In effect, as per the Supreme Court decision in the case of Crandall v Nevada, 73 US 35; 18 L Ed (1867), speed limits and other traffic control devices, being non fact based, are simply an unlawful tax or impost on travel, and thus unconstitutional for the reason cited in Crandall.
(Crandall involved a tax on travelers!! which is what in essence speed limits, unscientific stop signs, etc., simply are stripped of all the phony fraudulent politician folderol pretending them to relate somehow to safety, not to mention the extortion violating the federal anti-racketeering act (RICO) , 18 USC 1961 and the law against obstructing federal rights, 18 USC 241).
@LanethShadowWalker Ha! Story of my life! "Lets pass this around the office and send him a jumbled email with everybody's suggestions" Then you have no idea which one to actually carry through with. FML.
this video is ridiculous and not based on reality at all!
you're completely forgetting the clients making last second changes to the final product 5 minutes before the deadline! the designer should be frantically running back and forth at the end of the video with THE LOOK in his eyes!
@norkhairi The briefing used for the Pepsi logo redesign is actually out there, somewhere on the internet. You have no idea of all the creepy delusional stuff you'll find there.
In my experience, this type of scenario is more common with cheaper clients and smaller budgets.
Oddly enough, the ones spending the big bucks are also usually the most willing to trust your judgment and make good use of the money. Cheap clients are fickle and meddling.
@theeponym I believe there is a well-understandable reason why some clients grow big while others stay cheap and have smaller budgets. Cheaper freaks tend to impose their will outside the bounds of their knowledge thus achieving poor results.
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yeah -- this is why I include a "3 rounds of minor edits included, additional rounds priced according to changes required" -- usually stops the process at 3 rounds max ...
This is true with every big company. They have about 20 people providing their "input" and ends up making something very EZ into a pile of crap. Just because no one person wants to make a call on the project.
Supportive. This what you call it, is that Dixieland? I guess this might make some people offended. We should not suggest that Dixieland fans are bad drivers, should we now?
WOW! This is great! its right on target with the way that people with no training, experience, or skill in design or productions of any kind like to over produce a piece when given the power they shouldnt have you hit the nail on the head folks, it really explains why there is so much crap! getting cranked out right and left these days - NICE JOB. THANKS! I hope it sinks in to those who are guilty I doubt it though :)
Micro managing talentless hacks can put you through such hell. A hell worse than climbing stairs in ten inch heels, or juggling puppies and chainsaws. Or both! Good video.
This is like all the other comments, funny (in a depressing way) because it's so true.
Amazing that more of us designers aren't also alcoholics, and why I pine for a job like other occupations where people don't tell me how to do mine, the one they're paying me for doing. When clients get like the ones in the video, we designers should start telling the clients how to do THEIR jobs, to give them the hint. We don't tell them how to do their jobs, why do they insist on telling us how to do ours?
this happens because people on the client side feel they should have a creative say on the design process. and the designers on the creative side fail to make it clear why they are the designers and not the other way around. some clients still are a pain in the ass.
i was thinking the same thing as vfxman- only with the octagon- so they really feel that they could claim ownership over the design and feel that all their changes along the way were necessary in getting back to pretty much the exact same thing the designer came up with.
My creative agency always showed us THREE concepts at design reviews:
First, one that they hated, and knew we'd hate too. That smoked out all the contrarians, got them out of the way.
Second, the one that the design team loved, and would net them a Clio award, but the Account Rep knew we wouldn't go for. That kept the designers happy.
Finally, the one they knew we'd love. That's what made them the money.
We always picked the third one shown, at the first meeting. Meetings were simple and easy.
I was waiting for the group to finally go back to the original design after wasting all the time actually creating something. That's more realistic. :)
You know I was really waiting for t he guy to come in and say "What the hell is going on here? Its red, it says STOP - END OF STORY" Where is that guy?
This happen when cleaning woman can speak about my work like professional or manager as well. I hate this !!! Everybody are silent when programmer describing something because they don`t understand but when they see picture, everybody are smart and clever and trust to professionals ? :))) c`mon :) I love this clients so much and shotgun behind the doors as well ;)x) Cheers
I laughed out loud when I watched this, then I wanted to cry because I've dealt with knuckleheaded clients like this for the last 20 years. Leave the creativity up to creative people. This clip is funny as hell, but it's also (unfortunately) dead-on accurate. Makes me wish that I'd gotten a job as a plumber instead of a graphic designer!
