@GermanEfficiency Well that may have been on France's mind but the UK really doesn't care all that much. If we in the UK had it our way we would have left the EU by now, two prime ministers in a row have now promised a vote on the EU during their election campaigns and have gone back on it when they have come to power. Namely Gordon Brown and David Cameron
As for me personally in or out of the EU I don't really care, but a vote is needed. I agree, Germany is capable of building a large military
@GermanEfficiency The EU has done hardly anything to create its own defense or security force so France and the UK (the only serious military powers in Europe) saw fit to pool their resources together. I don't see anything wrong with that, maybe your being a little oversensitive
World War One mutinous members of the French Army let down the British & Commonwealth forces in Flanders. Battle of Trafalgar they did a runner leaving it to the Spanish who at least put up a fight. Together the British and German armed forces would be the most efficient fighting force the planet has ever known and our politicians have decided we can trust the French this time when the next crises occurs. Something stinks somewhere as nobody in Britain wants or trusts the French as Allies.
In 1939 France had a large modern military force. They refused to utilise their Airforce & left it to the RAF. Their surrendered to the Germans after just 6 weeks of fighting leaving the British cut off at Dunkirk. Once the Germans beat the French the British firmly requested they sail their Navy to British ports so the Nazis could not double their own Navy in size. The French who were supposed to be our Allies refused, so the British had to sink their Navy in French ports. Dont we ever learn ?
France: active army - 352 000, military expenditures 67 billion $, 300 nuclear warheads;
UK: active army - 175 000, military expenditures 69 billion $, 225 nuclear warheads;
Germany: active army - 250 000, military expenditures 48 billion $, 0 nuclear warheads.
I dont think UK and France have to worry about Germany. But its bad for Europe's position in the world that Germany has ridiculously small and low-funded army. Europe and the world needs stronger and more resolved Germany.
They - like Austria - have still many military restrictions. We are not allowed to have missiles, have ABC weapons and so on. Germany is surrounded by allies and nobody wants to make war with them, so I don't care.
Bad for the position of Europe is that they do not speak with one voice and that they support the US in very idiotic wars, that no European wants
This is ridiculous. Germany will always remain member of the NATO and an ally to France and the UK, so no one has to "balance" the "powerful" Germans.
Actually this military deal is not against Germany. It's mainly to slash the costs of military spendings on both sides, for example nuclear weapons maintenance.
@orosztigris You idiot. Bless this alliance? This is the beginning of the dissolution of individual European nations, and the beginning of A European state. Your rights will disolve along with Britain. Just look at the implications of the Lisbon treaty. You have no rights, you can be banged up for six months without trial.
All South Eastern European EU country going to support the new Franco-Anglo treaty which can protect our nations against the aggressive Germ-an banks!
@chrissblack22 If you looking for popularity go back to the nazi israel and hang yourself in East Jerusalem you zionist nazi bitch or do the same in the nazi Berlin. Thank you.
@Anitinacista When the Hungarian EU presidency going to give a full EU membership to the brotherly Turkey next year, then all bloody germ-an nazi shit go to hell.
It is so funny, how only Germany gets blamed for Nazi crimes. The Hungarian Horvathy regime was antifascist resistance in your mind?^^
Hungary cannot give any membership, study the EU institutions before talking rubbish. More than 30% of the Hungarian exports go to Germany, the second next trading partner is Austria with 8%.
However, I assume you are an ignorant Hungarian, who thinks that Turks and Hungarians have common ancestors...*facepalm*
@AustrianAtheist Hitler Adolph was a bloody Austro-German-khazar jew, who is received huge amount of money from the germ-an zionists for do the job. This is only the nazi Germany falt and not any other Europen country what the zion nazi Hitler brutaly occupied.
Hungary was fascist as well and today Hungary is one of the most racist countries. Jobbik just shows how retarded you are.
The nonsense about jewish-nazi-zionists shows, how uneducated you are. The jews funded Hitler to kill them? Wtf? Why are we Austrians always called racists, when East Europe is full with morons like you??
@AustrianAtheist First of all fasism is Italian product you stupid austrozionnazi moron .... secondly Hitler was an Austrozionnazi like you .... so nazism is your product you germ-an khazar nazi polecat
It'll be nice working with some proper villains again.
RelaxItsJustAFlare 2 days ago
A deal that the UK will greatly regret.
