What a dumb socialist anticolonialist idealogue!!! You lie about business. They are not victims waiting for help from you!! They want you to stop taking 35% in corporate taxes, the second highest in the world!! If you wanted to help business, you'd stop the punitive taxes, mandating health care benefits to workers, OSHA, ADA, affirmative action hiring, and all the obstacles the government throws in front of their business! Get off out backs! Revise the tax code on your next bad vacation!
Unfortunately we have a small group of Republican tools that want to continue the practice of class warfare and obstruct anything that may improve the common peoples situation. The parodox is that even though most people know the president didn't cause the financial crisis, they are poised to elect more people who favor the conditions that created it.
I thought we were out of recession? Hmmm. I thought the economy is recovering? You've helped enough. Please stop helping! Repeal all of the legislation created to date and get out of the way.
cooperbry ...if he had allowed almost everything to go bankrupt (especially all those unions) ...and did nothing but lower taxes and drill for more oil (thousands of jobs untapped right there) .......we would be way better off than this mcmess he has edicted onto us all = "summer of recovery" about to go epic *boink*
@memama2 Are you joking or something?? Let's take just one of the economic pillars that Obama saved: the auto-industry. If Obama had let the auto-industry fail, there would be millions more people unemployed from the manufacturing industry alone! That's not including all of the dealerships, auto mechanics, and other dependents on the industry which would go out of business. You really need to think more and talk less.
Garet43 ..every "obama pillar" is full of worm holes & about to drag the entire nation down! When it ALL COLLAPSES BECAUSE OF BAAMA!= If he had allowed the industry to go bankrupt & renegotiate its unsustainable ridiculous rip off "pensions" to the American car buying public & the owners of these companies. We would now be on far more solid ground. Dumping the DEAD UNION WEIGHT off the newly hired workers backs. And it would have reduced car prices & not CO$T U$ TRILLION$ TO PROP UP THO$E LOON$
WARNING - This video by the Obama administration was created and distributed solely for the purpose of propaganda. So please, do not confuse our mindless drones with the real and honest facts about Obama and our administration, and how we are destroying America, as you once knew it.
You forget one thing - Small cos need to have enough business to expand. You can give them access to all the loans you want, but cos are not going to take the money if they don't have enough business to warrant expansion. Instead of expanding, cos are merging together and in many cases, purging employees and expenses. Besides, who would want to start a business right now? If it is too successful, you will find a way to make it evil and then tax and regulate it right out of business. Great plan.
Everybody wish Obama a nice long 10-day vacation on Martha's Vineyard(his 6th vacation this year). Well-deserved. Spending all that tax-payer money & borrowed Chinese money with little to show for it is hard work. PS: Higher taxes yet to come(you raise taxes on one group, they'll pass it on to you!)
I am a chef and owner of a small restaurant and yes small business needs help.
when i started this business back 4 years ago, this mall was full with two vallet guys running around. Our problem was a parking spot.
Now, this mall is half empty(5 units gone, icecream store gone, music store gone, cell phone store gone, and so one. The ones surviving are because of change of ownership. I'm forced to offer cheap with increased cost.10 jobs will be gone. Cut tax cuz Bank will NEVER loan to tiny.
FOX news is entertainment, and a poor source of news. You idiots take their opinions as news, and end up talking delusional BS FEMA camps, death panels, terror babies, gun seizures, succession, When Beck tells you to join a tea party with FOX" that is not reporting news that is advertising and promoting events... FOX is at best tabloid media, but they sell what you want to hear, not news... Hell they make news they dont have any intention of reporting it... Its sad.
@gatewayapartments No one is forcing you to stop. Someone is informing you that by adding the inconsequential and unimportant to OUR Constitutional fight is obstructive. My family from Copenhagen & a descendant of Martin Van Buren, dead & they have their own Gov. You are seriously lost as to how and what rights you (as an American) have and bestowed upon the Fed Gov. You HAD BETTER learn your status at Law, how the Constitution defines this for the Fed Gov and Quickly. Read Federalist Papers...
You sly son of a bitch, your saying this for votes, you will even promise it, just like the help to Arizona. There stll waiting, or was that a bunch of lies also. YOUR A FAILURE. GO AWAY.. America should have a lote better, time for a real President, Time to ask George W. To return.
@helltrackrider Why don't you stuff a copy of the constitution up your ass? Since your head is already there it will be easier for you to refer to it.
Ignorant fucks like you and Obama - and essentially all of Congress - are the reason America is fucked up today...
Look how well Fascism turned out in Italy and Germany you fucktard, now...we have it here and all you can run your trap about is "Democrats" did this and "Republicans" did that...news flash...BOTH parties for the past 100 years HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THE SPIRIT OF THE US CONSTITUTION...
We are a Nation of Laws, not a Democracy...Ignorant fuck.
@helltrackrider Your pathetic worship of the constitution like some pagan idol is too pathetic.
If anything is unconstitutional the courts will disallow it. If the judicial branch says it is constitutional, then GOP were just yanking your chain with bullshit rhetoric because they couldn't argue on any rational factual basis.
As to why the U.S. is in trouble, the list is as long as your arm. But I don't have time to educate you and you are too stupid to do your own research.
Yep...you are right, you know it all...you are a wise, intellectual Progressive.
I am no member of the GOP, nor do i pander to the GOP...hell, the GOP doesnt even and hasnt followed the Constitution either (Nixon-Reagan-Bush-etc)
I am fully aware as to why the US is in shambles politically and economically, as are many many other common sense minded individuals - but, you will never hear anything but Keynesians and Politicians preaching how to fix things...with no result
No... the "Progressive" movement was a real ideological movement; unfortunately Glenn Beck is right on this --- I dont care for Beck, nor his simplistic books --- read half and almost vomitted at the third grade writing level.
It may sound good in principle, hell...it may actually be good (doubtful)...but the fact remains...the Federal Government CANNOT do it...read your American history...the Constitution is the LAW, these fuckwads in office are BREAKING THE LAW with EVERY vote.
So...inform me as to HOW the taking of ones PRIVATE PROPERTY (income taxation) is Constitutional - even though the Progressive Courts of FDR and Wilson upheld it?...I mean, it is after all theft without due process.
Also, what about the drafting (involuntary servitude) of soldiers during WWI and WWII upheld by the SAME courts?..or the price controls during the same era's upheld by the SAME courts?..all these are Constitutional as well?..you need to educate yourself it seems.
@megarational - I was a Republican until a few years ago, now I'm an Independent and Yes, I have on occasion voted for Democrats unlike most Democrats who are knee jerk liberals never crossing party lines! Do you know anybody like that? Sure you do, your whole fucking party is like that! I sat the last Presidential election out because I knew McCain was wrong for the country and Chairman Zero is hardly even an American in my opinion!
@StompingRabbits Wrong. I supported Obama because I supported his policies:
- reducing dependence on foreign oil
- ending the tax cuts for the rich
- saving $63 billion per yr. by cutting banks out as unnecessary middlemen in student loans, increasing PELL grants, & making student loan repayment terms more flexible
- SCHIP expansion extending h.c. coverage to millions of children of low income families
- h.c. reform extending coverage to millions more & ending the worst insur. co abuses
@megarational - Good for you, I didn't vote for him because he's a lying Communist prick who was probably born in Kenya. For crying out loud, what the fuck is the big deal about releasing a real birth certificate? That COLB certificate is as phony as the day is long! I don't like the idea of a Kenyan Muslim with a narcissistic psychological disorder being the President! Screw off or show me a REAL Hawaiian birth certificate!
- financial system reform, re instituting common sense regulations, and ending the worst of the credit card co. abuses
- an end to the confrontational "cowboy" approach to foreign policy & diplomacy
- concentration on the nations decaying infrastructure
By contrast, I was totally against the policies (or lack thereof) of the GOP, which is "tax cuts for the rich and no regulations for private industry".
Again, do you favor their primary solution of borrowing more money for tax cuts for the rich?
(you never did answer that question)
Do you agree with their "trickle down" economic philosophy, which is "give more and more to those with the most and we will all be better off because it will "trickle down"?
Do you believe tax cuts for the rich do more to stimulate demand than, say, extension of unemployment benefits?
I own a couple small businesses. I WOULD NOT GET A LOAN ever again from the SBA or any branch of this Despotic regime. I'm suing to get my home back from the banko-terrorists who have been paid several times over on FRACTIONAL RESERVE MONEY that our labor is then taxed to pay the interest on...
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OBAMA or BUSHY baby boy are FINANCIAL TERRORISTS. They will rape you while you are drowning then throw you an anvil. Long live the Republic!
Read Row v Wade. Read any supreme court ruling that is purported to have an effect on you by the media & you will notice something really strange. So strange you just maybe might go out and start buying your entire neighborhood guns, Ammo and Food...