YES YES YES!!! This is fricking brilliant!!! This has been my lament for the last 15 years, at least... "decision by committee" is code for a bunch of imbeciles putting in their 2 cents worth to justify their salaries... "could you move that comma down just a smidge?" And the adding logos thing... all of it... brilliant!!!
Yep, this is reality. This is what corporate America's marketers have become - a bunch of people who hide behind committees, focus group results and paint-by-numbers "strategic best practices" instead of admitting the hard truth...Sometimes the solution IS that simple and that ideas that truly make an impact one way or the other actually means putting your ass on the line. When are we gonna wake up and realize people are sick of being inundated with marketing crap?
Oh. My. God. Watching this video has been a clue-by-4 bashed upside my temple. I have been the client. I have annoyed the contractor to this degree. How embarrassing. :~{
LOL - Couldn't stop laughing - it's VERY real in today's world of Internet consensus-driven 'agile' - short-term thinking development' where everybody thinks they are a designer, yet few truly understand what that entails... hilarious! Thanks for sharing this :)
Graphic Design in a corporate atmosphere. Been there done that. And your boss is not only younger than you, but has a skate-by degree in Transporatation Engineering. What he's doing leading the design department is beyond me. Oh wait... he's married to the VP. So, there he sits all day, tapping his pencil on his desk, screwing one of the data entry clerks at lunch, and telling the designers to make the text taller, and move it "I don't know...somewhere else."
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An Editor friend of mine sent this to me yesterday.... I nearly died! I am a Designer for a large company and this video nailed my life right on the button! So sad that this is the reality for creative people! This is brilliant on all levels. This video should be part of all aspiring Designer's college education...... but, wait. We may run out of Designers if they all this! LOL!
17 people like to make designers suffer... bitches.
Ozkarguitar 1 week ago
"For internal use only. Please do not duplicate."
Ha.
remino 2 weeks ago
DESIGNER KNOW BEST
yummsqi 1 month ago
Client: "I think..."
Designer: "Don't."
Bruceelzebubba 1 month ago 10
I'd stop....to punch the sign.
callmewing 1 month ago 2
I think a creative brief could have solved the scope creep. :)
alexrobinsondesign 1 month ago
It's a designer's truth. 80% of time, the customers don't know what they want.
Individuo80 2 months ago
An example of designing in the wrong direction. Roundabouts & traffic circles are better.
waltarrrrr 5 months ago
This is soo what I'm feeling now ._.
Silverbleedy 6 months ago
In effect, as per the Supreme Court decision in the case of Crandall v Nevada, 73 US 35; 18 L Ed (1867), speed limits and other traffic control devices, being non fact based, are simply an unlawful tax or impost on travel, and thus unconstitutional for the reason cited in Crandall.
G5F4D3S2A1 7 months ago
(Crandall involved a tax on travelers!! which is what in essence speed limits, unscientific stop signs, etc., simply are stripped of all the phony fraudulent politician folderol pretending them to relate somehow to safety, not to mention the extortion violating the federal anti-racketeering act (RICO) , 18 USC 1961 and the law against obstructing federal rights, 18 USC 241).
G5F4D3S2A1 7 months ago
wow
explosives14 1 year ago
This is why I quit the industry.
gnimiewnah 1 year ago 6
@gnimiewnah im out too! whooo
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I'm shocked no one asked for a drop shadow. You know, to make it "pop."
quinnmcguee 1 year ago 9
@quinnmcguee At least there's a specific direction one could go to, as opposed to the vague "I dunno, make it pop!" where you're just firing wildly
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kumari5789 1 year ago
You can tell that it's a government contract... same applies for web sites...
459Vortex 1 year ago
Ah Toronto ;D
i742 1 year ago
KD Lang was great in this...
bitcloud1 1 year ago
1:34 cracks me up when the artist jumps cos the third exec just appears out of nowhere :D
LanethShadowWalker 1 year ago
@LanethShadowWalker Ha! Story of my life! "Lets pass this around the office and send him a jumbled email with everybody's suggestions" Then you have no idea which one to actually carry through with. FML.
moongander 1 year ago
as a stylist dealing with agencies...this is really too close to home.
mrmusicmandg 1 year ago
this video is ridiculous and not based on reality at all!
you're completely forgetting the clients making last second changes to the final product 5 minutes before the deadline! the designer should be frantically running back and forth at the end of the video with THE LOOK in his eyes!
leonel1982 1 year ago 4
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leonel1982 1 year ago
real!
ccarriconde 1 year ago
This is why i charge by the hour
naireland 1 year ago 24
Wahh we all know this customer comments :-)
HTietzi 1 year ago
I think this is exactly what happened when the Pepsi logo were being redesigned.
norkhairi 1 year ago
@norkhairi The briefing used for the Pepsi logo redesign is actually out there, somewhere on the internet. You have no idea of all the creepy delusional stuff you'll find there.
nellfallcard 1 year ago
This is more annoying than dealing with a real client
moo99 1 year ago
In my experience, this type of scenario is more common with cheaper clients and smaller budgets.
