While my father prayed earnestly to god To protect commerce, I would offer up... Secretly... The proudest prayer a boy could think of. Lord, make me a great composer. Let me celebrate your glory Through music And be celebrated myself. Make me famous through the world, dear god. Make me immortal. After I die, Let people speak my name forever With love for what I wrote. In return, I will give you my chastity And my industry... My deepest humility, Every hour of my life. Amen.
Elle est un petit peu bas dans ce duo, c'est trop piano par rapport à la tension de la ligne dans ce petit studio, sa voix a besoin de plus de place, et de moins de statisme que dans cette musique sublime mais fixe (et sur des notes de passage!)
@MrHbc3 You, old fart, it's not enough to you too to spread lies on YT. What truth comes out? PROVE it too that arpeggio IS Serenaluce! PROVE! Welcome to "PJ's troll club" with their cheer leaders like CaraPhilos and JaRoWie and listen to more lies they will make up! Bravissimo to you! Congratulations.
@MrHbc3 Caro,of course,if you have nothing better to do in your old life just to rave on YT without any proof that somewhat "truth" comes out because somewhat anonymous brainwashed user CaraPhilos from "PJ's troll club" spreads lies about everybody whom dares criticize her baby PJ that it's the same person with multiple accounts... go ahead.But actually, it's YT. You can't attach police report with DNA analysis and finger prints.So how can you prove ANY truth?!People only exchange OPINIONS here!
Well, well, each of us can indeed mark the trolling of the multiple troll "Serenaluce" as SPAM or thumb down, and otherwise ignore it. You just feed a troll by anwering to their inane rantings.
@CaraPhilos Cara, you are so persistent in your lies. PROVE then that serenaluce and arpeggio are the same person! I'm waiting. You have nothing better to do in your miserable boring life than to spread lies on YT? Do you know anything about freedom of expression? There's no artist in the world whom absolutely EVERYBODY loves. There's no such thing as "Everybody loves PJ". Mind that neither arpeggio or me ever appealed to anybody to vote against PJ. Really brainwashed trolls are people like YOU!
"A better singing partner", really !! And who would that be ?
You want the name of a really FASHIONABLE singer : try Justin Bieber.
As for Jarousski, that's not the word I would have chosen : "good", even "excellent" would be more appropriate. I never ceased to be amazed by the way some people can dismiss someone just like that !
Oh, and by the way, I don't think Véronique Gens needs to sing with him for getting promotion.
And if she was after that, she would have sing with Natalie Dessay.
@19Edurne Don't you think that if they have this shitty tendency nowadays to make more money on shallow people who just react to BIG NAMES and like to be part of a big crowd, who consume only what is FASHIONABLE soon promoters will realy use Justin Bieber? Be careful. They can read it and REALLY make such duet. If now to sell great real sopranos of the past like Callas, Caballe, Sutherland they put on the same CD Brightman, among opera tenors pop singer Bocelli their next step will be Bieber!
I understand your point, but I don't understand why you are talking here about A Bocelli when I was talking about Jarousski. The only contertenor I can think of who was kind of a "pop singer" was Klaus Nomi, and thanks to him, when I was a teenager I discovered Purcell, contertenors voices and a whole kind of classical music I didn't think I could like. There's no bad way for discovering good music, and if Bocelli can do the same for other people, that's fine with me !
@19Edurne I don't despise PJ. You just don't understand my point. Nothing bad with discovering classical treasures first in pop singers' interpretations and having a desire to discover what other interpretations can be and compare. But the problem is that pop singers and their promoters should be HONEST and present it as "classics in pop interpretations". PJ is clearly a POP singer.Just singing classical stuff DOESN'T make Nomi opera CT, as Bocelli isn't a TENOR.But people are just brainwashed..
If you consider Jaroussky as a pop singer, then it's hopeless ! I'm really wondering on wich criteria you base your judgment. And by the way, "tenor" or "counter tenor" has to do with the range of one's voice, and "pop", "jazz" or "classical" with the way one chooses to use this voice. I'm still waiting for you to give me a clear explanation of what is pop in PJ's way of singing. For me, I just ear a classical trained singer singing classical music in a classical way.
@19Edurne Exactly.What's hopeless here for you?I said that PJ is the same pop, a virus in CT world as Brightman for opera sopranos as she is a POP soprano, Bocelli, Baskov for tenors as they are POP tenors.Bocelli recorded in operas like Carmen with true opera singers to sell it better.Baroque is first of all about moving the heart and showing wide range of human emotions,not only singing in small untrained falsetto on HIGH notes.Real CTs have all 3 well-developed registers,not FLAT voice likePJ
You say you don't despise him but call him a "virus", with a "flat (!?)" "untrained" falsetto.
Well, I really don't know how to namel it but despise !
Just because you think his voice is "flat"(compared to what ?) doesn't make him a pop singer, and he certainly isn't untrained ! I get that you're "a huge fan" of Spano (yes, I had a look at your chanel) but that's not a reason for disrespect. Fortunately, each singer has a different voice, otherwise music would be really boring.
@19Edurne OMG, what a childish response. You have a somebody's picture on your channel, so if you dare to criticize other artists it's all connected with your favourites number one and showing disrespect. Oh please. Don't behave like "you dislike PJ I'll poopoo on your Spanos then".I put so many REAL CTS there like Lemos,Cencic,Kowalski,White,Taylor,Esswood...If I put e.g.Wunderlich's picture and call Bocelli POP tenor for YOU it's only disrespect?Bocelli like PJ is commercial singer by HIMSELF!
I "poopoo" on nobody ! Did I ever say I don't like like Spano ? In fact I quite like his voice, but I had never heard of him before. But unlike you, I will never say I'm a FAN, of ANYONE ! Even people I like a lot, because FAN means fanatic, and fanatism leads to a lot of things, and generally bad ones.
I'm still waiting the clear explanation for why you qualify PJ a "pop commercial" singer by the way. I might be dumb because I just don't get it.
@19Edurne Actually,if you misspelled SpanoS twice,I thought you dislike him:-).But bravo:very good point - FAN is from FANATIC.In the Bible it says:"Don't make a false idol for yourself of clay..."I can assure you that I don't have idols and don't have an altar at home to worship them:-).I dislike this word too but how better can you call audience who admire a certain artist?E.g. Spanos, Cencic, Pavarotti...no matter who LOVERS like opera lover?It's even worse as people think only about BED! LOL
@19Edurne So,what's your proposition how to call better in English an artist's admirers? Just LISTENERS?It's so cold and impersonal. In Russian we have good words for the artist "kumir"which isn't exactly idol,and "poklonniki" for fans.I hate this meaning of fanaticism like "tiffosi"in Italian...I say it again:if a singer performs classical stuff he is JUDGED by classical higher STANDARDS.PJ doesn't have ALL 3 well-developed REGISTERS to be called CT.He sings only on HIGH notes in FLAT POP voice
Well, of course he sings only high notes ! He sings as a counter tenor for god's sake ! Not a tenor or a baritone (although he can sing baritone for fun sometimes : actually, he and Andreas Scholl are the only 2 CT I ever heard sing also in a baritone register.)