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Wiwi 5th Amendment... Wiki 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment was enacted after the civil war. Lincoln was losing and did the emancipation proclamation to screw the souths war effort. Now they won, all State's closed off citizenship for the blacks
for the freed slaves. So what to dh Ammo? All that needed to be done is edit some of the State Const, NOT THE FEDERAL. But with Lincoln having congress adjourn "Sine die" ended our const. They "Inc'd" the bill of rights into todays Const, & they think the 14th Amend is what our Citizenship is (and is) if you do not call them on it. "RAP Restore America"
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If "Due Process" is so key in the 14th, why is it in the 5th? "SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF" Not sovereign state citizens (FRAUD)...
@gatewayapartments If you are not IN AMERICA, STAY OUT of our buildup to Revolution II. Idiots like you & your worthless opinions confuse the ignorant among us.
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What you described is ignorance. BUSH & OBAMA blame the "system". NOTHING FAILED. Since 1913 the Capitalist system was slowly destroyed all while pitting left against right and dumbing down everyone by hijacking the schools. "WE" could fix this in a matter of hours, restore the Constitution and END THE FED Banko-Terrorist's!
What "Taxes" can you cut when you raped us all by paying for our homes upwards of 3 to 4 times in bailing out Insurance and banking companies. You say TARP is returned and yet I see no indication that the Trillion has been burned/destroyed. Now, you go flapping your jaw trying to get even more people in bed with the FRACTIONAL RESERVE (debtors) banking SCAM OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE CARTEL of Banko-TERRORISTS!
If the democrats would take the 30 billion in pork that they attached to the bill out of the bill it would not be blocked. It was pulled and the Republicans allowed it up but then Reid put the 30 billion dollars of pork back in and it was blocked again. It is the dems that are playing games and it is with OUR TAX DOLLARS.
@specialks1953 Every congressman can buy votes and campaign contributions based largely on how much federal money they can suck back to their district. So your gov.t will always be run by piranhas in a feeding frenzy.
The tragedy is that so much of the pop. sees government spending as an "incumbent" problem or a "republican versus democrat" problem, whereas a large part of the problem is the political system itself. It won't change until you change the system.
@specialks1953 You will always have governments (of whatever party) that represent the interests of unions, corporations, and moneyed special interests ahead of the interests of common citizens until you remove the power of money over the political and election systems.
@StompingRabbits I don't even know what you mean by communists. If you are going off of Glenn Beck's definition than pretty much the whole world save the US and maybe Japan is communist. I recently traveled to China and I can not describe to you the confusion that people there feel when they see people like you describe our president as a commie. Let's make this perfectly clear: Obama is no more a communist than Bush was a fascist.
Garet43 ..."the confusion of the japanese" = ....about Obama bein a commie? THOSE GOOBS "thought" that they could bomb Pearl Harbor and win a world for their pathetic sneaky evil efforts! Luckily we had men with backbone and rational thinking to "inflict" a message (*kaboom*) on em that stopped their insanity. So they need a little help to figure out what kinda shape-shifter Obama is? Go back to Japan and tell em to watch new YouTube : "Born in the U.S.A." : Factcheck's photo forgery on film
@Garet43 - Really? My heart goes out the the confused Chinese however that doesn't change the fact that Obama's father who never loved him was a Commie. The fact that his childhood mentor was a member of the Communist Party USA. I think his mother was likely a Communist and that as President he has loaded the White House to the gills with Communist czars like Van Jones, Anita Dunn, Robert Bauer and Valerie Jarret. Let's make this perfectly clear: There is a mountain of evidence supporting this
First, you should be honest. Obama is for letting the Bush tax cuts expire only for those making more than $200K. Did you not know that? Or were you trying to be deceptive?
Second, it's a total fallacy that giving more money to the rich will stimulate jobs more than using that money for targeted spending such as increasing unemployment benefits.
@megarational Who do you think creates most of the jobs? People making less than $200,000? I guess it's natural to hate someone who makes more than you but if your trying to create jobs and fix the economy it's time to face facts.
LOL are trying to tell me unemployment benefits create jobs?? LOL So your taking money from the people creating jobs or employed to keep others in poverty. Haven't we extended unemployment twice since Obama has been in office? Where are the jobs.
@Mostdef As a matter of fact, during periods of stagnating demand rich corporations & individual employers tend to close factories and lay off workers.
It's not lack of money that stops them. It's lack of demand. They will not create jobs or open factories out of a charitable desire to help.
@megarational Why would you have intentions to grow your company in this climate? The government is spending money like crazy and the group in charge intends to pay for the spending with tax increases. Why make an investment you won't be able to afford in the coming months?
@Mostdef 1) once again you refer to tax cuts, again deceptively avoiding the fact that Obama wants to eliminate tax cuts for only those with incomes above $200K.
Even in those upper incomes a tax cut has a stimulus effect. However no one other than GOP politicians will try to tell you that the stimulus is as much as is the case where that money is used for targeted spending.
As for "redistribution" - that red herring has already been dealt with in some detail in successive comments later on.
@megarational I haven't avoided anything. I think your avoiding or not acknowledging people over $200K are creating the jobs. The stimulus effect is more government spending which is unsustainable.
Redistribution is a red herring? Where do you think the government is getting the money?
@megarational Your interpretation of the census implies a certain salary determines whether your rich or poor. A standard of living determines rich or poor. What you call poor is considered rich in other countries. If someone makes more money than me it doesn't I must live in poverty.
@megarational That still doesn't change my point. It sounds like the pot is calling the kettle black. I can afford everything I need and most of what I want under $200K or whatever is considered rich.
@Mostdef Fareed ZalarwIa “If economy needs more stimulus extend unemployment benefits anther yr. It’s a temp measure & the money will get spent. Those benefits work because they go to people who are living paycheck to paycheck & they spend the money. By contrast we had 3 tax cuts since the economy slumped, 2 under Bush & 1 under Obama & in all 3 cases people saved the money instead of spending it.”
@megarational Once again, where is the money coming from? People who create jobs. In the stimulus bill everyone under $250K got tax credits. Just enough so you wouldn't notice and spend but we have seen no improvement. Stimulus didn't work under Bush and it won't work under Obama.
@megarational Once again why would you invest in this climate knowing what the democrats have planned? We now know the stimulus hasn't worked. I doubt it but one reason could be because they haven't even spent half of the money yet.
@megarational I've said already and since Youtube puts a limit on characters and I figured you were paying attention I didn't type it again. More spending and higher taxes. Surely you don't take someone serious on reducing debt after they've tripled the deficit. The reason republicans probably refused is because people like you later on say it was bipartisan and so the blame should be shared. We've seen this trick over and over the past two years. Attach one RINO to a bill and it's "bipartisan"
@Mostdef It's demand that stimulates the economy and creates demand. A rich person or corporation will not build a widget factory if there is no demand for widgets. On the other hand, if the demand is there some bus. or entrepreneur will build the factory even if they have to borrow money to do so. (That's one reason for the financial institutions bailouts - to prevent even further collapse of the credit availability) .
@Mostdef An extra dollar in the hands of someone at lower income stimulates demand more than an extra dollar in the hands of someone at a higher income for the simple reason that the person at lower income spends more of each dollar, spends it almost immediately, and spends in all domestically.
By contrast, the rich will save some, invest some overseas, play the stock market or engage in real estate speculation for capital gains - & that does not create jobs.
"I am very much in favor of tax cuts, but not with borrowed money. The problem we have gotten into in recent years is spending programs with borrowed money, and tax cuts with borrowed money and at the end of the day that proves disasterous."
Interviewer:
"So you do not agree with Republican leaders who say tax cuts pay for themselves?"
@megarational Alan Greenspan is not the end all be all of economics. Also him and Bush weren't exactly fiscally conservative. Obama is probably ten times worse but they clearly made mistakes.
@megarational I know Wikipedia isn't a perfect source but they have him listed as a Republican and he was nominated to the Fed by Ronald Reagan. In that same interview you reference the left wing, Meet The Press host, David Gregory even said "Dr. Greenspan, it's not often you hear Democrats and liberals quoting you..."
@Mostdef He has served under both Republican and Democrat administrations precisely because he has the respect of both and is non-partisan non-political in economic analysis.
@megarational That is your assumption. He was appointed by Bill Clinton which showed his respect for Greenspan not the other way around because once appointed and confirmed the president has no say over the policies of the chairman of the fed.
@megarational I looked up the interview you quoted and found this:
Judy Woodruff: So to those interests who say but wait a minute, if you let these taxes go my taxes go up, it is going to depress growth?
Dr. Greenspan: Yes, it probably , but I think we have no choice in doing that, because we have to recognize there are no solutions which are optimum. These are choices between band and worse.
Greenspan is advocating paying down debt not economic growth
@Mostdef If the economy were allowed to go into another great depression, the debt would also increase since there would be even fewer jobs, therefor more spending on social safety nets, and also less tax revenue.