Oddly enough, the ones spending the big bucks are also usually the most willing to trust your judgment and make good use of the money. Cheap clients are fickle and meddling.
theeponym 1 year ago 65
@theeponym You must have worked for wildly different big companies than I have...
TomekTQ 1 year ago
@theeponym you'll have to define big bucks then.
Pierrrrrrrrrrrrrrre 1 year ago
@theeponym On the contrary. I've seen clients spend HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS extra on a series of irrational whims.
StanwoodDesign 6 months ago 3
@theeponym This is a counterintuitive element of business that a lot of people don't get. I like to say that the squeaky wheel gets replaced.
AceTracer 1 month ago
@theeponym I believe there is a well-understandable reason why some clients grow big while others stay cheap and have smaller budgets. Cheaper freaks tend to impose their will outside the bounds of their knowledge thus achieving poor results.
nsgdesign 2 weeks ago
Man this video is as old as the internets. I think the last time I've seen it, I didn't even have pubes yet.
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BestofYTChannel 2 years ago
This is awesome... audio sucks, but great concept!
soyvot 2 years ago
yeah -- this is why I include a "3 rounds of minor edits included, additional rounds priced according to changes required" -- usually stops the process at 3 rounds max ...
gaustoninDC 2 years ago 5
This is true with every big company. They have about 20 people providing their "input" and ends up making something very EZ into a pile of crap. Just because no one person wants to make a call on the project.
Shakes71 2 years ago 2
On behalf of all designers everywhere I would just like to say AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHH!!!!
I think I built a website for these people...
UndercoverDigital 2 years ago
Brand people - they live on.
smittyapolis 2 years ago
true but as a great designer you need to step up and suggest best practices or they will walk all over you.
gadgetboy32 2 years ago 2
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Oldbrook 2 years ago 5
Supportive. This what you call it, is that Dixieland? I guess this might make some people offended. We should not suggest that Dixieland fans are bad drivers, should we now?
dubaimisfit 2 years ago
SAD BUT TURE
simmytam 2 years ago 3
WOW! This is great! its right on target with the way that people with no training, experience, or skill in design or productions of any kind like to over produce a piece when given the power they shouldnt have you hit the nail on the head folks, it really explains why there is so much crap! getting cranked out right and left these days - NICE JOB. THANKS! I hope it sinks in to those who are guilty I doubt it though :)
elginfans 2 years ago 6
After years of working with the US Department of Transportation, this makes me laugh doubly hard!
Neonfrax2 2 years ago
Micro managing talentless hacks can put you through such hell. A hell worse than climbing stairs in ten inch heels, or juggling puppies and chainsaws. Or both! Good video.
PinkLederhosen 2 years ago
this is actually true in so many different aspects of product development. Its the interaction between the client and the developer
rohanag108 2 years ago
This is like all the other comments, funny (in a depressing way) because it's so true.
Amazing that more of us designers aren't also alcoholics, and why I pine for a job like other occupations where people don't tell me how to do mine, the one they're paying me for doing. When clients get like the ones in the video, we designers should start telling the clients how to do THEIR jobs, to give them the hint. We don't tell them how to do their jobs, why do they insist on telling us how to do ours?
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pearmac 2 years ago
This is great!
retrodav 2 years ago
lol loved this
it's what us designers deal with day to day!
crisoner 2 years ago
Hilarious. An ideal tool for sensitizing clients. And hopefully they will leave designing to the designers.
tempest123ind 2 years ago
lol great!
DocHampson 2 years ago
this happens because people on the client side feel they should have a creative say on the design process. and the designers on the creative side fail to make it clear why they are the designers and not the other way around. some clients still are a pain in the ass.
kazuyamochu 2 years ago
maybe this wouldn't happen so often if agencies didn't spoil their clients.
lucoweb 2 years ago 6
Funny but true...
hankiepanky 2 years ago
I've got a client exactly like this.
viclutterbach 2 years ago 3
luckily i always able to persuade my client to pick my best design.
photosnaper 2 years ago
liar
WakeriderX 2 years ago 3
I am trying to figure out how to do this what is your secret??