And I'm sorry, but his voice and "répertoire" choices don't sound pop nor commercial to me, unless you think Monteverdi or some obscure Renaissance composers are a sure bet for commercial success.
@19Edurne We are just speaking different languages.You are like my dad who can't hear the difference in the classically trained opera voice and FLAT pop voice, and for him EVERYBODY who sings classical stuff in POP MANNER becomes OPERA like Lara Fabian who sang Ave Maria.For God's sake REAL CTs don't sing ONLY on HIGH notes, like basses not only on LOW notes.To be a true operatic voice one matter who- CT, soprano, bass should have THREE registers,and not just perform e.g.Monterverdi in POP way!
Sorry but I do make the difference between pop singing and classical singing, contrary to what you think. But we're going to stop there because it's useless and we clearly don't speak about the same thing. I make a difference between the technique and the intrinsic quality of a voice. There are just things training and technique can't change in a voice, and that's what make them unique. If you think his voice is flat, fine. But stop saying he's untrained !
@19Edurne Actually,Happy new year to you!:-)It's not useless to discuss what is pure classical and what is classical in pop interpretations.You just shouldn't take it so close to heart:-)You will never convince me, and I'll never convince you; but actually many people hear that PJ isn't what he is presented but they just don't want to deal with his crazy fans who call everyone who dares to criticize him a TROLL:-).I can feel physically that his voice is FLAT!But he is a TRAINED violinist,not CT!
@serenaluce Happy new year to you to ! But I still think it's useless if you're mistaking the quality of the voice with the training.
And if you want to hear a really untrained singer, search for Florence Foster Jenkins if you don't know her yet : If you're in for a big laugh, believe me you won't be disappointed ! My gift for the new year !
@19Edurne I am not so arragant or ignorant to confuse the QUALITY of the voice with training.E.g.great REAL CT though with different technique Jochen Kowalski began his opera career as a property man in the Berlin opera house.His father was a butcher.NO education or NO training even in the best places with the best teacher can give TALENT!PJ is a POP singer performing classics exactly judging from the QUALITY of his voice,and not training.Florence Jenkins isn't a singer, just opera PARODIST! LOL
Try to be precise with words : Foster Jenkins is a PARODY not a PARODIST. She would be a parodIST if she had sang that bad on purpose, but she did that seriously believing she was a singer, thus making of herself the parodY of an opera singer.
Since we don't give the same meaning to words, I don't see the point in continuing this exchange any further.
@19Edurne Hey, I discovered Chopin via Liberace many decades ago. I now like his personal appearance, comedic style better than just his audio.. but even that had a certain style.
But my point was that I really don't understand why you despise Jarousski that much,treating him a "pop singer" when he clearly isn't. I can admit you don't like his voice,after all, I don't like Caballé's voice (I always have the impression she's on the verge of being off key, can't help it) but I would never say she's a bad singer.
@19Edurne Actually Natalie and she seem to be good friends and one of the Duets on a CD by Emmanuelle Haim is with the two of them. The Virgin (EMI) promotional video (Handel, Arcadian Duets) on YT captures some of the interaction between them. Guess who is the more dignified. I like them both a lot.
We must recall that in the catholic tradition of Pergolesi times, women were strictly forbidden to sing in the churches. So this Stabat Mater as all the other catholic hymns were performed originaly by two Castratos (counter tenor) which is currently never the case today.
@frenchiecocorico1 sorry but there is a very important difference between castratos and counter tenors.. bering a counter tenor myself I know that I've still got my balls.. Castratos however had to give them up to keep their high voices.. There is also a huge difference in tone and warmth in their voices..
@tobiassegura Yes, you're absolutely right and I know it well for a long time. Actually, there is no real castrato singer anymore. They have been replaced by counter tenors and fortunately all of them have balls.
I just remenbered that in the catholic tradition of Pergolesi times, women were forbidden to sing in churches and only male singers were allowed to do. Sopranos were either children or Castratos. So, today counter tenors would have to sing the Castratos part instead of women
So much crankiness always on early and classical music videos. Something that some early and classical fans don't like, what they consider to be pop-like, is sliding between notes (portamento).
These comments are confusing to me. My first encounter with Jaroussky was in Salle Pleyel in Giulio Cesare with Cecilia Bartoli. He was fabulous and only one of several countertenors in the show. He was as loud as any of those other guys. I also noticed nothing "pop" about his performance. So I guess I don't get it.
I've seen PJ in live in " il sant alessio" , it was beautiful.And his voice wasn't amplified.He doesn't need it.But Veronique Gens and Jarroussky ' voices don't fit together i think, that's why this version of stabat mater isn't very good.
@TheConsolamentum And how can you actually know that PJ's voice wasn't amplified? Can you prove itÉ Did you check him as at the airport using metal detector and found nothing? I have this whole DVD Sant Alessio but itès fantastic because of Cencic, Lemos , Sabata, Guilllon and other participation in it, and not because of this pop falsettist PJ! But surprisingly even PJ is not too bad there as itès exactly in the image of that freaking ÈsaintÈ Alessio to be empty and not manly. But he is not CT!
I cannot understand how anyone could respond to such sublime singing. However, looking at the bored expressions of some of the audience in this video one might wonder what on earth they are doing there! Jaroussky is magical no doubt about it -who can disagree?
Once again, Jaroussky cannot sing without a microphone. I've never seen him without one except in one live opera excerpt...and there it was obvious that he was amplified. The microphone was hidden somewhere...somewhere on his person probably.
@arpeggio1358 Absolutely, if ALL people had ears like you they could HEAR that PJ is just AMPLIFIED to create an ILLUSION that he actually sings almost as LOUD as Gens but it's impossible taking into consideration his superficial pop manner and just "touching the surface". Gens is a real classically trained opera singer, and if PJ didn't use a hidden microphone she would just blow him away with her strong voice. Love live sound technicians who can present any POP FALSETTIST as a true CT! LOL
@serenaluce I'm afraid that people will still continue to idolize Jaroussky and buy his recordings, unaware that he is just a pop falsettist. It's a shame that someone of Gens's high calibre is singing with Jaroussky. But then, Pavarotti sang with all sorts of pop performers. At least those appearances were in his Pavarotti and Friends concerts that were intended only for pop performers.
@arpeggio1358 Yeah, it's really a shame that such a wonderful soprano with a beautiful deep voice and splended technique as Gens has to sing with a promoted pop falsettist PJ instead of real CTs who are not that few nowadays like Cencic, Scholl, Lemos, Taylor, White, Spanos, Mena, Guillon, actually really enough, it's to name just a few who have strong voices with proper technique and don't need any TRICKS to emplify them to match her level.Pavarotti in any event was still a TRUE opera singer:-)
@arpeggio1358 the microphone was hidden in a fake teeth, i already saw that in a James Bond movie. The teeth is fake, Jarrousky is fake, all his concerts in every theatres are fake (you've been in those theatres haven't you ?) and all his international success is fake. They should have done this TV show without any microphone, then we would have heared the truth :-D :-D :-D
It's also PJ that made the fake video of 9/11 with fake planes, praise the conspiracy theory...