There is no silver bullet. But tax cuts for the rich at this time is lunacy.
Fareed Zakarwia, in the same segment as my comment with the quote from him regarding previous tax cuts, also graphically showed that the unfunded Bush tax cuts alone account for 30% of the deficit.
@Mostdef Besides, you don't pay down debt by borrowing money to extend tax cuts to the rich.
As for the stimulus spending, most economists, even under Bush, believe that stimulus spending was necessary to prevent another "great depression" with unemployment rates possibly exceeding 20%. .
Naturally, you won't hear that on Fox Fiction or from Republican politicians.
@Mostdef Jobs will return under Republicans? They already had control for 8 years, including 6 1/2 where they had control of both houses, and by the end of their disastrous administration the nation was hemorrhaging 3/4 of a million jobs every month. Their policies haven't changed.
The idiocy is giving them power again, to peruse the same policies and expecting a different result.
@Mostdef The GOP had the Presidency for 8 years & control of congress for 6 1/2 years, during which the Bush/GOP domestic & foreign policies were passed & implemented. .
And you are yapping about the Dem's control of congress for 1 1/2 years?
I can detail the GOP legislation that passed & contributed to the crisis the nation found itself in.
Can you detail anything the Dem congress did in the 1 1/2 years that contributed to the mess?
megarational says "can you detail anything the DEM (DIM) congress did in the 1 1/2 years that contributed to the mess"? ..ANSWER: ..not hold secret DIM only obama dog and pony shows behind closed doors woulda been a real good start
Most Americans are saying that the Bush tax cuts should end for both the middle class, as well as the wealthy to boost consumer demand!! In the long run, this will bring more revenue, which our government desperately needs right now to run the country!! The extra revenue will enable President Obama to create more jobs!!
When He took office, it would have been a good thing if Democrats had repealed the bush tax cuts!! Most all Americans seem to believe that letting them expire is the 2nd best thing!!
Todays jobs bill is so vitally important, why does President Obama just make it an executive order? The repubicans would stoop at hurting the country in order to cause President Obama to look like a failure!!
@zonie1953 Just an FYI, they say that he is on "vacation" as much as they can to piss you off... They need this Nation divided and hating one another for their system to work... Don't let the bastards under your skin. They will, get theirs in the end. When the end the dollar world wide and play the marshal law game with H1N400 or whatever they are going to do... They will get theirs. The gulf was an Asphalt Volcano... Research it.
This is the first time I have seen a politician sticking up for small business including getting loans. Good on USA for foresight. May be Australia could copy this.
@gatewayapartments Agreed. It took President Reagan some time to pull America from the Carter depression! I have been eagerly waiting on Obama to fix the Capitalism problem with his Socialist agenda. It sure has taken him more than a day, just like it took Rome. Socialism has worked so well in Europe, I am sure it will do the same for us.
Obama, dude, you have majorities in BOTH houses! If you can't get the votes to pass this reform or convince your own party that America needs more socialist spending agendas, how in the world are you going to convince us "right wingers" that it will? Stop blaming everyone but yourself. You were elected over 2 years ago! Remember, the "buck stops with me"? Time to fess up big guy! You wanted the job, you got it!
@fenton1017 FOX news is entertainment, and a poor source of news. You idiots take their opinions as news, and end up talking delusional BS FEMA camps, death panels, terror babies, gun seizures, succession, When Beck tells you to join a tea party with FOX" that is not reporting news that is advertising and promoting events... FOX is at best tabloid media, but they sell what you want to hear, not news... Hell they make news they dont have any intention of reporting it... Its sad.
A jobs bill? LOL... Gee, I hope this time at least ONE job will be created! What happenned to the stimulus bill? I guess alot of people got rich but no jobs eh? So you started out with 8% unemeployment and it's now 10%. Nice job! That was a pun. Only govt jobs were ever created and they were temporary. We all know govt jobs are a drain, not an economic plus. You have been a miserable failure and here you are so proud of yourself! Why because if people suffer that's cool, you hate capitalism!
@fumiohuang .... Like a duck following your flock, I'm sure you do. What about the previous 7.5 years of Bush where it was below 5%? What about your lovely democrat congress the last few years that Bush was president? What, I can't hear you. What about the economy killer fannie mae and freddie mac whom democrats created and ran that was the breaking point? What about Obama started at 8% unemployment and its now 10%? You seem to have amnesia about all that eh? Typical liberal drone! LOL
@aSingleDallasGuy - How can you possibly fault Obama for the unemployment rate? He came into office at the start of a landslide recession that began during the Bush administration. Now, the bill he's trying to pass to HELP the unemployment rate is being blocked by the conservative minority! Go ahead and point fingers, but yours is pointing 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
@HeyDuffy459 .... Are you serious? How about he has been president going on 2 years now? When Bush inherited a rescession from Clinton's dot com bust he quickly disposed of it with tax cuts. The reason you may not remember that rescession is because Bush made it go away with SMART economic policy. Isn't that a good sign when you can't remember a rescession? Yet, here you are going on 2 years with a disaster for an economic policy and you cant see the jungle because the trees are in you way! LOL
@HeyDuffy459 .... What an Obama lover! Geez! The republicans are at fault? I got news for you idiot, the republicans can't stop anything the democrats want. The democrats have enough voters to pass anything they want and have. You can see the results! God help us! So, here you are blaming Bush and republicans because your god-like president has been a disaster! Fortunately, those of us with common sense can put 2 + 2 together dispite your stupid rhetoric.
@aSingleDallasGuy - I'm not an Obama lover. I am, however, strongly opposed to legislators who play party politics on bills like this that are clearly beneficial. It's interesting that you think anyone in support of even a single position by the administration considers Obama to be "god-like". Typical of a conservative to see things only in black and white like that. And to throw around religious innuendos.
@HeyDuffy459 You chose to disparage something you know nothing about. Did you know that just 15 years ago and on back in history that most Democrats considered themselves "Conservative Democrats". You are getting Republican and Conservative mixed up.
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Also, it is NEVER a good idea to let this (Be it left or right) Government DO ANYTHING. They are despotic and a cabal working against us all. By secret contracts and hidden "rights" they are fraudulently removing our rights. Study the RAP
@473009723 - Are you suggesting that most Republicans are NOT conservative? I don't care about in the past. I'm talking about the Republicans in office in modern times.
@HeyDuffy459 Sweetheart, I have absolutely no problem admitting when I have been wrong. If you notice ,my posts are (yes) a little bit angry, but I'm slamming forlks to wake them up to the fact that BOTH SIDES are in this thing together. If you believe that any of the truly Conservative folks in our past would have voted for anything that these frauds, despots and traitors would vote for you must be mistaken. They waited till the WW! and WWII gens have all but left us to begin their push to NWO
@HeyDuffy459 and now to answer your question, NO, not a single one of them but maybe (So far it's looking good) Ron Paul. But as this is our Nations Sovereignty I am careful and will not announce that he is safe. But Duffy, turn off the TV. Both R & D are propaganda machines lulling you to sleep.
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.By secret contract (fraud) these fools believe they can lump us into 14th Amend SUBJECT CLASS citizenship. By eliminating the State, merging it with Federal. Pathetic Bush-Obama-Traders w/theEnemy
@fumiohuang Yeah because the Democrats who have controlled congress for 12 years had nothing to do with it since President Bush was all powerful. LOL lame dude really lame ! Do you even realize how much of the public is laughing at you libtards continuing to blame Bush ? Even the late night comics are laughing at you, or are you really that far out of touch with the public view ? LOL
So what you're saying Mr. President is that those that have a dissenting opinion should just shut up and go along with a bill they disagree with... right?
@joshpnw - Those with a dissenting opinion should be able to articulate why their opinion reflects the desire and interests of their constituents. The dissenters have failed to do so in any reasonable fashion. It's simply another instance of a failing Republican party trying to block yet another bill that will help this country, just to try and make the administration look bad.
@HeyDuffy459 Maybe they should, but in the end that's up to the constituents to decide. If they don't feel properly represented, then they can vote them out. And don't talk down to the Republicans as if the Democrats have never used parliamentary procedures to stop legislation they didn't agree with... it's a rule afforded and used by both parties.
This admin doesn't need help looking bad... they're doing fine on their own.
@hobo59 - Mr President just addressed the country on an issue that he realizes is critical to bolstering our economy. I didn't hear any crickets. Maybe some background chatter from partisan conservatives trying to prevent the administration from making progress.
@jinwo0 Thanks for.... * the record unemployment? * allowing the bail-out boys in gov to get bigger and buy out their competition? * the continual leeching off the middle-class * the wars and cushy defence contract deals for the boys in the white house? * the eroded civil liberties? * the unwinnable wars * the innocent dead * lying about bringing the troops home 'immediately' * lying about never putting your financial donors in the White House * all the propaganda Yeah, thanks!