EB88 2 years ago
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Whoever uploaded this: LEARN TO PROPERLY CATEGORIZE AND TAG YOUR ENTRY.
This video should show up for searches like "client ruins design" or "client expectations", etc.
FAIL!
ng3000 2 years ago
or... you could just search "redesigning the stop sign"
thepyre 2 years ago 2
Oh god I need to show this to my dessigner friends XD
Romanticideitzcoatl 3 years ago 3
my favorite lines:
"...i showed it to my daughter and she didn't get it."
"...and a website address for more information."
jpd2h 3 years ago
i was thinking the same thing as vfxman- only with the octagon- so they really feel that they could claim ownership over the design and feel that all their changes along the way were necessary in getting back to pretty much the exact same thing the designer came up with.
katie8282 3 years ago
My creative agency always showed us THREE concepts at design reviews:
First, one that they hated, and knew we'd hate too. That smoked out all the contrarians, got them out of the way.
Second, the one that the design team loved, and would net them a Clio award, but the Account Rep knew we wouldn't go for. That kept the designers happy.
Finally, the one they knew we'd love. That's what made them the money.
We always picked the third one shown, at the first meeting. Meetings were simple and easy.
goatchowder 3 years ago 3
hilarious
jpd2h 3 years ago
@goatchowder and most of the time the third option was probably as bad as the first one.
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blond chick is kind of hot, i'd fuck her
flamingdouche 3 years ago
I was waiting for the group to finally go back to the original design after wasting all the time actually creating something. That's more realistic. :)
vfxman222 3 years ago
You know I was really waiting for t he guy to come in and say "What the hell is going on here? Its red, it says STOP - END OF STORY" Where is that guy?
SavageJohnny 3 years ago 2
He quit.
soldier2187 3 years ago
he got fired for not being a team player
rushoffailure 2 years ago
i make web pages.... and can totally relate to this video. we get stupid clients like this all the time!
sublboyime 3 years ago
I can totally relate!!!
jpmoney1783 3 years ago
The graphic artist is at fault for not being lazy, what a disgrace, an artist who isn't lazy. Pathetic.
HalfGreyHalfMan 3 years ago
This isn't fiction.
noteon 3 years ago 6
Thank god there are other people alive who understand my life! Laughing at this was a better ab workout than crunches.
losunn 3 years ago 6
This happen when cleaning woman can speak about my work like professional or manager as well. I hate this !!! Everybody are silent when programmer describing something because they don`t understand but when they see picture, everybody are smart and clever and trust to professionals ? :))) c`mon :) I love this clients so much and shotgun behind the doors as well ;)x) Cheers
bonelessx 3 years ago
3 stages of a graphic designer's career:
1. denial
2. acceptance
3. retirement
chrismillsg4 3 years ago 50
Brilliant!!!
purplemoongirl 2 years ago
who says knucklehead anymore? well my grandfather for one... thats bout it...
anyways... this is funny ^^
jasminelovesanime 3 years ago
excellent stuff! Great job!
ajsa25 3 years ago
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yes, thank God the government figured this out for us. What would we do without the government saving us from ourselves?
... sarcarsm...
ghalpin23 3 years ago
Love the part about how the three-year old doesn't get the headline. That's my life - clients hiding behind three-year olds.
salharmonic 3 years ago 6
I worked with people like these for the past year. Gaaaaaaah.
SolInvictus 3 years ago 2
Gotta justify the Powerpoint and CAD classes afterall.
txrottie 3 years ago
Love it!
sollydorry 3 years ago 2
I laughed out loud when I watched this, then I wanted to cry because I've dealt with knuckleheaded clients like this for the last 20 years. Leave the creativity up to creative people. This clip is funny as hell, but it's also (unfortunately) dead-on accurate. Makes me wish that I'd gotten a job as a plumber instead of a graphic designer!