@poymanjoe Real oepra singers never use mics. PJ can't sing without a mic. The amplification is obvious to anyone with an ear for music. This is no conspiracy theory. BTW, which of your Bobby McFerrin or Tears for Fears videos gives you your knowledge of opera and correct singing technique?
@arpeggio1358 For me, power is not a major quality for singing. Emotion, musicality are more important, maybe like many people who like PJ. I don't feel like requiring a diploma of any kind to enjoy music, all kinds of musics, without dogmatism or elitism. I can feel so depressed listening to Chostakovitch, but i can't play piano. Wagner is not PJ's favourite music, he often sings in churches with small baroque ochestras, he seldom has to overflow a choir of 40 or more singers. Enjoy music.
@poymanjoe But he says he's an opera singer, and opera singers must use correct technique and sing without mics. One can't have musicality without technique. Nobody needs a diploma to enjoy music though. My preference is for real opera singers rather than those like PJ who sing in a pop style and belong in the popera (pop opera) category.
@arpeggio1358 I hate to tell you this, Arpeggio, but any time you hear a recording of an opera singer... a microphone or some sort was used. Otherwise.. No Recording!!! By the way, the cameo look at Natalie Dessay sitting at that table was fun.
@MrHbc3 Hate to tell you, but Jaroussky sings withn obvious mic even when he's singing live...like here. Also, take a look on YT at Bocelli trying to sing a recital at the Met. Someone recorded him with a hidden camera in the audience. He's obviously not amplified and he can hardly be heard. Neither PJ or AB are opera singers, by the way.
@arpeggio1358 I am assuming that all of the singing with microphone is not recorded, that you were there in person and have good reason to be sure that it was not being recorded for any purpose. You and serenaluce post over, and over, and over again on this same thread insulting Jaroussky and pushing your Cencic etc. Surely no one is paying you for this crazy drivel, but what an obsession... and what mean spiritedness and poor manners.
@MrHbc3 Look here. I'm not pushing anyone. I simply think that Jaroussky sings in a pop style. I'm hardly obsessed with anyone. CVencic isn't my favorite countertenor. You are the mean spirited one who has poor manners. I have blocked you. Go away.
@MrHbc3 Who would speak about "obsession" you, old fart ,who put the "same thread"of obsession on every video by your precious Mary Ellen Nesi how great she is in pants roles that she only shows off her big boobies and revealing clothes while singing as a sexy mature WOMAN pretending that she is a MAN! LOL Who is pushing any Cencic if she descredits herself with her own manner of dressing to make men drool over her APPEARANCE as SEX SELLS! Who discredits PJ if not he HIMSELF with his POP MANNER!
@MrHbc3 I treated you with respect discussing what opera should be IMO,exchanging OPINIONS on YT but you are a mean old creature spreading lies about me all over YT. Prove that I hate PJ or the same Andrea Bocelli! It's all LIBEL! I don't insult anybody as a PERSON. Artists are public figures and supposed to be JUDGED by their LISTENERS to live by performances and recordings! Saying that Bocelli is a great POP SINGER but no opera singer as he has no operatic technique isn't INSULT!So is PJ,idiot
@MrHbc3 By the way,Cencic like arpeggio's isn't "my" Cencic either. I don't push anybody. I'm not his wife, lover, relative or an agent! I'm just a FAN!Prove that I have something to do with Cencic or anybody else and that I deliberately degrade PJ or YOUR Nesi as YOU are just obsessed with her that you even comment all the time on her dress when nobody else cares about her "to push" ANYBODY of my favourites!Prove it! You are so good at imagining stuff and telling the others to see a doctor!Now!
@MrHbc3 This is so funny, or would be if it weren't borderline psycho!! Evry three or four months I open a new Jaroussky video and find the same poison coming from Serenaluce; oxymoronic screenname if I ever saw one, since there is nothing serene or luminous about her comments. I hadn't come across arpeggio so far, but looks like a stalker from hell just as Serenaluce. Ladies, or whatever the hell you are, if you don't like Jarousski, why don't you get a life and keep away from him?
@sobelou I just saw most of Pergolesi's Stabat Mater with a good soprano and Vivica Genaux On YT. It was fantastic! Much better than this one. It was, however, a big production compared to this one. It also got a fabulous reception from the audience who finally compelled an encore after numerous leavings and returnings by the conductor and the singers. One difference seemed to be that the other that one was better rehearsed. Another was that the soprano and Vivica were much better balanced.
@sobelou Caro amico, it would be so funny what you write here if it weren't borderline psycho!!! Also blunt SLANDER, LIBEL doesn't do you any credit! Philippe Jaroussky has on YT about 2 320 videos if you put his name in "search". How many videos have I commented? Prove it and send me links or better copy ALL my comments on EVERY PJ's video, even the NEW ones at least for the last FOUR moths that you watch this POP singer PJ and post it here!Saying that he is a POP singer is POISON, STALKER? LOL
@serenaluce Yikes!! Why do you have to yell? Be serene, Serena!!. I don't have a clue of how many videos PJ has on You Tube, but almost every time I stumble upon one, there you are, intensely personal (yes, personal, several times you have made derogatory comments about his manhood). If you despise him so, or have such low artistic view of him, why do you waste your time on him?
@sobelou Come on.Who yells here?The only 2 people who make some noise here are wonderful Gens and pop falsettis PJ -which is such a pity as she deserves a better singing partner from true opera world! But to have a better chance of promotion for themselves as in any profession good singers have to work with those who are just FASHIONABLE for the moment and please"the right people".Don't be so naive.Actually I replied to Hbc here who seemed to be understanding in PMs and so mean in open comments
@MrHbc3 I know that recordings have to have mics, but Jaroussky uses an obvious mic ALL THE TIME. He is always amplified. Real opera singers don't use mics for live opera performances or recitals, except rarely in large outdoor venues with poor acoustics. My main objection to PJ is that he sings in a pop style and is really a pop opera singer, not a real opera singer.
c'est dommage , ils ne chantent pas vraiment ensemble, et malgré leur talent, la musique ne prend pas et il n'y a pas de poésie . ça arrive, même avec les meilleurs artistes .
excellent performance. I would suggest also listening to Andreas Scholl and Barbara Bonnie, they're interpretation is also excellent, clear cut and precise.
@Ulises53 Oui, il s'agit de la pièce Quando Corpus Morietur qui clos le Stabat Mater de pergolèse avec le Amen. Désolé de ne pouvoir traduire mon anglais étant plus que mauvais :D
Personellement cette interprétation ne me plait pas, pourant j'aime autant Gens, que Jaroussky, mais leur 2 voix ont des timbres tellements éloigné que la voie de Gens semble "trop lourde et écrasée" pour une soprano, et Jaroussky trop aiguëe pour apporter la chaleur de l'alto dans ce morceau.
@CornillieJunior You are right, they seem to be too busy with their own coolness to enjoy the performance (or they are all stoned, I guess we will never know....)