@interwebbist i suppose there are a lot of problems that obama has to handle and fix. but whether or not you and i believe there are other ways to go about it, i believe you're a bit hasty in your reaction to our president's decisions. I believe presidency comes with streamlining problems and it takes time to mend and break problems.
Your statements are a bit bias and fallacious. Not enough room in youtube to debate it all.
Eventually the Republicans are going to get sick of the radical obstructionists who have taken over their party, and they will elect people who can work with Obama, at least on issues like this. I'm already seeing moderate Republicans (like Florida's Charlie Christ) shift Independent and actually lead the polls. If the Republicans won't stop obstructing, the American people will hold them accountable.
@gatewayapartments It never ceases to amaze me that people expected Obama to just wave a magic wand and it'd all be better. Change takes time and the rotten system that GWB left will take time to turn around.
It will never turn around as long as Obama takes orders from Wall Street. Look at who is working for him (who he chose) and see where his loyalties are. Look at every lie & watered-down change.
People have every right to expect an end to Obama's DISINFORMATION campaign.
Guys like Peter Schiff (who predicted the financial crisis years in advance) and Gerald Celente (trends forecaster) see The Greatest Depression forming, so prepare yourself or lose at the hands of his propaganda.
Personally, I think that this small business bill will help a lot of people have family income again, which is essential to maintain American values.
The second important agenda is to set up the export council, which helps small business to obtain earning from oversea country. The money from 66 billion world's population will always a winning ticket.
@StompingRabbits If the Republicans get back in its ordinary working citizens & the nation that will be fucked.
They ran the car into the ditch when they were in office, they have no new ideas or policies, so you want to lend the car to them again?
They have always won elections on lies, fear tactics, slandering the opposition, using labels and slogans instead of intelligent debate. Unfortunately, it works all to well on fools like you.
@megarational - I know that the Republicans are mean old greedy men who couldn't give a flying fuck about average Joe not being able to exist. With that said, I'm also not too pleased with the Extreme left Marxists crowd led by Chairman Zero. If you lefties have your way we'll be paying Bangladesh because they got flooded and Al Gore insists it was due to "global warming." Take your carbon credits and your Che T-shirt and shove them up your asses. This time the Republicans are the lesser evil!
@megarational - You useless Marxist pricks have been driving for the last 18 months when you aren't too busy apologizing to the Allah Akbar crowd. What have we to show for it? Not a fucking thing and you're about to really get your clocks cleaned in the Mid terms!
Marxism isn't a "new policy" dipshit! Chairman Zero couldn't run a hamburger stand, he has absolutely no executive experience and you jerk offs made him President?
@StompingRabbits You're really confused when you blame the mess of American politics on those of us who actually are socialist. The conflict between two capitalist parties may be very entertaining, but we're not part of it. Pretending that we are is just a sad mechanism by which the existing system protects itself from real change. If one of us ever were in high office, you wouldn't need to do guesswork as if it's one of us. You'd know it. We're not dems or repubs, and we don't skulk in the dark
@megarational - On the topic of vacuous slogans and labels and slander... What the fucking hell do you call the "Yes, we can" and "CHANGE" slogans? They were nothing if not totally vacuous! Lies?? Like the lie that Chairman Zero was born in Hawaii? Fear Tactics, you mean global warming? Intelligent debate? You mean like Chairman Zero taking pot shots at private citizen Rush Limbaugh and then declining on Rush's offer to debate? Oh Pleeeease! Slander, like what you're doing to Sarah Palin?
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I like the way you presented this information in your video #UN#, quite engaging for the audience. More people need to make videos like this!
startupbuildervideos 3 months ago
oh its obama again.
lashadoser 5 months ago
What a dumb socialist anticolonialist idealogue!!! You lie about business. They are not victims waiting for help from you!! They want you to stop taking 35% in corporate taxes, the second highest in the world!! If you wanted to help business, you'd stop the punitive taxes, mandating health care benefits to workers, OSHA, ADA, affirmative action hiring, and all the obstacles the government throws in front of their business! Get off out backs! Revise the tax code on your next bad vacation!
JoeyFudd 1 year ago
Unfortunately we have a small group of Republican tools that want to continue the practice of class warfare and obstruct anything that may improve the common peoples situation. The parodox is that even though most people know the president didn't cause the financial crisis, they are poised to elect more people who favor the conditions that created it.
SteelMartini 1 year ago
I thought we were out of recession? Hmmm. I thought the economy is recovering? You've helped enough. Please stop helping! Repeal all of the legislation created to date and get out of the way.
cooperbry 1 year ago
cooperbry ...if he had allowed almost everything to go bankrupt (especially all those unions) ...and did nothing but lower taxes and drill for more oil (thousands of jobs untapped right there) .......we would be way better off than this mcmess he has edicted onto us all = "summer of recovery" about to go epic *boink*
memama2 1 year ago
@memama2 Are you joking or something?? Let's take just one of the economic pillars that Obama saved: the auto-industry. If Obama had let the auto-industry fail, there would be millions more people unemployed from the manufacturing industry alone! That's not including all of the dealerships, auto mechanics, and other dependents on the industry which would go out of business. You really need to think more and talk less.
Garet43 1 year ago
Garet43 ..every "obama pillar" is full of worm holes & about to drag the entire nation down! When it ALL COLLAPSES BECAUSE OF BAAMA!= If he had allowed the industry to go bankrupt & renegotiate its unsustainable ridiculous rip off "pensions" to the American car buying public & the owners of these companies. We would now be on far more solid ground. Dumping the DEAD UNION WEIGHT off the newly hired workers backs. And it would have reduced car prices & not CO$T U$ TRILLION$ TO PROP UP THO$E LOON$
memama2 1 year ago
WARNING - This video by the Obama administration was created and distributed solely for the purpose of propaganda. So please, do not confuse our mindless drones with the real and honest facts about Obama and our administration, and how we are destroying America, as you once knew it.
We the Progressive Marxist Socialists thank you.
geofiles 1 year ago
You forget one thing - Small cos need to have enough business to expand. You can give them access to all the loans you want, but cos are not going to take the money if they don't have enough business to warrant expansion. Instead of expanding, cos are merging together and in many cases, purging employees and expenses. Besides, who would want to start a business right now? If it is too successful, you will find a way to make it evil and then tax and regulate it right out of business. Great plan.
chiggerno19 1 year ago
Everybody wish Obama a nice long 10-day vacation on Martha's Vineyard(his 6th vacation this year). Well-deserved. Spending all that tax-payer money & borrowed Chinese money with little to show for it is hard work. PS: Higher taxes yet to come(you raise taxes on one group, they'll pass it on to you!)
realm313 1 year ago
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RealDooble 1 year ago
Only options for a small restaurant owner with credit score 720 with no home.
1) pay $2000-$3000 to loan brokers who will ge GONE
2) go to your own bank ask for loan and LAUGH
3) get Merchan Cash Advance and be in more DEBT
4) offer Best Quality with Lowest Price and walk into DEBT little by little
miru8691 1 year ago
I am a chef and owner of a small restaurant and yes small business needs help.
when i started this business back 4 years ago, this mall was full with two vallet guys running around. Our problem was a parking spot.
Now, this mall is half empty(5 units gone, icecream store gone, music store gone, cell phone store gone, and so one. The ones surviving are because of change of ownership. I'm forced to offer cheap with increased cost.10 jobs will be gone. Cut tax cuz Bank will NEVER loan to tiny.
miru8691 1 year ago
Thanks obama! Keep doing your job!
EricEvansAKADaMan 1 year ago
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StompingRabbits 1 year ago
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FOX news is entertainment, and a poor source of news. You idiots take their opinions as news, and end up talking delusional BS FEMA camps, death panels, terror babies, gun seizures, succession, When Beck tells you to join a tea party with FOX" that is not reporting news that is advertising and promoting events... FOX is at best tabloid media, but they sell what you want to hear, not news... Hell they make news they dont have any intention of reporting it... Its sad.
1986hangman 1 year ago
@gatewayapartments No one is forcing you to stop. Someone is informing you that by adding the inconsequential and unimportant to OUR Constitutional fight is obstructive. My family from Copenhagen & a descendant of Martin Van Buren, dead & they have their own Gov. You are seriously lost as to how and what rights you (as an American) have and bestowed upon the Fed Gov. You HAD BETTER learn your status at Law, how the Constitution defines this for the Fed Gov and Quickly. Read Federalist Papers...
473009723 1 year ago
You sly son of a bitch, your saying this for votes, you will even promise it, just like the help to Arizona. There stll waiting, or was that a bunch of lies also. YOUR A FAILURE. GO AWAY.. America should have a lote better, time for a real President, Time to ask George W. To return.
