I tried to get the attention of other Americans but they only care about themselves. Fuck it, time is ending anyways. Good luck Ivorians, enjoy your wretched bloodbath. I'm sure we'll be doing the same thing soon, and all power to the rats and cockroaches, truly superior species
@edrubangura you're telling me what I need to know, and I'll bet you'll give me some tabloid to prove it, loaded with fallacies as usual. You speak good English and have expectations of people you don't even know. You're an American aren't you. That is typical ultra-liberal (inconsistent and self-righteous) thinking. That link you sent me was from Gbagbo's propaganda mill. How sad Socialists have become.
Nope, I am not telling you that Gbagbo is not coorupted, all politicians are corrupted to a certain extent. I am just telling you Gbagbo and his supporters are a force that is going in the opposite direction from that of genocidal western elite and the puppet Quattara, and that should be applauded.
@edrubangura You're telling me that should be applauded? Are you a member of the Socialist Workers Party?Or are you a "Maoist/Third Worldist"? I'm only asking because your position and your choice of words sounds very familiar, and frankly you could be a little more precise. Furthermore if you think Gbagbo or Ouattara give a damn whether we applaud them for anything or not indicates that you're having delusions of grandeur.
Quattara and Gbagbo are both known rubber-stamp stooges of Western imperialism, and Youtube is about the worst place to discuss this because of the websites stupid speech limitation policy that is in compliance with the criminal enterprise called the "Department of Homeland Security." I only want my government to do one good thing this century.
Your government has been hijacked by International Bankers that own the news media and military industrial complex and there is nothing you can do now, till the usa economy collapses, and we can put together again the remaining pieces and strive for democracy again.
@edrubangura Thanks for reminding me of that, but the reality is that in this backward political culture silence = consent. Not surprisingly this is the opposite to a tradition of a more democratic culture, the Hopi, who see abstention as a "no" vote, thus silence does not = consent. Don't worry, by stupid and arrogant gov is collapsing, & Laurent Gbagbo is not thrilled about it, or why did he hire Lanny Davis of all people?
Gbagbo is not a puppet of the west like Quattara is, otherwise the west could not have mobilized together to call for his removal from power
The major issue is that the west wants to remove Gbagbo from power, because he doesn't follow all their orders. GBagbo wants to do some of his country's oil busines deals with China and Russia but the West doesn't want that. The West wants to own it all, that country's oil and that's why they want the IMF Puppet, Quattara in power.
@edrubangura The "West" has not reached consensus. The United States has been friendly with Gbagbo, and France has been friendly with Ouattara. Gbagbo hired one of corporate powers' worst lobbyists, Lanny Davis. Davis dropped the client likely to save face and cover up corporate corruption, such as illegal dumping by Trafigura corporation, there's your petro industry link right there. Gbagbo has been complicit with this.
Yep Lanny Davis is a scam, and he has been representing dictators who overthrow democratically elected presidents such as Zelaya , the Ex-Pres from Hondura.
In this case, Lanny cares only for money and Gbagbo was just desperate to hire him. Lanny throw him under the bus, because Gbagbo's economic policies doesn't favor the West only, but are opened to China. The West fears that China is becoming a major Africa partner which has been good by the way for Africa economy.
@edrubangura If China is turning Africa to get oil they must be seriously desperate, and would do China little good without major "austerity" measures. There simply isn't enough oil there. We've been sucking out the oil there for too long. the last largest reserves are in the south Asian region.
China economic policies toward Africa are more human, and encourage a healthy and prosperous Africa while Western economic policies make sure to not have an African Middle Class so that Africans can remain independent of the West. Western economic policies involves Genocide policies toward the Third World, especially Africa and you need to understand that and if you don't know I will be glad to give you that info.
@edrubangura Obama does what he's told, the West has not reached consensus on anything because self interest contradicts the very concept, and to assume China is excluded from this facade of consensus is absurd, they beg to be part of it regularly.