Cloyde100 2 weeks ago
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rosstcorbett 6 months ago
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rosstcorbett 6 months ago
why is cameron caring a rose???
meProudToBeCaucasian 7 months ago
@meProudToBeCaucasian Cameron is wearing a poppy it's worn during rememberance for the british that have fallen in wars.
Jools3639 7 months ago
@GermanEfficiency Well that may have been on France's mind but the UK really doesn't care all that much. If we in the UK had it our way we would have left the EU by now, two prime ministers in a row have now promised a vote on the EU during their election campaigns and have gone back on it when they have come to power. Namely Gordon Brown and David Cameron
As for me personally in or out of the EU I don't really care, but a vote is needed. I agree, Germany is capable of building a large military
Gurn92 10 months ago
@Gurn92 Germans are like the Orc's out of LOTR, they'll never win.
Talbot6832 2 months ago
France are they still fear German?
100kidane 11 months ago
@100kidane never forget
sabaton1231 11 months ago
@GermanEfficiency The EU has done hardly anything to create its own defense or security force so France and the UK (the only serious military powers in Europe) saw fit to pool their resources together. I don't see anything wrong with that, maybe your being a little oversensitive
Gurn92 1 year ago
@GermanEfficiency the only MORON here is you .... think about it ... and shame on you ...
kekvirag1 1 year ago
@GermanEfficiency Oh thanks, that is not at all insulting
Gurn92 1 year ago
@1234567loading My point wasnt to claim that French have stronger military then UK. If my collation hurted your patriotic feelings, i apologize.
janustinus 1 year ago
@GermanEfficiency you better wait until france gets the new president
1234567loading 1 year ago
World War One mutinous members of the French Army let down the British & Commonwealth forces in Flanders. Battle of Trafalgar they did a runner leaving it to the Spanish who at least put up a fight. Together the British and German armed forces would be the most efficient fighting force the planet has ever known and our politicians have decided we can trust the French this time when the next crises occurs. Something stinks somewhere as nobody in Britain wants or trusts the French as Allies.
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
In 1939 France had a large modern military force. They refused to utilise their Airforce & left it to the RAF. Their surrendered to the Germans after just 6 weeks of fighting leaving the British cut off at Dunkirk. Once the Germans beat the French the British firmly requested they sail their Navy to British ports so the Nazis could not double their own Navy in size. The French who were supposed to be our Allies refused, so the British had to sink their Navy in French ports. Dont we ever learn ?
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
France: active army - 352 000, military expenditures 67 billion $, 300 nuclear warheads;
UK: active army - 175 000, military expenditures 69 billion $, 225 nuclear warheads;
Germany: active army - 250 000, military expenditures 48 billion $, 0 nuclear warheads.
I dont think UK and France have to worry about Germany. But its bad for Europe's position in the world that Germany has ridiculously small and low-funded army. Europe and the world needs stronger and more resolved Germany.
janustinus 1 year ago
They - like Austria - have still many military restrictions. We are not allowed to have missiles, have ABC weapons and so on. Germany is surrounded by allies and nobody wants to make war with them, so I don't care.
Bad for the position of Europe is that they do not speak with one voice and that they support the US in very idiotic wars, that no European wants
AustrianAtheist 1 year ago
@janustinus France: 867 aircraft, 81 ships, Nuclear missile range 4970 miles
UK: 1,114 aircraft, 105 ships, Nuclear missile range 8100 miles
1234567loading 1 year ago
@1234567loading OH YEAH
sabaton1231 11 months ago
This is ridiculous. Germany will always remain member of the NATO and an ally to France and the UK, so no one has to "balance" the "powerful" Germans.
Actually this military deal is not against Germany. It's mainly to slash the costs of military spendings on both sides, for example nuclear weapons maintenance.