TheImpeacher 1 year ago
@TheImpeacher Wow, that's probably the dumbest comment I've ever read on YouTube, and that's saying something. Endeavor to educate yourself prior to posting future comments, please.
uscjd2004 1 year ago
Said it before...I'll say it again...
Obama, please provide the Constitutionality for your proposal.
helltrackrider 1 year ago
@helltrackrider Why don't you stuff a copy of the constitution up your ass? Since your head is already there it will be easier for you to refer to it.
megarational 1 year ago
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StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@megarational
Ignorant fucks like you and Obama - and essentially all of Congress - are the reason America is fucked up today...
Look how well Fascism turned out in Italy and Germany you fucktard, now...we have it here and all you can run your trap about is "Democrats" did this and "Republicans" did that...news flash...BOTH parties for the past 100 years HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THE SPIRIT OF THE US CONSTITUTION...
We are a Nation of Laws, not a Democracy...Ignorant fuck.
helltrackrider 1 year ago
@helltrackrider Your pathetic worship of the constitution like some pagan idol is too pathetic.
If anything is unconstitutional the courts will disallow it. If the judicial branch says it is constitutional, then GOP were just yanking your chain with bullshit rhetoric because they couldn't argue on any rational factual basis.
As to why the U.S. is in trouble, the list is as long as your arm. But I don't have time to educate you and you are too stupid to do your own research.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational
Yep...you are right, you know it all...you are a wise, intellectual Progressive.
I am no member of the GOP, nor do i pander to the GOP...hell, the GOP doesnt even and hasnt followed the Constitution either (Nixon-Reagan-Bush-etc)
I am fully aware as to why the US is in shambles politically and economically, as are many many other common sense minded individuals - but, you will never hear anything but Keynesians and Politicians preaching how to fix things...with no result
helltrackrider 1 year ago
@helltrackrider "...Progressive"?
You've been mesmerized by Glen Beck & his magic blackboard again haven't you?
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational
No... the "Progressive" movement was a real ideological movement; unfortunately Glenn Beck is right on this --- I dont care for Beck, nor his simplistic books --- read half and almost vomitted at the third grade writing level.
helltrackrider 1 year ago
@helltrackrider who fucking cares what the "progressive" movement is or was.
Anyone who can't or chooses not to debate any bill or issue on its merits and instead just tosses labels around deserves no respect.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational
What "merits" do you wish to bring up?
I got one for you...UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
It may sound good in principle, hell...it may actually be good (doubtful)...but the fact remains...the Federal Government CANNOT do it...read your American history...the Constitution is the LAW, these fuckwads in office are BREAKING THE LAW with EVERY vote.
helltrackrider 1 year ago
@megarational
So...inform me as to HOW the taking of ones PRIVATE PROPERTY (income taxation) is Constitutional - even though the Progressive Courts of FDR and Wilson upheld it?...I mean, it is after all theft without due process.
Also, what about the drafting (involuntary servitude) of soldiers during WWI and WWII upheld by the SAME courts?..or the price controls during the same era's upheld by the SAME courts?..all these are Constitutional as well?..you need to educate yourself it seems.
helltrackrider 1 year ago
@helltrackrider So give the land back to the Indians & quit whining you dumb bitch.
megarational 1 year ago 2
@gatewayapartments - Keep bitching homes, NOVEMBER is coming! Can you say "Republican land slide?" Sure you can, that's what's going to happen!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits You want to elect Republicans?
Why? You want the nation to borrow more money from China for more tax cuts for the rich?
You finally have a Pres. that fights for ordinary citizens instead of the corporations & the wealthy and you are too stupid to appreciate it.
As only one eg: he saved taxpayers $63 billion each year by eliminating the banks as unnecessary middlemen in student loans.
Naturally, the GOP fought for the banks to stay on the taxpayer gravy train.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational - I was a Republican until a few years ago, now I'm an Independent and Yes, I have on occasion voted for Democrats unlike most Democrats who are knee jerk liberals never crossing party lines! Do you know anybody like that? Sure you do, your whole fucking party is like that! I sat the last Presidential election out because I knew McCain was wrong for the country and Chairman Zero is hardly even an American in my opinion!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits Wrong. I supported Obama because I supported his policies:
- reducing dependence on foreign oil
- ending the tax cuts for the rich
- saving $63 billion per yr. by cutting banks out as unnecessary middlemen in student loans, increasing PELL grants, & making student loan repayment terms more flexible
- SCHIP expansion extending h.c. coverage to millions of children of low income families
- h.c. reform extending coverage to millions more & ending the worst insur. co abuses
see next
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational - Good for you, I didn't vote for him because he's a lying Communist prick who was probably born in Kenya. For crying out loud, what the fuck is the big deal about releasing a real birth certificate? That COLB certificate is as phony as the day is long! I don't like the idea of a Kenyan Muslim with a narcissistic psychological disorder being the President! Screw off or show me a REAL Hawaiian birth certificate!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits
- financial system reform, re instituting common sense regulations, and ending the worst of the credit card co. abuses
- an end to the confrontational "cowboy" approach to foreign policy & diplomacy
- concentration on the nations decaying infrastructure
By contrast, I was totally against the policies (or lack thereof) of the GOP, which is "tax cuts for the rich and no regulations for private industry".
megarational 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits So you would vote Republican?
Again, do you favor their primary solution of borrowing more money for tax cuts for the rich?
(you never did answer that question)
Do you agree with their "trickle down" economic philosophy, which is "give more and more to those with the most and we will all be better off because it will "trickle down"?
Do you believe tax cuts for the rich do more to stimulate demand than, say, extension of unemployment benefits?
I could go on.
Specifics please.
megarational 1 year ago
I own a couple small businesses. I WOULD NOT GET A LOAN ever again from the SBA or any branch of this Despotic regime. I'm suing to get my home back from the banko-terrorists who have been paid several times over on FRACTIONAL RESERVE MONEY that our labor is then taxed to pay the interest on...
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OBAMA or BUSHY baby boy are FINANCIAL TERRORISTS. They will rape you while you are drowning then throw you an anvil. Long live the Republic!
473009723 1 year ago
Read Row v Wade. Read any supreme court ruling that is purported to have an effect on you by the media & you will notice something really strange. So strange you just maybe might go out and start buying your entire neighborhood guns, Ammo and Food...
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Wiwi 5th Amendment... Wiki 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment was enacted after the civil war. Lincoln was losing and did the emancipation proclamation to screw the souths war effort. Now they won, all State's closed off citizenship for the blacks
473009723 1 year ago
for the freed slaves. So what to dh Ammo? All that needed to be done is edit some of the State Const, NOT THE FEDERAL. But with Lincoln having congress adjourn "Sine die" ended our const. They "Inc'd" the bill of rights into todays Const, & they think the 14th Amend is what our Citizenship is (and is) if you do not call them on it. "RAP Restore America"
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If "Due Process" is so key in the 14th, why is it in the 5th? "SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF" Not sovereign state citizens (FRAUD)...
473009723 1 year ago
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"Obama DRUNK!"
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ObamaSnippetsDotCom 1 year ago
@gatewayapartments If you are not IN AMERICA, STAY OUT of our buildup to Revolution II. Idiots like you & your worthless opinions confuse the ignorant among us.
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What you described is ignorance. BUSH & OBAMA blame the "system". NOTHING FAILED. Since 1913 the Capitalist system was slowly destroyed all while pitting left against right and dumbing down everyone by hijacking the schools. "WE" could fix this in a matter of hours, restore the Constitution and END THE FED Banko-Terrorist's!
473009723 1 year ago
What "Taxes" can you cut when you raped us all by paying for our homes upwards of 3 to 4 times in bailing out Insurance and banking companies. You say TARP is returned and yet I see no indication that the Trillion has been burned/destroyed. Now, you go flapping your jaw trying to get even more people in bed with the FRACTIONAL RESERVE (debtors) banking SCAM OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE CARTEL of Banko-TERRORISTS!
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.Obama's Cabal: Fed-Gov West-Wing Terrorists.
473009723 1 year ago
If the democrats would take the 30 billion in pork that they attached to the bill out of the bill it would not be blocked. It was pulled and the Republicans allowed it up but then Reid put the 30 billion dollars of pork back in and it was blocked again. It is the dems that are playing games and it is with OUR TAX DOLLARS.
PS: POTUS=POS
specialks1953 1 year ago
@specialks1953 Every congressman can buy votes and campaign contributions based largely on how much federal money they can suck back to their district. So your gov.t will always be run by piranhas in a feeding frenzy.
The tragedy is that so much of the pop. sees government spending as an "incumbent" problem or a "republican versus democrat" problem, whereas a large part of the problem is the political system itself. It won't change until you change the system.
see next...
megarational 1 year ago
@specialks1953 You will always have governments (of whatever party) that represent the interests of unions, corporations, and moneyed special interests ahead of the interests of common citizens until you remove the power of money over the political and election systems.
see next...