Ouattara Alassane is an IMF Thug, working for Multinational Corporations. Just be afraid for this guy who worked for IMF, a Finincial Western Institution, involved in imposing neoliberal economic policies that bankrupted African and SA 's economies like Zimbabwe, Argentine and so on.
What is happening in Ivory Coast is about oil. Gbagbo has been opening its country's oil not only to the West, but to China and Russsia, and that's why the West is trying to remove him from power.
True but using past colonialism as a basis for nationalism is too similar to events in other parts of Africa. There should be no intervention by Europe or the U.S., and the U.N. should be cooperative and not coercive to the A.U. It is not my place to decide Ouatarra or Gbagbo, but one drop of independently validated innocent blood and it will be the world's business. The U.S. sat on its ass while genocide occurred elsewhere in the past, and it is my business to change that about my government.
The USA didn't sit on its ass while Genocide occured, rather it was all planed from DC, to finally occupy Central Africa and put in place a non-congolese guy to become the President of Congo, so that the multinationals can loot gold and not to mention coltan that has prospered western electronic corps that make cell phones, computer ships and so on. The same scenario is being staged for Outtara to be put in power illegally and let the West controls the country's oil.
@edrubangura I was referring to the USA sitting on its ass during Rwanda's genocide, not Congo. The US and Western corporations are the culprits by and large of the Congo violence and genocide. I'm well aware of that. However, in Ivory Coast it isn't oil necessarily that is the issue. It is incrimination the West fears over chemical spills, child slavery, blood diamonds etc. Wikileaks actually helped expose the Abidjan chemical spill.
@edrubangura I don't care who the President of Ivory Coast is. That's not for me to decide, but I do care if innocent people die, and if powerful states are free from scrutiny as a result.
It depends on if the 'Blue Helmets' will be willing to go up against Gbagbo's forces, who vastly outnumber them.
Even Ouattara said Gbagbo cannot be negotiated with, which leaves only one alternative: A bloody civil war OR a situation reminiscent of when a US-appointed puppet government briefly deposed Chavez of Venezuela and set up headquarters only to be unceremoniously ejected in an amazing short time by enraged Venezuelan mobs who supported Chavez.
What is really going on there? Don't give the wealthy nations of Europe and the U.S. a mound of bloodshed behind which they can hide, reject violence and control your own emotions so a peaceful resolve can occur.
This tool isn't the real El Presidente. Gbagbo is.
Long live Gbagbo!
Seriously, the UN needs to respect the elections of sovereign nations and not pander to transcontinental business elites who are plotting to take over the Ivory Coast's wealth.
@wailingwarfare If what you are saying is true then prove it with transparency and expose the transnational corporations, committing violence and genocide against your own population, regardless of whether or not they voted for your favored candidate, will only result in your demise and the legitimization of Western imperialism. If one side commits genocide against the other that will bury the corporate plot, if it's true, under headlines of genocide reminiscent of Rwanda, Sudan and others.
I'm a white guy from Canada and I'm disgusted with what is happening with the Ivorians. Colonialism was supposed to have been finished decades ago but big surprise, the Ivory Coast is so full of treasure that criminal people will enable anything, even genocide, to be able to install a puppet government.
You want me to prove this. It's not easy but the money CAN be followed... If only we knew where this money is coming from. Files are possibly being burnt right now, tracks covered
puppet Quattara,
mbaye501 1 year ago
I tried to get the attention of other Americans but they only care about themselves. Fuck it, time is ending anyways. Good luck Ivorians, enjoy your wretched bloodbath. I'm sure we'll be doing the same thing soon, and all power to the rats and cockroaches, truly superior species
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
Piece of crap! I just noticed you maybe a fucken conservative libertarian. Don't send me your fucken diatribes again, idiot.
edrubangura 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
Actually, after going to your channel, I just noticed you maybe one of those usa liberals who don't like socialists or marxists. Right? Fucken idiot!
