Does this golf swing concept explain Ben Hogan's secret

[TheBillygolfs50]

Hogan was double jointed in his wrists. This was the reason behind his search for compensatory movement for his wrists and grip

[axiometer]

@TheBillygolfs50 Hogan dropped the club head sharply down and back at the start of the downswing. That gave the impression from the front on view of an exceptionally small angle between the left arm and the club as though the wrists were double jointed. That effect was also evident in the techniques of Gary Player and Peter Thompson. I believe that Hogan's grip and wrist settings, which are not unusual, evolved intuitively to suit the concept rather than to compenate for double jointed wrists.

[TheBillygolfs50]

This is great stuff. Let me know if your ever going to teach golf schools. I'd love to help.

[axiometer]

@TheBillygolfs50 A video taken some time ago showed that my own swing did not then fit to the concept. After working at the range for several months on corrections to identified faults my shot accuracy and consistency has improved remarkably and a recent video now shows a fit to the concept where it matters in the downswing and sweep-thru-impact phases. I shall soon post a comparison of the two videos with an invitation to subscribe to a discussion and instruction page at my web site.

[RoyDMcAvoy]

Interesting pwrpt. Hammer meets nail re Hogan's shift in center of mass in VJ Trolio's book "Missing Piece to Hogans Swing Puzzle". Not sure a grip is really needed for proper backswing club rotation - you could use a broom, tennis rackets, or Swingfan to learn the essential movement. Now if you've discovered a way to transition TO the downswing, rotating corectly thru the ball I'm all ears. RDM

[OnlineBizClubGuy]

the rotation of the left forearm can be accomplished even before take away (simpler)..this opens the clubface and creates the cup in the left wrist. Also, it gives you more power...Mr. Hogan performed it after the accident on the way back(much more difficult than how I do it) because of his injuries. This is just one of his secrets.

[axiometer]

@OnlineBizClubGuy Hi. Thanks for your comment. It really doesn't matter when the rotation occurs as long as it is before the start of the downswing. Modern masters like Woods, Westwood and Garcia are Hoganesque while others such as Mickelson and Couples do it progessively throughout the backswing. Furick delays it right through the backswing until suddenly in the transition at the top. The left forearm must be backward rotated in the downswing to bring the club head through on plane.

[DASH1ful]

Left forearm rotation does not activate a hinging of the wrist. It only opens the cluface. There is no need for forearm rotation anyway. Shoulder joint rotation provides us with all the rotation we need whilst keeping the cluface square in relation to the swing angle, which will be maintained thru the swing

[axiometer]

Hi!

The club is rotated through approximately 90 degrees in the takeaway from address to the halfway transition.

half of that rotation derives from body turn and the other half comes from left forearm rotation coupled with backward hinging of the right wrist along with some folding of the right elbow.

Backward hinging of the left wrist occurs in conjunction with the forearm rotation in the wrist cocking process (hence Hogan's reference to "cupping" of his left wrist)

[alansmithdc]

Interesting anaylsis of what we see as an observer of Hogan's swing. The only problem is that Hogan never mentioned any of the topics covered in this PowerPoint presentation in his instruction book Five Lessons. However, I admire your intuition and powers of observation.

[DASH1ful]

I think you are right. But also, Hogan did not entirely swing this way. If a player tries to hinge their wrists up it will make the right elbow stick out. Hogan's pointed down, when he started winning. Also he allowed his weight to turn onto his right heel in the backswing. Pressing down with the right foot would prevent this. Hogan's forward movement of his hips, in the backswing, was caused by his wide stance which caused his right leg to angle in towards his body and react against his turn.

[punkjazz1962]

I am very intrigued by your video presentation and I am also very interested in your training aid/device, when do you plan on starting to test your device? Please let me know.

[mwelch22]

How can I find out more about the device?

[axiometer]

Re mwelch22 question:

As stated in the video I intend to produce further videos featuring several novice golfers learning and training with prototypes of the device. Component and functional desciptions will be included.

Training aids which generally deal with only one swing aspect are limited in their effectiveness unless being applied to an otherwise sound technique as with Ben Hogan's left forearm backward roll.

The device deals with all of the essential aspects of an effective swing.