Lintflas 1 year ago
The zion-nazis fought in Hitler jewish army as volunteers. They was bloody germ-an zionist and nazis.
kekvirag1 1 year ago
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kekvirag, put your face up your fat ass, you fucking jewish whore
chrissblack22 1 year ago
God bless the UK Queen and the new France and British axis of alliance.
orosztigris 1 year ago 24
@orosztigris You idiot. Bless this alliance? This is the beginning of the dissolution of individual European nations, and the beginning of A European state. Your rights will disolve along with Britain. Just look at the implications of the Lisbon treaty. You have no rights, you can be banged up for six months without trial.
w0y1z92753 10 months ago
All South Eastern European EU country going to support the new Franco-Anglo treaty which can protect our nations against the aggressive Germ-an banks!
kekvirag1 1 year ago 13
kekvirag, you're a fucking jewish virgin bitch
chrissblack22 1 year ago
@chrissblack22 go to hell you germ-an nazi shit
kekvirag1 1 year ago
@chrissblack22 Why do not suck your germ-an zionist nazi father deeply ? Go and do it.... you fucking nazi male bitch.
orosztigris 1 year ago
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@orosztigris
because you suck him even now, you bitch, there is not place yet
chrissblack22 1 year ago
@chrissblack22 If you looking for popularity go back to the nazi israel and hang yourself in East Jerusalem you zionist nazi bitch or do the same in the nazi Berlin. Thank you.
Anitinacista 1 year ago 2
@Anitinacista Do not worry too much about chrissblack22, because she/he just a bloody nazi hitler sucker.
kekvirag1 1 year ago
@Anitinacista When the Hungarian EU presidency going to give a full EU membership to the brotherly Turkey next year, then all bloody germ-an nazi shit go to hell.
kekvirag1 1 year ago 3
It is so funny, how only Germany gets blamed for Nazi crimes. The Hungarian Horvathy regime was antifascist resistance in your mind?^^
Hungary cannot give any membership, study the EU institutions before talking rubbish. More than 30% of the Hungarian exports go to Germany, the second next trading partner is Austria with 8%.
However, I assume you are an ignorant Hungarian, who thinks that Turks and Hungarians have common ancestors...*facepalm*
AustrianAtheist 1 year ago
@AustrianAtheist Hitler Adolph was a bloody Austro-German-khazar jew, who is received huge amount of money from the germ-an zionists for do the job. This is only the nazi Germany falt and not any other Europen country what the zion nazi Hitler brutaly occupied.
kekvirag1 1 year ago
Hungary was fascist as well and today Hungary is one of the most racist countries. Jobbik just shows how retarded you are.
The nonsense about jewish-nazi-zionists shows, how uneducated you are. The jews funded Hitler to kill them? Wtf? Why are we Austrians always called racists, when East Europe is full with morons like you??
AustrianAtheist 1 year ago
@AustrianAtheist First of all fasism is Italian product you stupid austrozionnazi moron .... secondly Hitler was an Austrozionnazi like you .... so nazism is your product you germ-an khazar nazi polecat
kekvirag1 1 year ago
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@Anitinacista
suck your fathers dick, and go back to Madagascar
chrissblack22 1 year ago
@Anitinacista zionist nazi?
kashga11 1 year ago
@kashga11 the zionist-nazi is an agent of zionist israel
Anitinacista 1 year ago
@Anitinacista pardon me if im wrong, but arent nazis against zionism?
kashga11 1 year ago
I just love this great deal between France and UK. Good luck.
kekvirag1 1 year ago 3
@kekvirag1
na mi van zsidó szűzkurva, megbasztak már?
chrissblack22 1 year ago
@chrissblack22 only English please you zionist nazi moron
kekvirag1 1 year ago
There are so many joined brigades in the EU, what makes this one special? Talk about overrating...
Teranex 1 year ago
IT is a fine and fitting thing to die for ones pay master,
justjacqueline2004 1 year ago
These US-Stratfor people are overrating everything.
@Germans You must get some nukes too...or you stay the joke of the world...every serious nation has atomic weapons...
AustrianAtheist 1 year ago
Perhaps the question is is France making a wise decision? And what are Germany's long term advantages in staying close to France?
Catholicguy 1 year ago
Wlcome back to XIX/XXth century politics! Peace couldn't last forever...
MarekNR 1 year ago
I wonder if/when Europe breaks-out into war.
b1gr1g 1 year ago
maybe time for the 4th reich? lol
ZeeGooner 1 year ago
@ZeeGooner
What happend to the 3rd ??, and this is between france and UK. Germany can only say reich.
FedayTek 1 year ago
@ZeeGooner
US of A?
MarkoKraguljac 1 year ago
Instead of fantasizing about EU disunity, please do and say something constructive. Why such paranoia about the French, the Russians and others?
Athenaikos 1 year ago
we germans should think about talking to our russian "friends" lol
wiang11 1 year ago
Very interesting points, thank you stratfor.
Provakator 1 year ago
Very interesting...
Prometheukles 1 year ago