Cómo puede haber tanta belleza en musica,orquesta y voces que en América latina no se valora porque los primeros incultos son los políticos , que pena!!!
Forse non ti rendi conto che Jaroussky è uno dei migliori controtenori in assoluto nel repertorio barocco quindi, prima di giudicare superficialmente, ti convienene documentarti; eviteresti figuracce
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piccola correzione. Jaroussky è uno dei più conosciuti finti controtenori in Francia. Al di fuori del suo stato non lo caga nessuno, tranne gli appassionati della sua voce infantile che non ha nulla del timbro e della potenza necessaria per interpretare i ruoli da Controtenore. Vede mi sono informato! Non mi dia del tu, lei non mi conosce! E' penoso che cantanti come questo ragazino abbiano un cosi' sproporzionato successo dovuto al sostegno nazionalista delle case discografiche e dei teatri
I don't really find that their voices blend very well. Jaroussky's is a very focussed sound, while Gens' seems rather too 'generalised operatic' by comparison.
If you like this, you will very likely be in Heaven when you hear Dorothea Röschmann and David Daniels sing this together... Lawrence Zazzo and Angharad Gruffydd Jones are also very good team, much better than these two.
I posted all aria of the show. The rest is only french discussion. It would be so long to post the show and youtube doesn't accept long video. See my videos on my youtube account. Five are extract from this show
While my father prayed earnestly to god To protect commerce, I would offer up... Secretly... The proudest prayer a boy could think of. Lord, make me a great composer. Let me celebrate your glory Through music And be celebrated myself. Make me famous through the world, dear god. Make me immortal. After I die, Let people speak my name forever With love for what I wrote. In return, I will give you my chastity And my industry... My deepest humility, Every hour of my life. Amen.
patrickbateman7 2 weeks ago
Elle est un petit peu bas dans ce duo, c'est trop piano par rapport à la tension de la ligne dans ce petit studio, sa voix a besoin de plus de place, et de moins de statisme que dans cette musique sublime mais fixe (et sur des notes de passage!)
foropera 1 month ago
The truth comes out. Arpeggio1358 IS Serenaluce. You can tell by the... well, you can tell.
MrHbc3 1 month ago
@MrHbc3 You, old fart, it's not enough to you too to spread lies on YT. What truth comes out? PROVE it too that arpeggio IS Serenaluce! PROVE! Welcome to "PJ's troll club" with their cheer leaders like CaraPhilos and JaRoWie and listen to more lies they will make up! Bravissimo to you! Congratulations.
serenaluce 1 month ago
@serenaluce Things are looking up for you serenaluce. You have the good taste to be insulted by having been mistaken for Arpeggio1358. Prost!
MrHbc3 1 month ago
@MrHbc3 Caro,of course,if you have nothing better to do in your old life just to rave on YT without any proof that somewhat "truth" comes out because somewhat anonymous brainwashed user CaraPhilos from "PJ's troll club" spreads lies about everybody whom dares criticize her baby PJ that it's the same person with multiple accounts... go ahead.But actually, it's YT. You can't attach police report with DNA analysis and finger prints.So how can you prove ANY truth?!People only exchange OPINIONS here!
serenaluce 1 month ago
Well, well, each of us can indeed mark the trolling of the multiple troll "Serenaluce" as SPAM or thumb down, and otherwise ignore it. You just feed a troll by anwering to their inane rantings.
CaraPhilos 1 month ago 12
@CaraPhilos Cara, you are so persistent in your lies. PROVE then that serenaluce and arpeggio are the same person! I'm waiting. You have nothing better to do in your miserable boring life than to spread lies on YT? Do you know anything about freedom of expression? There's no artist in the world whom absolutely EVERYBODY loves. There's no such thing as "Everybody loves PJ". Mind that neither arpeggio or me ever appealed to anybody to vote against PJ. Really brainwashed trolls are people like YOU!
serenaluce 1 month ago
sssilence.......leave your emotions free ... mind at home
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"A better singing partner", really !! And who would that be ?
You want the name of a really FASHIONABLE singer : try Justin Bieber.
As for Jarousski, that's not the word I would have chosen : "good", even "excellent" would be more appropriate. I never ceased to be amazed by the way some people can dismiss someone just like that !
Oh, and by the way, I don't think Véronique Gens needs to sing with him for getting promotion.
And if she was after that, she would have sing with Natalie Dessay.
19Edurne 2 months ago
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@19Edurne Don't you think that if they have this shitty tendency nowadays to make more money on shallow people who just react to BIG NAMES and like to be part of a big crowd, who consume only what is FASHIONABLE soon promoters will realy use Justin Bieber? Be careful. They can read it and REALLY make such duet. If now to sell great real sopranos of the past like Callas, Caballe, Sutherland they put on the same CD Brightman, among opera tenors pop singer Bocelli their next step will be Bieber!
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce
I understand your point, but I don't understand why you are talking here about A Bocelli when I was talking about Jarousski. The only contertenor I can think of who was kind of a "pop singer" was Klaus Nomi, and thanks to him, when I was a teenager I discovered Purcell, contertenors voices and a whole kind of classical music I didn't think I could like. There's no bad way for discovering good music, and if Bocelli can do the same for other people, that's fine with me !
19Edurne 2 months ago
@19Edurne I don't despise PJ. You just don't understand my point. Nothing bad with discovering classical treasures first in pop singers' interpretations and having a desire to discover what other interpretations can be and compare. But the problem is that pop singers and their promoters should be HONEST and present it as "classics in pop interpretations". PJ is clearly a POP singer.Just singing classical stuff DOESN'T make Nomi opera CT, as Bocelli isn't a TENOR.But people are just brainwashed..
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce
If you consider Jaroussky as a pop singer, then it's hopeless ! I'm really wondering on wich criteria you base your judgment. And by the way, "tenor" or "counter tenor" has to do with the range of one's voice, and "pop", "jazz" or "classical" with the way one chooses to use this voice. I'm still waiting for you to give me a clear explanation of what is pop in PJ's way of singing. For me, I just ear a classical trained singer singing classical music in a classical way.
19Edurne 2 months ago
@19Edurne
And I don't consider Bocelli to be an opera singer, but I consider him to have a tenor voice.
19Edurne 2 months ago
@19Edurne Exactly.What's hopeless here for you?I said that PJ is the same pop, a virus in CT world as Brightman for opera sopranos as she is a POP soprano, Bocelli, Baskov for tenors as they are POP tenors.Bocelli recorded in operas like Carmen with true opera singers to sell it better.Baroque is first of all about moving the heart and showing wide range of human emotions,not only singing in small untrained falsetto on HIGH notes.Real CTs have all 3 well-developed registers,not FLAT voice likePJ
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce
You say you don't despise him but call him a "virus", with a "flat (!?)" "untrained" falsetto.
Well, I really don't know how to namel it but despise !
Just because you think his voice is "flat"(compared to what ?) doesn't make him a pop singer, and he certainly isn't untrained ! I get that you're "a huge fan" of Spano (yes, I had a look at your chanel) but that's not a reason for disrespect. Fortunately, each singer has a different voice, otherwise music would be really boring.