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bostonianbobbie 3 years ago
This is my life.....
majoong2 3 years ago 2
Hello - DOES ANYONE KNOW THE ORGINS OF THIS VIDEO (I.E. WHO PRODUCED IT AND/OR FOR WHAT COMPANY)?
kred65 3 years ago
I'll second that in case the caps weren't enough. I'm curious as to where this actually came from.
chinesemonk 3 years ago
YES YES YES!!! This is fricking brilliant!!! This has been my lament for the last 15 years, at least... "decision by committee" is code for a bunch of imbeciles putting in their 2 cents worth to justify their salaries... "could you move that comma down just a smidge?" And the adding logos thing... all of it... brilliant!!!
susanlee828 3 years ago 4
MEMORIES, MEMORIES
koatl72 3 years ago 2
Yep, this is reality. This is what corporate America's marketers have become - a bunch of people who hide behind committees, focus group results and paint-by-numbers "strategic best practices" instead of admitting the hard truth...Sometimes the solution IS that simple and that ideas that truly make an impact one way or the other actually means putting your ass on the line. When are we gonna wake up and realize people are sick of being inundated with marketing crap?
diggywiddit 3 years ago 5
Oh. My. God. Watching this video has been a clue-by-4 bashed upside my temple. I have been the client. I have annoyed the contractor to this degree. How embarrassing. :~{
TailoredFit 3 years ago 9
I'm speechless...this is absolutely hilarious and dead on!
jarman0 3 years ago 2
spot on.
scomodel 3 years ago 2
Hey!!! Where is the PETA add??? LOL This is sooooooo funny!!!
JBsBgstFan 3 years ago 2
Reminds me of that video where they show how microsoft would "redesign" the Ipod box with corporate branding.
aceofspades1217 3 years ago 4
LOL - Couldn't stop laughing - it's VERY real in today's world of Internet consensus-driven 'agile' - short-term thinking development' where everybody thinks they are a designer, yet few truly understand what that entails... hilarious! Thanks for sharing this :)
urbanpeacock 3 years ago 7
*shivers*
Graphic Design in a corporate atmosphere. Been there done that. And your boss is not only younger than you, but has a skate-by degree in Transporatation Engineering. What he's doing leading the design department is beyond me. Oh wait... he's married to the VP. So, there he sits all day, tapping his pencil on his desk, screwing one of the data entry clerks at lunch, and telling the designers to make the text taller, and move it "I don't know...somewhere else."
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BusWatcher 3 years ago 2
This brings back horrible memories.
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noxvet 3 years ago
Not to say this wasn't entertaining!
zetaloid 3 years ago
Thank god for the bureaucracy of government to prevent this mayhem.
Anyone else see the contradiction?
zetaloid 3 years ago
For internal use only, eh?
Garonyldas 3 years ago
As a former graphic designer, it needs some demeaning comments on how the creative guys are only good at prettying it up.
trylonperisphere 3 years ago
so funny!
"if i were in this situation, i'd stop!" the blonde lady's my favorite [:
secretninja557 3 years ago
painfully accurate
hoyles82 3 years ago
This video isn't funny at all -
because it's true.
tedrockwell 3 years ago
An Editor friend of mine sent this to me yesterday.... I nearly died! I am a Designer for a large company and this video nailed my life right on the button! So sad that this is the reality for creative people! This is brilliant on all levels. This video should be part of all aspiring Designer's college education...... but, wait. We may run out of Designers if they all this! LOL!
darling67 3 years ago 6
Soooo Truuuuue!!!!
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imabadspelor 3 years ago
Advertising would be the greatest industry in the world... if it weren't for the clients.
WinkDallas 3 years ago
I'm not the only one dealing with stuff like this? Thank GOD!
TPMaloney80 3 years ago
The amazing thing is--this isn't an exageration.
johnvos 3 years ago
A great "spot-on" parody of the real-life mindless twits that inhabit the marketing world; been there, got out.
hilodaveg955 3 years ago
This sounds almost exactly like the conference call I just transcribed. Good grief!
Centennialite 3 years ago
That blond is freaking hot.
drugsandvomit 3 years ago
This video is priceless. It's not satire - it's a dramatization of what creatives go through on a daily basis.
j5356972 3 years ago 4
I would love to know where this video came from. This is one of my favorite videos on youtube ever. It is the SHIZNIT.
crazyjeremy 3 years ago
How many of us live this life, and how can we get the useless management jobs?
captainarchernx01 3 years ago
OMG! Someone must be watching me! That is SOOO my life! Hysterical!
PRPRYNCESS 3 years ago
This video isn't a joke, it's my life. Work as an in-house creative for a large company and sadly this video is a reality.
jcrbama 3 years ago 8
Same here brother,
rowedahelicon 3 years ago 2
lol
BestFriendsEternity 3 years ago