why aren't you criticizing your self instead of the Vaisnavas ? I don't need to hear more offenses
gaura 3 years ago
Gaura your suggestion is stupid to say the least, you say pada1008 wants to be a "Guru" yea right, thats why he has been campaigning for SRILA PRABHUPADA as the rightfull guru of Iskcon! Absolute nonsense. And you are making offence by blaspheming those who are genuine followers of Srila Prabhupada and who are simply fighting to remove the corruption from ISKCON. Everything is true about Sridhara, he is was responsible for so much corruption, also in the Gaudia Matha!
davegarret 3 years ago
Thanks Dave. Yes, Sridhara made violent monkey worship project in 1936, dissenters were murdered. Then he supported eleven more monkeys gurus and even more dissenters were murdered. Please stop the monkey and molester pooja etc. then the Sridhara clan says -- we are the offenders! Very offensive? So that means they defended the worship of evil ever since 1936 and still do, we are still wrong to protest SMs monkey worship. This is how they get dissenters killed. SM monkey pooja is offensive! pd
pada1008 3 years ago
Obviously you are a sheepeople gaura. your solution is to let children get molested, thats not a very good one. four of my godbrothers where molested in the 80's. you want proof, there is so much of it, you make me and the movement sick. gaura YOU are the problem. Solution, you take these molesters and people that idolize them including yourself, out of the temples. put someone in who is not backing or supporting child molesters.simple, what is wrong with you seriously?
stevoreno 2 years ago
@stevoreno I am sorry to hear that.
tenthousandyearsgoon 1 year ago
If Srila Prabhupada said he was poisoned why do people try to twist his words. They poisoned the society, so the balance of probability is they poisoned Srila Prabhupada.
Now we have a total shamble of illegal deviant gurus accepting the foot baths. WE MUST GET THESE SHAMELESS CROOKS OUT.
Great work prabhu.
jojoruby 4 years ago
The "one percent that are supposedly good" are ALL voted in by the deviants, and at pedophile recoronations and so on, so they are compromised. No bona fide guru is ever voted in by deviants and criminals. So the good should clarify this point instead of acquiescing, and get rid of child beaters in the posts of authority as now stands. thanks pd
pada1008 4 years ago
Im Matter your matter so whats the problem?
vig009 4 years ago
The problem is that as long as you go on worshiping corrupt Iskcon guru's instead of Srila Prabhupada you will remain in material bondage for a very long time.
davegarret 4 years ago
Thanks for the reply, but is it not that you also causing offence? You may be 99% in thinking that the ISKCON Guru's are Corrupt, but their is still that 1% that they could be not, and you will remain in material bondage for a long time, for causing Vaishana upradh, remember we cannot make people follow what we follow, just by showing Negative ness, we should set positive examples in OURSELVES, and then people will see US, and that will start the thinking process :)
vig009 4 years ago
Prabhu one cannot whimsically become Guru, he must have authorisation from Prabhupada. Prabhupada did not name anyone, he only set up a 'Ritvik system' where he remains the Diksha guru. Therefore it is 100% fact that they are all corrupt and deviant. It is no appharada to state the truth!
"One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorised by his predecessor spiritual master." (S.B. 4.8.54, purport)
davegarret 4 years ago
You also said 'negativeness' is wrong. It is not wrong to 'call a thief a thief'. These unauthorised Guru's are cheating, therefore they must be exposed! That is real service to Prabhupada. To accept a bogus guru and oppose those who are fighting for Prabhupada is actually the real appharada, please be careful Prabhu not to make offence.
davegarret 4 years ago
Well most of the statements,
i never herd this before and wow if any of this that you say is true about the baseball bats, that is very awful. (though sarcastic)
You have been through so much if you are telling the truth. i know my guru is on the streight he is helping Srila Prabhupada. But still everyone says SP could not be poisioned.
Jhulanyatradd 4 years ago
i really don't want to sound offensive, but what you are saying sounds way too off to beleive. i think maybe you are being sarcastic and making up things. i just joined in "95" i am a desciple of Radhanath Maharaja and didn't know that Sridar had such an impact on Iskcon.
Jhulanyatradd 4 years ago
You failed to specify which statements are not believable? You are making a generic issue, that does not help. thanks pd
pada1008 4 years ago