19Edurne 2 months ago
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@19Edurne OMG, what a childish response. You have a somebody's picture on your channel, so if you dare to criticize other artists it's all connected with your favourites number one and showing disrespect. Oh please. Don't behave like "you dislike PJ I'll poopoo on your Spanos then".I put so many REAL CTS there like Lemos,Cencic,Kowalski,White,Taylor,Esswood...If I put e.g.Wunderlich's picture and call Bocelli POP tenor for YOU it's only disrespect?Bocelli like PJ is commercial singer by HIMSELF!
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce
I "poopoo" on nobody ! Did I ever say I don't like like Spano ? In fact I quite like his voice, but I had never heard of him before. But unlike you, I will never say I'm a FAN, of ANYONE ! Even people I like a lot, because FAN means fanatic, and fanatism leads to a lot of things, and generally bad ones.
I'm still waiting the clear explanation for why you qualify PJ a "pop commercial" singer by the way. I might be dumb because I just don't get it.
19Edurne 2 months ago
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@19Edurne Actually,if you misspelled SpanoS twice,I thought you dislike him:-).But bravo:very good point - FAN is from FANATIC.In the Bible it says:"Don't make a false idol for yourself of clay..."I can assure you that I don't have idols and don't have an altar at home to worship them:-).I dislike this word too but how better can you call audience who admire a certain artist?E.g. Spanos, Cencic, Pavarotti...no matter who LOVERS like opera lover?It's even worse as people think only about BED! LOL
serenaluce 2 months ago
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@19Edurne So,what's your proposition how to call better in English an artist's admirers? Just LISTENERS?It's so cold and impersonal. In Russian we have good words for the artist "kumir"which isn't exactly idol,and "poklonniki" for fans.I hate this meaning of fanaticism like "tiffosi"in Italian...I say it again:if a singer performs classical stuff he is JUDGED by classical higher STANDARDS.PJ doesn't have ALL 3 well-developed REGISTERS to be called CT.He sings only on HIGH notes in FLAT POP voice
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce
Well, of course he sings only high notes ! He sings as a counter tenor for god's sake ! Not a tenor or a baritone (although he can sing baritone for fun sometimes : actually, he and Andreas Scholl are the only 2 CT I ever heard sing also in a baritone register.)
And I'm sorry, but his voice and "répertoire" choices don't sound pop nor commercial to me, unless you think Monteverdi or some obscure Renaissance composers are a sure bet for commercial success.
19Edurne 2 months ago
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@19Edurne We are just speaking different languages.You are like my dad who can't hear the difference in the classically trained opera voice and FLAT pop voice, and for him EVERYBODY who sings classical stuff in POP MANNER becomes OPERA like Lara Fabian who sang Ave Maria.For God's sake REAL CTs don't sing ONLY on HIGH notes, like basses not only on LOW notes.To be a true operatic voice one matter who- CT, soprano, bass should have THREE registers,and not just perform e.g.Monterverdi in POP way!
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce
Sorry but I do make the difference between pop singing and classical singing, contrary to what you think. But we're going to stop there because it's useless and we clearly don't speak about the same thing. I make a difference between the technique and the intrinsic quality of a voice. There are just things training and technique can't change in a voice, and that's what make them unique. If you think his voice is flat, fine. But stop saying he's untrained !
19Edurne 2 months ago
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@19Edurne Actually,Happy new year to you!:-)It's not useless to discuss what is pure classical and what is classical in pop interpretations.You just shouldn't take it so close to heart:-)You will never convince me, and I'll never convince you; but actually many people hear that PJ isn't what he is presented but they just don't want to deal with his crazy fans who call everyone who dares to criticize him a TROLL:-).I can feel physically that his voice is FLAT!But he is a TRAINED violinist,not CT!
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce Happy new year to you to ! But I still think it's useless if you're mistaking the quality of the voice with the training.
And if you want to hear a really untrained singer, search for Florence Foster Jenkins if you don't know her yet : If you're in for a big laugh, believe me you won't be disappointed ! My gift for the new year !
19Edurne 2 months ago
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@19Edurne I am not so arragant or ignorant to confuse the QUALITY of the voice with training.E.g.great REAL CT though with different technique Jochen Kowalski began his opera career as a property man in the Berlin opera house.His father was a butcher.NO education or NO training even in the best places with the best teacher can give TALENT!PJ is a POP singer performing classics exactly judging from the QUALITY of his voice,and not training.Florence Jenkins isn't a singer, just opera PARODIST! LOL
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce
Try to be precise with words : Foster Jenkins is a PARODY not a PARODIST. She would be a parodIST if she had sang that bad on purpose, but she did that seriously believing she was a singer, thus making of herself the parodY of an opera singer.
Since we don't give the same meaning to words, I don't see the point in continuing this exchange any further.
Have a nice year !
19Edurne 2 months ago 9
@19Edurne Hey, I discovered Chopin via Liberace many decades ago. I now like his personal appearance, comedic style better than just his audio.. but even that had a certain style.
MrHbc3 1 month ago
@serenaluce
But my point was that I really don't understand why you despise Jarousski that much,treating him a "pop singer" when he clearly isn't. I can admit you don't like his voice,after all, I don't like Caballé's voice (I always have the impression she's on the verge of being off key, can't help it) but I would never say she's a bad singer.
19Edurne 2 months ago
@19Edurne Actually Natalie and she seem to be good friends and one of the Duets on a CD by Emmanuelle Haim is with the two of them. The Virgin (EMI) promotional video (Handel, Arcadian Duets) on YT captures some of the interaction between them. Guess who is the more dignified. I like them both a lot.
MrHbc3 1 month ago
We must recall that in the catholic tradition of Pergolesi times, women were strictly forbidden to sing in the churches. So this Stabat Mater as all the other catholic hymns were performed originaly by two Castratos (counter tenor) which is currently never the case today.
frenchiecocorico1 2 months ago 3
@frenchiecocorico1 sorry but there is a very important difference between castratos and counter tenors.. bering a counter tenor myself I know that I've still got my balls.. Castratos however had to give them up to keep their high voices.. There is also a huge difference in tone and warmth in their voices..
tobiassegura 1 month ago
@tobiassegura Yes, you're absolutely right and I know it well for a long time. Actually, there is no real castrato singer anymore. They have been replaced by counter tenors and fortunately all of them have balls.
I just remenbered that in the catholic tradition of Pergolesi times, women were forbidden to sing in churches and only male singers were allowed to do. Sopranos were either children or Castratos. So, today counter tenors would have to sing the Castratos part instead of women
frenchiecocorico1 1 month ago
So much crankiness always on early and classical music videos. Something that some early and classical fans don't like, what they consider to be pop-like, is sliding between notes (portamento).
simplyscrummy 3 months ago
Wahou... ça donne envi d'être contre-ténor.
pierrebarretmemy 4 months ago
I saw Jaroussky in London, singing with Andreas Scholl. He wasn't amplified and he had no trouble filling the auditorium with that wonderful voice.