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational - COMMUNISTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE
Valerie Jarret
Van Jones
Anita Dunn
Robert Bauer
and last but not least!
CHAIRMAN ZERO!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits I don't even know what you mean by communists. If you are going off of Glenn Beck's definition than pretty much the whole world save the US and maybe Japan is communist. I recently traveled to China and I can not describe to you the confusion that people there feel when they see people like you describe our president as a commie. Let's make this perfectly clear: Obama is no more a communist than Bush was a fascist.
Garet43 1 year ago
Garet43 ..."the confusion of the japanese" = ....about Obama bein a commie? THOSE GOOBS "thought" that they could bomb Pearl Harbor and win a world for their pathetic sneaky evil efforts! Luckily we had men with backbone and rational thinking to "inflict" a message (*kaboom*) on em that stopped their insanity. So they need a little help to figure out what kinda shape-shifter Obama is? Go back to Japan and tell em to watch new YouTube : "Born in the U.S.A." : Factcheck's photo forgery on film
memama2 1 year ago
@memama2
I do believe you are insane.
analiasahotmail 1 year ago
@Garet43 - Really? My heart goes out the the confused Chinese however that doesn't change the fact that Obama's father who never loved him was a Commie. The fact that his childhood mentor was a member of the Communist Party USA. I think his mother was likely a Communist and that as President he has loaded the White House to the gills with Communist czars like Van Jones, Anita Dunn, Robert Bauer and Valerie Jarret. Let's make this perfectly clear: There is a mountain of evidence supporting this
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@specialks1953 Essential 1st steps:
- prohibit political and campaign contributions from unions, corporations, and all deep pocket special interests.
- limit the ability of moneyed special interests to saturate the media with deceptive, self serving and largely "unsigned" propaganda.
- end the practice of tacking spending appropriations onto unrelated bills (earmarks).
megarational 1 year ago
jobs will return once the demoncrats lose the majority of congress this november
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef Yeah. Borrowing more money from China to give more tax cuts to the rich - that is sure to create more jobs.
Idiot.
megarational 1 year ago
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StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@megarational stop/cut spending or tax cuts for people who create jobs it's that simple
Obama wants to give businesses a one time tax credit and turn around and let the bush tax cuts expire which will apply a permanent tax increase
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef
First, you should be honest. Obama is for letting the Bush tax cuts expire only for those making more than $200K. Did you not know that? Or were you trying to be deceptive?
Second, it's a total fallacy that giving more money to the rich will stimulate jobs more than using that money for targeted spending such as increasing unemployment benefits.
see next couple of comments for reasons...
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational Who do you think creates most of the jobs? People making less than $200,000? I guess it's natural to hate someone who makes more than you but if your trying to create jobs and fix the economy it's time to face facts.
LOL are trying to tell me unemployment benefits create jobs?? LOL So your taking money from the people creating jobs or employed to keep others in poverty. Haven't we extended unemployment twice since Obama has been in office? Where are the jobs.
Mostdef 1 year ago
@megarational no need to give out more bailouts to the rich but increasing taxes will only make things worse.
Redistribution has never worked, ever
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef As a matter of fact, during periods of stagnating demand rich corporations & individual employers tend to close factories and lay off workers.
It's not lack of money that stops them. It's lack of demand. They will not create jobs or open factories out of a charitable desire to help.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational Why would you have intentions to grow your company in this climate? The government is spending money like crazy and the group in charge intends to pay for the spending with tax increases. Why make an investment you won't be able to afford in the coming months?
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef 1) once again you refer to tax cuts, again deceptively avoiding the fact that Obama wants to eliminate tax cuts for only those with incomes above $200K.
Even in those upper incomes a tax cut has a stimulus effect. However no one other than GOP politicians will try to tell you that the stimulus is as much as is the case where that money is used for targeted spending.
As for "redistribution" - that red herring has already been dealt with in some detail in successive comments later on.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational I haven't avoided anything. I think your avoiding or not acknowledging people over $200K are creating the jobs. The stimulus effect is more government spending which is unsustainable.
Redistribution is a red herring? Where do you think the government is getting the money?
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef Re: the "redistribution" red herring: Again, that was already covered in detail in successive comments later on in this thread.
Go make any comments there in direct response.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational Your interpretation of the census implies a certain salary determines whether your rich or poor. A standard of living determines rich or poor. What you call poor is considered rich in other countries. If someone makes more money than me it doesn't I must live in poverty.
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef How can you possibly be so obtuse?
If I meant income I would have said income.
But I didn't.
I said "wealth", meaning ownership of capital assets.
Christ, if you can't even read one paragraph correctly what hope is there for you?
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational That still doesn't change my point. It sounds like the pot is calling the kettle black. I can afford everything I need and most of what I want under $200K or whatever is considered rich.
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef Fareed ZalarwIa “If economy needs more stimulus extend unemployment benefits anther yr. It’s a temp measure & the money will get spent. Those benefits work because they go to people who are living paycheck to paycheck & they spend the money. By contrast we had 3 tax cuts since the economy slumped, 2 under Bush & 1 under Obama & in all 3 cases people saved the money instead of spending it.”
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational Once again, where is the money coming from? People who create jobs. In the stimulus bill everyone under $250K got tax credits. Just enough so you wouldn't notice and spend but we have seen no improvement. Stimulus didn't work under Bush and it won't work under Obama.
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef The private sector was not investing or creating jobs. That was the whole reason behind the stimulus packages.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational Once again why would you invest in this climate knowing what the democrats have planned? We now know the stimulus hasn't worked. I doubt it but one reason could be because they haven't even spent half of the money yet.
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef
And just what do the Democrats "have planned".
Please be specific and don't just regurgitate the GOP propaganda talking points.
Obama wanted a bipartisan committee to come up with debt reduction measures.
The Republicans refused.
Why?
Because if they have no part in recommending solutions they can continue to criticize and smear everything for their own political purposes.
But if they actually had a hand in such a committee they would have a harder time criticizing everything.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational I've said already and since Youtube puts a limit on characters and I figured you were paying attention I didn't type it again. More spending and higher taxes. Surely you don't take someone serious on reducing debt after they've tripled the deficit. The reason republicans probably refused is because people like you later on say it was bipartisan and so the blame should be shared. We've seen this trick over and over the past two years. Attach one RINO to a bill and it's "bipartisan"
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef It's demand that stimulates the economy and creates demand. A rich person or corporation will not build a widget factory if there is no demand for widgets. On the other hand, if the demand is there some bus. or entrepreneur will build the factory even if they have to borrow money to do so. (That's one reason for the financial institutions bailouts - to prevent even further collapse of the credit availability) .
see next....
megarational 1 year ago
@Mostdef An extra dollar in the hands of someone at lower income stimulates demand more than an extra dollar in the hands of someone at a higher income for the simple reason that the person at lower income spends more of each dollar, spends it almost immediately, and spends in all domestically.
By contrast, the rich will save some, invest some overseas, play the stock market or engage in real estate speculation for capital gains - & that does not create jobs.
see next...
megarational 1 year ago
@Mostdef
Alan Greenspan:
"I am very much in favor of tax cuts, but not with borrowed money. The problem we have gotten into in recent years is spending programs with borrowed money, and tax cuts with borrowed money and at the end of the day that proves disasterous."
Interviewer:
"So you do not agree with Republican leaders who say tax cuts pay for themselves?"
Greenspan: "No I do not."
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational Alan Greenspan is not the end all be all of economics. Also him and Bush weren't exactly fiscally conservative. Obama is probably ten times worse but they clearly made mistakes.
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef Green span is non-partisan, has a decades long resume in public & private economics & industry.
You would rather believe some politicians who are only trying to spin things for their own political purposes?
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational I know Wikipedia isn't a perfect source but they have him listed as a Republican and he was nominated to the Fed by Ronald Reagan. In that same interview you reference the left wing, Meet The Press host, David Gregory even said "Dr. Greenspan, it's not often you hear Democrats and liberals quoting you..."
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef He has served under both Republican and Democrat administrations precisely because he has the respect of both and is non-partisan non-political in economic analysis.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational That is your assumption. He was appointed by Bill Clinton which showed his respect for Greenspan not the other way around because once appointed and confirmed the president has no say over the policies of the chairman of the fed.
Mostdef 1 year ago
@megarational I looked up the interview you quoted and found this:
Judy Woodruff: So to those interests who say but wait a minute, if you let these taxes go my taxes go up, it is going to depress growth?
Dr. Greenspan: Yes, it probably , but I think we have no choice in doing that, because we have to recognize there are no solutions which are optimum. These are choices between band and worse.
Greenspan is advocating paying down debt not economic growth
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef Your last sentence gives your spin.