edrubangura 1 year ago
@edrubangura you're telling me what I need to know, and I'll bet you'll give me some tabloid to prove it, loaded with fallacies as usual. You speak good English and have expectations of people you don't even know. You're an American aren't you. That is typical ultra-liberal (inconsistent and self-righteous) thinking. That link you sent me was from Gbagbo's propaganda mill. How sad Socialists have become.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
Nope, I am not telling you that Gbagbo is not coorupted, all politicians are corrupted to a certain extent. I am just telling you Gbagbo and his supporters are a force that is going in the opposite direction from that of genocidal western elite and the puppet Quattara, and that should be applauded.
edrubangura 1 year ago
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@edrubangura If that's what you're telling me you're fucking ignorant
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@edrubangura You're telling me that should be applauded? Are you a member of the Socialist Workers Party?Or are you a "Maoist/Third Worldist"? I'm only asking because your position and your choice of words sounds very familiar, and frankly you could be a little more precise. Furthermore if you think Gbagbo or Ouattara give a damn whether we applaud them for anything or not indicates that you're having delusions of grandeur.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
Quattara and Gbagbo are both known rubber-stamp stooges of Western imperialism, and Youtube is about the worst place to discuss this because of the websites stupid speech limitation policy that is in compliance with the criminal enterprise called the "Department of Homeland Security." I only want my government to do one good thing this century.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
Your government has been hijacked by International Bankers that own the news media and military industrial complex and there is nothing you can do now, till the usa economy collapses, and we can put together again the remaining pieces and strive for democracy again.
edrubangura 1 year ago
@edrubangura Thanks for reminding me of that, but the reality is that in this backward political culture silence = consent. Not surprisingly this is the opposite to a tradition of a more democratic culture, the Hopi, who see abstention as a "no" vote, thus silence does not = consent. Don't worry, by stupid and arrogant gov is collapsing, & Laurent Gbagbo is not thrilled about it, or why did he hire Lanny Davis of all people?
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
Gbagbo is not a puppet of the west like Quattara is, otherwise the west could not have mobilized together to call for his removal from power
The major issue is that the west wants to remove Gbagbo from power, because he doesn't follow all their orders. GBagbo wants to do some of his country's oil busines deals with China and Russia but the West doesn't want that. The West wants to own it all, that country's oil and that's why they want the IMF Puppet, Quattara in power.
edrubangura 1 year ago
@edrubangura The "West" has not reached consensus. The United States has been friendly with Gbagbo, and France has been friendly with Ouattara. Gbagbo hired one of corporate powers' worst lobbyists, Lanny Davis. Davis dropped the client likely to save face and cover up corporate corruption, such as illegal dumping by Trafigura corporation, there's your petro industry link right there. Gbagbo has been complicit with this.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
Yep Lanny Davis is a scam, and he has been representing dictators who overthrow democratically elected presidents such as Zelaya , the Ex-Pres from Hondura.
In this case, Lanny cares only for money and Gbagbo was just desperate to hire him. Lanny throw him under the bus, because Gbagbo's economic policies doesn't favor the West only, but are opened to China. The West fears that China is becoming a major Africa partner which has been good by the way for Africa economy.
edrubangura 1 year ago
@edrubangura If China is turning Africa to get oil they must be seriously desperate, and would do China little good without major "austerity" measures. There simply isn't enough oil there. We've been sucking out the oil there for too long. the last largest reserves are in the south Asian region.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
China economic policies toward Africa are more human, and encourage a healthy and prosperous Africa while Western economic policies make sure to not have an African Middle Class so that Africans can remain independent of the West. Western economic policies involves Genocide policies toward the Third World, especially Africa and you need to understand that and if you don't know I will be glad to give you that info.
edrubangura 1 year ago
@edrubangura Bullshit, China is bent on self interest too, they are just broke and can't afford to be imperialists. Just ask Vietnam about that one.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
Wow, where have you been? The "West" has reached consensus longtime ago, and the puppet obama has congratulated Quattara already.
edrubangura 1 year ago
@edrubangura Obama does what he's told, the West has not reached consensus on anything because self interest contradicts the very concept, and to assume China is excluded from this facade of consensus is absurd, they beg to be part of it regularly.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
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pazyamor07 1 year ago
Ouattara Alassane is an IMF Thug, working for Multinational Corporations. Just be afraid for this guy who worked for IMF, a Finincial Western Institution, involved in imposing neoliberal economic policies that bankrupted African and SA 's economies like Zimbabwe, Argentine and so on.