FlamingFairy 4 months ago 8
oh, my sweet Philippe with Maestro Spinosi again...
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tidafi 6 months ago
WOWOWOWWO c etait Natalie Dessay la bas vers le final?
justaesh 6 months ago
@justaesh Oui, elle était présente lors de l'enregistrement de l'emission. Nat est une amie de Phillipe et Eve ;)
TheCaseyonline 5 months ago
Me encanta que Dessay no aplaude ni un poco.
ramirogorriti 7 months ago
@ramirogorriti how many seconds did she have to begin applauding before the video quit?
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lelovanbeethoven 8 months ago
These comments are confusing to me. My first encounter with Jaroussky was in Salle Pleyel in Giulio Cesare with Cecilia Bartoli. He was fabulous and only one of several countertenors in the show. He was as loud as any of those other guys. I also noticed nothing "pop" about his performance. So I guess I don't get it.
drbarbarabaker 8 months ago 17
ps: i'm fond of Jarroussky, when he sings you have the impression that it's very natural, easy for him.It's very sweet.
TheConsolamentum 8 months ago
I've seen PJ in live in " il sant alessio" , it was beautiful.And his voice wasn't amplified.He doesn't need it.But Veronique Gens and Jarroussky ' voices don't fit together i think, that's why this version of stabat mater isn't very good.
TheConsolamentum 8 months ago
@TheConsolamentum And how can you actually know that PJ's voice wasn't amplified? Can you prove itÉ Did you check him as at the airport using metal detector and found nothing? I have this whole DVD Sant Alessio but itès fantastic because of Cencic, Lemos , Sabata, Guilllon and other participation in it, and not because of this pop falsettist PJ! But surprisingly even PJ is not too bad there as itès exactly in the image of that freaking ÈsaintÈ Alessio to be empty and not manly. But he is not CT!
serenaluce 8 months ago
Trop maniéré et pompeux à mon goût! Je préfère nettement la version de l'Ensemble Fratres avec Carlos Mena et Maria Espada!
Smarb33 9 months ago
I cannot understand how anyone could respond to such sublime singing. However, looking at the bored expressions of some of the audience in this video one might wonder what on earth they are doing there! Jaroussky is magical no doubt about it -who can disagree?
MrHBraithwaite 9 months ago
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En effet Véronique Gens est parfaite mais j'ai comme une hésitation concernant PJ que j'aime bien par ailleur mais là c'est comme ..... bizzare.....!
sweehietysop 9 months ago
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En effet Véronique Gens est parfaite mais j'ai comme une hésitation concernant PJ que j'aime bien par ailleur mais là c'est comme ..... bizzare.....!
sweehietysop 9 months ago
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En effet Véronique Gens est parfaite mais j'ai comme une hésitation concernant PJ que j'aime bien par ailleur mais là c'est comme ..... bizzare.....!
sweehietysop 9 months ago
En effet Véronique Gens est parfaite mais j'ai comme une hésitation concernant PJ que j'aime bien par ailleur mais là c'est comme ..... bizzare.....!
sweehietysop 9 months ago
Once again, Jaroussky cannot sing without a microphone. I've never seen him without one except in one live opera excerpt...and there it was obvious that he was amplified. The microphone was hidden somewhere...somewhere on his person probably.
arpeggio1358 9 months ago
@arpeggio1358 Absolutely, if ALL people had ears like you they could HEAR that PJ is just AMPLIFIED to create an ILLUSION that he actually sings almost as LOUD as Gens but it's impossible taking into consideration his superficial pop manner and just "touching the surface". Gens is a real classically trained opera singer, and if PJ didn't use a hidden microphone she would just blow him away with her strong voice. Love live sound technicians who can present any POP FALSETTIST as a true CT! LOL
serenaluce 9 months ago
@serenaluce I'm afraid that people will still continue to idolize Jaroussky and buy his recordings, unaware that he is just a pop falsettist. It's a shame that someone of Gens's high calibre is singing with Jaroussky. But then, Pavarotti sang with all sorts of pop performers. At least those appearances were in his Pavarotti and Friends concerts that were intended only for pop performers.
arpeggio1358 9 months ago
@arpeggio1358 Yeah, it's really a shame that such a wonderful soprano with a beautiful deep voice and splended technique as Gens has to sing with a promoted pop falsettist PJ instead of real CTs who are not that few nowadays like Cencic, Scholl, Lemos, Taylor, White, Spanos, Mena, Guillon, actually really enough, it's to name just a few who have strong voices with proper technique and don't need any TRICKS to emplify them to match her level.Pavarotti in any event was still a TRUE opera singer:-)
serenaluce 9 months ago
@arpeggio1358 the microphone was hidden in a fake teeth, i already saw that in a James Bond movie. The teeth is fake, Jarrousky is fake, all his concerts in every theatres are fake (you've been in those theatres haven't you ?) and all his international success is fake. They should have done this TV show without any microphone, then we would have heared the truth :-D :-D :-D
It's also PJ that made the fake video of 9/11 with fake planes, praise the conspiracy theory...
poymanjoe 4 months ago
@poymanjoe Real oepra singers never use mics. PJ can't sing without a mic. The amplification is obvious to anyone with an ear for music. This is no conspiracy theory. BTW, which of your Bobby McFerrin or Tears for Fears videos gives you your knowledge of opera and correct singing technique?
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
@arpeggio1358 For me, power is not a major quality for singing. Emotion, musicality are more important, maybe like many people who like PJ. I don't feel like requiring a diploma of any kind to enjoy music, all kinds of musics, without dogmatism or elitism. I can feel so depressed listening to Chostakovitch, but i can't play piano. Wagner is not PJ's favourite music, he often sings in churches with small baroque ochestras, he seldom has to overflow a choir of 40 or more singers. Enjoy music.
poymanjoe 4 months ago
@poymanjoe But he says he's an opera singer, and opera singers must use correct technique and sing without mics. One can't have musicality without technique. Nobody needs a diploma to enjoy music though. My preference is for real opera singers rather than those like PJ who sing in a pop style and belong in the popera (pop opera) category.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
@arpeggio1358 I hate to tell you this, Arpeggio, but any time you hear a recording of an opera singer... a microphone or some sort was used. Otherwise.. No Recording!!! By the way, the cameo look at Natalie Dessay sitting at that table was fun.
MrHbc3 4 months ago
@MrHbc3 Hate to tell you, but Jaroussky sings withn obvious mic even when he's singing live...like here. Also, take a look on YT at Bocelli trying to sing a recital at the Met. Someone recorded him with a hidden camera in the audience. He's obviously not amplified and he can hardly be heard. Neither PJ or AB are opera singers, by the way.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
@arpeggio1358 I am assuming that all of the singing with microphone is not recorded, that you were there in person and have good reason to be sure that it was not being recorded for any purpose. You and serenaluce post over, and over, and over again on this same thread insulting Jaroussky and pushing your Cencic etc. Surely no one is paying you for this crazy drivel, but what an obsession... and what mean spiritedness and poor manners.