But Greenspans actual words, which you quoted before the second last paragraph of your comment, says regarding the tax increases:
" Yes, it probably, BUT I THINK WE HAVE NO CHOICE IN DOING THAT...."
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational Yes. See at the end of my comment where I say Greenspan is advocating paying down debt not economic growth
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef If the economy were allowed to go into another great depression, the debt would also increase since there would be even fewer jobs, therefor more spending on social safety nets, and also less tax revenue.
There is no silver bullet. But tax cuts for the rich at this time is lunacy.
Fareed Zakarwia, in the same segment as my comment with the quote from him regarding previous tax cuts, also graphically showed that the unfunded Bush tax cuts alone account for 30% of the deficit.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational Fareed Zakarwia is not an economist. What was his source?
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef Go back to Wiki & read his biography & credentials & educational background.
It puts you to shame, and is more legitimate than the run of the mill politician.
Anyway, there are now more than enough of our comments for any open minded reader to form their own opinions on who makes the most sense.
I'll not waste any more time on you, & will accordingly delete any further of your sewage from my in basket.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational You're avoiding a question. It's no big deal you don't have to admit it but you know the truth.
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef - Megairrational is obviously in a state of denial thinking his messiah can do no wrong!!!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@megarational -
Valerie Jarret = Communist
Van Jones = Communist
Anita Dunn = Maoist
Robert Bauer = Maoist
Frank Marshal Davis = Communist
Am I being "irrational?"
bwaaaahahahaha!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@megarational - "Spread the wealth" is a direct quote from the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, am I being irrational?
Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@Mostdef Besides, you don't pay down debt by borrowing money to extend tax cuts to the rich.
As for the stimulus spending, most economists, even under Bush, believe that stimulus spending was necessary to prevent another "great depression" with unemployment rates possibly exceeding 20%. .
Naturally, you won't hear that on Fox Fiction or from Republican politicians.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational I thought the bailout was to avoid another great depression and the stimulus was to get the economy going.
I know it's hard to keep track of all that spending. A trillion here, a trillion there...
Mostdef 1 year ago
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@Mostdef
Now you are just babbling.
megarational 1 year ago
@Mostdef Jobs will return under Republicans? They already had control for 8 years, including 6 1/2 where they had control of both houses, and by the end of their disastrous administration the nation was hemorrhaging 3/4 of a million jobs every month. Their policies haven't changed.
The idiocy is giving them power again, to peruse the same policies and expecting a different result.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational and that period of time where congress was controlled by Democrats under Bush is nothing to pay attention to right?
Mostdef 1 year ago
@Mostdef The GOP had the Presidency for 8 years & control of congress for 6 1/2 years, during which the Bush/GOP domestic & foreign policies were passed & implemented. .
And you are yapping about the Dem's control of congress for 1 1/2 years?
I can detail the GOP legislation that passed & contributed to the crisis the nation found itself in.
Can you detail anything the Dem congress did in the 1 1/2 years that contributed to the mess?
megarational 1 year ago
megarational says "can you detail anything the DEM (DIM) congress did in the 1 1/2 years that contributed to the mess"? ..ANSWER: ..not hold secret DIM only obama dog and pony shows behind closed doors woulda been a real good start
memama2 1 year ago
well said
alllla82 1 year ago
Most Americans are saying that the Bush tax cuts should end for both the middle class, as well as the wealthy to boost consumer demand!! In the long run, this will bring more revenue, which our government desperately needs right now to run the country!! The extra revenue will enable President Obama to create more jobs!!
groundhog2008 1 year ago
When He took office, it would have been a good thing if Democrats had repealed the bush tax cuts!! Most all Americans seem to believe that letting them expire is the 2nd best thing!!
Todays jobs bill is so vitally important, why does President Obama just make it an executive order? The repubicans would stoop at hurting the country in order to cause President Obama to look like a failure!!
groundhog2008 1 year ago
@groundhog2008 Obama is a failure you slacker. The Gov needs more money ,you say. Why , another vacation?
zonie1953 1 year ago
@zonie1953 Just an FYI, they say that he is on "vacation" as much as they can to piss you off... They need this Nation divided and hating one another for their system to work... Don't let the bastards under your skin. They will, get theirs in the end. When the end the dollar world wide and play the marshal law game with H1N400 or whatever they are going to do... They will get theirs. The gulf was an Asphalt Volcano... Research it.
473009723 1 year ago
This is the first time I have seen a politician sticking up for small business including getting loans. Good on USA for foresight. May be Australia could copy this.
hdwalker 1 year ago
If he were serious about helping small biz, he wouldn't let the tax-cuts expire.
Most small biz file their taxes under the part of tax-code in which taxes are going up dramatically.
Small biz are simply looking forward to this harsh reality & are acting accordingly to ensure the health of their business.
Obama is being, at best, disingenuous which his political two-step.
He knows he must at least 'sound' like capitalist coz people still despise marxism.
tD
ezbiskit 1 year ago 2
What a liar he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
riddex27 1 year ago 2
@gatewayapartments Agreed. It took President Reagan some time to pull America from the Carter depression! I have been eagerly waiting on Obama to fix the Capitalism problem with his Socialist agenda. It sure has taken him more than a day, just like it took Rome. Socialism has worked so well in Europe, I am sure it will do the same for us.
fenton1017 1 year ago
Obama, dude, you have majorities in BOTH houses! If you can't get the votes to pass this reform or convince your own party that America needs more socialist spending agendas, how in the world are you going to convince us "right wingers" that it will? Stop blaming everyone but yourself. You were elected over 2 years ago! Remember, the "buck stops with me"? Time to fess up big guy! You wanted the job, you got it!
fenton1017 1 year ago 4
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1986hangman 1 year ago
Damn, Obama sure knows how to serve up punches to the Republican party when he gives speeches.
lildwayne21 1 year ago
@gatewayapartments I really think you might want to put the crack pipe down and sober up! We aren't building Rome here.
TTURedRaidr 1 year ago
im a conservative, and i dont agree with obama sometimes but he's right about this and we need to pass the bill
CannedKoolaid 1 year ago
I have a philosophical question, or a transcendent question.
Can you as a marxist/communist, throw your own bus under the bus?
LOL. LOL. LOL.
Let me see. How many have been thrown under the proverbial bus?
Shall we count the victims? No, that would be barbaric.
Let us just say that marxist/communists WILL NEVER have enough
people to throw under the bus. November, November will never come
quick enough. Constitutional government, rid ourselves of ALL the
communists in our midst!
endisnighe 1 year ago
excellent. i love our president.
fmcambo6251 1 year ago
I thought Republicans are pro-small business! How can they block this bill?! Is that because Obama also supports it?
fumiohuang 1 year ago
A jobs bill? LOL... Gee, I hope this time at least ONE job will be created! What happenned to the stimulus bill? I guess alot of people got rich but no jobs eh? So you started out with 8% unemeployment and it's now 10%. Nice job! That was a pun. Only govt jobs were ever created and they were temporary. We all know govt jobs are a drain, not an economic plus. You have been a miserable failure and here you are so proud of yourself! Why because if people suffer that's cool, you hate capitalism!
aSingleDallasGuy 1 year ago 2
@aSingleDallasGuy yep! I thank Bush for that high employment rate!
fumiohuang 1 year ago
@fumiohuang .... Like a duck following your flock, I'm sure you do. What about the previous 7.5 years of Bush where it was below 5%? What about your lovely democrat congress the last few years that Bush was president? What, I can't hear you. What about the economy killer fannie mae and freddie mac whom democrats created and ran that was the breaking point? What about Obama started at 8% unemployment and its now 10%? You seem to have amnesia about all that eh? Typical liberal drone! LOL
aSingleDallasGuy 1 year ago 2
@aSingleDallasGuy - How can you possibly fault Obama for the unemployment rate? He came into office at the start of a landslide recession that began during the Bush administration. Now, the bill he's trying to pass to HELP the unemployment rate is being blocked by the conservative minority! Go ahead and point fingers, but yours is pointing 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
HeyDuffy459 1 year ago
@HeyDuffy459 .... Are you serious? How about he has been president going on 2 years now? When Bush inherited a rescession from Clinton's dot com bust he quickly disposed of it with tax cuts. The reason you may not remember that rescession is because Bush made it go away with SMART economic policy. Isn't that a good sign when you can't remember a rescession? Yet, here you are going on 2 years with a disaster for an economic policy and you cant see the jungle because the trees are in you way! LOL
aSingleDallasGuy 1 year ago 3
@HeyDuffy459 .... What an Obama lover! Geez! The republicans are at fault? I got news for you idiot, the republicans can't stop anything the democrats want. The democrats have enough voters to pass anything they want and have. You can see the results! God help us! So, here you are blaming Bush and republicans because your god-like president has been a disaster! Fortunately, those of us with common sense can put 2 + 2 together dispite your stupid rhetoric.
aSingleDallasGuy 1 year ago
@aSingleDallasGuy - I'm not an Obama lover. I am, however, strongly opposed to legislators who play party politics on bills like this that are clearly beneficial. It's interesting that you think anyone in support of even a single position by the administration considers Obama to be "god-like". Typical of a conservative to see things only in black and white like that. And to throw around religious innuendos.