What is happening in Ivory Coast is about oil. Gbagbo has been opening its country's oil not only to the West, but to China and Russsia, and that's why the West is trying to remove him from power.
edrubangura 1 year ago
True but using past colonialism as a basis for nationalism is too similar to events in other parts of Africa. There should be no intervention by Europe or the U.S., and the U.N. should be cooperative and not coercive to the A.U. It is not my place to decide Ouatarra or Gbagbo, but one drop of independently validated innocent blood and it will be the world's business. The U.S. sat on its ass while genocide occurred elsewhere in the past, and it is my business to change that about my government.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
The USA didn't sit on its ass while Genocide occured, rather it was all planed from DC, to finally occupy Central Africa and put in place a non-congolese guy to become the President of Congo, so that the multinationals can loot gold and not to mention coltan that has prospered western electronic corps that make cell phones, computer ships and so on. The same scenario is being staged for Outtara to be put in power illegally and let the West controls the country's oil.
edrubangura 1 year ago
@edrubangura I was referring to the USA sitting on its ass during Rwanda's genocide, not Congo. The US and Western corporations are the culprits by and large of the Congo violence and genocide. I'm well aware of that. However, in Ivory Coast it isn't oil necessarily that is the issue. It is incrimination the West fears over chemical spills, child slavery, blood diamonds etc. Wikileaks actually helped expose the Abidjan chemical spill.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@edrubangura I don't care who the President of Ivory Coast is. That's not for me to decide, but I do care if innocent people die, and if powerful states are free from scrutiny as a result.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
why dont you just leave ivory coast alone , they dont want outtara or the u.n or french.
this will only make things worst for the u.n, french and europe, u.s already damaged reputation
you already attacked iraq and afghanistan only killing and killing .
leave ivory coast alone, leave africa alone. africans have the right to run and develop their countrys as other great forces do.
black puppets are not wanted in africa. neither are the string pullers.
mrkitoko1 1 year ago
It depends on if the 'Blue Helmets' will be willing to go up against Gbagbo's forces, who vastly outnumber them.
Even Ouattara said Gbagbo cannot be negotiated with, which leaves only one alternative: A bloody civil war OR a situation reminiscent of when a US-appointed puppet government briefly deposed Chavez of Venezuela and set up headquarters only to be unceremoniously ejected in an amazing short time by enraged Venezuelan mobs who supported Chavez.
Chess moves are being played right now.
wailingwarfare 1 year ago
What is really going on there? Don't give the wealthy nations of Europe and the U.S. a mound of bloodshed behind which they can hide, reject violence and control your own emotions so a peaceful resolve can occur.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
This tool isn't the real El Presidente. Gbagbo is.
Long live Gbagbo!
Seriously, the UN needs to respect the elections of sovereign nations and not pander to transcontinental business elites who are plotting to take over the Ivory Coast's wealth.
wailingwarfare 1 year ago
@wailingwarfare If what you are saying is true then prove it with transparency and expose the transnational corporations, committing violence and genocide against your own population, regardless of whether or not they voted for your favored candidate, will only result in your demise and the legitimization of Western imperialism. If one side commits genocide against the other that will bury the corporate plot, if it's true, under headlines of genocide reminiscent of Rwanda, Sudan and others.
pazyamor07 1 year ago
@pazyamor07
I'm a white guy from Canada and I'm disgusted with what is happening with the Ivorians. Colonialism was supposed to have been finished decades ago but big surprise, the Ivory Coast is so full of treasure that criminal people will enable anything, even genocide, to be able to install a puppet government.
You want me to prove this. It's not easy but the money CAN be followed... If only we knew where this money is coming from. Files are possibly being burnt right now, tracks covered
wailingwarfare 1 year ago