MrHbc3 4 months ago
@MrHbc3 Look here. I'm not pushing anyone. I simply think that Jaroussky sings in a pop style. I'm hardly obsessed with anyone. CVencic isn't my favorite countertenor. You are the mean spirited one who has poor manners. I have blocked you. Go away.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
@MrHbc3 Who would speak about "obsession" you, old fart ,who put the "same thread"of obsession on every video by your precious Mary Ellen Nesi how great she is in pants roles that she only shows off her big boobies and revealing clothes while singing as a sexy mature WOMAN pretending that she is a MAN! LOL Who is pushing any Cencic if she descredits herself with her own manner of dressing to make men drool over her APPEARANCE as SEX SELLS! Who discredits PJ if not he HIMSELF with his POP MANNER!
serenaluce 3 months ago
@MrHbc3 I treated you with respect discussing what opera should be IMO,exchanging OPINIONS on YT but you are a mean old creature spreading lies about me all over YT. Prove that I hate PJ or the same Andrea Bocelli! It's all LIBEL! I don't insult anybody as a PERSON. Artists are public figures and supposed to be JUDGED by their LISTENERS to live by performances and recordings! Saying that Bocelli is a great POP SINGER but no opera singer as he has no operatic technique isn't INSULT!So is PJ,idiot
serenaluce 3 months ago
@MrHbc3 By the way,Cencic like arpeggio's isn't "my" Cencic either. I don't push anybody. I'm not his wife, lover, relative or an agent! I'm just a FAN!Prove that I have something to do with Cencic or anybody else and that I deliberately degrade PJ or YOUR Nesi as YOU are just obsessed with her that you even comment all the time on her dress when nobody else cares about her "to push" ANYBODY of my favourites!Prove it! You are so good at imagining stuff and telling the others to see a doctor!Now!
serenaluce 3 months ago
@MrHbc3 This is so funny, or would be if it weren't borderline psycho!! Evry three or four months I open a new Jaroussky video and find the same poison coming from Serenaluce; oxymoronic screenname if I ever saw one, since there is nothing serene or luminous about her comments. I hadn't come across arpeggio so far, but looks like a stalker from hell just as Serenaluce. Ladies, or whatever the hell you are, if you don't like Jarousski, why don't you get a life and keep away from him?
sobelou 2 months ago
@sobelou I just saw most of Pergolesi's Stabat Mater with a good soprano and Vivica Genaux On YT. It was fantastic! Much better than this one. It was, however, a big production compared to this one. It also got a fabulous reception from the audience who finally compelled an encore after numerous leavings and returnings by the conductor and the singers. One difference seemed to be that the other that one was better rehearsed. Another was that the soprano and Vivica were much better balanced.
MrHbc3 2 months ago
@sobelou Caro amico, it would be so funny what you write here if it weren't borderline psycho!!! Also blunt SLANDER, LIBEL doesn't do you any credit! Philippe Jaroussky has on YT about 2 320 videos if you put his name in "search". How many videos have I commented? Prove it and send me links or better copy ALL my comments on EVERY PJ's video, even the NEW ones at least for the last FOUR moths that you watch this POP singer PJ and post it here!Saying that he is a POP singer is POISON, STALKER? LOL
serenaluce 2 months ago
@serenaluce Yikes!! Why do you have to yell? Be serene, Serena!!. I don't have a clue of how many videos PJ has on You Tube, but almost every time I stumble upon one, there you are, intensely personal (yes, personal, several times you have made derogatory comments about his manhood). If you despise him so, or have such low artistic view of him, why do you waste your time on him?
sobelou 2 months ago
@sobelou Come on.Who yells here?The only 2 people who make some noise here are wonderful Gens and pop falsettis PJ -which is such a pity as she deserves a better singing partner from true opera world! But to have a better chance of promotion for themselves as in any profession good singers have to work with those who are just FASHIONABLE for the moment and please"the right people".Don't be so naive.Actually I replied to Hbc here who seemed to be understanding in PMs and so mean in open comments
serenaluce 2 months ago
@MrHbc3 I know that recordings have to have mics, but Jaroussky uses an obvious mic ALL THE TIME. He is always amplified. Real opera singers don't use mics for live opera performances or recitals, except rarely in large outdoor venues with poor acoustics. My main objection to PJ is that he sings in a pop style and is really a pop opera singer, not a real opera singer.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
Great!!!! Is always best when used a countertenor! ....Wish I could sing like this.....
sonicafirst 10 months ago
Great!!!! Is always best when used a countertenor! ....Wish I could sing like this....
sonicafirst 10 months ago
c'est dommage , ils ne chantent pas vraiment ensemble, et malgré leur talent, la musique ne prend pas et il n'y a pas de poésie . ça arrive, même avec les meilleurs artistes .
Moriyya 10 months ago
colora40 I got my opening night whith music of Pergolese.He past away too early,
otherwise we had have more beautifull music. This is so beautifull,I love Jaroussky.
colora40 11 months ago
excellent performance. I would suggest also listening to Andreas Scholl and Barbara Bonnie, they're interpretation is also excellent, clear cut and precise.
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wonderlasting 1 year ago
@wonderlasting
It's featured quite importantly in Amadeus. This might be why you feel that.
nicnacnic 1 year ago
@wonderlasting This doesn't sound like Mozart at all!
MarcusHolly 1 year ago
pergolesI, please.
pollaccio 1 year ago
Yo tambien comparto la opinion de que esto no es el Stabat Mater de Pergolesi
I share the opinion that this is not Pergolesi´s Stabat Mater
rodmodju 1 year ago
absolutely wonderful!!! I Almost cried!!!
immature0916 1 year ago
Esto NO me parece que sea el Stabat Mater de Pergolesi...
Ulises53 1 year ago
@Ulises53 Oui, il s'agit de la pièce Quando Corpus Morietur qui clos le Stabat Mater de pergolèse avec le Amen. Désolé de ne pouvoir traduire mon anglais étant plus que mauvais :D
Personellement cette interprétation ne me plait pas, pourant j'aime autant Gens, que Jaroussky, mais leur 2 voix ont des timbres tellements éloigné que la voie de Gens semble "trop lourde et écrasée" pour une soprano, et Jaroussky trop aiguëe pour apporter la chaleur de l'alto dans ce morceau.
evanesca 1 year ago
Si es el Stabat Mater de Pergolesi, es el último movimiento, se llama quando corpus morietur.
natilyrica 1 year ago
Ma lei è tremendamente calante!!!
melophilus 1 year ago
Merveilleux......
gunnelb1 1 year ago 2
The people who're sitting in those programs seem always so uninterested.. It's like they don't 'hear' the beauty!
CornillieJunior 1 year ago 2
@CornillieJunior You are right, they seem to be too busy with their own coolness to enjoy the performance (or they are all stoned, I guess we will never know....)
verso69 1 year ago
Simplemente extraordinario, maravilloso, exelso...apoteotico!
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Simplemente extraordinario, maravilloso, exelso...apoteotico!
Tamtumergo 1 year ago
Simplemente extraordinario, maravilloso, exelso...apoteotico!