HeyDuffy459 1 year ago
@HeyDuffy459 You chose to disparage something you know nothing about. Did you know that just 15 years ago and on back in history that most Democrats considered themselves "Conservative Democrats". You are getting Republican and Conservative mixed up.
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Also, it is NEVER a good idea to let this (Be it left or right) Government DO ANYTHING. They are despotic and a cabal working against us all. By secret contracts and hidden "rights" they are fraudulently removing our rights. Study the RAP
473009723 1 year ago
@473009723 - Are you suggesting that most Republicans are NOT conservative? I don't care about in the past. I'm talking about the Republicans in office in modern times.
HeyDuffy459 1 year ago
@HeyDuffy459 Sweetheart, I have absolutely no problem admitting when I have been wrong. If you notice ,my posts are (yes) a little bit angry, but I'm slamming forlks to wake them up to the fact that BOTH SIDES are in this thing together. If you believe that any of the truly Conservative folks in our past would have voted for anything that these frauds, despots and traitors would vote for you must be mistaken. They waited till the WW! and WWII gens have all but left us to begin their push to NWO
473009723 1 year ago
@HeyDuffy459 and now to answer your question, NO, not a single one of them but maybe (So far it's looking good) Ron Paul. But as this is our Nations Sovereignty I am careful and will not announce that he is safe. But Duffy, turn off the TV. Both R & D are propaganda machines lulling you to sleep.
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.By secret contract (fraud) these fools believe they can lump us into 14th Amend SUBJECT CLASS citizenship. By eliminating the State, merging it with Federal. Pathetic Bush-Obama-Traders w/theEnemy
473009723 1 year ago
@fumiohuang Yeah because the Democrats who have controlled congress for 12 years had nothing to do with it since President Bush was all powerful. LOL lame dude really lame ! Do you even realize how much of the public is laughing at you libtards continuing to blame Bush ? Even the late night comics are laughing at you, or are you really that far out of touch with the public view ? LOL
hobo59 1 year ago
So what you're saying Mr. President is that those that have a dissenting opinion should just shut up and go along with a bill they disagree with... right?
joshpnw 1 year ago 3
@joshpnw - Those with a dissenting opinion should be able to articulate why their opinion reflects the desire and interests of their constituents. The dissenters have failed to do so in any reasonable fashion. It's simply another instance of a failing Republican party trying to block yet another bill that will help this country, just to try and make the administration look bad.
HeyDuffy459 1 year ago
@HeyDuffy459 Maybe they should, but in the end that's up to the constituents to decide. If they don't feel properly represented, then they can vote them out. And don't talk down to the Republicans as if the Democrats have never used parliamentary procedures to stop legislation they didn't agree with... it's a rule afforded and used by both parties.
This admin doesn't need help looking bad... they're doing fine on their own.
joshpnw 1 year ago 2
Hello Mr President ?
(Cricketts chirping )
Uhhhmmm, Mr President ?
MR. PRESIDENT ?
He's where ?
On Vacation again !
Well I guess what we think, doesn't really matter then anyway does it ?
hobo59 1 year ago
@hobo59 - Mr President just addressed the country on an issue that he realizes is critical to bolstering our economy. I didn't hear any crickets. Maybe some background chatter from partisan conservatives trying to prevent the administration from making progress.
HeyDuffy459 1 year ago
@hobo59 haha
CannedKoolaid 1 year ago
PLEASE Search for ":Gerald Celente" on YouTube and watch his videos. HEY lol obama blah blah
NiteAngel 1 year ago
thank you obama
jinwo0 1 year ago
interwebbist 1 year ago
@interwebbist Yes! but you know what?! Imagine if McCain and Palin won the election, the umemployment would be at least 20%!
fumiohuang 1 year ago
@interwebbist i suppose there are a lot of problems that obama has to handle and fix. but whether or not you and i believe there are other ways to go about it, i believe you're a bit hasty in your reaction to our president's decisions. I believe presidency comes with streamlining problems and it takes time to mend and break problems.
Your statements are a bit bias and fallacious. Not enough room in youtube to debate it all.
jinwo0 1 year ago
Eventually the Republicans are going to get sick of the radical obstructionists who have taken over their party, and they will elect people who can work with Obama, at least on issues like this. I'm already seeing moderate Republicans (like Florida's Charlie Christ) shift Independent and actually lead the polls. If the Republicans won't stop obstructing, the American people will hold them accountable.
thewag777 1 year ago 2
@thewag777 i wish the darn Republicans never even BEGAN obstructing, to begin with.
JediMasterLego 1 year ago
@gatewayapartments It never ceases to amaze me that people expected Obama to just wave a magic wand and it'd all be better. Change takes time and the rotten system that GWB left will take time to turn around.
Cutchswife 1 year ago 2
@Cutchswife
It will never turn around as long as Obama takes orders from Wall Street. Look at who is working for him (who he chose) and see where his loyalties are. Look at every lie & watered-down change.
People have every right to expect an end to Obama's DISINFORMATION campaign.
Guys like Peter Schiff (who predicted the financial crisis years in advance) and Gerald Celente (trends forecaster) see The Greatest Depression forming, so prepare yourself or lose at the hands of his propaganda.
interwebbist 1 year ago
@Cutchswife i couldn't agree with you more, @Cutchswife
JediMasterLego 1 year ago
@gatewayapartments
Personally, I think that this small business bill will help a lot of people have family income again, which is essential to maintain American values.
The second important agenda is to set up the export council, which helps small business to obtain earning from oversea country. The money from 66 billion world's population will always a winning ticket.
applesweeter 1 year ago
@gatewayapartments Where is "riome"? LOL - ignorent lib.
RonFella 1 year ago
@RonFella "ignorent" LOL - ignorant conservative.
Elmoresnooze 1 year ago
And the right wings continue to portray themselves as stubborn children....
Tomorrow in politics....NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
Sean554 1 year ago
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Sean554 1 year ago
FUCK REPUBLICANS, that is all
Trippze 1 year ago 5
@Trippze - Not this time around Bubba, it's the Democrats turn to get fucked in November so hold on to your hair weave!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits im not black...
Trippze 1 year ago
@Trippze - When did I ever say that you where Black homeboy?
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits If the Republicans get back in its ordinary working citizens & the nation that will be fucked.
They ran the car into the ditch when they were in office, they have no new ideas or policies, so you want to lend the car to them again?
They have always won elections on lies, fear tactics, slandering the opposition, using labels and slogans instead of intelligent debate. Unfortunately, it works all to well on fools like you.
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational - I know that the Republicans are mean old greedy men who couldn't give a flying fuck about average Joe not being able to exist. With that said, I'm also not too pleased with the Extreme left Marxists crowd led by Chairman Zero. If you lefties have your way we'll be paying Bangladesh because they got flooded and Al Gore insists it was due to "global warming." Take your carbon credits and your Che T-shirt and shove them up your asses. This time the Republicans are the lesser evil!
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits "extreme left Marxists led by Chairman Zero"?
How can anyone take you seriously?
megarational 1 year ago
@megarational - You useless Marxist pricks have been driving for the last 18 months when you aren't too busy apologizing to the Allah Akbar crowd. What have we to show for it? Not a fucking thing and you're about to really get your clocks cleaned in the Mid terms!
Marxism isn't a "new policy" dipshit! Chairman Zero couldn't run a hamburger stand, he has absolutely no executive experience and you jerk offs made him President?
StompingRabbits 1 year ago
@StompingRabbits You're really confused when you blame the mess of American politics on those of us who actually are socialist. The conflict between two capitalist parties may be very entertaining, but we're not part of it. Pretending that we are is just a sad mechanism by which the existing system protects itself from real change. If one of us ever were in high office, you wouldn't need to do guesswork as if it's one of us. You'd know it. We're not dems or repubs, and we don't skulk in the dark
pgunn01 1 year ago
@megarational - On the topic of vacuous slogans and labels and slander... What the fucking hell do you call the "Yes, we can" and "CHANGE" slogans? They were nothing if not totally vacuous! Lies?? Like the lie that Chairman Zero was born in Hawaii? Fear Tactics, you mean global warming? Intelligent debate? You mean like Chairman Zero taking pot shots at private citizen Rush Limbaugh and then declining on Rush's offer to debate? Oh Pleeeease! Slander, like what you're doing to Sarah Palin?
StompingRabbits 1 year ago