Tamtumergo 1 year ago
Cómo puede haber tanta belleza en musica,orquesta y voces que en América latina no se valora porque los primeros incultos son los políticos , que pena!!!
quetepique48 1 year ago
Try Sphera AntiQva... you will love them
JaimeIsiboro1972 1 year ago
Que c'est bien chanté! - Quelle belle interprétation! - Continuez1 - C'est formidable!
tritonusgesang 1 year ago
This is the best and most dramatic Stabat Mater I have heard.
Many stars for that!
metteholm75 1 year ago
Este Stabat Mater es sublime.
Más aún interpretado por el espléndido Jarussky
PILAR2090 2 years ago
Prueba a Sphera AntiQva con Paloma Friedhoff. eso es miel pura
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Jean-Christophe Spinosi conducts Ensemble Matheus
iggykarpov 2 years ago
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come canta male questo giovinetto. spero che sia uno scherzo.
theulkar 2 years ago
Forse non ti rendi conto che Jaroussky è uno dei migliori controtenori in assoluto nel repertorio barocco quindi, prima di giudicare superficialmente, ti convienene documentarti; eviteresti figuracce
superbarocco 2 years ago
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piccola correzione. Jaroussky è uno dei più conosciuti finti controtenori in Francia. Al di fuori del suo stato non lo caga nessuno, tranne gli appassionati della sua voce infantile che non ha nulla del timbro e della potenza necessaria per interpretare i ruoli da Controtenore. Vede mi sono informato! Non mi dia del tu, lei non mi conosce! E' penoso che cantanti come questo ragazino abbiano un cosi' sproporzionato successo dovuto al sostegno nazionalista delle case discografiche e dei teatri
theulkar 2 years ago
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serenaluce 2 years ago
C'est un STABAT MATER, ce n'est pas sensé être gai, c'est de la solemnité. C'est une scène doulereuse!
erikamabra 2 years ago
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erikamabra 2 years ago
mise en scène très sobre, certes (c'est la lélé!)
MAIS
musique et voix sublimes
music and voices wonderful
die Musik und die Stimme sind wunderschön
musica e voci sublimi..........................................
tinasaturn 2 years ago
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tinasaturn 2 years ago
orribile
calzio71 2 years ago 2
what's wrong with Veronique Gens ? i don't get you, to me she's a great artist and she's sober (not a cold fish, come on...)
matho88 2 years ago
Gens is cold like a fish , jaroussky so so and conductor ridiculous !!!
shakingguy 2 years ago
yup, doesn't sound like sacred music, lost all spirituality and poignancy.
uptilthesky 2 years ago
Quel horreur!!! C'est vraiment du mauvais....
zizLizzz 2 years ago
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the soprano pisses me off a bit...
Guichotpresident 2 years ago
me 2
KiNgOfKaRaBiNeR 2 years ago
I dont really love the soprano but jaroussky is, as ever, amazing!
Guichotpresident 2 years ago
... This was performed on Christmas day? Inaproppriate choice on the organizer's part.
>.>
Aniretak205 2 years ago 6
I agree.. Stabat Mater performed on Christmas Day, you say?? How contradicting 0_o
Marmalade000000 2 years ago 11
C'est vrai, c'est vraiment bizarre....
viiiooo 2 years ago
This is the best I've heard this piece sung, by far. These two are amazing.<3
LaPetitMorte13 2 years ago 3
Very good ensemble..
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attento a non sporcare la tastiera quando ti masturbi ascoltando i castratitni. stronzo e testa di cazzo.
udilio 2 years ago
Pauvre con !
FILBACH 2 years ago 2
pergolesi NOT pergolese!! :-)
scardan123 2 years ago
it's pergolese in French :)
juju1305 2 years ago 5
Thanks for this video :-)
They both are one of my favourite singers ^^
MegaCawotte 2 years ago
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Jaroussky ridicolo.
udilio 2 years ago
!!!!! Ridicola tua mamma!
freeerteee 2 years ago
la mia e` morta. la tua invece allarga ancora bene le gambe. Proprio una bella porca
udilio 2 years ago
Ma che c'entra la mamma di qualcuno?! Jaroussky veramente suona ridicolo!
serenaluce 2 years ago
D'accordo! Jaroussky e' veramente ridicolo come sempre! Suonano come due donne! I migliori controtenori hanno le voci masculine...
serenaluce 2 years ago
ma dipende come e la partitura couter-tenor e detto anche altus e la voce non puo´esser maschile
sopran28 2 years ago
next thing we will see will be Pérgoilaise, or something... lol
luisortmul 2 years ago
Just try to learn French at first, and we'll see then ! ...
StephJulia 2 years ago
Merci, mais je déjà parle français. On ne peut dire pas la même chose de ton anglais!!! 'at first'= d'abord
xx
luisortmul 2 years ago
Oui, mais 'je déjà parle français' n'est pas français, on dit 'je parle déjà français' ...
Donc avant de critiquer mon anglais, apprends 'd'abord' - ou - 'en premier lieu', (=at first) le français !!!...
Et en anglais, on met un F majuscule à 'French'. Révise aussi ton anglais ...
hi hi hi ...
StephJulia 2 years ago
I think the word IDIOT describes you in both languages perfectly well
:-)
luisortmul 2 years ago
OK, See You Next Tuesday !
StephJulia 2 years ago
what's happening next Tuesday?
Am I having the pleasure to meet you in person?
:-)
luisortmul 2 years ago
Hey french people! IT IS PERGOLESI... avec une 'i'...RIGHT????
don't appropriate him
:-)
luisortmul 2 years ago
Gens sounds horrible and out of style i dont dont know why people said she is magnificent
sagagossard 3 years ago
I don't really find that their voices blend very well. Jaroussky's is a very focussed sound, while Gens' seems rather too 'generalised operatic' by comparison.
olialto7 3 years ago
I like this a lot!
chris
mradaChris 3 years ago
If you like this, you will very likely be in Heaven when you hear Dorothea Röschmann and David Daniels sing this together... Lawrence Zazzo and Angharad Gruffydd Jones are also very good team, much better than these two.
encoreandbravo 2 years ago
Do you have the links I can check out. I can't easily find them on YT.
c.
mradaChris 2 years ago
Magnifique Veronique Gens !
harmoniques 3 years ago 17
Merci beaucoup d'avoir poster les vidéos de cette belle émission !
Ce duo est formidable !
Melophilie 3 years ago 3
thanks
i was hoping to see the rest of the show.
oh, well....
jchembel 3 years ago
avez-vous plus de la même épisode de La voix?
si oui, pouvez vous postez-le s'il vous plaît.
beaucoup de mercis....
jchembel 3 years ago
You can write in english, because i don't understand what you exactly want. All extracts from this french show are already post
FILBACH 3 years ago
Do you have the rest of the show?
I was wondering if you can post it as well...
Thanks much....
jchembel 3 years ago
I posted all aria of the show. The rest is only french discussion. It would be so long to post the show and youtube doesn't accept long video. See my videos on my youtube account. Five are extract from this show
FILBACH 3 years ago
@jchembel wow! your french stinks!
BernardProfitendieu 1 year ago